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i'm george howell. >> i'm natalie allen. "newsroom" starts right now. at 5:00 a.m. on the u.s. east coast, we start in northern california, a wildfire there continuing to burn out of control, destroying everything in its path and now we know claiming more lives. two children and their great grandmother were not able to escape the fire when it overtook their homes on thursday night. we understand the death toll now stands at five people who were killed. >> two people who died were fighting the fires. this is the carr fire it burned nearly 33,000 hectares, more than 80,000 acres, one of several fires in california. president trump declared an emergency in the state to allow more federal assistance. and you can see the scale of the fires from the sky. this, a view from an airplane, that's not clouds, that's smoke. and also this is from the top of a building in redding,
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california, a smoky orange sky as far as you can see. gives you an idea of what they're dealing with. high temperatures and aee raerr winds in the area are fueling the flames and doesn't seem to be able to stop anytime so. >> dan simon has been following the story and filed this report for us. >> reporter: we now have the first confirmed civilian deaths associated with this fire, 70-year-old melody bledsoe and her two great grandchildren, 5-year-old emily roberts and her brother 4-year-old james roberts. they were in a house and were unable to leave as the flames raced through their neighborhood. we're told by a family member that bledsoe called her husband at work to say that the fire was getting close and he needed to come back as soon as he could. that was the last anyone had ever heard from them. the family checked hospitals, they checked evacuation centers and late this afternoon they got word that the bodies had been
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recovered. in the meantime, you can see where we are, this is called the keswick estate subdivision. and if you look around, you can just see that nothing has left. whole neighborhoods have disappeared as a result of this fire and, unfortunately, in terms of the outlook over the next few days, things do not appear to be getting better. this fire is just 5% contained. and the weather remains hot. triple digit temperatures today and over the next several days. humidity is low. and then at night, the wind really gets going and so firefighters fear that there could be more destruction. dan simon, cnn, keswick, california. tens of thousands of people have already evacuated their homes. officials warned anyone in the area to leave while they still could, to help avoid putting themselves and firefighters in danger. >> it is important when people receive an evacuation notice that they are prepared and ready to have their belongings, their
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important paper, artifacts and belongings ready to go and then be set, have your car full of gas, have those medications ready, have that cell phone and cell phone charger ready with you, and then you receive that notification is to go. the worst thing that happens is people refuse to leave and then the fire is coming and then firefighters are placing themselves in harm's way, in danger, to do a rescue. we saw that happening in this fire, where a firefighter was going in, did a rescue, and the windows in the vehicle were literally blown out or all damaged and he was able to perform that rescue, but putting himself in harm's way. >> thousands of firefighters are working around the clock trying to contain this fire. a few seen here taking a break after fighting the fire. pull severe kamman drove through
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areas where firefighters saved some structures from destruction and has more. >> reporter: this is the road leading to small town west of redding. you see where the car fire came roaring through here, burning most everything in its path, but firefighters successfully had some great moments where they saved structures. you see off in the distance on top of the hill, everything else is burned, but that structure is still standing. and the landscape is just baron. look at the remnants of trees. they're just like burned up matchsticks now, pointing toward the sky. >> brian rice is president of california professional firefighters, he joins us via skype from santa cruz. thank you so much for joining us. we know this is a terrifically tense and troubling time for the
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people that you represent. thank you so much. i was reading something that you said about how intense these fires are, and we have some video that you provided that shows a structure going up in flames. and you can appreciate what these fires are bringing to this region. what is the latest that you can tell us as we look at this video? >> we know that the fire made a very strong and erratic push thursday night and then into friday. the pictures you're looking at were taken during that time period. you're seeing different things from accessing the area either behind the fire or ahead of the fire and then also, you know, some of the homes and the buildings, the standing fuels that are going and you'll see also in there you can see how much blowing embers and ash there is and what a problem that
