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following breaking news. an air craft has crashed near seattle washington after mechanic stole it from seattle's main airport. the aircraft took off without authorization, and without passengers friday night. the person at the controls of the plane was an airline mechanic and has been identified as a 29-year-old man from pierce county, washington. according to officials.
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it is believed the mechanic's lack of flying skills, led to the crash. normal operations of the airport were interrupted for a time but have since resumed. let me highlight the key fact for you once again. pierce county sheriff telling us this was not a terrorist incident. yes, war planes were scrambled. got to the plane minutes after it took off. but this was apparently not a terrorist incident. it was a suicide mission. you are seeing now, video of that plane. and, you saw that maneuver. that, that is very hard to pull off. just, just above the waters off the coast of see yacattle. whether or not the mechanic, then pilot knew what he was doing. got lucky, skilled at flying. we don't know. john waldron shot the video captured what you are seeing. about to see f-15s on your screen. there they are. john, run us again, please for people who haven't heard what you told us earlier. everything you saw from the
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beginning. >> you bet, cyril. thank you for having me here with you tonight. i decided to go down to, chambers bay for a nightly walk. like i often do. and i noticed, i noticed a couple f-15s flying around which isn't uncommon in the area with mccord air force base close by. then i noticed a twin engine turbo prop air craft flying around. two f-15s appeared to be chasing it for lack of better if i just kind of bluf it oew it off. maybe practicing for an air show or something like that. who knows. so, i started to capture video, just because i thought it was, kind of bizarre. and i continued to watch. then all of a sudden. i noticed. >> did you understand what you were seeing? did you understand what you were watching at the time? >> honestly, i thought they were practicing for an air show. to be perfectly honest. i had no idea at the time that the aircraft had been stolen from sea-tac.
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i had no idea what was going on at all, honestly. >> but the f-15s. were they not moving in a menacing way? >> they looked to me like they were chasing him away -- but i, i couldn't really tell from where. they were over, an area we call fox island which is in the background of the video. which is, fairly populated. i notice that there were, moving away from that area. they flew over it briefly. and then, headed back to where i was at, shooting the video at. bumt, but -- you know they weren't flying fast. they were, they were keeping pace with this -- with this other aircraft. but, looked to me like they were chasing him down. i thought this is really odd. kept the video rolling. he pulled the stick back. and, did a complete loop in this aircraft. >> yeah, watching the maneuver right now. really impressive. from a technical standpoint. it's, it's stunning. >> absolutely, yeah, i couldn't
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believe he recovered. and, luckily he did. and, if i had to guess, i would say maybe he was no less than 100 feet above the water. but i was probably, i don't know. that was probably, a mile away from, from where i was at. and i thought, god, he better pull up or he is going to crash. i was prepared to honest leave run and take cover. i didn't know what was going on. if he had lack of flying skills. or if he was just showing all. but i, i got a little worried for a second. and then he pulled -- pretty much straight up. and kind of at an angle. and almost stalled the air craft. somehow, he, he got it leveled back off. and then made his way down toward -- the island. i turned away for a second. turned back. and he's -- he's in what appeared to be probably -- a 30 degree dive towards ketron island. turned awe to watay to watch th.
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turned back again. saw the explosion. saw a bright, pinpoint area of flame. and the smoke. i thought, oh, my god. i think he just crashed. >> yeah. we just saw that second video that you shot with the plume of smoke. in the distance. and that, you were absolutely right. because we are also seeing, screen right. what that crash site looks like now. flam flames, middle of the night. not in the middle of the night. 11:00 p.m., west coast time. we can't get good visuals on the place. but that, that is absolutely what you were looking at. what you saw was a plane crashing. >> yeah. >> what kind of place is ketron island? >> one more time? >> what kind of place is ketron island? >> it's slightly -- residential area. >> it is residential? >> but very, very, very lightly populated. most of of the homes that i am aware of are on the, the western side of the island which would
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be to the right of the smoke plume. so, not many people on that island. just a few like resort cabins and whatnot out there. i have never ben on there. but just from what i have been told folks that have been. >> yeah. and the good news is, we are told by the, pierce county sheriff, that there was nobody killed in the crash on the ground. so nobody killed in the plane. other than the mechanic, of course, who was flying the plane. and nobody killed on the ground. so only one person died of this. this is this mechanic. again, a 29-year-old. pierce county share riff telling us they're working background on him now. this was a suicidal mission. john, without your video, we would not have nearly the understanding of the story that we do now. this is just amazing stuff. and -- and did you -- did you speak to the people around you? did they, did anybody else have an inkling of what was going on? >> you know, there were -- people were kind of winding down, getting ready to leave. because they closed the mark at
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9:00. so, i spoke to age gentleman, vy briefly. and -- he said, boy that doesn't look good. i said, no. you know? it could be. air show practice. maybe they're doing a fake bombing run or something. they have got, explosives guys on the ground. but i said that would be really odd for that island. because, there is nothing out there. no reason to be out -- doing anything like that. you would do that -- more toward a military base which is, like another ten miles east of that location. so, just -- it just didn't dawn on me what happened until i got home and looked it up on google. it was just all over the internet. at that point. i just, my heart sank. and it, it truly goes out, to him and his family. and -- once the reality of what happened set in. i thought, i witness aid plane crash. i have never seen anything like this in my life. still in shock. >> well, what you witnessed. you saw a plane, being hijacked.
