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have not been reunited. >> that first deadline of those under fives, there's no indication at this point they will make that deadline. >> separating families. separating young children from their parents, it was horrific. it's not who we are as a country. good morning. i'm dianne gallagher. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you this morning. there are signs of a shifting strategy for the president's legal team as they set new conditions for sit-down with special counsel robert mueller. >> "the new york times" reportsing president trump's lawyers want two thechk before agreeing to an interview, one, the special counsel's team must prove it has evidence the president committed a crime. two, the mueller team has to show they need testimony from the president to finish the russia probe.

these new conditions may be less of a sign that they're willing to cooperate and more of a signal that they plan to fight the investigators and focus more on the public battle of public opinion. we want to go live to sarah westwood in berkeley heights, nrks n, near where the president is spending the weekend. sarah. >> reporter: dianne, president trump sending another signal he will not cooperate with special counsel robert mueller. "the new york times" reporting the president's legal team made those statements yesterday rudy giuliani told the times, if they can come to us and show us the basis and it's legitimate and they have uncovered something, we can go from there and address thard objectivity. president trump and his allies

have spend months waging a war of public opinion against mueller, arguing this investigation is a witch hunt and pointing to text messages as evidence that the foundations of the investigation are ill illegitima illegitimate. obviously his legal team telling the special counsel there's now a new set of preconditions is indeed a sign that president trump is shifting his position here. trump and his allies have pushed mueller to wrap up the investigation. now, as we can see, president trump is continuing to resist what could be one of the final steps in concluding that probe, dianne and victor. >> sarah westwood traveling with the president. thank you so much. we're also learning about a trump campaign connection to paul manafort's money laundering trial. >> the former chairman gave $16 million while seeking a role in

the trump campaign. robert mueller's team plans to present that evidence at trial. here is sara murray with more. >> reporter: paul manafort's role as the former trump campaign chairman wasn't expected to be a part of his upcoming trials that have to do with financial charges and allegations of former lobbying work. special counsel robert mueller's team decided they would change all that putting out a new filing on friday evening. prosecutors say they node to present this information because they say manafort applied for mortgages and used that money basically as slush money. they're saying this banker help manafort continued to get loans even though the loan applications were dubious and the only way to make this clear is to tie in this banker's personal ambition to work in the trump campaign. this comes as paul manafort is making requests of his own. he's facing two trials right now, one inned with and one in virginia. he's trying to have the one in

virginia moved from alexandria, virginia, to roanoke. he says alexandria is too close to the d.c. beltway where the media market is saturated withm he does want his trial in virginia to start until after the one inned with. if the judge grants this, this saga could be going on for a while. sara murray, cnn, washington. let's with josie jackson and daniel lippman. gentlemen, welcome back to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> we've got man no fort and muleer. i'll start with the criminal defense attorney and the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani told the times this, if they can come to us and show us the basis and it's legitimate and they have uncovered something, we can go from there and assess their objectivity. is that typically how this works, joe? >> it is not.

however, there is not much typical about what's going on here in washington these days. i'll say this. this is a negotiation. the reality is that there is no settled law as it relates to compelling a sitting president to testify. i will remind everyone that nixon dealt with the turning over of tapes. we're talking about compelling testimony, not physical evidence. in as much as that goes, they're trying to negotiate so it doesn't get to n a issue where it rises to a court having to decide. if you remember clinton, victor, that was what he testified based upon a negotiated agreement between him and the special counsel, in order to give that testimony by closed circuit television, not present with with his lawyers there. the president's lawyers can ask for anything they want, a frappuccino, tickets to my

favorite game. the fact is, that doesn't mean the special counsel has to concede to these demands. in my view it's just another way of saying trump is not going voluntarily and it could reach the court in phenyl point, that's why the supreme court becomes so important. you talk about who is on that supreme court and that supreme court may very well make a decision as it relates to whether the president must or must not go and give testimony. >> excellent segue there. so let's go, daniel, to this, the timing of when this poe testimony subpoena fight as joey just suggested there is going to be important. we're four month out from the midterms. washington is going to be going into this battle over the next pick for the supreme court. just detail when this subpoena fight starts and how important that is to where it ends up. >> i think it depends on mueller's team and whether mueller himself thinks negotiations with trump's defense attorneys, basically, they are in the going to go

anywhere, their demands are getting more ridiculous. once they conclude that there's no point in still negotiating over this potential interview, and if they still need trump's take on everything that went down, then you're looking into something approaching september, october when they would subpoena. what trump's lawyers are worried about is he has a history of not telling the truth in these types of depositions, and just in general as a public figure. so they're worried they could get him on obstruction or just perjury. >> joey, let's switch to the manafort story line, and this new reporting that this bank executive who prosecutors say wanted a role in the campaign, wanted a role in the administration, subsequently got the role as an advisor in the campaign but not in the white house, helped manafort get millions in loans.