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causes for spotting. i think a viewer can get a sense of the tremendous amount of heat that the firefighters are facing, not just the temperatures, the daytime temperatures in the redding area are in excess of 105 and closer to 110 degrees. and it -- that is taxing to the firefighters, let alone the heat that the fire generates and all that plays into the fire behavior. and i talked to many veteran firefighters in the wildland arena, and i heard almost verbatim from every one of them that the fire behavior that they witnessed and experienced on thursday evening into friday morning, they had never seen before. and these are men and women that have many, many years of experience and training under their belts. >> climate change is making an impact. i was reading here since 2012, there has not been a month without a wildfire burning in
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the state. and the governor has called this a new normal. so this is a completely different situation that anyone is trained for. i know we have more video that you have also supplied to us, show firefighters going down a highway, you see flames on both sides of the highway, so the question is, how do you sustain this? how do these brave men and women work in these conditions and, you know, we're looking at a huge swath of the state. these aren't just small pockets. >> no, no, they're not, natalie. in fact, there is two other fires in the mendocino area and lake county areas that have just sparked up today that are causing a lot of concern, but the video you're seeing, what you're -- those are highly trained men and women, the equipment that they have both the personal protective gear and the fire apparatus are -- it is all designed to accomplish one
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goal and that is to suppress the fire and protect our water shed and protect our citizens. and i can tell you that if you and i were caught out on that road that we're watching the firefighters working through, and it was you and i trying to escape, our chances of surviving would be very little. >> it is terrifying to think that there are actually people working in these conditions and driving through these conditions. in fact, i have a quote from the redding police chief that said this fire is scary to us, this is something we haven't seen before in the city. and i just have to say, our thoughts are with all of the people that are working in this situation. unprecedented times. and situations that no one could actually be prepared for, but they certainly are brave and i know the people there in california appreciate their work so much. brian rice, we thank you so much for your time and we hopefully will talk with you again and hopefully things will get better
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before they get worse. thank you. >> thank you, natalie. good night. just so many fires in california right now. and derek is here, may not get better before it gets worse. >> i can't get over the visuals and to hear that man talk about the firefighters being scared, to go out and battle these blazes -- >> never seen anything like this. >> never seen anything like this. >> unprecedented. >> unbelievable. i can't get over this. this is quite a story for us. and, you know, we're talking about this recipe for disaster. it is not going to get any better. weather conditions there are downright terrible. it is triple digit heat, gusty winds, especially on the ridge tops, the drought is intensifying there, and the rain forecast calls for, get this, nothing. that's not what we want to hear. that's unfortunately what we have to report on because that's the reality of the situation. this is the latest. we have 5% containment with the car fire, over 83,000 acres have been burned so far.
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the cranston fire and ferguson fire gained some ground overnight. that's good news. woo ert sta we're starting to notice containment numbers change. this is an image from an airplane, someone flew over, there was 30,000 foot plume of smoke from the carr fire in redding. you see it in space. there is the smoke across the sacramento valley. how are these fires spreading so quickly? we have what is called spot fires, the gusty erratic winds on tops of these hillsides, it pushes the embers several hundred feet in advance of the main fire and starts new fires ahead of it. then we have what is called firenados. ever heard of this? another term is a fire whirl or fire vortex. here is a video of it. you see it swirling. see how far it is throwing the embers in advance of the main flames. we have a lot of things happening here. basically air replacing the strong updraft from the intense
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heat that is created and it picks up the flames and creates almost a whirling effect, but it also spreads the embers and creates more spot fires. here is the outlook in terms of temperatures. triple digit heat for redding, zero chances of rain, the extreme heat continues over the entire western u.s. here is the erratic winds as well. gusting sometimes over 25 miles per hour today. and this ridge of high pressure in control of the weather, we're going to see unfortunately more scenes like this play out. i really hope that everybody listens to the evacuation orders and hats off to those firefighters battling this fire. >> that picture we had of them sleeping, right in front -- >> exhausted, right? what else can you do? they are working so hard. >> derek, thank you. another story we're following here, ten people were killed when a strong earthquake struck an indonesian island east of bali and not far from a volcano. as you can see in the video here, rescue teams are searching for survivors.
