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president don't seem to factor us in, shall we say. the white house putting out a statement within this past hour, condemning that book, denouncing that book. they have in the past denounced people who say they are going public with private information. they've not denounced their supporters though. thank you for joining us today on "inside politics." jim acosta is in for wolf today. he picks up our coverage right now. have a great day. hello. i'm jim acosta in for wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks for joining us. an act of defiance is where we start. an ally of roger stone refusing to testify before a grand jury in the russia investigation, challenging robert mueller. this as another stone ally, the manhattan madam, takes the stand. a judge ordering a plane to turn around and threatening to hold the attorney general in contempt. and north korea forcefully rejecting u.s. nuclear
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proposals, calling them gangster-like. the question now is, are we back to where we started? but up first, special counsel robert mueller's investigators appear to be focusing in on roger stone. mueller's team has subpoenaed comedian and radio show host randy credico, most likely to ask him about stone. an attorney for credico says he plans to comply with the subpoena. cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us with more. what more can you tell us about credico? >> what's interesting here is that randy credico has rebuffed mueller's team before. he refused to do a voluntary interview, but now his attorney is telling us he's received a subpoena and that credico will, in fact, comply. so really why does the mueller team want to hear from credico? well, former trump con iffidant roger stone has previously said that credico was his link to wikileaks founder julian assange. wikileaks, of course, released many of those e-mails that were hacked by the russians during the 2016 campaign.
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what this all shows, this late e subpoena in particular, is that roger stone could be under investigation by the special counsel's team. you know, this subpoena is also for randy credico to testify before a grand jury on september 7th. that's a pretty key date because it means mueller's investigation will still be going full steam ahead after september 1st. of course, jim, even though earlier this week rudy giuliani said he expected the probe to be wrapped up by september 1, and it looks like virtue of this subpoena, that will not be happening. >> also today, andrew miller ski skipped out on a subpoena from mueller's team. what's the deal with skipping out on subpoenas? what more can you tell us? >> that's right. so andrew miller skipped out today. he was supposed to be in court. the judge found him in contempt. but he's refusing to be in court. so that's one side of this. the so-called manhattan madam, kristen davis, she did comply with the subpoena.
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she is before the grand jury today. of course, kristen davis notorious for once running that high-end prostitution ring that played a part in bringing down new york governor elliott spitzer. but key here, she's also a long-time friend and associate of roger stone. so she's before the grand jury. andrew miller, another associate of roger stone, not complying. he's been found in contempt. so jim, all of this swirling around roger stone, mueller's team really keying in on roger stone right now. >> okay, jessica schneider. thank you very much for all of that. for more on these developments, let's bring in cnn legal analyst laura coates and cnn chief political analyst gloria borger. the story seems to come back to roger stone from time to time. why is that? >> well, roger stone has been an associate of donald trump for decades. he is known as a trickster. he proudly present himself as one. he continued to talk to the candidate, as you know, because
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you covered it during the campaign. but i think most importantly, there are questions about whether he was communicating with wikileaks in any way shape or form. so-called guccifer 2.0. there were some direct messages. there were some e-mails with other trump associates in which he said, i believe it was to say i'm having din we are julian assange, which he then said was a joke. so i think obviously roger stone looms large, particularly if you're looking for any link between the russians, which is wikileaks, and the trump campaign. >> laura, associate andrew miller is challenging this subpoena to testify before the grand jury. what do you make of that? i suppose these folks can't defy these subpoenas forever, right? >> no, they cannot. remember, a subpoena is not a request to come in and have a chitchat over some tea and
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crumpets. it's the court telling you that through the power of the grand jury and the prosecutor of the case to say that you are required to come and speak to us about a matter of justice. it's not a request. judges look at that and say we need to have the administration of justice. you can try to defy it as long as you want, but here's our recourse. you can be held in contempt criminally and held in jail until you decide you would like to now speak. it was never a choice. so probably what he's doing is trying to have some line of communication open to say, listen, i'd like this to be a voluntary measure instead. maybe it will be in front of a grand jury if my lawyer can be present. maybe he wants the aid and the crutch of counsel, but that's not going to happen. >> i think they're also raising a constitutional question here. the constitutional question is that the president himself did not appoint the special counsel and that rod rosenstein had no point to appoint a special counsel. >> good luck. >> right, but i do believe that's part of the argument they're going to make.
