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pick up once again tonight meaning those flames will once again be fanned. >> awful situation. thank you very much. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now. outfront next, breaking news, the president's lawyers says trump will decide within days whether he will sit down with bob mueller as the president tells his national security team to take on russia. why now? shocking testimony about paul manafort's wealth. a key witness today says he was broke in 2016 and telling lies to fund his lifestyle. and a russian spy caught inside the u.s. embassy in moscow. how did the u.s. allow her to work there for more than a decade? good evening. i'm erin burnett. the breaking news. president trump to decide within days whether he will talk to bob
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mueller. rudy giuliani telling politico that the president and his team will spend the weekend talking it over and giuliani adds they are on track for a decision in as little as a week as the president puts on a big show at the white house to show he actually is fighting election meddling. an official telling cnn the president told top security officials to step up. the only person missing from the stage was president trump himself. instead, they all were there, the national security adviser john bolten, chris wray and nsa chief. you see them all, no sign of the president. instead, his cabinet praised the president for taking on election meddling. >> the president has specifically directed us to make the matter of the election meddling and securing our
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election process a top priority. >> the president has made it very clear i think what his priority is. >> i appreciate the leadership and support from the president. >> leadership, a priority by this president regarding election meddling? it seems almost a bit of an alternate universe. it has been more than 18 months since president trump took office. we are just hearing this now? just about five months ago it was a different story about president trump's role in stopping election meddling from some of the same people who were on stage praising the president today. >> we are taking a lot of specific efforts to -- >> are you directed by the president? >> not specifically directed by the president. director pompeo have you received specific directives to disrupt the activities? >> i can't say i have been
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specifically directed to actively stop -- >> that was loud and clear. to be clear that was february. as far as we know that was still the case at least until today. it is a great thing if the situation has changed, but why now? and why is the president all of a sudden so concerned that he called up intel chiefs and directed them to go out there publically and contradict what they had said before from the white house podium? after all, evidence of attacks on america's election is not new. the "new york times" reported two weeks before president trump's inauguruation that he was shown information that indicated vladimir putin was personally involved in ordering the attacks. the senate intelligence committee released reports, the president has denied it again and again and again for the a55 days since taking office.
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standing by vladimir putin he called out the same people defending him, the president in helsinki took putin's word against theirs. >> my people came to me, dan coats and others and said they think it is russia. i have president putin. he just said it is not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. why did the president parade national security chiefs to say something new which contradicts what he has said? jeff zeleny is out live. he is about to speak, what are the odds he brings up this issue tonight? >> reporter: good evening. you can see president trump has just taken the stage right behind me. it's an open question. i can tell you -- the fact of the matter is -- the fact that
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it was a news story or that they were talking about it at all. the question here is what led the president to direct them? the only thing that has changed is the manafort trial. the only thing that has changed recently is the development in the russia investigation. that is one of the reasons we believe that the president directed his top national security officials to come out and say this today. we will certainly let you know if the president talks about it tonight here at this rally. he certainly could. it will be the first opportunity to do so. no matter how many national security officials come to the white house it is still not as loud as the mega phone a president has. so far he is not using it. >> jeff zeleny, thank you very much. i want to go to the former campaign manager for donald
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trump. rudy giuliani says president trump is going to decide, they are talking about it over the weekend and they will have a decision. yes or no to bob mueller's interview. which way do you think he goes? >> i haven't spoken to the president about it directly. if he did ask my opinion my -- i'm not an attorney, but my political advice to the president would be not to sit down with bob mueller because there has been no evidence that this president did anything wrong and the campaign did anything wrong during the campaign. and the opportunity to make a misstatement potentially or to potentially get caught up on the word is too great of something that can happen there. i don't think the president has a reason to sit down with bob mueller and have a conversation. what i do think is important is that bob mueller finishes his investigation and makes his report to the department of justice quickly so that we can get this behind us. >> giuliani also said yet again this point about what the topics
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will be. he said we don't want questioning on obstruction. they would have to concede that. they are not on the same page on this crucial issue of obstruction of justice. why do you think the president is so against questions about obstruction of justice given that the public record on this speaks for itself? he said one thing to nbc news and another thing on twitter. why wouldn't he answer questions when he has been so public about it? what is his issue with it? >> i think the president does want to sit down with bob mueller and his legal counsel is advising him against this. every good attorney wants to make sure that their client doesn't make any statements that can come back to cause them pain in the future. that is what his legal team i think is recommending that the president doesn't sit down. i think the president does want to sit down with bob mueller and get this behind him. >> there this is whole idea out there that he likes to be the good cop and say i want to talk
