of comedy." you're going to want it to see it this sunday. i'm wolf blitzer. thanks very much for watching. i'll be live from helsinki all day monday after the trump-putin summit. in the meantime erin burnett out front starts right now. out front next, 12 russians indicted. nearly 200 charges against 32 individuals in the mueller probe so far. is the so-called witch hunt finding real witches? plus the focus on roger stone intensifying. tonight the trump confidant appears to be the unnamed individual in the vieindictment. plus sorry is the hardest word for the president, so was his apology to theresa may sincere? let's go out front. and good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight the breaking news, it's on. the white house says president trump's one-on-one with the

russian president vladimir putin is going ahead despite a lot of calls to cancel it. those calls are coming after the special counsel bob mueller indicted 12 russians from putin's own government including russian military officers. think about that, russian military officers who according to a 29-page indictment we got today conducted large scale operations to interfere with the 2016 election and hacking e-mails of computer innetworks and stealing information of about 500,000 american voters and methodically releasing the e-mails of presidential candidate hillary clinton. we now have the total charges in mueller's investigation at 191 against 32 individuals and three companies. these indictments driving a stake through the heart of the president's biggest talking point, that the russian

investigation is a hoax, a ruse, and to quote trump's favorite word, a mere witch hunt. >> i would call it the witch hunt. i would call it the rigged witch hunt. it's a total witch hunt. it's a democrat hoax. they have this witch hunt. that was a democrat hoax. it's a witch hunt. phony witch hunts. i think it was a hoax. it's like a witch hunt. this is hoax. the witch hunt continues. i call it the russian hoax, one of it great hoaxes. the entire thing has been a witch hunt. this is pure and simple witch hunt. >> 191 charges is no witch hunt. and the white house now is saying, well, okay, but the trump campaign is exonerated. they put out a statement today and wrote, quote, today's charges include no allegations of growing involvement by anyone in the campaign and no allegations that the alleged hacking affected the election result. this is consistent with what we have been saying all along.

okay, well, the white house keep in mind and just look at this. and there's a lot of issues with this, but in particular referring to the hacking as alleged, that is not the word that trump's own team has used when it comes to russian hacking. in fact, his own intelligence chiefs have said definitively russia is hacking the election and russia is doing it again now. >> and i participated in that 2017 work. i stood by it then and standby it now and i agree with director pompeo this is not going to change or stop. >> yes, it is not going to change or stop. >> throughout the entire community we have not seen any evidence of any significant change from last year. >> and by the way, when they say it's consistent with what they've been saying all the way along, it's far from consistent with what the president of the united states has been saying all along. in case you forgot, here you go. >> maybe there is no hacking. but they always blame russia.

and the reason they blame russia because they think they're trying to tarning me with russia. i'll go along with russia. could have been china, a lot of different groups. but also could have been somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay? >> there was hacking and this is definitive thing, not a question. and by the way, no, it was not a random 400-pound guy. evan perez is out front. the white house coming out and saying this exonerates the president, does it? >> it does not, erin. and it doesn't exonerate the campaign, people inside the campaign. this is an investigation that is still ongoing. it's not over by a long shot. and keep in mind these were charges that were brought against 12 russian military intelligence officers. it's got their names, their rank. it's got the unit that they were working for. and these are charges that were approved by a republican appointee of donald trump, rod rosenstein is the man who's

overseeing this investigation. and today he said this investigation is now going to be moving over from the special counsel robert mueller to the head of the national security division of the justice department, the prosecutors who run national security prosecutions. and guess what? that person was nominated and approved by donald trump. so these are his own nominees now who are putting a lie really to the claims that you hear from the white house that this is alleged, that this may or may not be russians. it makes it clear here as the president gets ready for his summit meeting with the russian leader that there are specifics in this indictment showing exactly who did it, who approved it, and the president really has all the information he needs to be able to confront vladimir putin if he wants to. >> right. and i guess the operative, evan, to what you're saying is if he wants to. i know you're also learning tonight u.s. intelligence

officials have gotten more intelligence on some of these russians named in these indictments. >> one of the things that has come through in this indictment is the level of penetration the fbi and intelligence services had on the russians. they know their names, exactly who they were and their rank and also had clearly access to their communications. and one of the things we've learned is that the intelligence community had been able to collect intelligence including them celebrating and congratulating each other not only for the operation that they had carried out but also after it in their view had been successful in helping to elect donald trump, they were celebrating that fact. look, the idea that the russians had a clear preference for president trump and they were trying to hurt hillary clinton, that much is clear. and the intelligence keeps coming in to bolster that. >> all right, avenue avan perez, thank you for breaking that.