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>> interesting. and roger stone says he has no plans to testify against the president. let's listen to what he said on "ac 360" this week. >> i have not been contacted by the special counsel's office. i've made it abundantly clear that there's no circumstances under which i would testify against the president. i would not rule out cooperating if they think i could be helpful in some area. but beyond that, i have not spoken to them. >> and laura, what happens if roger stone is subpoenaed? i can't imagine he can flout a subpoena. he'll have to show up and say what he knows. >> he will, and again, you're seeing this theme play out from rudy giuliani and the like, to say that you can just thumb your nose a the a subpoena. perhaps roger stone is becoming emboldened by this concept, which is actually a fallacy, that you can say, i just don't feel like doing it, i'm not going to show up. if i do come, here are the ways i will dictate the terms of it. i'll talk about limited aspects of it. the power is not before roger
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stone. the power is in the grand jury. the grand jury would like to have questions answered by them through the probe. so he can't thumb his nose. perhaps he's taking his page out of a fantasy playbook from giuliani. >> and gloria, help me out with this one. this other stone associate, kristen davis, she appeared before a grand jury today. as i watch this, we're all sort of wondering, how does she fit into all this? do we know? >> we don't know. we may eventually know. what we know is that she's a very close friend of roger stone's. she did run for governor, i believe, in new york. he was helping her campaign then. so i think they are colleagues, friends, whatever. we don't know what her relationship was with roger vis-a-vis wikileaks, vis-a-vis anything else. so sort of a titillating thing. oh, manhattan madam, she's
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testifying before the grand jury. i have no idea what she's got. >> laura, do all these attempts to bring in these different associates, is this really an attempt b attempt by the mueller team to put the screws to roger stone a little bit, see how much pressure they can put on roger stone and see if they can get him to cooperate? >> i think that's his assumption, but i think he believes the target remains donald trump. perhaps michael cohen himself made that mistake when he thought that any information or discussion they were having about him was largely to get to somebody like donald trump. maybe paul manafort had that same thing. they're all finding themselves at the receiving end of a v. the united states versus or a grand jury about it. in doing so, it looks more and more every day that perhaps roger stone is not being squeezed in order to speak against donald trump, but perhaps these people being brought in are being brought in because they're talking about the target now being roger stone. remember, mueller's probe is
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about whether or not there were american citizens who were conspireing with a foreign country to try to influence an election. wikileaks, back channels with american elections, a foreigner doing that, that sounds like roger stone is in the hot water. >> don't forget, the manhattan madam has the infamous list of people she procured for -- >> that could come in handy. wla laura and gloria, thank you for volunteering to come in. no subpoena necessary. president trump wasted little time slamming nfl players who pknelt during the national anthem last night. other players either raised their fists or stayed in the locker room. the president once again jumped into the fray, tweeting, of course, the nfl players are at it again, taking a knee when they should be standing proudly for the national anthem. numerous players from different teams wanted to show their
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outrage at something they're unable to define. they make a fortune doing what they love. white house correspondent kaitlan collins is live from new jersey right now, where the president is on vacation. kaitlan, what is going on here? why is the president once again fixated on this issue? obviously we saw in these preseason games a small number of players doing this, but the president seizing on this issue again. >> reporter: well, jim, it's a new football season, but the same president and same attacks on those players who do kneel during the national anthem. several doing so last night or raising a fist. it didn't take the president long to reply with those tweets this morning, criticizing them for doing so. once again, that same argument we saw from the president that first started last september during a rally. however, this morning the president said that he believes these players are unable to define what it is they're protesting. that's interesting given the president himself did so at the white house just two months ago. >> we have a great country. you should stand for our
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national anthem. you shouldn't go in a locker room when our national anthem is played. i'm going to ask all of those people to recommend to me, because that's what they're protesting, people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system. i understand that. i'm going to ask them to recommend to me people that were unfairly treated, friends of theirs or people they know about, and i'm going to take a look at those applications and if i find and my committee finds that they're unfairly treated, then we will pardon them or at least let them out. >> reporter: now, jim, that idea of having nfl players suggest people for the president to pardon is something they largely rejected, but you heard the president right there say it. he believes what they're protesting is that they're being treated unfairly by the justice system. so he clearly was able to articulate it. that's because they clearly articulated it. the president does realize what it is they are protesting when