explain the legal exposure, the potential quid pro quo for the banker, for manafort and who is exposed here? >> put it this way, we're talking about evidence that would be introduced in the manafort trial. what they're attempting to do is to establish giving the jury information as to why the loans were approved. why they were approved is because you had a high-level executive intervene and otherwise overrule which perhaps would not be an approved loan because of the quid pro quo. hey, i want to be a part of the company and as a result of that i'm going to approve this loan. speaking as a defense attorney and not a political partisan, i'm moving to preclude this evidence. why should this trial be about president trump? there's two, the virginia and the d.c. trial, d.c. dealing with the eshoo of foreign lobbying and virginia dealing with financial records. this is about bank fraud, about whether or not the client

submitted information to the bank that was faulty in an effort to get a loan. it's not about trump, not about any tie in to trump. you'll move from a defense perspective to preclude that. if you're charging the executive because you say he did something amiss, that's another story for another day. i think the special counsel is trying to tie that in. i think the tie-in in and of itself makes it prejudicial. it will be up to the special counsel or someone else to make a decision as to whether the executive did anything wrong. but there are decisions made about giving loans that are based on discretionary information in addition to the merits of whether you have cred i worthiness. >> daniel, to you. the president, the white house, those who support the president say thus far the manafort cases have not involved the traen at all? they predate the 2016 involvement with the campaign. how does this introduction of evidence deflate at least that

story line. >> it makes it much harder to argue that point, especially because when you're a figural like manafort, you're heavily involved in everything the trump campaign was doing. so he was the point of contact for many people trying to get into the campaign. he knew -- a lot of people in washington knew about manafort's shady business dealings before, and they still hired him on the campaign. so that raises questions of judgment and evaluation of character on behalf of trump and anyone else who participated in hiring paul manafort in the first place. >> daniel lippman, joey jackson, thank you both. >> thank you, victor. right now, secretary of state mike pompeo is in tokyo to meet with south korean and jap nieces officials. he finished meetings with kim jong-un's top official. he was hammering out the

nitty-gritty stuff of a deal wean the u.s. and pyongyang. he said they, quote, made progress on almost all of the central issues even though there are new satellite images that appear to show pyongyang is completing work on a knew nuclear reactor. andrew, did mike pompeo address that seemingly expanding nuclear reactor? >> reporter: he was asked about it, dianne. he sort of skirted the issue, focusing on the progress that has been made at these meetings, several hours' long on friday, saturday and sunday with kim i don't know chul. the delegation said after the meetings that there was no expectation amongst the u.s. delegations that they were preparing to meet kim jong-un.

certainly a lot of media reports were led to believe that there were expectations that he would meet chairman kim. pom poe i don't was focusing on the fact that, yes, there was progress made, but there doesn't seem to be any specific breakthroughs here. there's no clear indication there's been a timeline established. mike pompeo wouldn't address or go into details on that sort of issue. there will be further meetings next week here in south korea, actually the dmz, the demilitarized zone about repatriating the remains of u.s. servicemen killed in the korean war. that is a step forward. they had been talking about that. mike pompeo, a couple of quotes, saying some places they had made great deal of progress. in other places there is still work that needs to be done, dianne. the north koreans also talked about a missile engine testing

facility which -- and the two principles spoke about the modalities around the destruction of that missile engine testing facility. like i said, no key breakthroughs coming out of this. it's more about meetings, further meetings down the road which will be sort of headed by the working groups on either side rather than the principles themselves. >> andrew stevens, thank you so much. this heartbreaking story we've all been following out of thailand. rescue teams are scrambling right now. the rains -- more rains are hours away. you see the radar on the left of your screen. those boys on the right there. will there be an attempt to get the boys out before the rain comes in? will they try this weekend? here at home, the trump administration has four days to reyawn unite children under the age of 5 that have been separated from their parent by the government. officials say they need more

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team from a flooded cave may start soon. >> this is why. let's put it up on the screen. they're trying to beat the weather that is on the way. more rains are just hours away. cnn's david mckenzie is live in thailand. tell us what's happening there and how soon these rescues could start rfr t start. >> reporter: the important moment from the saga lasting for two weeks now. there's an end case, a source says, there's a high chance of extraction happening very soon here near chiang rai. from that cave system, the tr h treacherous journey those young buy need to make, the same source saying the british specialist that first found these boys alive will be instrumental in that rescue operation. they'll be potentially

accompanying the boys through a section. we learned from drivers over the last few hours that they have had some success in pulling water out of those cabin systems. so the water is lower than it was before. just looking in the sky above me and the drops of rain that have been falling on and off, the rain could be coming soon, so they might have to move quickly. victor? >> david, this is dianne. out of curiosity, i know they have had some communication with the boys. they gave letters to their family members, correct? >> reporter: so poignant, yes. they sent in letters from the depths of the cave handwritten notes in thai, one boy nicknamed titan said he wanted to have fried chicken. he said it was promised to him, he wants to go with his grandmother. imagine being 11 and stuck for

