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world. they explode the "new york time times", are seemingly racist tweets inexcusable as it claims. are they claiming the hoax, the lawyer says this is freedom of speech is that going to work. plus the boston globe uncovers a tsa program call quiet skies that been spying on thousands of ordinary americans. is that good post--9/11 police work neighborhood, several primaries not yet old enough to vote for themself, i'll ask when navigating controversial issues in our political process. first, are tweets making fun of white the people necessarily racist? and are attacks on police to be taken at face value? those questions arose this week regarding the "new york times" new hire sarah john a 30-year-old technology writer

hired for their prestigious editorial board. typically for a conversation like this i'd go to the "time's," today there was nothing in the print version for hatred of white the people, police, et cetera, et set ramp that's something i noted on twitter, which prompted somebody else to reply, well, what else do you need to know? is it that simple? sit heard she tweeted f the police multiple times? perhaps the president retweeted the drenl report that calls her out. i know one time she said f the police. she included a clip of an animated movie she was watching in which dog raccoons with image cal testicles, i kid you not, have a standoff with comes. i might question her tape in film. but did that in anyway mitigate her question of the police? hopefully they'll be nor forthcoming. what do we know about sarah

john? on paper, she sound impressive a journalist and a lawyer, a senior writer wrote the internet of gar badge, online harassment and the difficulty of regulating it. at harvard, she was name to foosh's 30 under 30 list for media in 2017, as soon as she was hired, old posts were posted on twitter which sound completely racist, such as dumbass white people maik marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs. white men stop breathing. you will go ex10th soon. this was my plan all along, jeong says her response were in line with attempting to punch

back. she quoted post as a woman of color on the internet, i have faced torrents of online hate often along this vain. these two examples. if i saw you, i would south carolina right if your lesbian face shut the f up you dog eating and a slur. she added i engaged in what i thought of at the time as counter trolling. while it was intended as satire, i deeply regret my harassers, general audiences do not engage in such engagements. they say they were already aware of her twitter past and understood it for what it was the statement read, inpart, we have candid conversations with sarah as our thorough vetting process. she understands this type of rhetoric is not acceptable at

the time and we are confident she will be an important voice for the editorial board moving forward. interestingly, it's significant due to another hire in february, quinn nortop, when some of ms. nortop's old tweets surfaced, which included racial slurs and a friendship with an internet troll that works with a neo-nazi website, she ended up stepping down that way. at that time they were not aware of her tweets before they hired her. we reached out to sarah jeong, we were told she was up available. i want to tell you what you think, go to my website, answer the question, should sarah jeong's twitter history have preclude her hire by the "new york times" as a member? joining me rich lowrie, editor of the review, does it patz if shelves counter punching in. >> usually when you are counterpumping, you are replying

no other people on twitter. most of us done react to that with a year's long history of racist tweets, which she did here. so i think that explanation is complete nonsense. i don't like the practice of rum annualing back through people's twitter accounts and firing them on the bafrls of. that so o-of-basis of that. so i think the explanation is total nonsense. >> listen, i want to know the context for all of these controversial tweets. i went look myself and found they are dig lus animated movie a still image that shows the animation and at the top of that f he police. maybe it's intended as a joke in that instance. i noticed there were others, many more, one relative to ferguson, which i guess the context, teaching moment music.

maybe. maybe the lesson of ferguson is f most of the police. >> that doesn't seem to be in response to some twitter troll. >> the same thing with a lot of oother justifying tweets. she retweeted the n word. it was someone using the n-word satirically to control race its and make the pont that they're wrong. the fact that she used her word has enough to be ousted before she got there i don't see how you fire quinn norton and stand behind jeong. the "new york times" i don't think has a defensible standard, clearly if she had used the n-worked she would have been fired. she can go open for years saying horrible thimgs about white people and that's okay. >> look, i'm a big fan of the "time's." i read it multiple times online