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local officials say a citizen of malaysia is among those killed. magnitude 6.4 earthquake caused significant damage. tourists and residents in bali say they felt the shaking. happy to report no tsunami advisories issued. the latest now on tropical storm to hit japan threatening areas hit by deadly flooding a few weeks ago. it was downgraded from typhoon status after it made landfall on thursday. >> still people have been ordered to get to a safe location because of concerns about landslides and river flooding. train services and flights were canceled as this storm approached. next here, long time trump confidant michael cohen made a clean break from his boss. we'll discuss why he's perhaps doing that and what risk it could pose to the president ahead here. in a delicate time for relations between russia and the west, russian president vladimir
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information. and that includes documents and witness interviews. >> that is important. in the meantime, the president is spending the weekend away from the white hot glare of washington. boris sanchez explains it all. >> reporter: this was supposed to be a positive week for the white house following the president's announcement on friday of strong economic numbers, symbolizing the growth of america's economy and his announcement of a recent trade deal struck with the european union. instead, the focus as it often has been is on the russia investigation and the president and his team's dramatic shift on his former attorney michael cohen, after reporting that cohen was preparing to tell robert mueller and other investigators that the president was aware of a meeting between his son and other campaign officials and russians promising dirt on hillary clinton at trump tower during july 2016. early on, after the fbi raided the apartment and office of
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michael cohen, the president and his legal team defended cohen. rudy giuliani calling him an honorable man. now, they are seeing a very different tune. listen to the two different sound bites from the president's attorney, rudy giuliani. >> he doesn't have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. i expected something like this from cohen. he's been lying all week or for two weeks, been lying for years. >> reporter: president trump himself tweeting on friday suggesting that cohen was making up stories in order to lessen the weight of the legal burden that he is facing, potentially in part because of his taxicab business. aides tell cnn that they have tried to pack president trump's schedule with travel, trying to get him to focus on the economy and not the steady drip of information coming from the russia investigation, but, of course, this has been a cloud hanging over the administration, one that president trump apparently is unable to avoid. boris sanchez, cnn, traveling with the president, near bedminster, new jersey. >> the drip of the investigations continues.
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thank you. the midterm elections here in the u.s. just three months away and the outcome could dramatically change the balance of power in congress and impact the trump presidency. >> there is growing concern russian hackers, yes, talking about that again, are targeting some campaigns in a renewed effort to disrupt and undermine american democracy. for more about it, alex marquarma marquardt has our story. >> reporter: facing criticism he hasn't focused enough on the security threat from russia, the president met with his national security team to discuss election interference. so far, the administration vague on the details. >> just rest assured there are actions under way to protect our elections or to expose any external, by anybody, external efforts to influence the american public, to show false news, that sort of thing. >> reporter: it comes as
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missouri senator claire mccaskill accuses russian operatives of trying to hack into her office last year. saying in a statement, while this attack was not successful, it is outrageous that they think they can get away with this. i will not be intimidated. i said it before and i'll say it again, putin is a thug and a bully. mccaskill is one of the most vulnerable democrats running for re-election this year. a senior microsoft executive confirmed three 2018 candidates have been targeted by the same group of russian intelligence operatives who targeted democrats in 2016. >> they were all people who because of their positions might have been interesting targets from an espionage standpoint as well as an election disruption standpoint. >> reporter: the hackers used fake microsoft pages and fishing attacks. the company is on high alert for similar pages which they say they take down when discovered. it is the campaigns rather than the voting systems that are the most vulnerable targets. >> the fact of the matter is the campaign staff is never going to
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be able to get to the level of these adversaries and stare them down. we're talking about the most sophisticated cyberoperators in the world, russian intelligence, the iranians, the north koreans. >> reporter: the trump administration has come under fire for not announcing a comprehensive, coordinated plan to thwart cyberthreats. >> i think it is an embarrassment that this white house has not made election security a top priority and has not put the kind of attention and focus on it that we need. >> reporter: in may, top intelligence officials are sounding the alarm, comparing the state of danger to the months before the 9/11 attacks. >> i'm here to say the warning lights are blinking red again. today the digital infrastructure that serves this country is literally under attack. >> reporter: the department of homeland security oversees the defense of the country's voting infrastructure. but on offense, it is less
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clear. with the nsa, fbi and military all taking leading roles. >> we really need more connective tissue between people gathering intelligence, people doing law enforcement, and people charged with protecting a different asset in the digital realm. >> reporter: alex marquardt, cnn, new york. >> let's talk with steven irlinger, chief diplomatic correspondent for "the new york times" live via skype from brussels. pleasure to have you on the show. so when it comes to this issue of cybersecurity, we heard from the president before, either it becomes a political issue or an issue that it seems he feels undermines his presidency. but given the pressure that we're seeing now, do you think there might be something the trump administration will do on this topic. is the pressure mounting? >> i think the government itself is doing quite a few things to protect the democratic process
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from russian interference from anyone's interference. people have been working on beefing up security for voting machines, for lots of things. they worry more about voter registration, easier perhaps to manipulate, but the point this time is that having experienced it once, people are much more aware of what might happen this time. so i think the defenses are up, even without a big push from the actual white house itself. as you know, you know, elections are pretty much state affairs and so to a large degree this is the responsibility of the states. but forewarned is forearmed. and i think there is a lot that has happened here. in germany, too, in the last year, having, you know, watched what happened in the american and french elections, the germans were, you know, much more aware of russian efforts to
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meddle with their elections. so it is a battle. it is true that things are blinking red but they're always blinking red. we're under cyberattack, people are trying to get into our systems all the time. we just had a story that the rugs seem to be more engaged now in getting into america's electricity grids and power grids than into the electoral system and no one is sure what the point of that is. maybe it is just a show that they can do it or they can try to do it. but this is what they did in ukraine a couple of years ago and shut down the electricity grid for some time. there are efforts going on, chinese are trying to get in, steal intelligence and industrial secrets. this is a big problem generally, i think. >> it is. interesting that you brought up that russians are alive and well, hacking into our systems and even our power grid.