so when it comes out, you know, late this morning, okay, there's going to be an announcement from rod rosenstein. obviously like everything else in the special counsel it didn't leak before, nobody saw it coming. how significant are these indictments? what does it tell you about where mueller is? >> this indictment obviously is a major step in the special counsel's investigation and the counter intelligence and then prosecution of the individuals responsible for hacking the dnc, accessing and hacking the hillary clinton's campaign and trying to influence the 2016 election. so i think this is a major step. it's significant as a national security matter and as a criminal prosecution matter that the department of justice named 12 russian military intelligence officers. as you've pointed out, this was not some side operation by some backwater entity in the russian government. this was a major military intelligence activity that was

directed at the american elections and american democracy. and what rod rosenstein made clear today, what the director of national intelligence coates has said and all national security leaders in the government have said is that this activity was not limited to the 2016 election. but they are really showing the scope of what is an ongoing threat from a national security perspective. >> and yet, gloria, the white house response today was to try to again dismiss the whole thing. today's charges, here's their quote, include no allegations by anyone in the campaign and no allegations the alleged hacking affected the election result. this is consistent with what we have been saying all the way along. obviously it's not consistent at all with what the president has said. what about this, we're all in the clear argument that they're making? >> well, first of all that's ridiculous. there is no we're all in the

clear argument. i mean, rod rosenstein chose his words very carefully. he said there's no allegation in this indictment that any american citizen committed a crime. and then he went onto say the special counsel's investigation is ongoing. what we are seeing is a very carefully planned rollout. you know, we had the first traunkh of indictments of russians and then the second one. and the second thing i want to say about the white house statement is that where was the president congratulating the justice department for some astonishing forensics here, investigating our election and the hacking into our democracy by the russians? i mean, that was -- that was nowhere in this. and where was the president also saying that this cannot stand,

this is war, a declaration of war against our democracy? the only republican i heard today say that outright was of course john mccain who did that in a statement. but, you know, to me it's just what donald trump wanted. he sees what's right in front of his nose and he still sees this as a threat to delegitimize him. i mean if the hacking had been done on donald trump rather than on hillary clinton we might be hearing a different story. who knows? >> well, certainly at 130 plus charges i think there's no question you'd be hearing a different story. when you say witch hunt, where's this investigation going? 132 charges of more than 30 companies, three americans so far. i mean it's pretty stunning the scope of the mueller investigation. and bob you just heard evan perez say the u.s. intelligence actually found these russian

officers, senior intelligence officers were actually celebrating their success after trump won, which is pretty stunning evidence about what they did and what they thought they accomplished in the election. >> well, erin, in this intelligence you don't get any better than this. look at it this way, the intelligence we have on russia on the meddling is better than we had against bin laden on 9/11. and clearly they know a lot more than they're telling. if they know the russians were congratulating each other undoubtedly that was on telephone intercepts. it kraubcorroborates the indict, they've got the names and russia attacked us in 2016. and it really bothers me he's encouraging the russians to do this in a speech, which tells me, frankly, we are getting so much closer to conspiracy than i thought we'd ever get. i mean this is bombshell, and

again i say the intelligence is brilliant. >> and erin, let me just point out -- and i recommend everyone read it because it reads like a novel. and one thing that was pointed out in this indictment was on july 27th when the president came out during the democratic convention, you'll remember this, he said to the russians publicly if you have any of those 30,000 e-mails of hillary clinton let them out. and we learned in this indictment that's exactly what they did. they started spear fishing that day and started following -- >> let me just -- you're absolutely right, gloria. i actually want to play it because you're referring to the speech. the russians actually tried to hack hillary clinton's office e-mail account and then candidate trump got on stage and said this. i want to play it. >> russia, if you're listening i hope you're able to find the