every single day. so i'm bengd over backwards to try to be fair. in the statement they released i know zay they say for a period of time she responded by imitating her harassers, implying the instances were all at this time tore f-- tit for tat. >> some people make the same thing there is no racism against white people. if you have an mus based on the color of their skin it's racism, morally blame worthy ansar ra jeong should own up to it and give us an honest and full explanation and apology. >> are you going so far to say what is in the public do main so far this should have precluded her hire? >> i don't like the outraged

mom. i think when you play this game very often innocent people get shot down the way quinn norton was. so i would draw a bright line i don't think people should be fired from media organizations, unless it's based on something they are saying when they are currently employed. i think twitter is a medium where its context are possible people are trolg. very much tongue in cheek and based on that line would not preclude firing her from the "times." . again the "time's" standard is indefensible. it hired her. if you balance the two of them, in terms of which one they should have kept. on the merits clearly it should have been kim norton. in some way they're defending sarah jeong and threw quinn norton overboard. >> i thought it would play into

the hands of those two want to den great the "time's" as being a left wing rag not worthy of attention. i disagree with. thank you, i appreciate you. i will read responses throughout the course of the program. what do we got? here's a person who is so overtly biased and probably emotionally disordered in her thinking the only job the "new york times" should give her is selling papers on the street corner. jerry, i am trying to be fair. i can get a weak attempt at humor, watch thackeray dig lus film about big balled raccoons, are you blanking me? then you look at the ferguson tweet and all the other i can't without that in context. go to my website, answer this question, should sarah jeong's

history have preclude her here by the "time's"? . are ordinary americans hope toblg find possible terrorists? is the added around it wrong? and is alex jones in court trying to throw out a defamation action that he claims the sandy hook massacre was a hoax. is a journalist or prelim cyst? -- prelimicist? can be relentless.

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this week, a secret tsa program quiet skies monitoring ordinary u.s. citizens caused a lot of noise, for months or longer, federal air marshals have been tracking u.s. citizens fought suspected of crime or on a terrorist watch list and checking data about their movements and behavior, at the same time, the tsa is thinking of doing away with security altogether at small airports. both seem like unsettling approaches, according to an internal tsa program from march. air marshalls are trying to read out unknown or more usually

known trifs, do you they ninl it, sleep during the flight or seem overly familiar with the airport or have a cold, penetrating stare? the program has been widely criticized by the boston global. i want to know where before i join the critics. i have written two books about airline security. i am a believer of police using instinct. consider the work of jose perez, melendez an immigration inspector august 4, 2001, stopped moemt moment al ka tanni, he was a saudi national. he incorrectly filled out a claim. he put his name into a computer. it came up negative. his documents seemed genuine a check of his possessions unremarkable.

melendez said this guy just gave me the creeps and said throughout my training and military faerns experience my first empression, he was a young male, black trousers, black shoes, he was 5'6 another, impeccable shoulders and thin waist. a military appearance. poi upon eye contact, he had facial gestures which appeared air began. he had a deep staring look. well the next time the united states encountered him he was fighting for al qaeda in afghanistan. here's the kicker. we now know at the moment he was being given his walking papers by melendez in orlando. there to peck him up as a new arrival is mohammed at that. which is why they said his conduct may have spared the

capitol or white house attacked. he right hand as the 20th hijacker the terrorists should have fended off theatre passenger revolt an continuing on to washington. joining me from the washington investigative police, janna winter. i want to make sleclear i think it's a great report. i have mixed penalties. i want "instinct" to be honored by law enforcement, but i don't want them on a fool's errand. do you think we can do both is this. >> i would like to think so. what we know at this point is obviously there has been a lot of bipartisan outrage, i will note, which is very rare, since our story published last weekend and congress agreed on thursday, tsa officials said, yeah, we followed 5,000 u.s. citizens not under investigation or suspected of any time and not on any