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we have been covering vladimir putin right now, showing off his military might in russia. a contrast, isn't it, between the seeing president trump and vladimir putin making friendships and inviting each other over and at the same time look at what we're talking about, look what's going on. it is odd to say the least. >> well, it is. and, of course, you know, russia is trying very much to assert its power. to tell the world it is back again, that a weak russia is gone and this russia, despite its demographic decline, despite its overdependence on energy exports, despite its gdp, which is no bigger than that of sweden right now, but militarily it is a nuclear power, it has modernized its rockets, the airplanes, and it is showing off now it is modernizing its fleet. it intends to show that it can
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and add voice and tv for $34.90 more per month. call or go online today. good morning. coast to coast across the united states, and to our viewers around the world, this hour, you're watching "cnn newsroom." thank you for being with us. i'm george howell. >> i'm natalie allen. here are the top storstoriys. a raging wildfire in california killed five people this is one of many wildfires. this one has destroyed nearly 84,000 acres, that's about 33,000 hectares and it is only 5% contained. 38,000 people have had to flee their homes and police say sadly that looting has been reported in some evacuated neighborhoods. >> unbelievable. we now know at least 14 people are confirmed dead and more than 160 people are
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injured, this after a strong earthquake struck an indonesian island east of bali, not far from a volcano. the magnitude 6.4 tremor damaged more than a thousand homes, but no tsunami advisories have been issued. >> monsoon rains are triggering daily floods in northern india. at least 60 people have died there, dozens injured since heavy rainfall, lightning and flooding began on thursday. egypt's highest islamic authority is set to consider whether 75 people should be sentenced to death. an egyptian court is seeking the death penalty or their involvement in a 2013 demonstration to support the ousted president mohamed morsi. those accused include members of the now banned muslim brotherhood. a 17-year-old palestinian girl is out of prison in israel. you might have heard about her by now. her name is ahed tamimi. and she's now back in the west
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bank after being released from a prison in israel. in a brief statement to the media, she was defiant saying the resistance continues. >> she was jailed late last year after she was filmed kicking and slapping an he's really soldier. the incident occurred after a soldier allegedly wounded her 15-year-old cousin shooting him in the head with a rubber bullet. israeli officials challenged that account. her actions made her a hero to many palestinians. israeli authorities changed her with a list of offenses including assault. >> oren lieberman is following the story for us. she is out of prison. many have criticized israel for jailing a teenager, for slapping the soldier after what happened. and she is out and had something to say. what can you tell us? >> reporter: absolutely. she was released early this morning from the prison in central israel. she was taken to a west bank crossing and then to her home village where she was greeted as
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a hero by dozens of her supporters waving palestinian flags, chanting slogans and lining up to hug her. you mense ementioned she's a he she's more than that. she came to attention in 2012 when a picture of her holding up a fist to an israeli soldier went viral. this has served to increase her fame, her lawyer speaking to cnn a short time ago said the entire case was political and wasn't based on legal issues. she was in jail for eight months and then struck a plea deal in march with prosecutors, pleading guilty to counts of incitement and disrupting a soldier, notably eight of the 12 charges against her were dropped. she served five more months having already served three months of her sentence and then released again, as i said to a hero's welcome. after stopping at her village, she made a short statement
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saying from our home, the resistance is continuing until the end of the occupation. then she went to ramallah, the presidential compound, where she visited the grave of palestinian leader yasser arafat and paid her respects there. she's made her way back to her home village where she'll address the media, holding a press conference in just a few hours. natalie and george? >> what is it about her vigor, her passion that has her in the spotlight like this? she is a tough girl, what she did. of course, she -- you shouldn't slap a soldier, i want to make that point as well. >> reporter: tough girl seems to be a bit of an understatement. her family is well known as activists. that has led to her fame. the 2012 picture of her holding up her fist to an israeli soldier rocketed her to stardom and that path continued as her name continued to be out there. part of it is the fact she was 16 years old when she was
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arrested and already famous meaning it was that much easier to pick up on her story. there were questions from the very beginning about should she have served eight months in prison for slapping a soldier, especially after the -- another soldier allegedly had shot her cousin in the head with a rupper bullet, injuring him. all of that made the case more volatile, more polarizing and made her more famous. we haven't seen any response from the israelis since her release, since this morning. perhaps israeli officials would rather see this case move on quietly. that's what it seems like right now. but given her fame, given the statement she is about to make, doesn't seem like this is going quietly at all. >> not at all. we'll wait and see what she has to say. thank you. russia is putting on a show of military strength, a spectacle that has geopolitical significance. moscow kicking off the international army games and its navy day which is a public
