was only a few dozen yards from the shore. it sank to about 40 feet and then slid to 80 feet. they hope to bring it up by monday. >> what an awful, awful story. our deepest condolences to families. erin burnett yac's "outfron starts right now. michael cohen's secret recording of president trump. it's in the fbi's hands. how many more tapes does he have. plus they want to talk to kristen davis. what's her connection to roger stone. and what does putin have on stone? it's a question that more and more people are asking. let's go out. good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a secret trump tape. tonight i can tell you there is a tape. the president's former lawyer michael cohen recording a conversation he had with donald

trump about paying off "playboy" model, a "playboy" model who says she had an affair with donald trump. according to the president's current attorney rudy giuliani, on the tape cohen and trump discuss buying the rights to "playboy" model karen mcdougal's story. first team trump lied. they deny ever knowing that they ever paid. they said, we have no knowledge of any of this and she also said mcdougal's claim of an fair with trump is untrue. for this part president trump has remained uncharacteristically silent about his relationship with mcdougal. >> thank you very much. >> are you lying about the

affair? >> is karen mcdougal telling the truth? >> maybe he didn't want to lie directly to the cameras on that one, but mcdougal did speak out to the camera at length. >> there were real feelings between the two of us. not just myself, not just him. there was a real relationship there. i kind of out of sight, out of mind with everything else. deep inside, i did have a lot of guilt, but i still continued. >> this all happened, of course, around the same time cohen was paying off stormy daniels about her alleged one-night stand with trump, a story trump also appears to have lied about. remember when he said this a few months ago about that hush payment. >> mr. trump, did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy danielss? >> no, no. >> why did michael cohen -- >> you'd have to ask michael cohen. michael's my attorney, and

you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he go the money to make that payment? >> i don't know. no. >> no, no, no. until giuliani said the president did know because he repaid that payoff. >> funnels through the law firm and the president repaid it. oh, i didn't know -- he did. >> yeah. >> just to be clear, not only did the president repay it. "the new york times" reports, citing two sources, that trump knew about the repayment well before he lied about it on "air force one," and tonight cnn is learning that michael chone has more tapes of donald trump and evan has more. more tapes. that's got be the last thing team trump wants to hear. >> you would imagine so, erin. the idea that michael cohen had this habit of reporting conversations with prominent important people, that's what

we're hearing from rudy giuliani and other sources who have been briefing on these recordings, which are now in the handing of the investigators. the question there is who are the people on those tapes, what type of information was being discussed. could that be something that would be embarrassing or cause legal problems for those people. it does appear that michael cohen's investigation that's being done by the federal prosecutors in management could end up widening because of this. >> so, i mean, there's a point you make, evan. what more do we know about this specific recording between cohen and trump about the "playboy" model karen mcdougal? >> right. so this recording was made in september of 2015. a month earlier she signed an agreement for the rights to her

story about the alleged affair with donald trump. now, according to people we've talked to, this meeting -- this recording rather is under two minutes. that's what a source told us. what does this mean for the investigation? what does it mean for the president? people close to the president including rudy giuliani says this is no big deal. it needs going to be a problem for the president, but others who we talked to say there is an issue here for the president and for his legal team to take care of. obviously we know that michael cohen has been sending signals that he wants to cooperate with prosecutors and the fbi. we heard today that he met with the reverend al sharpton to talk, i guess have a one and half hour session. apparently that's another sign that michael cohen is sending out there that he wants to make a deal perhaps with prosecutors. we do not know at this point,

erin, whether prosecutors want him to provide any information or whether they want to charge him. >> thank you very much, evan perez. it seems whoever puts it out there, if you wanted to do a deal with him, you could do that without playing fitter the media. that's a big question. harry sandik in new york where the investigation is in full swing and april ryan. harry, you're with me. according to trump's own lawyer, this is not the only recording, okay? >> yeah. >> they're admitting obviously because they think we're going to find out at some point. how damaging could this tape be, this one about karen mcdougal? it's short, but we know it's about something they said -- team trump said they knew nothing about and obviously he did. >> yeah. with every inconsistency, it would become harder for trump and his team to defend against