terrorist watch list and 5,000 since march. and they have zero threats. they found nothing. they found no one that measures any follow up. no characters. nothing. i think according to people i've spoken with and other people within ntsa the resources which are slim-to-none to be focused on things that might be of focus. >> i think that's fair. give me an example. what stand out in your mind from those cases that are known to you of someone who has been followed in the sky that would seem ridiculous. >> i would encourage everyone to keep reading our reporting, but i'll say that someone being assigned to follow a southwest flight attendant working the flights, writing down the behavior, everything they do if they change directions, the air marshals are basically looking at their behavior check list saying, okay, she's not drink

anything, but she's pouring a drink, did she go to the bathroom? she's standing by the bathroom, for how long? if flight crew get checked on the background threat, if they were a threat, it would be a threat for every flight they worked not just the one the air marshals are on. that doesn't make sense. >> so what would have caused in that example that individual to show up on their radar to begin with? just where they traveled previously? smr what the program is based on is not what they've done, whether your travel history matches that of unknown or suspected terrorists. so we have flight adentants on it's owe attendants have suspicious travel because that's what they do for work. >> is so my family, we went to istanbul two summers ago on vacation, could something as benign as that cause them to want to follow me in.

>> oh, then, absolutely. then everyone you are traveling with. right to you there is a focus on anyone in turkey for a certain amount of time. >> so where is this headed? i know you are continuing to report on it. you have intimated there is more to dom. what is congress going to do? >> i think congress is ticked off. tsa told me on the record that congress had been briefed. the relevant committees, oversight, have all been toll about this program. during a closed door briefing on thursday, there was a bit of a back and forth. the committee zappers said you never told us anything about this. this is not something that will die down. some lawmakers are calling for hearings. i think that will happen. i don't think anyone is letting this go. there is a lot of things filing. civil liberty groups. >> thanks for your reporting. we'll continue to read.

>> thanks. let's see what you are saying on my smerconish twitter and facebook pages. what do we got? i can't get my head around this. they follow ordinary people around who do not fit any profile of terror or violence. but appeared nervous on a plane. what happens flying makes them nervous. you are getting followed because of what you been. once you are being followed, you might not think this is an appropriate defense, i'm explaining, then they're noting etching, including your habits, posture, how nervous you are, whether you are drinnking. it seems like a waste of resources, but let's not go so far that heroes leak who sea melendez and perez operating on instinct because the guy gives them the creeps and he turns out

to be the would be 20ing hijacker can't be stopped. i want them to be in power of law enforcement. they are saying the children's deaths were stanld. he says he's protected by freedom of speech. is that financial to fly neighborhood, thanks to the lack of age requirement, are several candidates ready for this not yet old enough to vote for themselves? i'll tuque twole in the 2018 i'll tuque twole in the 2018 political climb.

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defamation claiming the massacre is a hoax. here's sample. the family minds i finds actionable. >> the official story of sandy hook has more holes in it than swiss cheese. my gut tells me people controlling the government were involved in this. don't think they wouldn't stage something like this. they kill little kids every day all day. it's the globalists. they're doing it, doing it, stanling it. >> in court, jones' lawyer admitted quote maybe it's fringe speech. measure it's dangerous speech. it's historical he phyperbole a its core to silence them through costly litigation. does he have a case? joerng me is a reporter covering

the trial for the statesman. i remember speaking to you two years ago when alex jones was in the midst of a child custody battle. hits own lawyer at that time said this is all schtick. don't take it so seriously. that would be like holding jack nicklaus accountable for the joker in the "batman" movie. same thing is going on here, right? >> yeah, pretty much. in fact in that case back in april of 2017, they were largely able to exclude any use of alex jones on air personally in that case, so they didn't have to make that argument to any great degree. yes. it's the same thing. it's people tune in to watch the bombbast. they have a certain expectation. this is alex jones, they don't take it literally, apparently in a few cases they cake it quite literally and act on it.