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to him and then but my lawyers say i can't. so he gets credit for looking like an honest guy when he has no intention of doing it. you don't buy that? >> i don't buy that. i truly believe that this president wants to tell bob mueller his story but his attorneys don't want him to do it. his attorneys have been negotiating with the mueller team for months now about what a sit down could look like. this is no different than when bill clinton's attorneys were recommending to him not to sit down with ken star. he was forced to do that and his attorneys didn't want him to but he was required to do it. this president is saying you negotiate the terms of this discussion and i will sit down because i have nothing to hide. that is what he wants to do with the mueller team. >> you heard obviously today he had his intelligence chiefs go out and say that he has directed them to fight meddling. obviously, a few months ago he said they had not. when it comes to russia attacking american elections the president has repeatedly
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minimized or denied russia's role. here are a few examples. let me just remind our viewers. >> i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. i will go along with russia. could have been china or a lot of different groups. it could have been somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. >> why can't he just say russia did it? does he feel that somehow that is admitting that maybe they p helped him in the election? >> i think sarah huckabee sanders addressed this today during the press conference where she said it wasn't just russia that has attempted to meddle in our elections. >> they were small fish. every report from the intelligence community, from every person who works for the president said it was russia directed by vladimir putin.
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it's just denying the reality. why does he deny? >> the president came out after his meeting with vladimir putin and said he misspoke and there is no reason he wouldn't have believed that russia interfered with that. that is a very important point. he walked back a statement that he made in helsinki and said he made a mistake. he has acknowledged that russia could have and did interfere with the election. >> after he put that -- he tried to say i meant why wouldn't it be, whatever. he then said it could be other people, also. there are a lot of people out there. that is far from it was russia. even after he clarified, that is a quote. >> but i believe and our intelligence community has verified this, multiple countries have attempted to influence. this is the first election since he has been the president of the
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united states where he can do something about it. any meddling that took place took place under the obama administration. any hacking that took place was a fault of the previous administration. he was a candidate for office at the time. now we have seen today a steadfast resolve from all of the members of the intelligence community and said we will ensure that the integrity of the election process under this administration in 2018 is whole. that is a direction of this president. he had no ability in 2016 to prevent the outcome of an election. that was under the obama watch. if they failed that is what we are discussing. >> and yet 18 months ago he was told vladimir putin personally directed this. 18 months ago the intelligence community said vladimir putin did this with the intent to help donald trump and hurt hillary clinton. this was all 18 months ago. today is the first time he sent his intelligence chiefs out to say what they said. that is a 59 d559 days. why did it take so long?
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>> with all due respect i think some of the information he received from previous intelligence individuals was biassed and incorrect. more importantly -- >> about russia? >> about a number of things including false dossiers and an investigation i think we know are false. we know there is information that those intelligence individuals whether clapper or comey or others knew it was inaccurate and provided that to the president. as it relates to the integrity of our election process just because we haven't been talking about it doesn't mean there haven't been steps being put in place. if anybody has attempted to influence the outcome of a u.s. election in an inappropriate way they should spend the rest of their lives in jail. i firmly believe that. >> you have said that. he has not said that. there is a difference. you have worked for him and are loyal to him. >> what we saw today was a
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recommitment from the intelligence officials to ensure that they are taking every step necessary that we have integrity at the ballot box at the direction of this president. just because they announced it today doesn't mean they haven't been working on it for months. >> today they said repeatedly his leadership and his support and gave him credit for that and his direction. five months ago dan coats was very clear. we'll go through each of the names. they were clear that they had not been directed by this president to take on russian meddling. that was five months ago. he had not directed them to do that. that has changed in just the past five months. >> i don't know when the conversation may or may not have occurred with his intelligence community members. what i do think is they don't need a direction from the president specifically to ensure that we have integrity at the ballot box. this is something they are tasked with and something they need to make sure so we have a free and fair democracy,
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something that should have started the day that those gentlemen came into office because their predecessors failed during the 2016 election cycle. >> thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. and next breaking news in the paul manafort trial. his long-time accountant revealing he was broke around the same time he started kocozyg up to the trump campaign. and a suspected russian spy found working at the u.s. embassy in moscow for a decade. (vo) when bandits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach,
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one of paul manafort's long time book keepers took the stand saying the former trump campaign chairman was broke in 2016 and lied to banks about it. she gave examples and in one she told jurors that manafort told the bank his company made $3 million when he lost money. how serious was the financial trouble that paul manafort was in? i say this in the context of being told this is a guy who had like $60 million coming in from basically one client and didn't pay taxes on it and yet he is broke. it is stunning. >> we heard testimony from his book keeper. she testified that at one point he was so broke that he was in
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danger of losing his health insurance in early 2016. this is a time when paul manafort was approaching the trump campaign about becoming the manager of the trump campaign and offering to work for free. so the dichotomy is kind of stunning. the book keeper testified that at one point she was urgently asking for $120,000 so he could pay bills including property taxes. we also heard from the book keeper and his tax preparer. both testified that paul manafort never told either of them about more than a dozen bank accounts that he kept in the island of tsiprsi cypress. these at least during the time that he had a lot of money -- this in contrast to 2016 when he was dead broke. >> it is pretty incredible. now, i have to ask you about it.