any claim. on the substance it sounds like this is some sort of a reimbursement that's being said, that essentially ami was an intermediary, making a payment to mcdougal with the knowledge that trump was going to reimburse him to kill the story and she was going to sell it to become famous. >> so the "national enquirer." a parent company, owned by the trumps, it appears they were working together, not a surprise, but discussing it as opposed to just implicitly doing it. they're saying, look, it's not a legal problem for the president, but it sounds like a spin. >> i think it might be a problem for the president.

whether or note it's a payment violation or a payoff that's a loan to the campaign and from that perspective, the timing of these alleged payoffs makes sense. the closer it is to the election the more it affects the election and, of course, the content in the phone call is what matters. the phone call which is record and in government possession, if the phone call between donald trump and michael cohen reveals there was a payment made for a particular purpose, that would be very relevant. >> i mean, april, you know, when he was told about the tape, according to a source, he said, quote, i can't believe michael would do this to me. there's been reporting. i'm not sure what the president really thought of cohen. and even if the president, you know, looked yesterday, he

tweeted something nasty about the media as he is oft to do. michael cohen took the other side, trolling the president on twitter saying freedom of the press is not just important to democracy. it is democracy. that's what he responded to walter krcronkite. "the wall street journal" reported recently, april, that in 2009 -- cohen's working for trump -- trump tried to push him out and cut his salary in half. if someone tries to cut your salary in half, you know what they think of you. why is trump surprised that cohen was keeping tapes of anything that could make him look bad? >> i don't know why president trump is acting surprised. michael chone tried to throw him under the bus a couple of times. people tend to gravitate and stay around power. even though he may have cut his

salary, he was still many the inner circle and introducing him, things of that nature. going back to what you talked about, i talked with elijah coming, the democratic leader of the government oversight reform committee and he said the fbi has more tapes than we know and trump knows and the president feels like he's backed up against the wall, an not only that he's expecting more indictments, and what he's saying about michael cohen, what he is doing now is throwing a bunch of wet spaghetti noodles up against the wall to see what sticks. michael cohen is done, through, trying to cooperate. the president is in trouble and he needs to look at it as such. >> harry, according to giuliani, trump's attorney, trump didn't know he was being recorded. i can't believe that's true. i remember a conversation i had with trump because we were talking about the enter national

bank of china. i said, don't you think someone's recording you. he said, i'm in new york, erin. i assume everyone is recording him. do you believe him he didn't have any idea or he just trusted cohen so blindly? >> i think he trusted cohen. i think also lawyers don't generally tape record their clients. i've never heard of it. it's a very unusual thing to do. >> is it unethical? >> it may be unethical. you're not supposed to be gathering tapes of your client to protect yourself or hold him hostage or something. dealership want to paint the president as a victim here. it doesn't sound like that. but on the question of do you expect your lawyer is taping you, no, we should. expect that. >> carrie, what do you think? is it wrong or unethical that

cohen did it? >> i don't know of any reputable lawyers that would do that and i think probably the new york bar has guidance regarding the duties of lawyers and whether or not it's ethical to record clients. it's not normal practice. not that -- bar rules are something that's at the top of his list of concerns, but i wouldn't be surprised if the new york bar looked at it. it's not normal practice. it might be one of the reasons, i think, perhaps that donald trump relied on michael cohen so much for a variety of dealings was because he thought that using a lawyer -- sometimes people use a lawyer because then they feel like it's more protected. >> right. it's like he does think people are recording. donald trump knows full well. in new york state only one person has to want to record. cohen would have been the person that may have been able to pull the wool over his eyes.