>> we know some people say according to plaintiffs, they have been stalked and had to move a number of times, explain. >> well, these are the parents of one of the children who are killed. and he has placed them in the middle of this sort of tirado because he says on a cnn intervi interview, de la rosa were using a blue screen, there was something fishy about the way the interview was done. that would suggest they were a part of this hoax. and as a result of this, they have been stalked.n they had to move seven times, that was woman who ultimately was sent to federal prison for issuing death threats against them. shelves instructed on her release from prison she can't listen to alex jones anymore.

so they said, they resisted suing him for many years. and then back in april of 2017, he re-issued these claims and they decided enough is enough, heels not going to stop doing this. so they finally filed suit and in texas the defamation law requires you to file within a year. so by remaking or stating these claims, he revived their ability. that's at issue here has he said enough within the year of the statute of limitations to qualify as defamation? ? here's the take away, at least according to me, are you on the scene the take away is that people follow this guy and i mean some people in high places follow this guy. when bush comes to shove and he is challenged in a courtroom, his lawyers say you didn't really believe that, right? it's like the equivalent of pro wrestling. it's all bs. something jones has to fight against to keep that understand.

>> yeah, in fact, in this blue screen argument, his lawyer says, you know, you can't prove that what he said was defamatory. even if it was wrong, it was merely, what he understands, an penalties masquerading as fact. that's the term of art. so he's saying that, you know, take it with a grain of salt, that he's not a journalist, he should not be held to journalistic standards. the plaintiffs have gone to some length to establish that he makes claims that he is an investigator, that he knows what he is talking about, that his blue screen claim is based on his deep experience in broadcasting and there is no reason that a listener should realize that he's not making these claims supported by fact. and that essentially that because of who he is, he's risk

free. he can rant as much as he wants without having to back up his claim. >> thank you, jonathan. i want his audience to know to the extent they are paying attention to me at cnn this is all schtick. it's an act. that's his defense. so don't take it seriously and what an injustice done to those parents if their case is proven. thank you for being here. >> thanks a lot. let's check in on your tweets and facebook comments, hey, alex jones was an actor when he was getting divorced. now he's a journalist. we should call him what he is a vitamin supplement salesman. i get it. >> that hard core audience he's attracted to at youtube, they don't get it. he is trying to to have it in court both ways, people don't do

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so there's something differentant this week's state primary in kansas to replace the governor who left for a diplomatic post. several of the candidates aren't old enough to vote yet. it's quite a crowded field. they include the current governor, secretary of state, state insurance commissioner a doctor, businessman and 17-year-old tyler ruzic. on the democratic side a former wichita mayor, a farmer a family doctor are up against 17-year-old jack ferguson. the students have gotten a unique taste of the process taking stands, participating in debates all before graduating from high school. i wanted to see what they've learned and are thinking about the issues. alet me begin with you. you are 17. you can't vote. what should the voting age be, in local elections, there has been a trend across the country to lower the age.

what should that number be? >> i really believe 16 would be a better number, most people can drive. people can, you can work a part-time job. you are paying taxes. a lot of 16-year-olds are productive members of our society. i believe they should have a right to say how the government functions. there are a lot of 16-year-olds more politically aware than people much old early. i think i not much about age but political awareness an with the rise of the internet and things, it is easier than ever for within people to be informed voters. i think 16 would be a good age and it would allow for greater involvement in our democratic system. >> tyler, what's it been like out on the campaign trail? do people tend to take you seriously or do they think this is somewhat of a lark. >> people definitely fake me seriously. they see on both a republican

and democratic side, i'm the most moderate in this race, as moderate as i like to refer to mile as, they take me seriously from the beginning. in the op ed i wrote for the kansas city star, i said the idea is not age that matters in the kansas governor's race, i think people are focusing on my ideas. the voters are behind me, they're taking me seriously the state republican party has really been doing everything they can to express my voice by not including me in the state party sponsor debates. >> a cent ris a man after my own heart, jack ferguson, medical marijuana the rules have been relax in kansas city, how far should we go? give me a good answer. >> we should legalize it for recreational purposes, do what colorado have done and use the funds for our infrastructure system. colorado used it for their