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holiday. >> moments ago, you saw him, president vladimir putin inspected some of russia's newest equipment, designed to challenge the united states and nato. the showcase is also sending a clear message to russia's allies and its foes. >> following the story live, fred pleitgen is in st. petersburg, by phone. this is a show of force from what we have seen meant for two audien audiences, for there in russia and abroad. >> just a couple of feet away from where vladimir putin gave his speech from. it is a show of force, for russia's domestic audience and to show how strong the military has become. it was in a lot of trouble in the early 2000s. we see the military continuously be upgraded over the past couple of years, especially i would say since 2007, 2008, until this
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show here, this parade for the navy day, is one that is certainly meant to showcase some of the new ships that russia that in its arsenal. in his speech, vladimir putin said the navy has helped russia achieve what he called parody. that is aimed at the united states. it is much bigger, but the russians think they have a big naval force now once again as well. to see some thin things they w showcasing here, they have a spysh spyship, they have a stealth frigate they had on display here as well, a lot of trouble launching but now seems to be operational, that's what they say. they had a submarine they called the scarrier killer, also here. the russians sending a very clear message that while vladimir putin is talking about disarmament, the leaders seem to be getting along despite the troubles between the u.s. and russia, the russians saying their military is that strong
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and as lethal as it has been since the end of the cold war. >> several assets on display. also note woernl worthy to poin asset missing from the lineup. >> one of the flagships of the navy, the only aircraft carrier that russia has in its arsenal, it was seen in operation last year, outside of syria, it was part of the syrian -- one thing that the russians noticed there, that they had to acknowledge, they were having some problem with that ship and with the operations of that ship as well. some planes that crashed upon takeoff from that ship and tried to get back. that was a big thing that really led to questions about the eektieekt i effectivity when it is in combat operation. it is undergoing upgrades, it is going to take seven months.
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>> follow ting the story, fred pleitgen in st. petersburg, thank you. a former cricket star is set to be pakistan's next prime minister. a look at imran khan's controversial rise to power.
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to secure another term. >> his government dissolved the main opposition party, dissolved it, and launched a crackdown on independent media. meantime, china has emerged as a key economic supporter of his government. looks more like imran khan will be pakistan's next prime minister. election officials say his party won the most seats in the general election this week. khan declared victory days ago, but he does not have an outright majority. he will neat aed allies to form coalition and that could be tricky. >> khan is a national hero from his correricket days, but many the vote was fixed. he's seen as the military's favorite candidate. cnn's nick paton walsh has a look at khan's rise to power. >> reporter: an historic height, an extraordinary journey. cricket star turned socialite turned political fire brand, imran khan is close to becoming
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pakistan's new prime minister. after a bitterly fought election that upturned pakistan's tightly controlled political order. and casting the sporting icon as a sometimes anti-american force for change. born into a wealthy family, khan soon discovered his gift as a fast bowler, leading pakistan to the first and only world cup cricket victory and khan to become a national hero in a country where cricket is always worshipped and palestinians oft -- politicians often reviled. after a spell as international playboy, he married his first wife, wealthy london socialite jumama khan. he raised money for charities, building a cancer hospital in his home city. but back in the turmoil and injustice of '90s pakistan, his political ambitions grew, founding a new party for pakistan movement for justice,
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his central pitch, to end corruption among the country's ruling elite. pakistani politics has few umpires or rules, though, and is often marred by violence and coups. he was briefly arrested in 2007 for criticizing general pervez musharraf. a month later, a political rival, former prime minister benazir bhutto was assassinated on the campaign trail. khan kept his sights on the premeershpr premiership. he could marshall huge crowds and win the vote in one pakistani province. he was a distant third, however, nationwide. his conservatism grew as well. religious, panning american interference, and favoring pakistan's drastic and sometimes brutal blasphemy laws. this year, he wrote a populist wave, promising to fight for equality and get tough on terror. his vision, he says, is for a new pakistan. what that means, his critics