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of a plane being stolen. you saw f-15th. u.s. air force being scrambled. to try to avert disaster. but, at the time, which is what tran spires from what you are telling me at that precise moment in time it wasn't, it wasn't entirely clear to you what you were looking at. there was possibility that it was something harmless and innocuous. >> correct. you know it is not untypical to see military aircraft flying around the area up here. fighter jets. a large military population in pierce county. fort lewis mccord. not untypical to see aircraft. f-15s flying around during maneuvered and practicing. with the current state of the world to protect our homeland. but the location they were doing it. seemed very bizarre. for mccord.normal flight path - there is another small airport across the wulter that erwater the frame of the video.
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initially thought they were going to try to land there. this is just really odd. of course, everything unfolded that you now see now. that, just, still blows my mind if i can't bleach whelieve what witnessed. >> did you at any point, entertain the possibility it was what it turned out to be. so, in other words, potentially. extremely dangerous situation. if so, did you wonder, whether there might be -- a target for, for any one flying a plane wanting to do harm to people on the ground? >> you know, i didn't exclude it could be possibly a terrorist act. especially with the way things are in the world now. but, then i kind of blue that off after a few second once i got back to my car. because there would be nothing on ketron island to really attack. like i said before. you know it is very -- it is very sparsely populated out there. a lot of vacation cabins. i dent know how many.
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it just wouldn't be, a target for, for anyone, to attack for any reason. there is nothing of value out there. that would ben fit -- benefit a terrorist. so i just briefly. i thought about it. then i just blew it off. chalked it up to a hot shot pilot honestly. you know. then of course i get home and find out what happened. i thought, oh, my god. you know? unbelievable. >> absolutely. as is your, as is your video. john, thank you for your time today. we will speak to you again. and your, your eyewitness account of, what happened, at that precise moment has been invaluable to, to help us gain a better understanding of, of this story what happened. john, thank you very much. i wish you well. i also note that you were -- that you were, you have nerves of steel. turned around to, to look at the sunset. in the middle of all this. you quite impressed me with that. >> i did. i guess there is, you just, there is always, in the world's
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darkest moment, i learned that, there is always a ray of hope. maybe that is why i was drawn back to look at the sunset. i don't know. because just, just three second later i turned back around, and, of course, this tragedy struck. so, that's, that's just how i look at life. be positive. and be strong. because tomorrow's never promised. >> absolutely. absolutely. what you saw scud have becould dangerous to you and the people in the area. you've speak eloquent leap of the moment. john, thank you, pleasure having you on. we'll speak to you again. >> thank you, cyril. >> a short break, back with more onrapidly -- developing story when we come back. i visualize travel rewards. i receive travel rewards. going new places. (oh!) going out for a bite. going anytime. rewarded!
