merely her entry issue. now the democrats say whoever wins a july 24th runoff will support the winner. the goal here for both of them is to try to flip the district. they just disagree on who should be that person. jim? >> thank you, and thanks to you for joirni injoining us tonight0 starts right now. the nation's chief law enforcement official once cited scripture to defend separating thousands of children from parents. tonight the process of reconnecting them is revealed as unholy mess. the trump administration had a deadline tonight, not to reunify all families or even some families, merely to make sure every separated parent has a way to simply contact their child. so far no answer on whether they succeeded with even that. administration face as new dateline tomorrow and bar is lower even still, produce a list

under age five in custody and covered by the reunification order. more in a moment on that and what tells judge said. first a simple question about secretary alex who is responsible for caring for these children through the office of refugee resettlement. keeping them honest, what in heavens name was he thinking when he said this. >> there is no reason any parent would not know where their child is located. at key strokes i sat on the portal with basic key strokes could find any child any or care for any parent. >> said that ten days ago the same day a federal judge gave the administration on july 10 to return kids under five to their parents and set july 26 for the rest. no problem, just a few key strokes. just a few seconds, he said, but yesterday, secretary was saying, they did not even have an exact count of how many children it

had. somewhere below 3,000 he said, an estimate about children. an estimate. so what happened to those magical key strokes, those special buttons that find people within seconds, it seems their super powers don't include actual counting. still he did say that will hhs would meet all it will deadlines. >> we will lcomply with the artificial deadlines provided by the court. we will comply even if it prevents us from conducts a standard process. >> turns out yesterday was so yesterday. today the administration said it might need more time and secretary gave another conference call this time for lawmakers. senator richard blumenthal a democratic from connecticut said i just got off the phone with hhs. horrified after conference call. no separated children have been reunited. no system, to plan, to sure to

reunification, no answers to key questions. strategy seems to be blame everyone else. another democratic senator said the call was and i am quoting here, vagueness. sort of the way this is. >> there's no reason why any parent would not know where theirle chi lchild is located. >> keeping them honest, there was evidence it was flawed from outset. essentially reclassified as entering the country unaccompanied which obviously they were not. then after a few days in border holding facilities handed over to hhs and taken to all corners of the country. parents meantime stayed in border patrol custody with records in separate databases. "new york times" citing officials said this was a big problem. hhs said today it's not, but, again, the department is still scrambling trying to reunify a

single-family recruiting volunteers. using dna testing. then there's this. the court system sought clarification on whether they have to reunite migrant kids with parent who is are already deported and argued it would be too difficult and time consuming. meaning what exactly? is the doj asking why even bother in what does it say that the people who took these kids in the first place are now asking a judge if they really have to bother to give them back. more now on the breaking news, court hearing in the new dateline in what the administration said, cnn sunland s joins us now. >> i think it's pretty unclear tonight. they say they'll believe they'll make at least one of those dlooi deadlines. the decline today to have phone calls between kids and separated parents. on the more desperate deadlines, say they will likely fall short

and need more time. tuesday is the deed line to reunite all kids under the age of five. that's about 100 kids: by july 26 will need to have reunited all kids separated from parents. the court saying they do not expect to meet those deadlines because officials today said they don't know the location of every parent. in court they really attempted to lay out before the judge why they believe in their opinion this process is so challenging to them notable that these are challenges of course of their own making saying things like dna testing takes a long time. so that was significant today here in court. now in court, we did also learn new information about that group of kids about 100 kids who were under the age of five. among that group, 19 parents, 19 parents of those children have already been deported. that really speaking, john, to they still don't know exactly where the parents are if they were to try to reunite these

kids with their parents. the judge did ask the government to list by 5:00 p.m. tomorrow on saturday of all these children under five and they will reconvene court on monday morning. >> what do we know about what was said during hhs conference call with lawmakers, lawmakers critical about it. >> that's right. very unhappy about that call. there was a call on the house side with house members and senate side with senators and i spoke to many members after that call and aides who were also on the call. they're dissatisfied. they say it's just appointing the level of information really wasting no time to blast that hhs secretary over twitter. do you highlight thad one tweet from senator blumenthal who said he's furious, horrified after the call. that was is sentiment i heard from many members. they expected there would be some new information from the secretary today and they did not give any new information beyond what they gave to press 24 hours ago. significant that many of those aides said they thought it was a