30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. >> i mean, you know, gloria says the same day it was, and it was just a few hours after he did that. the russians literally started to spear fish at the clinton campaign. i mean that is pretty incredible, isn't it. >> it is. and, you know, at the time it was, erin. as someone who's worked with the intelligence community for many years during the summer of 2016 that clip was one example and a very strong example when he called on russia to actually hack his opponent's e-mails and find the old e-mails. but what happened over the course of the summer he frequently was lauding wikileaks according to the intelligence community and he continually made statements along these lines. and as someone who works in counter intelligence issues,

that was so surprising to anyone in the national security community at the time. and so what this new indictment today does is it actually gives us some specifics to look at now and to understand what investigators have uncovered that not only was he making that call for them to do something on that day but then they actually went and tried to do something about it. >> i mean, bob, that is pretty stunning. the president later said he was joking but obviously the russians weren't taking it that way. they were listening closely and within hours were doing it? >> not only that but they were communicating with roger stone, an advisor to the campaign. they were looking for recognition on the hacking. trump says go ahead hack, the russians hack and they said is this good. and clearly russia wanted to be rewarded for interfering in our elections. i just don't understand how the

president of the united states has security clearance? because if any federal employee of the united states were caught like this, they would be pulled immediately. >> saying to the russians come on go hack us, it doesn't mention it at all. >> it doesn't and that's what's crucial. there are some things in there unnamed that could be very crucial to where we're headed. one of them is the man just mentioned, roger stone. is he the person in the indictment who communicated with the russians. sam nunberg is my guest. plus, why is the president still joking about confronting putin about russia? >> i don't think you'll have any, gee, i did it, i did it, you got me. there won't be a perry mason here, i don't think. and then the president's obsession with the british royal family. ♪

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the conspirators wrote to a person who was in regular contact, quote, thank you for writing back, did you find anything interesting in the docs i posted, and there were other conversations they detailed. and the reason everyone believes it's trump's long time friend roger stone is it that it's stone had the exact same exchanges mentioned in the indictment on the exact same date mentioned with guccifer 2.0. and i will show them to you. i have them because roger stone himself released them in march of last year. he did so about six months after the exchanges happened, a month after saying he didn't recall them, and finally two days after the smoking gun website wrote an article about those same messages. so then he put them out there. now we see them almost word for word in the indictment but of

course stone not mentioned by name. sam, i'm really glad to have you back. thanks so much. so roger stone told cnn today, sam, that he doesn't believe he is the unnamed person in the indictment who had these conversations with guccifer 2.0. what do you think? >> well, if you pointed to that i'm not sure roger had reviewed the indictment but i think they're referencing roger. with that said, erin, it's a very important point i said that when i communicated with roger about this roger told me he met with the assange and i believed him at the time. i asked him if assange had information on benghazi, and roger said, no, it was going to be information about the clinton foundation. i never spoke to him about guccifer. and what i would also say is when i had these arguments with roger worried about him saying do not publicly associate with these people, roger would argue with me and he believed and i

truly think that he believed that it wasn't the russians that did the hacking. so it goes more into his mens rea and his intent, but we'll find out because i think roger stone is a critical piece for bob mueller who wants to get a major return on investment on special counsel he's spending a lot of money, and roger is the point to make an impeachment. >> when stone today said, again, despite the fact that the dates and everything match up, put that aside for a second, sam. he says the reason in the campaign, in the indictment, i'm sorry, it said the conspirators posing as guccifer 2.0 wrote a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the campaign of donald j. trump. stone says that can't be me because i wasn't in regular