look. the tape may prove a lie, but as carrie points out and harry points out, it's unclear what it might eventually mean. is it possible the president would rather this be out than let's say the summit with putin being discussed? >> you know, yeah, when it comes to putin, that's a very deep -- according to cummings again, that's a very deep national security issue he's very concerned about, and, of course, they want to take that off the table, but rudy giuliani is clearly trying to put something else on the table to try to distract. but at the same time, he wants this to play out in the court of public pittsburgh. this may not play out as well as you think. there's too much going on. in the last week, you have zero tolerance, separation of children from their parents, whether it's mexico or whatever, zero tolerance. then you had the putin press conference that was hell on wheels for some. and now this. it's too much too fast.

and republicans are turning their nose and putting their head down. it's in your face. it's a lot going on and it's all involving the president. >> thanks very much. and bob mueller, tonight we learn he wants to talk to the manhattan madam. why? plus, trump's bizarre behavior when it comes to putin. the question is being asked more and more, does putin have something on trump? plus lex rhea ocasio-cortez about to take the stage with bernie sanders. are you taking the tissue test?

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get more out of your water. get zerowater. breaking news, robert mueller wants to talk to the madam. davis went to jail as part of the prostitution scandal involving the former new york governor eliot spitzer and she also worked for longtime associate roger stone who also happens to be the godfather to her son. kara ska neleh is outfront. what else do you know about this? >> reporter: that's right, erin. you really can't make this up. we know robert mueller has reached out to kristen davis known as the manhattan adam. now, davis has worked for stone for years. they're very close. he is the godfather to her son,

but her lawyer says that she has not been subpoenaed by robert mueller, but he did tell me -- this is daniel hawk hiser, her attorney, if the special attorney appeals her, he will be representing her in that. he also declined any conversations he had with the special office. they also declined to comment. davis's spokeswoman gave us a statement in which she explained the extent of the relationship with roger stone shchl e said christian davis and roger stone are very good friends and she's worked off and on with him for the last ten years. roger is her son's godfather. she works kurnlly in the cosmetology business and knows nothing about the 2016 election. we also have a statement from roger stone's lawyer and here's what he told us. he said if the purpose of the

special counsel investigation is russian involvement in the election through collusion, roger is certain miss davis would have no knowledge of russian collusion in the 2016 election. roger conclude this is a continuous harassment about his friends to find something that does not exist. roger stone has not been accused of any wrongdoing, but it's another twist in this tale we did not see coming today, erin. >> no, we didn't. thank you very much. roger stone admits he is likely -- as we said, almost certainly the unnamed american in the most recent mueller indictment of 12 russians. yac "outfront" now, richard blumenthal. they want to talk to kristen davis, the manhattan madam. why do you think he wants to talk to her? >> anything related to roger

stone is of interest to the special counsel. remember he was all but named in the indictment just last friday of 12 russian opera tissues, spies. they are working at the direction of vladimir putin almost certainly, and roger stoerngs although unidentified has acknowledged that he is one of the people who is named in that indictment. so very serious stuff involved roger stone. he's been a reappearing character, if you will. and anybody tied to roger stone is likely to be of interest. >> so kristen davis did clerical website work for stone as we understand it for the past decade ads you just heard kara reporting. are the walls closing in on roger stone? it seems like from the indictment they've laid it out. goose fehr 2.0, is cetera, et cetera. it seems to me they're still

asking questions and may need more. >> roger stone may be an unwitting dupe involving gus i fehr 2.0. >> he may not know he was russian. >> he may be, may not be, in a shakespearean sense, he may appear on stage as a clown or one of the nefarious villains of this sort. one thng is for sure, and that is robert mueller is ahead of all of us in terms of what he knows, and he is not the source of this story. he's proceeding methodically and secretly. >> he hasn't leaked. so it's coming from somewhere else, somebody who thinks it's in their interest to be out there now rather than later. we have learned the fbi has a tape recording between trump and his former attorney michael cohen talking an payment to a former "playboy" model. osks, this would prove the white