waste of time, total propaganda. certainly lawmakers very disappointed and expect to push the secretary for more. for now, they have nos ones. >> sunland, thanks so much. jason, you were very critical of secretary atsar and his mixed message yesterday. yesterday's mixed message became today's muddled message. yesterday, he essentially admitted he couldn't count how many kids had been separated from parents that were in custody. the one thing he did say yesterday was that they would meet the deadlines in reunifying them with parents. today the government says, no, we're not going meet the deadlines. we need an extension. what's going on here? >> again, today we're seeing same problems we saw yesterday with the mixed messaging coming out and not having facts. this is really what the problem is with us and where the administration needs to do much better is we can't have this information coming out in bits and pieces and being

incompletely and contradicting previous pieces. we need to be on top of details. get the kids reunited and go through the process and deported out of the country if they're not accepted through the asylum process. obviously we're finding out now we did get more information today about the 49 children that have now spoken with their parents. we are seeing some of them being brought together in very short order here. i can understand if they say where we've matched up children with their parents. we need a little extra time. we want to make sure we're getting the right kids with the right parents. want to make sure there aren't criminal backgrounds. if they means a couple extra days. that means to be communicatcomm clear and consistent game plan. the bigger problem here is there are still folks trying to come across the border every single day. >> we are talking about a group of people again separated from their parents by the u.s.

government. when you said they need to match them, wit t them, it was the government that split them up. >> critical point and this was part of the thing we found out over the last 24 hours or so. this is part of the hangup with the judge and we have a problem getting this done, a lot of the kids have been separated from the parents. this happened even before zero tolerance policy went into affect, but the judge's ruling said that all had to be together is what we found. that's why dhs knows to the exact number of children. >> that doesn't explain why the government couldn't count them. that doesn't explain why the government can't connect it all by phone call and why they can't match them when this is the government that did it. anna, you heard secretary atsar say this is an artificial deadline presented by the judge here. is that a compelling argument. >> look, i think it's how they see it. i think they're being truth. . what we can see from the government is number one, they're incompetent.

they're despicable liars. they've been lying about this since day one. number three they can't get this done. they feel no sense of urgency. there seems to be little genuine will to get this done. because it's immigrants. because they can abuse immigrants. because they can treat immigrants this way. any 16-year-old kid in a summer job would be expected to keep a count of inventory. this is an inventory of -- isn't a they can't give answers to the court. they can't give answers to the press. they can't give answers to lawmakers. here in south florida, carlos curbelo, republican, republican congressman from district 26 tried to go visit one of the centers that is in his district. he had given hhs all of the ample time and advice and announcement. he wasn't allowed in. they canceled his visit last

night with less than 24 hours because they have no answers. they are the keystone cops. whether you are for or against immigration regardless of how you feel about this issue, you should be embarrassed. every american should be embarrassed by the level of incompetence that is being revealed through this process. >> where is the president on this? i know he's got a supreme court nomination to make. he was in montana giving a political rally. couldn't he be behind the desk making phone calls trying to make a process. he likes to get things done. i haven't seen him working to reunite children with their parent >> my understanding is the administration knows exactly how serious it is and moving behind the scenes. >> where is the president on it? where isn't he the public face on this? why isn't he calling out hhs saying get your act together. get this done. >> my ununderstanding is that t president is making sure they

know how serious it is and they have to move on it quick. something ana said and i agree with, we're talking about people here. there's a rush to go and talk about this and the numbers. these are human beings. and this is why i think the security side of this and making sure we're getting the right kids with the right parents and we're not handing kids over to drug traffickers or human traffickers or mules or anything like this is very important because it could be one child, it could be ten, it could be 50. we don't know how many could possibly be mismatched or sent to the wrong people. again, some of these kids put through perilous situations in their journey north from central america. we don't mow who they might be sent back for. >> indeed. perilous journeys and then separated when they got over here. >> look, i don't think the president cares. okay. he has shown very little everyone think towards any of this. it's a bunch of brown immigrants

from places like guatemala. >> anna, you can't say that. >> of course i can say that. he has been calling immigrants criminals and rapists. >> you have no idea of that. >> he has shown us time and time again how he feels about immigrants. he has dmemonized immigrants frm day one. >> from june 15, 2016, he came down the stairwell is and first thing he did was focus on attacking immigrants and he has not stopped since. >> he wants to enforce our border and enforce immigration laws. >> he has called the country that they come from shit holes. he has given so many indications during the time as candidate and president that he does not give a damn. >> completely disagree. i think the president wants to secure the border like americans do. need stronger immigration laws. and also the president wants to