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they kneel during the national anthem. but instead, the president sees this as a winning issue that he believes can rally his base, and it's likely he's going to keep these attacks up until the midterm elections. >> part of the culture wars over at the white house. kaitlan, football was not the only issue the president was tweeting about this morning. he also announced new tariffs against turkey in what was a pretty inflammatory tweet. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: yeah, this tweet coming this morning announcing they're going to double those steel and aluminum tariffs that are on turkey. the white house says that those tariffs are for national security reasons, but sources who speak with the president tell me that this stems from his frustration over their inability to secure the release of that detained american pastor in turkey. brunn s brunson has been detained for a year and a half on charges from turkey that he conspired in this coup in 2016, this attempted coup to overthrow the turkish
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president. u.s. officials say those charges are bogus and they've seen no evidence, no credible evidence that andrew brunson had anything to do with that. the vice president and secretary of state have been working for weeks to try to secure his release and bring him back home. those talks have largely broken down. the back and forth happening on a regular basis over the last few weeks, but not making any progress. though officials once believed they were close to securing his release, they do not feel that way now, and the president is clearly taking out his frustrations here by doubling those steel and aluminum tariffs. >> absolutely. and inflaming tensions with an ally who's very important in that region. kaitlan collins, thank you very much. the president's in-laws benefitting from the immigration program he constantly criticizes. we'll talk about the hip ypocri of all that. plus a judge carrying a plane around carrying asylum seekers deported by the trump administration. hear furious words coming from
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frustration appearing to be growing right now inside the trump administration with north korea. so far kim jong-un has seemingly ignored specific proposals on denuclearization while holding out for security assurances. north korea is also angry that sanctions haven't been dropped, saying that the united states is mobilizing mouthpieces to fabricate falsehoods about the nuclear issue. that statement coming from north korea. joining me now from chicago is congressman mike quigley. thanks for joining us. there seems to be a standoff
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here over north korea. i was there in singapore when i saw president trump and kim jong-un sign that piece of paper, that document committing the north koreans to some kind of path to denuclearization. does any of this surprise you? what do you make of this, some of this talk coming out of north korea? >> you know, i don't think any of this should surprise us, even under the best of circumstances. negotiating working with north korea has always been difficult. as you recall in 1994, i believe, and 2009, the north koreans made pretty extreme promises about denuclearization, which they later reneged on. i think what's troubling here is we have very little knowledge about the negotiations as they went on, and there were unilateral promises made by the trump administration that involved and impacted our allies there. so what exactly was the commitment? how do we follow up?
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that remains to be seen. >> and i want to ask you about some of this late breaking news regarding roger stone, the former trump confidant and adviser. one ally of stone's is defying a subpoena, as you may have heard in the last several minutes, from robert mueller. another one is getting a subpoena. another is actually testifying before a grand jury right now. the so-called manhattan madam, kristen davis. congressman, what do you make of all of these people, these contacts, these associates of roger stone coming into the cross hairs of the special counsel's investigation? what does this mean about roger stone? what can you tell us about roger stone, why he's so important in all of this. >> i think roger stone is very important because roger stone made himself important. he talked about being close to julian assange during the campaign. he bragged about it. he claimed to know that mr. podesta was next in the barrel. lo and behold, surely after
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those e-mails came out. he pulled back on that after the fact, but it's hard to do that. this is pretty important stuff if we're talking about conspireing with a foreign power to affect our democratic process. he claimed publicly to have that awareness and that knowledge. >> and devin nunes, as you know, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, told an audience at a republican fundraiser recently why he thinks they have to keep the majority in congress. he said if robert mueller won't clear the president, then, quote, we're the only ones. what do you make of those comments? what do they say about devin nunes and how he's been handling his position as the chairman of that very important committee that you sit on? >> yeah, i think it's a public acknowledgment of what anyone should have known all along. mr. nunes directed the house select committee on intelligence to tank the russia investigation
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and shut it down. they refused to subpoena key witnesses, at least 40. they refused subpoenas on all but one witness and went along with the white house on their gag orders so people didn't have to answer our questions. perhaps more important than all that, he unilaterally committed to and conducted investigations into our own government. so as dni coats said, the lights are blinking red. our democratic process is under attack by the russians. but chairman nunes let the russians off the hook and instead went after our own government and frankly continues to do the same. >> and how about the house speaker, paul ryan? we know he's leaving soon, leaving the scene soon. but do you think as one of his final acts as speaker of the house, does he need to remove devin nunes from leadership of the house intelligence