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an aircraft crashed near seattle, washington, after a mechanic stole it from the main airport. the plane went down on ketron island. 40 mild or 65 kilometer thousands, southwest of the airport. the aircraft took off without authorization or passengers. the person at the controls of the plane. this is what we know. that person identified as a 29-year-old horizon air mechanic from pierce county, washington, according to officials who say they are doing background on him. it is believed that the mechanic's lack of flying skills. and in other words he didn't know how to fly the plane well. that's what led to the crash the he knew enough to take off. not enough to land it. the pierce county sheriff says this was not a terrorism related incident. this was a suicide flight. horizon air issued a statement following the crash. here is, horizon air chief
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operating officer constance van mulen. >> good evening, i am the horizon air chief operating officer. i am sorry to share with you this evening that approximately 8:00 p.m. one of our q-400 airplanes made an unauthorized takeoff from sea-tac airport. we believe it was taken by a single horizon air employee and no other passengers or crew were on board. shortly thereafter, it crashed near ketron island by south tacoma. our hearts are with the family of the individual aboard as well as all of our alaska air and horizon air employees. we'll provide more information as it becomes available. >> analyst josh campbell joins us on the phone from corona island, california. josh, it seems fortunate, if we believe this story that indeed the mechanic is this was a
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suicide flight. the mechanic wanted to kill himself. if this is true. we are fortunate that the mechanic didn't have the intention to harm others. i was just discussing with one of our earlier guests, that german wings flight three years ago. where the pie lot was depressed. he had mental health issues. and he threw everybody on the plane. 150 people total in the plane into the side of a mountain. and killed everybody. this clearly was not the case here. you nailed it. look at the video. see acrobatics. see strange maneuvering this person was doing in the aircr t aircraft. this could have been worse. we dodged a bullet. think what could have tragically transpired in a situation like this. it is troubling. i know as a former investigator. there are two aspects to any worst case scenario. act of terrorism, or act of a person that is freeing to act out a grievance. it comes done to aspiration, and capability. so, if this person is aspiring
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to cause harm, aspiring to cause a mass loss to life and do they have a cape built fee to do so. do they have access to weapons? do they have access to some type of harmful device that would then allow them to fulfill their aspirations. here it appears they have capability. he was able to somehow make his way into the cockpit of an air craft and take off and get this vehicle airborne, but it doesn't appear and again there is a lot that we don't know right now. it doesn't appear that he had that aspiration to actually cause a massive loss of life. so, that is the bullet that we dodged right here. this doesn't mean that we are out of the woods. this will be a lengthy investigation. national transportation safety board on their way now with one of the go teams. probably locally. back in washington, d.c. headed to the site to start the investigation. they will be looking to deter men how did this happen. how did this person gain this access into the aircraft. and what, systems do we need how to look at and protocols and ensure this doesn't happen again. the last thing that we all have
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to keep in mind. those in the national security space, intelligence community, our foreign adversaries are looking at incidents to deter men what are the weak points. what are the weak links. if they see some one, a mechanic, was able to get access to, to a vehicle that could have been used as a weapon. that will be something that they will try to probe. that will be an approach on the ground. locally. indeed, internationally. >> air ports have, such a thing as airport police. here is what i am wondering. what means does an airport have to stop a plane that goes rogue. they must know it is not a pilot. a mechanic in the cockpit. they have to know before the plane left. >> that's correct. t there are a number of layers involved. securing a compound, people from coming in. a lot is looking outward.
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ensuring outside threats aren't able to make their way inside to a secure area. inside to tan airport. or presumably you expect everyone in the secure space has been screened, physically, or, you know has gone through, lengthy background investigation. if you break it down into employees and passengers. every passenger aboard a commercial air skraflt will undergo some type of screening for devices, weapons and that physical screening. employees as well. psychological, mechanic would be less so than a pilot. some one able to pie lot an aircraft with souls on board. none theless it would be involved in a thorough background investigation. if you are a, seattle tacoma police officer there at the airport. you know it is not necessarily, front of mind that you are worried that shomone thome one d is going to go rogue. if that happens, very little you can do. this case does pose an interesting challenge. talking to someone there on the ground. locally in washington state.
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that is what type of jurisdictional issue are we looking at here. obviously it appears that the person, that, you know, was responsible for this is, almost certainly deep ceased in this crash. so it is not like there is a prosecution that is on deck. but it raises serious questions. a crimes aboard the aircraft, type of statute which would involve federal authorities. an issue involving the security, at seattle tacoma international airport. jurisdiction would lie with the individuals responsible for securing the plane. or is jurisdiction does that lie with the site of the crash. pierce county. i will say that, you know it has ben very interesting for me as someone who wears two hats now. former investigator. some one now obviously trying to analyze and unpack a lot of the issues. in the press. and that is how aggressive the sheriff's department has been. releasing a lot of the information. it is pretty incredible. >> what do you make of that? >> questioning whulgt they' ini releasing. more aggressive than the ntsb,
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federal officials, those at the airport, military would like. it's been so quick. information out there. we saw a reporter early where the sheriff's department was saying there was no one on the ground impacted by this. i don't know how that is true. how that could be possible in such a short period of time. not questioning it. may turn out to be the case. these are incidents where it is all hand on deck. you want coordination. as of right now. i don't think we have an answer to who has jurisdiction over this. >> you raise an interesting point. chilling one in fact. when you said we dodged a bullet. because, clearly, this shows that there is a loophole that can, be exploited. sure, a lot of things have to align. sure this is not something you expect. that's precisely, what, what the law enforcement, screening, security, security protocol is there to prevent. incidents look this. >> think about it. i know in the fbi case agents on the mh 370 aircraft. missing airplane. three american citizens on board. american nexus. the fbi opened an investigation.