15 days in this cave in the dark, facing the prospect of having to wear a full face mask and be dragged through zero visibility water for a good amount of time without knowing how to swim. that's what these rescuers are facing. we spoke to his father. he said he wants the boy out. he's kept his bedroom exactly how the boy left it. his mom said they will prepare to take him to that fried chicken joint as soon as he gets out. those are young kids. they just want to get on with their lives. they're facing this ordeal that as rescuers said, have never been attempted before. >> in addition to the concerns of the coming rains, there's also concerns about the oxygen in this pocket where the boys and their coach have been for two weeks. what are we learning about the amount of oxygen that's left there and the efforts they've

endured over the last couple of days to try to prepare for potential extraction? >> reporter: the oxygen is a critical issue. you're right, victor. those boys have been in a relatively small space that's concealed from outlets they believe. the oxygen levels have dropped down to 15% at some point. that can be highly dangerous for your long-term and short-term health. they've removed rescue workers who were attending to the boys to allow the oxygen to last longer. a former navy s.e.a.l. diver died after taking oxygen to those boys. he succeeded in the mission, paid the ultimate price. it shows with this international effort including u.s. forces i've seen on the ground today, they are here to try to use human ingenuity and skill. >> david, i'm seeing the

activity behind you. the main reason, coupled with the oxygen, is this incoming raen. explain how sirius heez rains are. we're talking about unimaginable amounts of rain in this very small space for them. >> reporter: in the mountains behind me, when the monsoon hits, it hits big in northern thailand. if you look at the weather reports, you could have big dumps of rain directly down on this catchment area. this means the water could flood the cave all over again. the commander of the operation, dianne, saying the boys could be constrained to a tiny piece of land where they are and even inundated. that's the worst possible scenario. previously they thought that weeks, maybe even months. because of the impending raens, they have a tight window. we don't know when they'll attempt to bring them out, but i believe it will be soon. when they do, it will be an

arduous one-by-one kind of operation. it will be many hours before we know who and how many of the boys get out safely. >> david mckenzie, we'll check in with you throughout this day as we know this extraction evidence fort could start very soon. thank you very much. >> using the oxygen of navy s.e.a.l.s to dive out with the boys, it's dangerous. as we've seen the conditions, they're daeng rougs, potentially deadly even for the most highly trained divers in the world. >> translator: it's zero visibility down there. you can't even see the face of your diving buddy. you can only do hand signals, gestures like, are you still okay. in the dark and the water it will be difficult for the divers to communicate with the children. >> the former navy s.e.a.l. spoke with cnn about how the options to rescue the boys

simply are not ideal. >> a very unique situation that's happening right now. you have this thai s.e.a.l. who has extensive experience and he died on the way out. the passages are narrow, it's cold, wet, he's tired. it would be concerned about the children and their state of mind. what they're trying to do is put a full face mask on them tooching them how to use that dive. that takes a long time to get proficient at it. again, the biggest problem -- one of the biggest problems they would have coming through is panic. i'm not going to try to armchair quarterback what's going on there with the professionals on the ground. you're talking about very bad options all around. >> you hear that and think of those young boys in there. those conditions, our gary tuchman went along with a team of cave divers for an up-close look at the striel of treacherous conditions the

divers are facing. >> reporter: i walk in 40-degree water with two of the preeminent cave divers, sergeant wendell mope is the trainer of the public safety dive team. richard lamb is a civilian who is part of the team. we're in utah's logan canyon. in a cave system similar to the one in thailand where the young boys and coach are trapped. >> this cave is flooded with snowmelt water. the cave in thailand is flooded with monsoon water. >> reporter: both men begin their scuba voyage into the cave with our cameras, to give us a look at the dangers and show us why you absolutely never do anything like this without cave diving certification. just getting into this nearly half mile long cave system requires squeezing through a narrow tunnel. this is not the narrowest tunnel

they will face in waters that go as deep as 90 feet. >> are you scared sometimes when you go in a cave like this? >> i have at times been afraid when something unexpected happens. >> reporter: including equipment failure, changes in water depth and falling rocks and boulders that can leave you trapped. >> my big fest fear is running out of air before i make ut out of the cave. the truth is i've been stuck in this cave. >> reporter: stuck for about six minutes, richard lamb says. it crossed his mind he was in serious trouble. he was rescued by sergeant nolan. to become cave diver certified, one requirement is you must be at least 18 years old due to the difficulty and skill needed which raises another concern for the boys in tie lapd, some as young as 11 and several who can't swim. >> in my perception, it is a last resort, but it is a viable