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day three, this is going much more quickly than had been earlier anticipated. manafort is sitting in that room every day. his wife behind him. you have been watching them. what has his demeanor been so far, his reaction as he hears all of this. >> he goes in between paying close attention and going through some of the exhibits. they have a computer screen in front of him that is showing him some of the pictures of his ostrich jacket and the python jacket and pictures of some of the things that he has bought with this money. and then there are times when he is not looking at all. he is simply writing down notes. his wife sort of pays attention sometimes and other times just stairs down at the floor. the truth is that the odds are against paul manafort. this is a case that is based on documents. so it's very likely that he knows what his fate will be if he is found guilty which is spending the rest of his life in
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prison. >> pretty incredible thing considering all the years he had gone without anybody noticing and then takes the high profile job and that is his undoing. i want to guy to rick gates' former lawyer. and white house correspondent for american urban radio networks april ryan and patrick healy is here with me. manafort was broke when he went to work for trump for free in 2016, maybe he thought you are back at the top of the u.s. political world and help me get jobs overseas. how surprising is this? broke when we are hearing about $60 million bucks from one country. >> this a breed from oligarchs. particularly the political consultant game can be -- there can be very big pay days as we know from overseas.
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paul manafort saw a lot of money to be gained in places like ukraine and sort of desperate characters and actors who had access to a lot of money. frankly, he also saw that in donald trump. the notion of like this guy is about to win it looks like the republican nomination. he is loving this kind of attention. he is loving the train that he is on. how much money can i make from him? it is part of the american political consultant class. it's really surprising. >> april, again, this issue of being broke. compared to what we heard today from the book keeper and some of the landscapers and others who testified about manafort's spending. i want to show everyone a picture. this is manafort's house in the ha hamptons. this is not the house of a broke man. $450,000 on landscaping and shaped a flower bed in the shape of an m. and then a pond, $2.2 million
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for apple tvs and other electronics including $10,000 for a karaoke system. it's just stunning. it just gives a perspective of how this person thought. he is spending money like this and then he is broke. >> in the hole, in the hole. he made it rain. he actually made it rain with the $60 million and it came from basically from the ukraine with connections to russia. here is the thing. we can't fathom this because a lot of people have to deal with paying for college education. if you put two of the jackets together, the python and the ostrich you can possibly put a down payment on an ivy league college education for one year. think of that. he lived in a lifestyle that many of us would not understand. he was spending $1,200 on suits,
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one suit $1,200. when you deal with a pocket square that is commensurate to the price of the suit and the shirt. for him to be broke like that, according to what they say in 2016, he was trying to come back. he was trying to make a financial come back by doing it for free. he was hanging in circles with people who had the money. he lost his but he was trying to get it back. >> it almost looked like pathetic you want to get money for campaign manager when you are worth this amount of money. the landscaper said there was a bill presented that supposedly he gave to manafort. the landscaper said i never did. he called it a quote fake invoice. he said the vendor name was wrong, the home improvement vendor said the same thing that
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something manafort had been presented was not from him, it had the wrong name and address. what could be the significant of these fake invoices? which totalled in hundreds of thousands of dollars a piece. >> that is a fascinating piece of evidence. we don't know how the prosecutors are going to end up tying that up yet. they are simply laying the foundation. it certainly sounds like from what we heard in court today that this is from merchandise and services possibly never received. that could be an important building block towards the notion that he was hiding money and got money and wanted to make it look like he was spending it. >> you know rick gates because you were his former lawyer. you know him well. he is obviously centered to all of this. we heard from more people all saying manafort and manafort alone was the one they dealt with, the one who did everything. never heard any mention of rick gates. and now as manafort is trying to
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say rick gates is the orchestrater of all of this. rick gates may testify tomorrow and hit the stand. you know him. how important is his testimony going to be? >> i think that rick is extremely important to the case. it's a very bold move by the defense to put all their eggs in one basket and blame him for everything. it is very clever in the sense that he as an operational person is going to be at the center of everything so it allows the defense to mount a broad attack against all of the government's case just by focussing it on him. i think it will be critical. the down side you put all your eggs in one basket. if rick comes across well on the stand that will be devastating for him. >> if the glove doesn't fit there can be a big issue.