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i can tell you two aspects. looking at both those in the cockpit or anyone in vicinity able to manipulate an aircraft. obviously going to want to, dive into all the people. their background. their lives. deter mmine who did it. structural integrity of the aircraft. you look at. comes done to the person. talk about dodging a bullet. obviously we don't have passengers on board. would have been nightmare scenario if the person took off without passengers. investigators will say with certainty they know who is responsible. then back to the investigative piece. what was the person's psychology. how was this person able to do this. what was in the background missed. # they will determine are the best practices here, to ensure we can look at, again across the map to other airports. other airlines, other mechanics. something with, that is, specific to this person. that we can then compare with a
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larger pre fiofile to ensure th doesn't happen again. >> josh, stay with me. couple things. first of all, i want to pass on this confirmation we are getting the nof not a whole lot of doubt given the pictures. mechanic was flying the plane. has, has indeed been killed. in the crash. so, that, that, for one is confirmed. and, two i want to play, what some of the witnesses -- have been saying. >> we were watching the sunset. and -- we like, saw all of the planes. coming over us. and, then -- so, i was in their hot tub. and we were -- like, and weep were just hanging out. and then we heard that, that, boom. and, yeah. >> yeah, what did you think of that? >> we didn't know what it was. >> yeah. >> we thought it was something going on with mccord. that's our first thought. so we were sitting in the lounge chairs, watching the sunset. and then we saw the plane.
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jets behind it. thought, they're doing something at mccord. so late at night. then we heard a third jet. we were kind of like, sunset was done. went up to the house. they were, putting everything away. down at the pool. and that's when they heard the boom. and i didn't hear that. but, so then -- my husband put it altogether. turned it to the news. that was the plane. okay. we take a quick break. you are watching cnn. breaking news coverage on this rapidly developing story continues right after this. you always pay your insurance on time.
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now more businesses, in more places, can afford to dream gig. comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. breaking news on cnn. an aircraft crashed near seattle washington after a mechanic stole it from seattle's main airport. let me update you if you are just joining us. the plane went down on ketron island. in fact the moments before it crashed were filmed. by somebody we spoke to moments ago. john waldron, he was standing out there looking at the sunset. when, when he call the this. at the moment when he was filming this. he didn't know what he was looking at. turns out we know now. that a mcca mechanic stole thise
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from the seattle international airport. and essentially joy rided it, or joy rode it and crashed the plane into ketron island. there was crucially, to understand the story, there was nobody on the plane. and we are also told from, from the pierce county share riff department, that, that, nobody was harmed on impact other than the person who was flying the plane. in other word the mechanic. this was not a terror attempt. it was not a terror incident. not a terrorist story. this was apparently a suicide flight. a former accident investigator. for the federal aviation administration. he joins us on the phone from albuquerque, new mexico. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, cyril. thank you for having me. this is -- this is obviously very unusual. and -- and i would, caution as to whether or not this was a -- a legitimate suicide.
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we, we don't know. obviously when they get the, the black box they will analyze the input and so on. he may just have lost it. while trying to, trying to do some sort of exhibitionist. there is so much we don't know about this. couple things i would add. on the -- early warning of these kinds of things. mechanics are authorized to tax the aircraft. there would have been very little warning. that, that the -- controllers would have had. at, at, sea-tac. he could have contacted ground control. just told them he is going to be taxiing the aircraft. then of course he takes the active, or, could have taken off from a taxi way, with that kind of aircraft.
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and i understand it is difficult. do they have any means, whether there is control tower. law enforcement. on the runway. anything they can use when a plane has gone rogue and on the ground. >> like i said if he was talking to ground controllers, telling them. these are people, air traffic controllers. handle the taxi's traffic. he could tell them, look, repositioning aircraft. i want to go out to such and such a taxi way. and take off from there. what i am saying. would have been very difficult for the controllers, to, to scramble, perhaps, they, they, crash fire rescue truck. they could have rammed with a large vehicle to stop it. if they knew this would happen. they probably wouldn't have had time to react. he would have been authorized to move that aircraft along the
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taxiway. other than things like employee assistance programs. and alcohol detection programs. most mechanics do have to take peer odd alcohol and drug test thousands. once somebody decide. a mccannic they will fake an aircraft. they are sophisticated enough to talk to the ground controllers. quite quickly get the aircraft out into a position where it could take off. i don't think, i don't think they would have had much time to react. before you move tult other point. we will get to it. if i can stop you for a second. would that be fair to say, that that is a glaring vulnerability in the system. or too harsh? clearly, a vulnerability.