contact with members of the trump campaign. in terms of not an excuse of that not being him, that doesn't add up to anybody. does that to you? >> it actually does and i i'll tell you why. i was fired six weeks into the campaign. we had this discussion on your show how i felt i was badly treated. and roger definitely i would assume had contact when paul manafort and rick gates were running the campaign. i don't know how much contact he had with the campaign when steve bannon took it over. i would assume it wasn't as much contact as that. and the other thing i think it's critical, i just want to point out in roger's defense is roger never spoke to me abo aboabou about foreknowledge of anything having to do with podesta, where he says it's going to be podesta's time in the barrel. and it follows roger's explanation about the daily

collar. an article he wrote. so i don't know how much contact he would have had with steve bannon when he was running the campaign. >> but he had contact with trump -- i mean, he had regular contact with trump. >> i would assume they spoke irregularly towards the end because the president was campaigning and he had a very packed schedule. once again i don't know. i can tell you i didn't speak for the president for a long time in between that point and the transition. i find the release of this indictment today as very selective and i think it's somewhat inappropriate considering that the president will be meeting with vladimir putin on monday, and it goes to an argument that people on both sides of the aisle have about these special counsels really affecting foreign policy. >> i'm curious, though, as to why the russians came out -- to your point, sam, they came out

today and it was to quote, spoil the atmosphere before the summit. but if you're the president of the united states and now you're up to 191 charges most of them against russians, wouldn't you want to know about before you meet vladimir putin? isn't that information that would help him before the summit? >> well, i think he could have been briefed on this. and when rosenstein briefed the white house, the white house was put in an uneasy situation because how could they possibly tell rosenstein we'd like you to delay this until after the president meet with putin? with that said, the president i think would be very well served for himself if he confronts putin on this publicly in the conference after the meeting like macron did. putin remember -- i mean, national security advisor bolton said when he met with putin said putin admitted it wasn't the russian government. erin, he does have other

critical issues to talk about, north korea, syria, iran. >> he does, right? if he would just come out and say russia did this, which would be pretty easy to say because it would mimic what every intelligence chief he has has already said. i guess the other question is when you have this indictment, you and i are talking about, okay, it's pretty clear they're referring to roger stone. why do you think mueller went into the it detail he did? mentioning stone's contacts with guccifer, is he doing it in the indictment to put pressure on stone or someone around him to flip? what do you think the reason is? >> well, i think that he -- i think roger is a target of the investigation, and he's a critical piece in the narrative that special counsel mueller has to build in order to impeach the president. i think today this indictment really shows why the mid-terms

are going to be critical. because if nancy pelosi has a one-seat majority u substantial evidence like this, building a conspiracy, not direct, circumstance substantial evidence is going to be good enough for a democrat to impeach a sitting president and then send it to the senate which would bog down president trump in the second half of his first term. that's why i think the mid-terms are going to decide the president's course of his first term here. >> you're careful, sam, to say you believe it's him but you're not being nasty to him. he referred to you a psycho and a lying a-hole. okay, you obviously are not speaking about him in that way tonight. when's the last time you spoke to roger stone and what's your relationship with him now? >> i spoke to roger on the phone

it would be the saturday -- remember we did our interview that sunday -- >> the saturday after? >> the saturday before my grand jury appearance the following friday. and i had an e-mail exchange telling him i liked his book and also i gave a quote and he said thank you for this, for the quote. but look, i think he was also insulted because i can't talk to him for his own benefit. you see manafort's in jail? that's the way i will talk to roger. i understand he's under a lot of stress. i don't take these things personally when people attack me because i throw it out, too. if i'm going to take it personally coming from a guy like me who throws this stuff out, too, it'd be a little hypocritical. >> so sam, roger is going to do

an interview tonight on this network. do you have a message for him? >> continue to please listen to your attorneys and i think at the end he'll be vindicated. but stay strong. >> all right, well, sam, thank you very much. good to have you back. all right, next, john mccain calling on trump to cancel his meeting with putin unless he's ready to hold him accountable. okay, is trump going to do it? plus, why is president trump apologizing for something that he then made very clear that he said he did not do? introducing e*trade personalized investments professionally managed portfolios customized to help meet your financial goals. you'll know what you're invested in and how it's performing. so you can spend more time floating about on your inflatable swan. [ding]