house saying there was no such payment was not true. how significant could this tape be, do you think? >> the tape could be highly significant if they're talking about actions that could cons stutd a crime or some violation of elections. >> election law. millimeter. >> or also if it's found there are other tapes as i would bet there are. >> we understand there are. rudy giuliani is indicating there are. do you think that could be the bigger issue? >> the tapes made by michael cohen could be a gold mine for prosecutors because they're trump's own voice, and that is the most powerful evidence, even if it's yes or no on the telephone. it is houle potentially uncle pa torrey, highly guilt-proving, and could be very, very significant. again, the special prosecutor is going to really pursue every piece of evidence. >> a source telling us tonight

trump's legal team is worried, that it could strengthen bob mueller's hand. how could that be the case? >> as dangerous as that helsinki meeting was, even more so is the prospect of putin coming to washington, d.c. if anything, putin should be indicted, not invited. and the reason why these meetings are highly dangerous is, to state the obvious, first of all, as we know from that indictment of last friday, the special counsel has proof beyond a reasonable doubt that russian operatives interfered in our election, and it could not have been done without putin being involved. and so for donald trump to be meeting in private for two hours with this criminal when the purpose of the criminal activity was to help in the election, i think, really, is very, very dangerous. plus, he basically made a mess of it. >> let's talk about that.

it was 2, 2 1/2 hours. we don't know what happened in there. the national intelligence director, the top intelligence aide for the united states, dan coats, says he has no idea what happened in there. i have to play exactly what he did say. he has no clue. >> i don't know what happened in that meeting. i think as time goes by and the president has already mentioned some things that happened in that meeting, i think we will learn more, but that is the president's prerogative. if he had asked me how that ought to be conducted, i would have suggested a different way. but that's not my role. that's not my job. soet is what it is. >> and, senator, on top of this, a source tells us that coats' office and white house spoke. they did speak 45 minutes before that. and in that conversation, nobody told him that trump had invited putin to washington. nobody tells the top

intelligence aide to the president of the united states. if you're coats, should he step down or not? >> i would hope that he does not. i've known dan coats for a while. he was a colleague of mine in the senate. we disagreed about politics and a bun p of other things, but he is a man of integrity and he will fulfill his oath of office. remember, erin, that moment when the president stood in front of those stars at the cia. >> cia, yes. >> each of those anonymous individuals gave his or her life in intelligence operations for this country for t. for the president of the united states to miss direct his officers is not only against the oektz of office but a profound disservice. these men and women lay their lives on the line and take risks every day. what he did to dan coats was so

profoundly humiliating, it reflects on the entire intelligence operation. donald trump likes to operate without intelligence. to go in that meeting and plan another meeting without telling dan coats is really beyond strained. >> but you want him to stay. thank you very much, senator blumenthal. appreciate your time. next, what started out as a whisper is now loud and clear. does putin have something on the president of the united states? a republican congressman of the united states says putin is manipulating donald trump. he never thought he'd say it. plus a horrific boating accident. 17 people have died including nine from one family. cream. otezla is a it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable

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secretary of state mike pompeii your firing back. >> i think those allegations are absurd. this administration has been relentless in its efforts to deter russia from its bad behavior. >> now, those allegations started as whispers, and, right, they started on the dem kratdic side, but now, not anymore, right? they're everywhere. >> more and more i've come to the conclusion that after the helsinki performance and sense that i really do wonder whether the russians have something on him. >> the way he behaves, there is a clear signal that the russians

have something on him. >> it seems to me the russians must have something. what else is there? >> that's the question a lot of people are asked. u want to bring in now bob baer and max. max, it's just a small sample of former officials, right? in clappers' case, he served under democrats and republicans. charlie confident was an elected republican. pompeo said everything they're saying is absurd, but they're all saying the same thing. >> yeah. it's not an sufrmd what's absurd is pompeo was trying to bat this question away, which was raised by trump's on seek kweeous behavior which is hard to explain unless there's a nefarious relationship. that's why they're saying there's something going on. >> it's not any more on seek was