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committee, do you think? >> i think he should have done that a year ago. the only republicans i've seen really step up and speak honestly about the russia investigation and what has to take place are largely those members who are leaving office. if the speaker of the house wants to leave, showing he has that courage, this would be the first step, to take chairman nunes off that position and tell the white house we are an independent, separate branch of government. you are going to cooperate. we're going to call in these key witnesses. we're going to find out what happened. as important as that, we're going to secure our democratic process. >> and congressman, you mentioned the warning system blinking red with respect to russia. as you know, the democratic senator from florida, bill nelson, claimed earlier this week the russians had penetrated some of the voting systems in his state. now, i know you've looked into russian meddling as part of your role with the house intelligence
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committee. senator nelson up until this point hasn't really provided any evidence of this, but the florida governor rick scott, as you know, who's running against nelson for that senate seat, is asking that nelson provide some proof to back up his claim. what do you make of this back and forth between these two guys who are obviously running for a very critical senate seat? as you know from your position on the house intelligence committee, is there anything to this? do we think the russians have penetrated the state of florida's election systems, which obviously the state of florida, as we know, we only have to look back to the year 2000 s 2000, is a very critical state when it comes to national elections. >> it's hard to imagine the russians didn't attempt or successfully hack into the florida board of elections process. how do we know this? because we know that illinois was the first state in august two years ago, august of 2016. the russians hacked into the
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illinois state board of elections. we've been told by homeland security and others that that number of states is entsomewher between two dozen and 41 or 42. it's hard to imagine a big state like florida wasn't a target. as you know, a unified intelligence community has said that the russians hacked our democratic process, and they did it to favor one candidate over another. we tried -- an amendment i passed for the 2018 funding to secure $380 million to prevent this from happening again. that decimal point was in the wrong spot. the last time our democratic process and the electoral process was called into question after bush/gore and hanging c d chads, we spent $3.5 billion. my amendment on the house side failed on a partisan vote. we lost every single republican
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to try to fund at least another $380 million. mr. comey said they will be back. the fact of the matter is they never left. the russians are still attacking all our board of elections. i think individual candidates. >> okay. congressman, mike quigley, obviously something to keep our eye on. thanks for joming coming in andg us. a federal judge erupts at the trump administration after it deports a mom and daughter seeking asylum. why the judge ordered the plane they were on to turn around and threaten to hold attorney general jeff sessions in contempt. that's coming up. plus, the president has long railed against what's called chain migration, but his wife's parents just got citizenship using it. so what's the difference between his in-laws and countless others?
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conservative immigration think tank here in washington that favors stricter immigration policies. and raul reyes, a lawyer and immigration analyst. mark, let me ask you first. do you think the administration is going overboard with deportations and that this case illustrates that? >> no, it doesn't, because this kind of thing actually happens kind of frequently. it's a huge organization, homeland security, and wires get crossed. one of my analysts, in fact, used to be a prosecutor for the ins, used to be an immigration judge. he said it happened to him in one of his cases. you know, these things happen. they found out about it later. the people never even got off the plane. the whole thing about holding the attorney general in contempt and what have you, that's show boating by the judge because this is the kind of screw-up that frankly happens, and it was resolved. it's not even really a story. >> and raul, is this just a screw-up, or is this part of a larger problem with the administration when it comes to how it handles immigration on the border?
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>> well, sure, in my view, it does speak to a larger problem with this administration in two ways. number one, there is a great deal, a great lack of transparency and oversight in our immigration system. so you know, maybe these type of things do happen. maybe these so-called screw-ups do occur. the fact is most of them we never even hear about because of the way our immigration system is set up. the fact they happen here and there does not make them okay. in fact, these people, although they've gone through this strange situation, this woman whose pseudonym is carmen, they're actually the lucky ones because they have legal representation. their case is being picked up through the aclu and seems to be proceeding through the legal channels. second of all, this is problematic because the trump administration has come forth very strongly against asylum, which is a legal right that people have if they qualify. our last fiscal year, the united states only admitted a total of 20,000 people from all over the world. they only granted 20,000 people asylum.