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do they screen for mental health? not per se. interviews asking about all sorts of things. this is not regulated by the faa. as a mental health aspect of mechanics. now, pie lots controllers, that's a different story. but, but the mechanics, are not, not that closely r lly regulate. >> essentially, allen, what your are telling me, no one foresaw, with all of the security planning that goes especially post 9/11. no one foresaw that something look this could happen. that somebody, a mechanic, pretending to just, have to taxi down the runway to maybe reposition the plane, would then
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manage to take off and would use that as cover to take off? just, no one ever thought of that possibility team. what you are telling me? no one acted on it? >> i think that is certainly a fair characterization. that's not something that, that, the government has addressed yet. now they have, increased security for people, trying to get into the airport, you know the fences and so on. they have been beefed up. there are cameras, so on, that most 9/11, much more, much more elaborate than, than, before. and we have all seen what happens, for passengers and even employees trying to, get through security. at, at airports. no, i think that is a fair characterization, cyril, no one has really considered this yet. and as far as i know. in the states, there have been other examples of mechanics taking air craft, in other countries. and, and, because they had a grievance against the company and crashing them and so on. >> there has been or haven't
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been other instances of that? >> there have been -- and, off the top of my head i can't name the countries or the airlines. primarily because they had a grievance against the company. at this point. like i said earlier. i am an aviation psychologist. not a therapist. i am not sure this is intentional suicide. that's why they will have to get the black boxes. try to assess whether or not he flew the aircraft into the woods, i guess is where it impacted. >> tell me why you doubt that? somebody who -- takes off. on an empty plane. not a pilot. must have some idea that he may not be able to land it.
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is somebody who doesn't intend to live? clearly he was doing air battic type maneuvers. we don't know what his flying background. many mechanics have pilots' licenses, cyril. he may have had experience in flying. if it looked to me like from the videos that we were shown. putting on an exhibition. looked like someone that couldn't wait to die. took the aircraft off. flew it straight into the ground. or, there was no unelse aboard, unlike the german wings situation. where that co-pilot. had a long history of mental problems, but it was unreported. to his employers. and german wings. here, we don't know. it looked to me like this was an, some sort of ex-big.
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the investigation is beginning. the commune fee will be looking at his background. did he have family problems, drug problems, unreported drug problems. clearly if he had a drug problem, the company would have removed him. the faa would have removed his license. >> rightable. you are alug flowing for the possibility some one that may have wanted to impress himself and others and perhaps expected to land the plane again. that's worth bringing up and reminding our viewers. though we have been told. >> we can't, yeah, cyril, we can't discount that quite yet.
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knowing full well he would lose his license and go to jail for a long time. maybe he has a family problem. or, unreported, alcohol or, or even, behavioral problem. that we just don't just don't know, didn't know about. obvious lease the ceo of the company was on. i'm sure that, that they do have screening procedures. clearly this guy got through the procedures. >> allen, more questions for you. talk to you on the back of the break. thank you. >> okay, sir. thank you. ♪
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an aircraft crashed near seattle, washington after a mechanic stole it from the main airport. the plane went down on ketron, island, 40 miles, 65 kilometers southwest of airport. took off without passengers. the person at the controls of the plane has only been identified so far as a 29-year-old horizon air mechanic from washington. according to officials. it's believed that the mechanics lack of flying skills led to the crash. he is confirmed to have died in the crash. the pierce county share riff says this was not a terrorism related incident. earlier, horizon air, chief
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operating officer offered a statement about the crash. >> good evening. i'm constance vonn much. e -- von muehlen. at 8:00 p.m., one of our q 400 airplanes made an unauthorized takeoff from sea-tac. taken by a single employee and no other passengers or crew were on board. shortly thereafter, it crashed near ketron island by south tacoma. our hearts are with the family of the individual aboard. as well as all of our alaska air and horizon air employees. we will provide more information as it becomes available. let's bring in mary schiavo, joining us by phone from charleston, south carolina. we have been following this over an hour. ari, tell me everything that we
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know know, what leaps out at you first? >> there was one thing i am watching the footage of this mechanic flying. and when you first start, when you first start student out flying one of the hardest things to try to do is, to do coordinated turns. and when you turn the plane. it's not like turning a vehicle. y [ indiscernible ] the rudder, the rotors, the turn, a graceful turn. he did a coordinated turn. you know, could he have done it by accident? sure. but i dent thon't think so. i'm convinced this person has some flying training, some flying ability. and knows a plane extremely well as a mechanic. you know, the flap lefrlvers.