get comprehensive immigration plan done. kudos to the president pushing that. i said very clearly the administration needs to do a better job with the problem in front of us right now and been very clear to that point. >> kudos to no one for getting the kids reunited state. >> dewane: that's like joe, tweeted a different conversation every day. >> i appreciate your time. a new court filing from the russia special counsel's team after the very first time connects the charges against paul manafort with the campaign he ran, the trump campaign. as far as the president is concerned, not only do the charges have nothing to do with the campaign, he practically suggests the former campaign chairman had nothing to do with his campaign. >> i think a lot of it is unfair. i look at some where they go back 12 years: like manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. i feel a little badly about it. they went back to get things he did 12 years ago. paul manafort worked for me for

a very short period of time. worked for ronald reagan, bob dole, he worked for me for what, 49 days or something. a very short period of time. >> was a pretty big job and it was longer than that. in any case, things change. sara murray has the breaking news for us. mueller team says manafort bank fraud trial does have a campaign connection. what can you tell us about that. >> put out a new court filing where we're getting the new details. didn't expect manafort's role in the trump campaign was going to be featured in the trial he was face ugh. has to do with financial crime, has to do with foreign lobby and allegations he's facing, basically said look we intend to present evidence a banker helped secure more than $6 million in loans while seeking a position in the trump campaign and went on to become an adviser to the trump campaign and get a role in the administration although they were not capable of doing it. here's how that fits in. prosecutors alleged paul

manafort used false information to get morgues and introduced thad mortgage money as free income then they're saying we need to explain how he was able to continue to get these loans and the reason at least in this case they say he was able to get these loans despite the dubious loan application was because the banker who was helping him get the money had personal ambitions of his own. >> counsel also asked the judge to move the trial from virginia to. this could stretch on for a while if the judge decides to grant these requests, but in ferms terms of changing the area where the trial is going to happen, the first trial in virginia, manafort's team is arguing it's so saturated around washington, d.c. in the beltway that there's no way he could get a fair trial, impartial jury and

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: so president trump is trashing his political partners. now taking heat for saying this last night about the senator who is fighting brain cancer not mentioning him by name, but singling out for no vote on repealing the affordable care act. >> you all remember thaecevenin. somebody came in with a thumbing down after campaigning for years he was going to repeal and replace, but that's okay because we for the most part have already done it. >> he also refrained from

actually naming president george h.w. bush. instead mocked the charitable movement that he launched. >> we are finally putting america first. we're putting america first. and by the way, all the rhetoric you see here. 000 points of light. what did that mean? i know one thing, make america great again, we understand. putting america first, we understand. thousands points of light. i never quite got that one. what the hell is that. has anyone ever figured that out? >> today the reaction came and it was harsh. former bush and 40 free staffer just 43 called it rude t. reverend jesse jackson defended many bush as soldier, president. thousand points of light

representing how people can share. represents 20 million hours of volunteer service a year. yesterday brought together five presidents to raise money for gulf coast hurricane recovery. five presidents, but not president trump. his charity is being sued by the state of new york. joining us now is jim shults. i want to start with you on this question. republican circles about the question's words pretty harsh, pretty swift. what's the purpose of attacking george h.w. bush and specifically the words about a thousand points of light, a call to service. >> i don't understand why he ever would attack george h.w. bush or any republicans or john mccain or war veteran. it makes no sense. i'm sure in his mind this is throwing red meat to his base. it's rude. not very kind and look if he's trying to make a point about slowi slogan and he's the king of

slogan, i'm all about make america glareat again, but let' make america gracious again. in a rally like this when he's out there campaigning for matt rosendale to beat senator tester. let's talk about jobs, let's talk about the economy. let's talk about taxes which he did, but it got overshadowed by constant need for attack and criticizing people. it worked throughout the campaign, worked throughout his administration. if it ain't broke don't fix it, but i think it's time for this kind of conduct and insulting especially of war heros to stop. >> my friends, we do have breaking news, i had papers handed to me from maggie and michael schmit of the "new york times." shifting strategy. new condition for the mueller investigation. rouge s rudy giuliani saying the president will not sit down with mueller's team unless the presidential counsel has evidence the president commit