than it was with kim. >> he attacked little rocket man. he's never attacked putin. some say he doesn't want to cast doubt on the legitimacy of his election. let's remember he was fawning toward putin long before he was elected. this is a pattern that goes back for decades. if you look back, even assume hi doesn't care about the national interest, he's only worried about his own self-interest, at this point it's important to be tough on putin bus he wants to dispel the notion he's colluding with putin. he can't bring himself to do it even though it's in his interest to do so. >> obviously the president said there's no connection. you heard mike pompeo. i'm not going to go back in history. oom going to go back to this week. here's the president this week. >> i think we're doing really

well with russia as of today. i thought we were doing horribly before today. >> a good competitor he is, and i think the word "competitor" is a compliment. i hold both countries responsible. i think that the united states has been foolish. i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. i have great confidence in my intelligence people, but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. >> this is what is hurting the president this week, julia, right? this is what is causing these former intelligence officials to say, okay, i'm actually willing to come out and say it. does putin have something? >> well, right. something doesn't quite add up, right? i think max is right in that trump has been very flattering of putin for a long time, i think in part because he kept

trying to build something in russia. i also think he's very comfortable with autocrats and dictators because he kind of would love to rule in the same way. remember what he said about kim jong-un, that when he talks, his people sit up and listen. i think that's what he wants as well. i think that's definitely true for putin. as of the what happened in 2016, i think trump knows, as we all know, that putin, a, wanted him to win. putin said so. he helped him to win. we know this from all of the reporting, all of the int intelligence reports, all of the investigations going on. and for somebody as vain and, frankly, narcissistic as trump, he seas, you know what? you're right. my victory was illegitimate, and, there, my presidency is illegitimate. no president would say that.

i think he's more likely o double down and resist. >> bob? >> you know,'ve got to go back in history, erin. >> first off, his connections with the russians in 1986 and 1987 were suspect the moment they occurred. he goes to moscow in july of 1987. he comes back with what is essentially kgb talking points, in which he takes out full page advertisements and then on the 22nd of october he starts musing about the presidency. but what i hear from the russians is the trip was sponsored by the kgb. i'm not sure he heard that. but as you heard from my ex-colleague, he was manipulated by the colleagues. you didn't have to say.

then you fast forward to the '90s where he's going into business with russian, bay rock, kgb-connected organization, toronto, and the rest of it, and you understand that the russians carry the note on trump. he has a conflict of interest. he's manipulated. he doesn't need a russian -- go ahead. >> no. you're saying he doesn't need the kgb to announce who they were. to your point, it's how well he heard it. it's an important op-ed he wrote today. max, i'm curious, though, just to make sure we're clear here. when you talk about being nice to russia, other presidents have tried. they're all sort of narcissists and have all thought it and tried it. president obama ridiculed him, remember? president obama was the sitting

president and he pooped all over it and here's the exchange. >> a few months ago when you asked what's the biggest geopolitical event facing us and you said russia. notal kai da. you said russia. the cold war has been over for 24 years. >> i have clear eyes on this. i'm not going to wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to trump or putin. >> are we judging him by another standard? >> no. i remember that. that was a killer line. in the past you certainly had disagreements with candidates about u how tough on it. people were naive with putin. for example both bush and obama tried to reset relations with russia when they came into office, but you never, ever, erin, have seen bash like this with the u.s. president standing next to putin and says he takes

his word over the u.s. intelligence service or going into a two-hour private meeting? we're calling putin a fine person? he is not a fine person. he's a thug and a kimmer and previous presidents have not been afraid to say sew. you don't have to be utterly sur vial and sub missish the way trump is. this is not the way any previous president has reacted. >> thank you very much. some thoughtful things there. thank you. and next, how did the white house leash the nation's top intelligence chief in the dark about a second trump/putin meeting? so we have just learned that the white house spoke to coats moments before he went on stainless. it wasn't as if they didn't talk. they talked right before. they did not tell him. and they put it out on twitter when they knew he was on stage. alexandria ocasio-cortez live at this hour.