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handing with vladimir putin on the heels of these indictments would be an insult to our democracy. and jeff, the white house says forget it, we are going ahead. the president is even making jokes about russian meddling today, right? >> erin, what else officials aren't telling us tonight they have no plans of canceling this summit and that was no surprise. but was a surprise was that press conference the president held today with prime minister theresa may. he already knew at that point that the indictments were coming down. we, of course, did not but he was briefed earlier in the week by the deputy attorney general about these specific indictments. so with that in mind listen to what the president said about election meddling here today in the u.k. >> i know you'll ask will we be talking about meddling, and i will absolutely bring that up. i don't think you'll have any, gee, i did it, i did it, you got

me. there won't be a perry mason here, i don't think. but you never know what happens here. but i will absolutely firmly ask the question. >> and erin, at that point it's not about the president asking vladimir putin if he did meddle in the election. that is a fact that's been stipulated to by u.s. intelligence agencies by people on both sides virtually except the white house. so there's a question what is he going to do about it or hold him accountability about it. vladimir putin is getting more out of this than the president is because he is getting the world stage with president trump there in helsinki. but leaders of both parties as you said are criticizing the president. the question is will it change the itinerary at all. will the president go ahead without aides in the room. the white house has not said that. but the president going monday

to helsinki. >> it's just him and putin and translators and no other staff. now let's bring in our global affairs analyst and our contributor norm eisen. this meeting between trump and putin, obviously you hear criticism. should it go ahead? >> it should not. it's as if your neighbor came over, robbed your house, burned it down and then the next day you go have a meal with him at the diner. these are very serious charges backed by overwhelming evidence today on top of much that has come before, as you've noted, over 130 charges. 35 people or companies indicted, 5 guilty pleas. we know russia attacked our democracy, and the president

should confront vladimir putin at a time and place of his choosing. this should be called off. >> susan, you know, we have 191 charges now in this investigation. and a president who thus far publicly has only called it a witch hunt, questioned whether russia did it or whether it was a 400-pound fat guy or said it could have been anybody. is that going to suddenly change? >> he repeated this was a rigged witch hunt earlier today in that press conference and remember this is as brazen as it gets from president trump because he already knew about these indictments. he had been briefed by the justice department before he left for that trip to europe. in that answer we already know the demands to cancel the summit. why would he cancel the summit based on new information

actually information he already had? i think it's important for people to remember that this summit was called by donald trump. he actually invited president putin to have this meeting back in march in that famous do not congratulate phone call. again, there's always been a mistcry to it. what is the summit supposed to be about? even today in that long rambling answer at his press conference president trump couldn't say. he mentioned nuclear arms control, in an offhand way syria, iran. it's not clear. and i feel like bob mueller just gave us an agend raw fa for thet meeting. whether president trump will do anything with it or not is the question. >> certainly 191 charges, 32 people, we've got an agenda. not that he needed more of them today in order to get there. but to susan's point, you got it.

i want to play a little bit more of what he said to give people a look at how the response was. here he is. >> we will, of course, ask your favorite question about meddling. i will be asking that question again. he may deny it. it's one of those things. all i can say is did you and don't do it again, but he may deny it. you will be the first to know. >> i said today that was obviously the nato summit the other day. it was this week but not post the charges. all i can say is did you and don't do it again. i that how a president of the united states would bring this up with vladimir putin? >> absolutely not, erin. and it's very important to note the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein, briefed the president before he went to the nato summit. so when he did that in the offhanded way he was already on notice that this was coming. look, if he insists a normal

president would cancel this summit if this came out. if the president insists ongoing, he needs to do more than in his flippant offhand way say, well, i'll ask him and not get a perry mason moment. the demand is important. he needs it say we have sanctions, there are going to be more sanctions. he needs to put some teeth into this. the truth of the matter is particularly with nobody there except the translator he's probably going to give putin a wink and say like he did in those press conferences, gee, my mom made meb bring this up, please don't do it anymore. it's not a time for questions. it's a time for consequences. >> susan, to this point, right, in november when he had talked to putin he told reporters and i quote, every time he sees me, trump is referring to putin

here, i didn't do that. and i believe. i really believe when he tells me that he means it. that in itself is a stunning thing. this is what has happened when he's quote-unquote brought it up before. an attack on this country's democracy. >> it seems to me what's so extraordinary about this summit and about the utter lack of a meaningful national security process in the trump administration. so this summit as i said before it's about nothing. it was conceived and executed in the space of a couple of weeks. they only set the date for this a couple of weeks ago. normally a summit like this would be take months or even years to prepare. there would be policy deliverables, an entire infrastructure of our government figuring what it is we're hoping to get out of this meeting. instead the president has chosen to do something that no other president to do.