add crime. the president will only speak to them if they can prove they have evidence he committed add crime. does that make any sense to you. >> i'm not surprised. it seems it's been going in that direction. rudy giuliani has been inching closer and closer towards that as think this strategy has played out. i'm not surprised saying he might not speak with the team unless the conditions are shown. remains to be seen whether that's a negotiating point or not, wouldn't be surprised if it's a negotiating point. certainly it would being is sming sm i something to watch in the coming days for sure. >> he wouldn't sit down unless he could prove he exhausted all other possibilities before coming to the president. it just seems to me they're raising the bar to this level it makes it unlikely if not impossible that the president will voluntarily agree to sit down. >> we're headed for a showdown, potential a constitutional

crisis in that bill clinton said look, i don't want to answer to a subpoena. i'll zit dosit down. he was trying to get himself to be a part of the process without giving up presidential prerogatives. people didn't like it, but they had respect for it. this seems to be a very different approach. he's trying to not participate. he's trying to create a situation where the bar is too high for a president to participate. you can't actually come up with the evidence of a crime sometimes if you can't talk to the person who may have committed the crime. we could be headed towards a real crisis. if mueller says i'm going to bring you in here and supreme court now to make a decision, does this president have the right to stand above the law. that's where we could be head. >> dewane: >> if you're talking about obstruction, the president's mind set matters and no one besides the president can really speak directly to his mind set. so he would have to testify in order to find out more about

that. i'm not saying he down forced to necessarily, but if that's what they want to find out, he could be the one to talk to. >> saying at the outset, president clinton just volunteered out of the goodness of his heart because he cared about the constitution is just ludicrous. >> you might want to get your hearing checked. there's called youtube. you can go back and look at what i said. what i said was that bill clinton did not want to respond to a subpoena. no president wants to give the law enforcement that power and concede to it. that i understand, but he did get himself in that chair. donald trump seems to not want to get this that chair. >> it's part of the negotiation. >> do you think this part of the negotiation. it doesn't really seem like the end game here is to have the president sit down on his terms. it seems to not have him sit down at all. >> i think the determination as

to whether he sits down or not is between the president and the president's lawyers. that can be argued back and forth. the issue of russia, the issue of the interference with the election, all of those issues are going to be front and center on the questions that mueller going to ask. >> yes. >> we've seen some of that already. >> i think one thing is clear the president and his lawyer rudy giuliani have laid the groundwork not to do this. making the political case and pr case not to sit down for months now. >> right. finally rudy giuliani said something that actually makes sense. and in was good advice. hopefully the president will embrace this advice and do everything he can to try and avoid testifying or if he can try to limit the scope, limit the amount of time and limit the topics. however, it's not up to him. it's up to mueller and what he wants to do and how he wants to

conduct the investigation. >> last question before we have to go. might be up to the supreme court. if mueller issues a subpoena, the president fights it. could get up to supreme court. the deciding judge, we don't know, could be a person whose announced monday night by president trump. how's that? >> listen, it's reality television show inside of a soap opera rapped up in a thriller and deep fry instead crazy. the whole thing in insane. you really could be in a situation right now where the president is picking the supreme court justice that will decide whether or not he has to answer to subpoena. that's just the -- that's just called friday in america now aday >> and brett, who may be the leading cabinet, has written he doesn't think in most cases the president should be investigated. this will be fascinating. appreciate you being with us and helping us cover the breaking news. when we do return, breaking news out of thailand. planned rescue attempt to free the soccer team as soon as this

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circumstances have changed in thailand. the breaking news there could be an attempt to get them out as soon as this weekend as oxygen levels decline and more rain sets in. on the scene and joins me now. tell us about the status of this latest possible operation that could involve support from u.s. divers. >> yes, we're told that u.s.