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that's roughly equivalent to a small town. at a time when we have an unemployment rate of 3.9%, 6.5 million jobs going unfilled, why is this administration seeking to close off legal channels of immigration? >> and mark, i want to move to the issue of the first lady's parents being granted citizenship yesterday. obviously we congratulate the first family on her parents becoming u.s. citizens and being a part of this great country, but the president has come out against what he calls chain migration, family based immigration, repeatedly over the years. at one point putting this tweet out, saying chain migration must end now, saying people bring their whole family with them, who can be truly evil. how is it appropriate for the first lady to use chain migration? >> well, everybody is able to use it because the rules are still there. >> well, but the president wants to end that, mark. you know that. so why is it okay for the first lady to do it and all of these
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other people not able to do it? >> my point is everybody now is able to do it. if the rules change, then the first lady wouldn't be able to do it either. look, it's kind of like say the mortgage interest deduction. there are real arguments that's a bad idea. you know, when you fill out your taxes, deduct your mortgage interest, home mortgage interest from your income. there's arguments, sound arguments, i don't know where i fall on that, but there are sound arguments we should get rid of it. does that mean that if you believe in those arguments you should not take the mortgage interest deduction? it would be ridiculous. >> let me ask you this. >> the point is -- >> you're against this use of chain migration. do you think the first lady's parents should have been blocked from coming into the country? >> if we had changed the rules before then, yes. actually, wait, let me qualify that. because the bill that the president was promoting that actually almost passed in the house would not have prevented the first lady's parents from coming. it just would have not given them green cards. they would have been able to stay with a renewable visitor
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visa so they didn't end up going on medicare. in a sense, this specific example doesn't even highlight what the critics are trying to say, that it's hypocritical or ironic or something. it actually isn't. >> raul, do you see this as hypocritical? >> sure. you know, i think in theory, yes, it's easy to look at this and say it is hypocritical. i recall when president trump warned against chain migration in his last state of the union. obvious honestly, i wish melania trump's parents all the best. the reason chain migration is because is because it promotes assimilation in this country. it allows foreign nationals to cut ties with their home country. it allows immigrants to have economic success here, not being dependent on government assistance, because it allows them to create their own network here of friends, family, and relatives. finally, it's a plus for the united states because it allows the united states to attract the best talent from all over the
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world. if we are bringing in a top scientist or engineer but he's not able to sponsor his wife or maybe brother who's he's very close to, he's likely to not come. for all those reasons, i believe chain migration is good. i wish maine lane welania trump success in country. when we start closing off legal channels of immigration such as the so-called chain migration, all it does is incentivize illegal immigration, which i think we can all agree is not a good thing. >> all right. raul reyes and mark, that was a short period of time for a very interesting debate. thank you for joining us. coming up, a year since the charlottesville protest. spike lee in a new interview says the president is a bull horn for racism and says racists have a green light from the white house. plus, a fox news host tries to walk back her controversial comments that many critics are saying echo white supremacist rhetoric. what she said and the blowback next.
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see stark examples of how radically in some ways the country has changed. now, much of this is related to both illegal and in some cases legal immigration that, of course, progressives love. >> now, ingraham appeared to walk back or at least clarify those words on air last night after former kkk leader david duke publicly came out in support of her comments. >> a message to those who are distorting my views, including all white nationalists and especially one racist freak whose name i will not even mention, you do not have my support, you don't represent my views, and you are antithetical to the beliefs i hold dear. >> joining me now is s.e. cupp, a cnn political commentator and host of hln's "s.e. cupp unfiltered." many call those remarks blatantly racist. anthony scaramucci, the former white house communications director, called them
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un-american. you saw laura ingraham sort of forcefully try to walk that back in saying this was not about race, but you wrote an op-ed about this. what's your take on all of this? >> look, when everyone hears it the same way, the problem isn't we're distorting it. the problem is we heard you perfectly the first time. she was not ambiguous about the point she was trying to make. she made it in three, four different ways. finally she explicitly said that america's unrecognizable today because of both legal and illegal immigration. there's nothing to distort there. so when white supremacists get your meaning, when david duke gets your meaning, and indeed when, you know, critics get your meaning, i think she said it exactly how she wanted to the first time. >> and s.e., when laura ingraham comes out and says the second time that she disavows white nationalism, disavows david duke, though she didn't want to