so then to talk about any other president would cancel this meeting, no other president in the history of the united states would have a meeting like this with president putin under these circumstances. so the idea that president trump is going to get in a verbal sparring match with putin, you know, what's the point of that? >> i mean, it's pretty stunning when you think about kim jong-un, you've got the concept of the summit. but with putin a person the president can talk to on the phone, there's a lot of opportunities to talk to putin that don't require the quote-unquote summit treatment. thank you very much, appreciate it. and next it's something we rarely hear from president trump. he has said this himself, the fact we never hear it. it is so rare, and today we actually heard an apology. i mean, sort of. >> she's a total professional because when i saw her this morning i said i want to apologize becau apologize -- plus it is the royal pomp

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tonight president trump says sorry, sort of, right? i guess when it comes to sorry some things are relative. here he is doing damage control after some pretty intense criticism of the british prime minister theresa may. >> she's a total professional because when i saw her this morning i said i want to apologize because i said such good things about you. she said don't worry, it's only the press. >> okay, let's just again facts always matter here. the reason this all happened here is because he did an interview which was on tape and in that he himself slammed the prime minister to the roup rt murdoch newspaper. so let's play the tape. >> she didn't listen to me. i think the deal that she's striking is not what the people voted on. it's a much different deal than

the people voted on. it was not the deal that was in the referendum. >> out front now democratic strategist and host of the ben fergson show. maria, was this a full and sincere apology? >> of course not, erin. donald trump doesn't know the meaning of those words. this was more like deme lavato's sorry not sorry apology. first he lied about criticizing her and then apologized apparently for the suns not including what apparently he said glowing things about her and not including those of the interview. so the whole thing was just very bizarre, very trump-like, but incredibly embarrassing for americans and incredibly disrespectful, which was exactly what trump -- how he has been treating all of our closest allies. and it puts us i think in a much

less safe place to be globally. >> i mean i will say on some level here there is some deep irony to fact it is rupert murdock. >> the president woke up, saw her in the morning, walked up to her and said i want to apologize. that first off is clearly an apology. he also said they did not report on the kind things that he said about her as a leader. and what the president said on the tape that you played a moment ago is accurate based on what the people in the u.k. and what they wanted in britain. i mean, when they were talking ability brexit, when they were talking about the deal -- >> i understand the point you're making, but an apology would be i'm sorry for what i said. instead he said don't worry, you

know, i said such good things about you and blames it on -- it on fake news. >> if i walk up to you in the morning and say i want to apologize to you, and i said some great things about you in that article that they didn't publish, and i want to apologize to you, that is an apology. i don't understand why everyone criticizes the president saying he doesn't apologize enough, that he isn't humble enough. he comes out in a press conference in front of the world and said i saw her this morning and one of the first things i told her is i want to apologize. people then say this is not an apology when he uses the actual word "apologize." >> he did use the word apology. he also called it fake news. but does he have a point that he says the first thing i said was an apology? >> sure, he has a point in that the trump has hardly, i think this might be the second time after he was forced the first

time to make a public apology on tape when the infamous tape came out. and then this time he said the word "apology" which yes, he will give him credit for. >> so give him credit for it. >> hang on. i give him credit for actually saying the words and the syllables, if you want me to do that, ben, but it wasn't a real apologize. >> i don't understand. >> but here i think is the more important point. let's get beyond the actual words. he should not be -- >> what is the more important point. i want to know. >> the more important point is what he did dur "the sun" interview was a stunning diplomatic and protocol affront to one of our closest allies. he should not have said those things before he even had met with the prime minister. he put himself and the united states of america in an incredibly difficult, embarrassing position which just underscores how unfit he is as a