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most people know who what i am referring. gates and manafort worked side by side for years. manafort was shocked and broken in a certain sense when gates turned on him. this is his worst nightmare. >> rick gates knows all the secrets. this is a guy who they were extremely close. rick gates was very loyal. paul manafort of all things he thought could go wrong during the investigation, it wasn't rick gates turning on him. the reality is we don't know where this is going to go. in terms of credibility you see the way that the prosecution is going. manafort is very roughed up. you will have rick gates potentially coming in and laying on thick a lot of details that are going to be filling in blanks about either how greedy he was, how willing he was to go with people like donald trump to ukraine for a pay day. >> april, you heard evan. we are not seeing any -- no
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sadness or contrition but a lot of engagement whether with actual exhibits or the computer in front of him from manafort. >> that's the piece. people want to see that you have some kind of remorse or what have you. it doesn't play well in the court of public opinion when you see your items and you have no regard either way. the bottom line is we'll see what happens how he reacts when rick gates takes the stand. that will be very interesting because rick gates is trying to save himself. he is known, he perjured himself. now the prosecution is saying we want you to believe him. even though he purged himself we want you to believe him because he will be the smoking gun for manafort. we will see how deep this is and how extensive this is. >> rick gates had a motive. he has i believe four young kids at home. thank you all very much.
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with a russian informant. i'm talking about arogorav. the pop star is the one who was reaching out to don jr. to set up the meeting, the one at trump tower. great to see you again. let me ask you the big question here. bob mueller wants to talk to both of your clients. will they do it? >> theoretically, yes. we are willing to cooperate. this is not big news. we have been engaged in conversations with the mueller team for many months. we have not been able to come to ground on what the terms of any interview would be. >> what is the hold up? there is obviously something that they are very strong about and you are very strong about. >> they have been operating in good faith. i think there are issues about
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location. for some reason the mueller team doesn't want to go to moscow. my folks are not enthusiastic about coming here. what are topics? if it is purely about a single meeting we have nothing to hide from our perspective. >> they want more. >> they want more. i think to engage with non-u.s. persons about their business dealings that are separate and distinct i think it is beyond the pail. >> except there are a lot of ties between the trump family and the agalarov family. their knowledge or links to the trump/russia business connection would appear to be relevant. >> there are a number of connections. i wouldn't say a tight relationship. there was the miss universe pageant. that is really the extent of the
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relationship. i think it is a business relationship and a social relationship. >> so as i said, the miss universe pageant in moscow, they were there together and then talks about the trump tower. that was my idea, amin admitted. trump tweeted to him after the pageant, i had a great weekend with you and your family. they were all together in las vegas. it wasn't just a casual nothing relationship. >> most definitely there was a relationship. most definitely there was a friendship and there were some threshold business dealings. that is the extent of it. we would love to be in a position to cooperate under the right terms. we have nothing to hide on any issues but getting to ground and what that would be. >> you are willing to talk about anything about the meeting in trump tower but nothing about the business dealings. >> this is the kind of stuff we had conversations about.