infrastructure system. we can use that in kansas, it's an issue of ensuring we have the funds to properly educate our children. >> that sounds pretty liberal. are you prepared to go that far and open the doors? >> i think the theme of my campaign is we have to meet in the middle and focus on where we agree and disagree with principle president reagan. what i believe is when it comes to marijuana, i believe on the medical level it should with recognized. we should decriminalize before full criminalization the stance the issue if kansas has many different perspectives, obviously, kansas is taking a more conservative look at the issue and i think you know our action on the issue of marijuana should be representative of the people in the state of kansas, not just following the trend of our great neighbors in missouri or colorado. >> jack, what should be the

minimum wage? kansas follows the $7.25 federal minimum wage. set the number, what should it be? >> i definitely believe it should be much higher. 15 would be ideal, that is the minimum someone can work 40 hours a week and thought be in poverty. we should make so it no one does that, also, i believe that is one issue we need to be incremental on. i believe going to 10, 10, 12 in the beginning. the goal should be 15. we are working so no one has to work 40 hours a week and be in poverty? tyler, what's the number in. >> i think 7:25 may be a good base sign for it. i know that many young people are able start jobs a little bit at a higher pay than that. but obviously, many minimum wage jobs are low skill. they don't require a college

degree. at many times don't require a high school diploma. there is a reason why it's lower. i believe the federal government should get out of the age, the wage issue. i think it should be more localized and up to communities, municipalities and countys to set a better number so they can set a wage that individual economic and fiscal needs and businesses and workers in their communities. >> guys, i think it's great you are running. i, myself, wasn't when i was in my 20s. it didn't work out for me but it was one of the best experiences of my life. so i salute you both. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much for having us on today. >> yes, thank you. >> jack ferguson, tyler ruzic on a kick for all of us at some point in the future. don't you think? up next, when nuclear warfares were at their peek, they built a bunker in west virginia large enough for both

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way some of the tweets do focus, if it had been minorities, people of color, some other ethnic racial group, i don't think they would have hired her. i think your point is well taken in that regard. what else? smerconish, what's the difference between her and roseanne bar other than her fancy degree and she is liberal counter puncher is spin. if she's sending back something nasty to a person that says if i saw you i would sock you in your lesbian face or shut the [bleep] up, it is a slur, it is horrible. she gets a license from me to say whatever she wants to say to those individuals. counter punching, i don't do it. i don't do it. i just ignore the nasty ones that come into my own feed, but to each their own. but unsolicited to go after

cops, you know, that's different. i looked at that animated video, and maybe she thought she was being funny, f the police in the raccoon dog video. going to probably do wonders for that movie, but i see a difference between the two, that which is unprompted and that which is in response to this sort of thing. give me another one. should trump be fired for his tweets, if not, then nobody else should be. now dottie, you're ruining the programming because we haven't mentioned the president this week, not deliberately. it is the first show, i have to say this. it is the first program i have done in a few years where not one of my four blocks was all about donald j. trump. i don't think since before the election, since he was candidate trump, not since mh370 disappeared have i done a show that's trumpless. and you just spoiled that. see you next week. check out the program on cnn go

and on demand. thanks. good morning. thank you so much for sharing your time with us here. i am christi paul. >> i am martin savidge in for victor blackwell. you're in the cnn "newsroom." welcome. secretary of state mike pompeo met north korea's foreign minister and discussed a plan to cooperate on denuclearization, at least for north korea. pompeo tweeted the u.s. delegation had the opportunity to deliver president trump's reply to kim jong-un's letter. >> despite friendly hand shakes and meetings, a confidential u.n. report says north korea is still continuing to develop nuclear and missile programs in violation of international sanctions. cnn senior international correspondent ivan watson has details for us. >> reporter: you had pompeo coming and the north korean