means. >> if it's the only resort. >> if it's the only resort. >> officials in thailand are pumping water out of the caves around the clock. a much better option says this master diver. >> i believe if the raen were to subside enough that the pumps could draw enough water out of the cave, that would be an optimal scenario. >> reporter: this frinl id watery cave is so a dangerous, we've been told that more people have walked on the moon than have navigated through this. our two experts tell us, in addition to themselves flks they know only five people who have gone through here. >> the serk stances for the boys and their soccer coach in thailand remain life-threatening. these utah experts have faith in their diving colleagues on the scene. >> when a human being is faced with seemingly insurmountable challenges, we seem to rise to that challenge. >> reporter: gary tuchman, cnn,

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breaking news, a thailand navy official saying moments ago rescue efforts to save a young soccer team from a flooded cave may start soon. you're looking at live pictures from outside the cave. a few moments ago we saw buddhist monks being taken in there. they may be walking out right now. we're not sure what soon means at this point. you can see them going in again in thailand. >> this is video of them walking to the mouth of the cave. they had been holding vigil outside that cave every night. this is now day 14. let's go, we have micco passi, a finnish diver who has been there for quite some time. he can give us an idea of the job ahead for these boys and

their coach. thank you for joining us. we're told this can happen soon. your biggest concern having gone from what we understand a little more than a half mile into this ca cave. >> that's true, yes. yesterday we went to chamber number seven to bring some supplies for the kids. >> what is your biggest concern about this rescue operation micco? >> i would say at the moment the weather, as long as we we ha have -- installing more pumps than ever and it's going down very fast, but the weather is turning in a little bit. that might affect the outcome because it rain hard in monsoon

time. let's a lot of water in to the cave system in about three hours. that will be one of the biggest concerns. >> mikko, explain how this goes about? you were talking about how because this space is so small only a few divers can actually reach the boys? >> yes. there's very small restrictions, passage weigh where only one guide can help them squeeze through. and heavy traffic in those tunnels will impede the visibility. you can get disoriented or other ways you have to back off or it's going to get -- even get confused. it's been limited, only limited

amount of divers in the cave system. >> you explained to david mckenzie the challenges of such a tight space. you're a professional rescue diver. some of these boys, as we know, do not even know how to swim much less dive. what are your concerns for their ability to get out and quickly and without becoming anxious? >> there's a lot of concern of trying to approach the most simple and solid way of doing it like rescuers taking care of the children along the way. >> you volunteered to come in and help with this rescue mission. has it been something that you have been able to -- you feel like you've been able to use the resources that you have? there are a lot of skilled divers there. >> evidence' bei've been living

for almost 20 years. we've done this before. we or part of the rescue team. we have a little history. we are special liesed in technical diving and we have the specialized geer for this cave diving. i started in malta in europe. one thing led to another and i was calledover because of the special equipment that i had and the traning. that led me to come over here. >> you have a dive school. explain that. the likelihood of being able to teach these boys how to dive is almost none in this amount of time. how exactly are they going to be able to dive out with them? how can they get these boys out with zero -- as victor was saying, ability to swim, and

definitely no diving instruction? >> i didn't quite hear the whole question. many people might think it's -- there's some restrictions. with the water levels going down, more and more of the cave system is becoming like a river. there are air pockets and you dive a little bit and come to another air pocket. yesterday it was very good because of hundreds of meters, not submerged caves anymore, but you can actually float, that makes it much more easier. the level of the water is dropping all the time. hour-by-hour we are looking at more space to swim instead of

dive. >> mikko, thank you so much for helping us understand what you're seeing and doing from your vantage point. on the right of your screen you've got live pictures there taking them full outside that cave. over the last few minutes, there's been an increase in activity there. we're told by the thai navy, an official, that the rescue may happen soon because they're racing the weather. there's more rain on the way which could make this even more difficult to try to get these boys and their coach out. we, of course, will continue to follow this breaking news as now day 14 since these boys first went into the cave, this could be the day they come out. >> still to come on cnn, the trump administration has until tuesday to reunite children who are under the age of 5 separated from the parents by their government. officials say they still may need a little more time. all the uncertainty is

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>> the administration has until tuesday to reunite the children. by july 26th, all children must be reunited. officials say they need more time to track down the dozens of parents no longer in custody including the 19 who have already been deported. all of this confusion and uncertainty is continuing to prolong the anguish of these separated families. >> one guatemalan mother has not seen her son since may and has no idea when she will see him again. cnn's miguel marquez has her story. >> reporter: she's 39 from guatemala. she may be the first separated parent to get out of detention after going through a normal immigration process after president trump seend an executive order ending the separation of families as part of his zero-tolerance policy. >> i can't stand being apart from my son she says. just give me my son. she hasn't seen her 10-year-old

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