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certain things are permissible. to get into wide ranging discussions about other unrelated issues seems out of bounds especially for folks who were not u.s. persons. >> you are saying this issue about jurisdiction matters and they haven't been to the united states in two years i would say in part because of all of this. >> the problem is not just about the mueller team. there are congressional investigations, civil lawsuits out there. once you come here you can be subpoenaed. you can be subject to anybody's jurisdiction. there is a skepticism, a concern about being subject to u.s. jurisdicti jurisdiction. >> moscow is great this time of year. >> you are not meeting them in person? >> with the mueller team? >> with your client? >> i meet them in moscow. >> so about the meeting, michael cohen came out with this sort of bombshell allegation as you well know saying donald trump himself knew about the meeting, that michael cohen witnessed don jr. informing his father about the
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meeting. now, obviously, your clients were not present at any pre-discussions but to the best of your knowledge did the president know about the meeting? >> my clients have no reason to believe that that occurred. they never spoke to the president about the meeting before or after and they never heard anything either before or after to even suggest the president was inform ed the meeting was going to happen. >> would they have wanted him to know? someone they know is going to come with information, donald trump is their contact. i would assume they would have liked for him to have known at the time? >> i think the whole scope of the meeting has been somewhat misrepresented. from my client's perspective this was to talk about the obscure act. from their perspective it was never about dirt on anybody. this was doing a favor to facilitate a meeting between the
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russian lawyer. >> the lawyer at the meeting admitted to nbc news she was a russian informant. you are saying the agalarov agalars had no knowledge of that. >> they knew her because of her real estate practice. nobody had reason to believe she had any government connection. >> they were surprised when she admitted she was an informant. earlier in the year your client released a video that referenced the allegation in the trump dossier about meeting with prostitutes in a hotel. he is with a donald trump imperson ator. there is a bed and the whole thing. here is a clip. ♪ you really got me ♪ you really got me good ♪ >> and donald trump is sort of
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at the side of the room. thisimperson aator. >> this is purely poking fun at fake news and some of the media tension that has been drawn to things where there is no underlying substance. >> so he doesn't know anything about it. he is just taking on the allegations of the dossier and making music. >> that's right. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. and next breaking news, cnn learning a russian spy worked at the u.s. embassy in moscow for more than ten years. and things like the president's schedule is on her desk and americans didn't do anything about it. could paul etjordan be the next governor of idaho?
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russians. outfront former cia operative who at one time did work at the u.s. embassy. you have russian nationals working in that embassy. a senior administration official tells cnn we figure all of them are talking to the fsb, the russian intelligence agency but she was giving them way more information than she should have. i read that and think they didn't know what information she is giving. she is working there for a year and has access to things like the president's personal schedule and a decade goes by? >> well, you know, things do fall between the crack in these embassies. all the russians are reporting to the fsb in one way or another. she probably went way farther than the other ones in getting documents, the president's schedule and the rest of it. what they probably did in a case like this is you put a camera in
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her office, film her, watch what she is getting access to and then fire her. but for me the big point is that we are coming out with this now. this is leaked out. what the federal government, what the state department and cia are telling us is we are coming after the russians. we don't care what this president has to say about putin, it is a new relationship, turning a blind eye to election meddling, we are coming after him. this is more a part of it. >> it is almost like a freelancing -- i find it -- to your point, people make some mistakes. she gets caught. now we are hearing about it. you are saying that is very much on purpose. >> very much on purpose. we normally fire these people quietly. the fact that it happened a year ago and it is coming out now tells the whole story. you have the national security
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agency and everybody else saying the russians are meddling. you are seeing pretty much a revolt inside washington against the president. they are not going to let this stand the russians coming after us again in 2018 and 2020. >> thank you very much. an interesting take on it. of course, now think about how they snuck that camera in there when everyone assumes there are cameras snuck in on them. it is sort of the exciting part about spy craft. the state where republican roots run deep, can a democratic woman win in november? >> i will hold my nose and vote for brad v. the alternative is insanity. >> plus paul manafort's fashion choices. i'm captain obvious and hotels.com
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. the president is in pennsylvania speaking live right now. the second time this week he's hit the trail for republicans, going gung-ho on it. a source says he's worried about democrats taking over the house and rallying his base. did he ever think he would need to worry at all about a democrat, woman, taking over deep red idaho. out front with our special series, "born to run." >> reporter: the rural ranges of idaho, where republican roots run deep. the political landscape paulette jordan runs straight into in her race for idaho governor. >> reporter: how many women have been governor in this state?