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tonight a scathing allegation from a republican congressman. yo heard the panel just mention it. the headline is putin is manipulating the president of the united states. the person who report thad is will hurd from texas. he wrote in "the new york times," over the course of my career as an undercover officer and cia, i saw russians manipulate people. i never thought the president would be one of them. they both have been intimately involved in the investigation that went on there into russian meddling in the election. congressman, do you agree with your colleague, mr. hurd? >> well, i think what's important here -- and i don't agree -- is i think the american public is certainly

disappointed. as you spoke, there were certainly time wes were disappointed in obama's performance after he met with medvedev in russia. he came outafterward saying tell vlad basically we can strike a better deal. 'll have greater flex bltd are the words he used. yeah. so it's an issue of what we expect as americans, especially at a time when the department of justice had just indicted several russians and the russian government for meddling in our elections. we have the nerve agent attack in london. we have still the occupation in ukraine, that president trump needed to stand kroubd. he did not, and that's incredibly disappointing. >> but you say you don't disagree with manipulating. they're all saying after helsinki, they're now wondering does putin have anything on the president. you think they go too far and you think will hurd goes too far

when he says putin is manipulating trump. >> right. i think it's an exaggeration. i think it's very consistent with what we've seen in this administration in the consistency and the response and reaction. we saw it certainly with prime minister may in the uk where at one point he's criticizing her over the eu and the next point he's embracing what she's doing. so i think certainly there's a degree of inexperience. but the more important thing i think, which gives us a warning of the upcoming announcement of the upcoming summit is there was no real plan for this summit. we had no real idea what the president's goals were, what the united states was trying to achieve. so coming out of that, i think we were all kind of shocked with the demeanor the president had, but it largely comes from lack of planning, lack of goals, lack of strategy. hopefully we'll have a clear understanding of what is the subject matter, why are we doing, what does the prep hope

to achieve. >> let's be honest. the russians are leaking. they had an agenda. we don't have anything to counter it with because the president didn't let anyone else in the room and on the second meeting you're talking about, what people find so hard to understand, congressman, and i'm sure on some level you share this shock, that the director of national intelligence, his chief intelligence officer dan coats had no idea that the president invited putin to washington, right? i have to play this moment again because every time i hear it, i sort of am stunned. let me play it. >> we have some breaking news. the white house has announced on twitter that vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. >> say that again? >> you -- vladimir putin coming -- >> did i hear you? >> yeah, yeah. >> okay. >> yeah.

>> that's going to be special. congressman turner, we learned tonight coats spoke to the white house before the pachbl 45 minutes before. they did not tell him about this. i mean is this acceptable? >> right. and i think we all have criticism of hue this administration has used twitter, people being fired over twitter, as i recall. so i think this is not presidential to be making announcement loosic this over twig never that format anyway. nowing the director of national intelligence dust report to the president, not the other way around. i'm less concerned that he didn't get the memo than the treating of cabinet members. that's very embarrassing. my greater concern is there's not strategic work happening to plan the summit. you would think that all of his top cabinet members on national security issues would be pulled together to help formulate what's the strategy, what are the plans, the goals, before the

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in kansas. >> reporter: hitting the trail in deep red kansas with bernie sanders to boost a pair of progressive house candidates. >> wherever there is working class people, there is hope for the progressive movement. >> reporter: a month after her stunning primary win -- >> she's looking at herself on television right now. . >> reporter: -- alexandria ocasio cortez has gone from relative unknown to high wattage political phenomenon. >> please welcome alexandria ocasio cortez. ♪ >> reporter: making the late-night rounds. >> i want to confess that i did not know your name on monday. >> most people didn't. >> reporter: her shade of lipstick even selling out online after she name dropped it on twitter. but it hasn't all been smooth sailing. >> for me, what it really means is establishing a baseline level of economic and social dignity. >> reporter: struggling to answer policy questions -- >> you use the term, the