divering could be involved in an operation as soon as this weekend trying to get kids out of this cave. basically the situation has become more urgent. oxygen levels inside that cave have gone down. they're down to around 15% right now. normal would be around 21%. so at that 15 level, you're talking about hypoxia. can lead to altitude sickness and worse. there have been a thought for a long time that worst-case scenario ride out the rainy season for months if necessary under ground, but given the oxygen levels, that's not an option anymore. now rescuers are facing an option where they may have to go in and get the kids out sooner. even if they're not ready. even if health is great. even the oxygen levels aren't high enough. would mean a diving operation. remember these kids have no dives experience. they can barely swim a lot of them. and so that would be an operation with danger. >> matt, we also know that this

experience thai diver died. how has moral been since that happened. >> i mean, when that happened, it kind of crystallized instead a really heart breaking way how dangerous this is. you thad jubilation of initially finding these kids. reality has set in about how difficult it's going to be to get these kids out here safely. look at the man who lost his life. a 38-year-old try athlete. former professional thai navy diver. he ran out of air in this cave and lost his life. if that can happen to him. how would a group of boys handle that on their own. because of that, moral has dipped a bit. everyone is still optimistic. has a sense of mission and purpose. want to get kids out safely. there is a strong sense of reality here, john, this is not going to be easy and this really is a choice between a lot of bad options. >> matt rivers, thank you.

since oxygen levels are dropping inside the cave, time is of the essence. we go to tom foreman with more on the restricted air flow and virtual look at the layout of the cave. >> john, the only thing that makes air move in and out of a cave tip which is a change of temperature outside. once you move two and a half miles in and more than a half mile down like this, that produces very little effect. in practical terms, these boys and their coach are in a sealed chamber where the air is indeed running low. how low, they should be getting 21% oxygen in every breath they take. right now seems to be like 15%. stick with that long enough, that will decrease ability to work strenuously, impair coordination and thinking. even instances where this causes decreased vision in low light. yes, they're taking oxygen in to them. that could help some. this is a very worrisome development. >> how much progress are they making in terms of getting water

out of the cave. >> a lot, but not enough yet. they're pumping a tremendous amount right now. they're pushing out about 435,000 glans per hour. that's two-thirds of an olympic swimming pool just trying to open some brief narrow window to rush these kids out, but the indications we're getting from inside the cave is that they're not making enough progress. there's still many places that are flooded so much they absolutely would have to take them in scuba gear under water in the dark for 20 minutes, 30 minutes. bedon't know. just know it's difficult and not getting better. all the pumping they've been doing so far has been aimed at the rain that fell since the bows went into the cave right here. they've had a little lull. much worse rain is showing up in the next few days. there's no indication that the pumps can handle that. >> so tom, we've heard so much about the difficulty for professional divers getting back and forth to the boys. one has now died in the process.

can you explain? >> the currents are bad. the limited visibility is bad. the single worst thing they seem to be encountering here is the length of the package. some portions are so small only one person can fit through. even the divers are taking off tanks to go through some parts here. you can see how that would headacmake it very hard to bring in supplies. virtually impossible to run an air destruct through here. imagine pulling a frightened, exhausted teenager under water. even if for the professionals it's taking six hours to get from outside to where the boys are. that's why some engines are saying use this as a highway of aide. take stuff into these kids. try to take care of them and get up top and start pounding through a supply hole. not a very big one. enough to put water and food and air into them and keep these

young people alive until you can effect a rescue. >> it is a daunting challenge. tom foreman, thanks so much. stay with us. a lot more news ahead including the defense of congressman accused of ignores years of substance abuse by a teen doctor when he was a wrestling coach at ohio state.

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president trump took a swipe at the me too movement. also said senator elizabeth warren who claimed native american heritage as background. >> pocahontas. they always want me to apologize for saying that. let's say i'm debating pocahontas. i promise i'll do this. take those little kits you sell for $2. learn your heritage. take that little kit and we have to do it gently because we're in the me too generation so we have to be very careful. and very gently take that kit and slowly toss it hoping it doesn't hit her and injure her arm. >> the president is famous for attacking people. he is also been quick to defend those who have been accused of bad acts. during the case of the most recent example congressman jim jordan accused of ignoring them.