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don't know. >> not clear what he really wants to do. he wants to change the system, but nobody knows exactly what kind of change would he bring. >> reporter: his supporters think any change is good. >> translator: we are sparting imran khan because he promised to stop corruption in pakistan. we're hopeful we'll have a better future and our children will have a better future. >> translator: this is the first time anyone has treated us as human beings. but we have right too. somebody is finally saying we also need medicine and education and other things. >> reporter: this is just the first innings. he'll need to form a stable government, handle a looming economic crisis and navigate the powerful army who really decide the winners in pakistani politics and may still be unsure about this charismatic reformist outsider. nick paton walsh, cnn, islamabad. still ahead, the u.s. president's tricky past with the
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since becoming u.s. president, donald trump has told on average at least six falsehoods a day. that according to "the washington post" which keeps track and said mr. trump's tally of lies topped 3,000 back in may. >> one can imagine that number has certainly gone higher since then. cnn's gloria borger has this story for us. >> reporter: from the election itself -- >> many places like california, the same person votes many times, you probably heard about that. there was -- that's a conspiracy theory. not a conspiracy theory, folks, millions and millions of people. >> reporter: to the inauguration -- >> we had a massive field of people, you saw that. it went all the way back to the washington monument. >> reporter: to statements like this -- >> what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. >> reporter: donald trump has had a fraught relationship with the truth. one that goes back decades to
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the building and selling of trump tower where barbara res managed the construction. >> he planted that, he was looking for an apartment in trump tower. >> reporter: that didn't happen? >> no. it made the papers. >> reporter: it was getting the buzz out there about trump. did you laugh at it or -- >> yeah. nothing so terrible about it, i mean you know it was like puffing, like exaggerating. >> reporter: tony swartz, co-author of trump's art of the deal, has a name for this. >> i came up with this phrase truthful hyperbole, which is, you know, i called it an innocent form of exaggeration. now i can call something that i actually sold for $2 million, i can say $10 million and that becomes truthful hyperbole. the problem is that there is no such thing as truthful
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hyperbole. the truth is the truth. hyperbole is a lie. they don't go together. >> reporter: and they didn't go together during the troubled opening of trump's atlantic city taj mahal casino in 1990. when some of the flocks didn't work. >> the casino control commission went down there on opening day to check out that all the things had been done, many things hadn't been done, they shut down a third of the slots. >> reporter: slots that were critical to the casino's success. >> the slots are the prime revenue producer of the casino. to shut down the third on opening day was humiliating and financially disastrous. it was only done because he doesn't have an organization in depth. >> reporter: that wasn't the story trump told. >> something could go bad, like the opening of the taj, and he would say, it is because we had so much business here that this happened. not that the system is broke down, not that we didn't know what we were doing, we had so
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much business, it broke down. he would lie about everything. >> reporter: and he did. >> what about the slot machine thing where they were down for a while? >> the slots were so hot, nobody's -- again, nobody has seen people play that hard and that fast. >> it blew out the slots? >> blew part. they were virtually on fire. >> he's so wrapped up in hyperbole, it is almost constant lies. you know, whether it is the littlest things where, you know, if you had 2,000 people at an event, he would say there were 5,000 people at an event. >> reporter: and he got away with it. >> there is no belief system. if it will work, will say it. if it stops working, i'll say it's opposite and i will not feel any compunction about saying it is opposite because i don't believe anything in the first place. >> reporter: switching gears is exactly what president trump had to do after his press conference with vladimir putin. attempting to walk back this remark on election interference.
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>> my people came to me, dan coats came to me, and some others, they said they think it is russia. i have president putin, he just said it is not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. in a key sentence in my remarks, i said the word would instead of wouldn't. the sentence should have been, i don't see any reason why i wouldn't or why it wouldn't be russia. >> seeing it from his perspective doesn't make a distinction between what's true and what's false. his only distinction is what will work and what will not work? >> reporter: and what happens when he's challenged with facts? what does he do? >> he has a genius, you know, perverse genius for turning any situation into something that is evidence of his brilliance. even if it is not true. >> reporter: gloria borger, cnn,
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washington. >> and that is "cnn newsroom." we thank you for watching. i'm natalie allen. >> i'm george howell. for viewers in the united states, "new day" is next. for news around the world, erin burnett out front is ahead. >> see you later. ♪
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