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mention him by name in that second clip, what do you make of that denunciation? is that enough? i think i saw something about you said no take backsies or something on twitter about all this. >> yeah, you know, to say she was not talking about race is laughable. again, she was explicit about her -- the changing demographics. she wasn't talking about the country getting younger. she was talking about immigration, explicitly. you don't get to just say that's not what i meant, you're taking me out of context. we took you in context because you gave us plenty of it. the problem isn't, for me, laura ingraham per se. it's the millions of people who agree with her. if you leave a major city and step into any small town, rural community, or even a suburb, you will not have to look far or long to find someone who agrees with this. plenty of trump voters agree that people who don't look like them are the reason for all of their problems. now, some of that fear is
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rational, of course. but some of that fear is real. i think we need to start listening to people who have this sort of fear and loathing in this surgery and not pretend that laura ingraham is alone on an island in this belief. >> right. and s.e., some people use the phrase white nationalism. you hear this phrase thrown around a lot, instead of white supremacy. what to you make of that shift in language? because, you know, honestly, it wasn't that long ago in the news business we just called it white supremacy or white supremacist. now all the sudden there's this term white nationalism and white nationalists. is that just an attempt by some to try to mainstream hate speech and people who are just trying to divide americans and pit americans against americans? what do you think of that? >> yeah, it's an interesting point. there's long been an effort on the far, far right and in other, you know, racist circles to
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conflate rank racism with some kind of patriotism, some kind of love of country. the two in most people's mind, i think, are very different things. i think you can love this country and still love our diversity and still love immigration as a concept while maybe critiquing illegal immigration and some of the problems it's created. but i think calling it nationalism is that attempt to make this normalized, to make it sound like you just love your country a whole lot. and it's not the case. it's white supremacy. it's racism. and it's fear of the other. it's a fear that is stoked by this white house. it's courted, it's flirted with, it's winked at all the time. and certainly his favorite news network at fox news. again, i have to wonder if, you know, my friends at fox news, people like shep smith, people you know, i wonder if they're
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mortified by that. i wonder if they're uncomfortable with what she said. if so, i'd like to hear that. >> i think a lot of them are, s.e. honestly, i talked to my cle colleagues at fox, counterparts at fox all the time, and you do get that sense from talk to them, that they're frankly embarrassed by some of the things said in the later hours of their programming on that network. but s.e., thanks very much for that perspective. we appreciate your time. of course, congratulations on your move over to cnn. your show is coming over from hln to cnn starting august 25th on saturday evenings. it's going to be a great show. of course, s.e. bringing a diverse point of view to cnn where we have diverse points of view. thanks very much. >> thanks, jim. coming up, a new report details how u.s. officials scrambled to protect a nato deal from president trump. we'll have details straight ahead. imited for the rest of us. unlimited ways to be you. unlimited ways share with others.
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president trump getting tough on turkey tweeting that relations are not good. the president announced that he's doubling steel tariffs on turkey to 50%. the president also talking in that tweet about turkey's falling currency. this move by the trump administration is a result of a dispute over american pastor andrew brunson held for more than a year and a half on charges relate to go a koup attempt in turkey. let's bring in our cnn political adviser. turkey as you know is a major nato ally and partner, extremely important to the u.s. in that region. they maintain two military bases in that country. what do you see in this tweet from the president?
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what is he doing here and why is it important? >> i think we're going to see a continued escalation between the united states and turkey for one because neither presidents like to back down when publicly cornered and, two, because we're probably not going to give erdogan what he wants which is the extradition of a muslim cleric living in the united states. what we are definitely going to see is president erdogan continue to abuse human rights, human rights abuse did not start with pastor brunson, it won't end with him. turkey has been consolidating power rolling back press freedoms, jailing journalists for years. erdogan will continue doing that regardless of president trump and his tariffs. our trade policy is going to take a massive hit. president trump issued these tariffs, the original rational was that steel and aluminum imports were a risk to national security. turkey represented 2.8% of imports last year. its very clear that he's misusing his tariff authority
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and the real question is how will turkey retaliate. we have an important military to military relationship with turkey. we have troops on the ground and military assets. erdogan could choose to retaliate by making those assets vulnerable. we'll see people like vladimir putin try to take advantage of the schism in the relationship. we know he called erdogan earlier and tried to move turkey closer to russian and further from the united states. >> and interesting to see all this happening between two leaders who would maybe think might be more cozy than what we're seeing right now given the president's friendliness with some undemocratic leaders around the world. thank you very much. we appreciate all those incites. robert mueller's focus on roger stone is growing as one ally gets a subpoena and another defies a subpoena. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely.
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