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the running.still publically supported. >> he would have done a great job. >> these were all falls accusations. >> the president also defended rob porter after both ex-wives accused him of domestic abuse. >> trump said this. >> as you probably know he says he's innocent. i think you have to remember that. a series of women accused senate candidate roy moore for having relationships with teenagers and forcing himself on them. moore denied the claims. trump still supported moore in his senate run. >> he denies them. >> look, he denies them. he totally denies them. said it didn't happen. >> after fox nudes host bill o'reilly was accused of acting inappropriately with female guests on show, paid five accusers a combined $13 million

in exchange for silence. thing to that trump still had his back. telling the times quote, i don't think he should have settled. i don't think he did anything wrong. >> also when multiple people complained that fox news president sexually harassed them, ultimately leading to firing of the network, trump called the accusations totally unfounded and painted a rosy picture of aishim who also deni the complains. >> some of the women who are complaining, i know how much he's helped them and some recently. >> after all, donald trump has defended himself too. after more than a dozen women accused him of behaving inappropriately with them. he denied it all. mocking one at a campaign rally. >> when you looked at ha horrible woman last night, you said i don't think so. i don't think so. the stories are total fiction.

coming up, ever feel like the trump presidency is one giant reality show. two other men what took part of golden age of reality share their thoughts on the subject. anderson cooper and andy cohen. they get real next.

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to lead healthier lives and that's invaluable. ♪ this sunday night, prepare to be taken back in time to the 2000s. another deep dive into another fascinating decade. one thing that exploded, reality tv. anderson cooper was part of it and so was his good friend andy cohen of bravo tv fame. two pioneers if you will. the pair sat down together to reflect back on the era that reshaped the world of television as we know it. >> so when you started in like

2004, you started at bravo. >> yes. >> and you were the executive producer on we'queer eye. >> yes. project runway. those were the two big shows at bravo at that time. off the back of project runway, we created top chef. we wanted to do for food what we had done for fashion and really shows that highlighted creativity. >> what do you think it was about reality tv, particularly at that time, that exploded? >> for us, it was about unique people who were super talented. >> why are you shouting by the way? >> i know. i always shout. >> i feel like you're shouting. >> i always shout in interviews. >> okay. >> for us, it was about unique, creative people who were extremely talented being creative on tv in the fields of food, fashion, beauty, and design. those were the shows that really launched bravo starting with queer eye. >> i've heard you described

housewives as sort of a modern-day soap opera. >> housewives has replaced soap operas completely. it's the great modern-day soap opera. it's been going about 12 years. i don't think even we realized what we had in 2006 when the real housewives of orange county premiered. >> how many of the success of reality tv is the economics behind it, that it's obviously cheaper to do than, you know, scripted programs? >> i think the economics of reality tv was a large driver in the huge output of reality tv in the early 2000s. i think people started saying, wait a minute, "survivor" is hitting. "big brother" is hitting. >> "the mole" is hitting. >> and kind of went out like a thud. noble try. too confusing. >> it was. >> i tried. i was your friend. i don't understand this. if you're the host of "the mole," and you don't understand

it, problematic. >> there was a lot going on. >> yes. but, yes, the economics are what got people in. once people were in, it was like, wait a minute. you realize this is a format where you can do anything. if you look at the different genres of reality tv, there are so many. there are talent-based. there are competition shows. there are closed-ended shows. there are shows that have no format that are just fly on the wall. >> it's interesting how the world of politics has now been impacted by reality tv. obviously we have a president -- >> we have a president who is a reality star, and i think one of the reasons for his success is that he knows how to grab people's attention in front of the camera. there's no one more comfortable in front of a camera, and arguably there's no one who loves a camera more than donald trump. and all those years on "the apprentice" i think really taught him how to communicate with people, not that he didn't have it originally.

but you got to give it to the guy. >> andy, thanks very much. >> thanks, anderson. >> thanks, andy. >> so it wasn't just the mole or reality programming that changed tv and the landscape forever in the first decade of the millennium. the cnn original series "the 2000s" kicks off with the platinum age of tv this sunday at 9:00 p.m. here's a preview. ♪ >> you don't need to call it a guilty pleasure. just call it a pleasure. it's something you love watching. great tv comes in many forms. >> it was more cinematic looking. it was a whole new level on television. >> the decade gave us television reflecting what america looks like. >> then cnn's coverage of election 2000. >> the system had never had this kind of stress test before, and it failed. >> there has just been a huge explosion. i can't see that second tower. >> this has changed everything. they created the global war on terror. >> person after person saying where is the federal government? >> really did think the

financial world could collapse. >> what do you think? christine or britney? i said beyonce. ♪ take me out >> i could not believe i could take my music with me. >> the notion of living a digital life began to take hold. >> in the course of a decade, the world was changed forever. on choicehotels.com like this. surfs up. earn a $50 gift card when you stay just twice this summer. or, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com the winter of '77.uring i first met james in 5th grade. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn't stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that's why we'll always drive a subaru.

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