occupation of palestine. what did you mean by that? >> oh, um, i think what i meant is, like, the settlements that are increasing. >> reporter: shining a spotlight on her inexperience. >> i am not the expert on geopolitics on this issue. >> reporter: her calls to aboli abolish i.c.e. -- >> we talk about abolishing i.c.e. -- >> reporter: an idea that's divi divided. >> just when you think democrats couldn't move farther to the left, leading members of the democratic party including candidates for higher office are actually openly advocating the abolition of i.c.e. >> reporter: in advance of her expected a eed arrival in washi ocasio cortez is sending signals she'll continue to shake up the democratic establishment. >> even if you can carve out a

subportion, a sub caucus, even if you could carve out that, a smaller bloc, one that operates as a bloc, you can generate real power. >> reporter: that approach seems to be rubbing some democrats on the hill the wrong way. with one member telling "the hill" newspaper ocasio cortez is making enemies within the party. another warning meteors fizz out. all as democratic leaders downplay the significance of her win. >> they made a choice in one district. so let's not get yourself carried away as an expert on demographics. >> there are a lot of really exciting races with extremely similar dynamics as mine. it's not just one district. >> reporter: and whether that's true or not in large part depends on the success that she has in places like here in kansas, and other races where she's lending her support, will she be able to translate all the starpower she has into actual wins for progressive candidates? in addition, erin, of course, to the own fight she'll be facing when she arrives in washington. >> all right, thank you very much, sunlen live from that

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>> reporter: cell phone video capturing the moments before the amphibious tour boat carrying 31 people capsized on table rock lake near branson, missouri. >> oh, no. >> reporter: the duck boat struggling, fighting 60 mile per hour winds and massive waves before overturning after 7:00 p.m. thursday evening. a severe thunderstorm warning issued about a half an hour before the boat capsized. >> my understanding was that when the boat went in the water, it was calm. part way through coming back is when everything, when the waves picked up and then, obviously, swamped the boat. >> units. need a water rescue. will be north of the showboat. will be a duck that has capsized. we have approximately 30 individuals in the water. >> reporter: 17 people killed. authorities say the victims ranging in age from 1 to 70. and missouri's governor telling cnn that 11 members of one family were on the boat.

nine of them dying when it sank. >> you know, they're still somewhat in shock of the incident. trying to figure out all the things that happened in that tragic event, but it's tough. it was tough to go in it there and talk to them. and to see them in that position because all of us that have family members and children, you know, it's hard to imagine being in that situation. >> reporter: choppy waves began crashing against two duck boats in the missouri lake. kourtney parker was onboard the boat a few feet in front of one that sunk. she told cnn "my husband was holding our daughter and tried to get life jackets for them and jump off but then we got out of it and made it to the ramp and i turned around and watched the other boat nose dive and my heart officials say there were life jackets on the boat. it's unclear if anyone was wearing them. among those killed, the driver of the boats, bob williams. a second crew member, the boat's captain, among the 14 survivors. four of those 14 survivors, erin, will remain in the

hospital tonight. two children and two adults. this area of the ozarks being a popular tourist destination. the governor made a point today of saying that many of the victims of this tragedy were traveling here from out of state. you can see the waters of this lake calm behind me now but severe thunderstorms, again, in the forecast here in southeast missouri tonight, erin. >> horrible thing. kaylee, thank you. thanks to all of you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening tonight. an exclusive interview with the attorney for alleged russian spy maria butina. the attorney joins us. that's ahead. so is the latest on the mystery surrounding what happened behind closed doors when president trump met vladimir putin. it's a mystery because the white house won't tell us or tell you. in fact, we're getting more from russia than we are from washington. we begin, though, with the president's former personal attorney and longtime fixer, michael cohen. today, we learned he had made tapes of conversations with his client and others and federal authorities have those tapes. they were seized when the fbi ra