leader. >> it's america, when the president of the united states of america is asked a question -- hold on, this is important. >> i know we have a bit of delay, but i want to make a point. when he says "fake news" or he couches it. one of the issue shears the "access hollywood" tape. there was another time he apologized. there were two times he apologized about that tape, ben. i want to play them for you. >> sure. >> sheer president trump. >> anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it, i was wrong and i apologize. >> i apologize to my family. i apologize to the american people. certainly i'm not proud of it. but this is locker room talk. >> now, he said those things, ben. but the day after he first apologized he came out and said, quote, bill clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course, not even close. i apologize if anyone was offended. when you say you're sorry, just say you're sorry. why do you have to add in bill

clinton is worse business which is the most offensive apology you could give? >> again, i think donald trump -- these are two completely separate issues for me. one of them something that was clearly incredibly embarrassing for him and could very well have ended his presidential campaign, and he was trying to do damage control. >> should have. >> i criticized him on that tape. he apologized for that. the american people clearly forgave him because they elected him. i'll go back to the issue with theresa may. there have r so many people who criticize him saying he is a terrible diplomat. he clearly realized when he said the first thing i want to do is apologize. we should give him some credit for doing that and not criticize him for apologizing. that's my point. >> so lame. >> i'm going to give you the last word because maria had the first. thank you. and next, the president's royal fixation. >> i said this the other day. i said lady di had supermodel beauty.

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president trump appeared to break royal protocol today. he met with the queen. and trump, of course, who has long been fascinated with the royals, for him today was one for the history books. jason carroll is "outfront." >> reporter: it has been said members of the royal family are above party politics, but it's clear her majesty the queen is not above moving a politician along. queen elizabeth ushered president trump with a slight of hand to inspect the cold stream

guards at windsor castle and twitter didn't miss a step saying it's not difficult, just walk along the line looking pleased. trump has been fascinated with the royals for some time. in 1981, he reportedly fanned a rumor prince charles and his then new bride princess diana planned to buy a multimillion-dollar condo in trump tower. in his book, "art of the deal," trump said a reporter wanted details about the potential sale. trump responded saying he could not confirm or deny it. years later, in 1994, trump reportedly helps spread a similar resume they're prince charles and diana had simply joined as charter members at his then new mar-a-lago club in florida. a palace spokesman at the time called it complete nonsense. and then there were the personal comments trump made about diana in one of his books. he wrote his only regret in the women department was that he never had the opportunity to court lady diana spencer.

"the boston globe" reports princess diana thought trump was creepy. shortly after her death in what was at times an off-color interview with howard stern, trump praised diana for her look. >> i said lady di had supermodel beauty. >> reporter: in 2012 many came to kate middleton's defense after paparazzi caught the duchess topless bathing in france. instead trump said she had only herself to blame. who the wouldn't take kate's picture and make lots of money if she does the nude sunbathing thing? perhaps no surprise trump did not meet with the duke and duchess, nor meghan markle, the duchess of sussex and her new husband harry. in 2015 she made her opinions about trump well-known. >> with misogynistic as trump is and so vocal about it. >> right. >> trump has made it easy to see that you don't really want that kind of world that he is painting. >> reporter: and while there are

protests in the streets and blown up balloons of the president floating around london, the queen presented a royal display of diplomacy with all the pomp and circumstance. jason carroll, cnn, new york. >> i don't know what it is about that bizarre blimp. all right. thank you all so much more joining us. have a safe weekend. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. when president trump meets vladimir putin in finland on monday, he'll be more prepared than ever, armed with more evidence than ever to confront him over russia's attack on 2016 presidential election, if he chooses to, which keeping him honest, is a very big if. today robert mueller's grand jury handed up indictments that for the very first time directly connect 2016 campaign interference to the kremlin itself. and the response so far from the white house, it doesn't mention the attack. it doesn't mention the kremlin. it does not mention vladimir putin. it does not mention the russians at all, in fact. al