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zero. >> reporter: how many people of color have been governor of this state? >> zero. >> reporter: you're looking at headwinds? >> yes. it's about time. >> she's about as comfortable doing a national news interview on horseback as the political barrier she faces. >> it is upon us to challenge the status quo and why it's unique for all the women across the country taking on these opportunities to be leaders and provide a different kind of voice. >> reporter: different is an understatement in this deeply conservative republican state, 80% white. at 38, jordan would be the first native-american woman in history to be elected? it's nice to meet you. >> reporter: inspiring an unexpected democratic surge. at this street fair, jordan was supposed to walk through it. supporter after supporter wouldn't let her get that far. >> i think you're fabulous. >> reporter: so many turned out
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in idaho's primary some precinct ran out of ballots and jordan crushed the establishment candidate. >> i voted for trump in the 2016 elections. >> reporter: it's possible a trump voter could support a democrat in 2018? >> absolutely. >> reporter: andrew crossing the aisle for the same reason he voted for trump, independence. >> i think she has a better background and support to protect our public lands. >> reporter: she doesn't look like a lot of idaho politics, though. >> i think it's fantastic. >> reporter: how do you turn 30 years of republican voting blue? >> the people have been fooled for far too long. now, they're waking up because it's our responsibility to get to them. >> reporter: jordan will have to win communities like this one to win the governor's job. this is canyon county, a conservative stronghold. it's a lot like other parts of idaho. in this state, registered
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republicans outnumber democrats more than 4-1. >> reporter: do you think this woman could win in the state of idaho? >> no. >> reporter: many won't even consider it. gop candidate brad little is their man. >> i will hold my nose and vote for brad's little. i think he's a rhino. >> you will still vote for him? >> i will still vote for him. i think the alternative is insanity. >> do we think we will win? i don't want to take anything granted. she's getting national attention candidates in idaho aren't used to. >> reporter: who do we have to talk to, to remember a time when democrats were in power here? >> here i am. >> reporter: chuck malloy was a young political reporter back in the '80s and '90s, no idaho democratic governors are alive anymore. if paulette jordan ride is a way with the governor's mansion, says malloy, it's not a blue
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wave, that would signal a tsunami. >> you can be adolph hitler and get elected. >> reporter: in this state? >> in this state. people may think, he may be a dirty rat but he's our dirty rat. >> reporter: we reached out to the governor's campaign to see if brad little would like to take part in this is gubernatorial run. the campaign declined saying he was simply not available. >> thank you very much. another fascinating one to watch. next, jeanne moos on nan ma fort's now infamous ostrich jacket. guess what, everybody. there is also an ostrich vest. ♪ ♪ let your perfect drive come together at the lincoln summer invitation sales event.
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so paul manafort's ostrich jacket is not alone. he has a vest. yes, they are just as hideous as you might expect. here's jeanne. >> reporter: the price of an ostrich jacket doesn't really bite until you see it on the invoice, 15,000 bucks! and you're probably imagining this. >> i would imagine like there's feathers on it somewhere. >> reporter: read one tweet, manafort's $15,000 ostrich jacket probably looked like a but i will imagine b anyway. even kimmel fell for the feathers. >> that's what he should wear in jail sitting in the cell dressed up like big bird waiting for the trial. >> reporter: the jacket is actually leather, not feather, it's ostrich from the bumps where the follicles used to be. he bought and ostrich vest for $9,500, something even mr. burns
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on the stimsons didn't possess. ostriches get no respect and neither does an ostrich jacket. something you need in order to work for trump. it allows you to stick your head in the sand. the leather is considered luxury ends up in $35,000 bags. you know who else flaunts the ostrich as a status symbol? j.lo, in her latest music video about money. ostrich wasn't even manafort's most expensive exotic skin. that would be his $18,500 python jacket, then the plaid so similar worn by trump ex-lawyer, michael cohen, someone tweeted did manafort loan cohen his jacket. still, it's the ostrich jacket that has everyone craning their necks. >> that's right. he had a coat made from an ostrich, which explains the
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state's first witness. >> we haven't seen manafort in it, yet someone noted this looks better wearing it. in the eyes of the ostrich, manafort is already guilty. jeanne moos, cnn. >> does that make him guilty? >> reporter: new york. >> all right. and there had to be a vest, too? thanks for joining us, anderson is next. good evening, we begin tonight "keeping them honest" with a tale of two white houses, one where a threat russia poses is real and one where the opposite is true. given all we've seen over the last year and a half, which white house does president trump inhabit. today's press briefing was a show of force from the president's own counter intelligence and national security team and they did not mince words. >> the intelligence community continues to be con
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