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how to gear levers, gear up and all that. but when i saw the one turn, and, knowing what you know students look like when they first start flying and how hard it is to get used to the coordinated turn. i thought he had, had some flying lessons. >> okay. so, to be clear, and in layman's terms for somebody who doesn't know planes as well as the you do. you are saying that tells you it is unlikely to be somebody who just got lucky, right? >> when they go to turn the plane, they turn the yolk. meaning they turn the layman's version, the steering wheel if you will. but in, but you also have to use the foot pedals, you have to use the, you know turn the rudder, you coordinate that turn. and, the reason, of course, the centrifugal force, force on the plane aren't like on a car.
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that is a very common mistake. first time out of the box when students start flying. that's one of the first things they have to get used to. the one turn we could see clearly on the video that that gentleman shot. it was a coordinated turn. it's hard to get lucky on that. i don't know. i think he had some training. >> mary, we have got more information. i want your analysis on this. we now have some of the radio transmissions from the control tower at the airport. apparently the plane. so again, what you are about to hear, we believe, we know, is a conversation between the control tower, and the plane. listen to this. >> all right, this is captain bill, congratulations, you did that, now, let's try to land that airplane safely, not hurt anybody on the ground. >> all right. now, tell me, i don't know man, i don't know. i don't want to. i was kind of hoping i was going to be it, you know? >> mary, first of all, you heard all that, right?
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>> i heard that. >> okay. so the control tower, first of all, cool, calm, collected. very calm. that tone of voice as they're speaking to, the captain, they're certainly not berating him. not threating him. at least not in that 16-second clip that we got and played you. they are just trying to assuage him and say, let's land this, okay, let's do this safely. what we heard was somebody who appears, appears, to be just enjoying the thrill of this. >> yep. right. just the thrill of it. obviously very, not, obviously, it sounded to me like he was proud of himself that he was able to do a loop. which is an air show maneuver. by the way, planes that do that, arobatic planes that do that. had some of that, at the university where i taught, those are planes especially made to do the kind of maneuvers. this is a, this plane, a q 400 is a remake of something called
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the dash 8. it first started making, oh, boy like, 30 years ago. it's not built to do this. so for this person to do literally this maneuver a loop -- you know, and then in layman's terms, a loop-de-loop. he was proud he had didn't. he must have been exposed to it. he knew he did something pretty difficult. that's what it sound like. the tower did a good job trying to talk him down. >> we don't know at what point exactly during the flight that con ver station took pla conversation took place. i want to play it again. listen to the end, what the mechanic answers. listen to this. >> all right, rich, this is captain bill, congratulations. you did that. now let's try to land that airplane safely. not hurt anybody on the ground. >> all right. now, tell me, i don't know, man, i don't know! i don't want to. i was kind of hoping that was
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going to be it, you know? >> stow yo you heard it, the wo the end of the audio recording. i was hoping this was going to be it. >> well that's right. but he didn't say, i don't know how to land. he didn't say i can't land. he didn't say, you know, i'm not capable, you know. so this is it. i can't land it. he said he was hoping that's it. sounded to me like someone didn't know if he was going to be able to do the loop. clearly had flying ability thousands. i would think if you had no way of knowing how to land, you might have said, nope, sorry, can't do that. because he dedidn't sound hosti the air traffic controller. didn't sound like he would come around and take out the tower. you know, i just think it sound like somebody who knew enough to know that was a pretty cool trick. aerobatic planes are special planes, you know, the u.s.
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aerobatic team uses very special planes, made in germany. >> all right. >> this is not that. >> mary, thank you so much for your expertise. it is great to have you with us even as we get that audio. i think there's more that we can try and parse in those words. we'll do that after this break. stay with us. >> ok.
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. incredible and scary story coming out of seattle, washington, area after a mechanic stole it from the area's main airport. the maine went down about 40 miles or 65 kilometers southwest of the airport. you see it on your map. the plane took out without authorization and without passengers, thank goodness. he was a airplane mechanic who stole the plain. he's said to have died in the crash. the pierce county sheriff says that this was not a terrorism-related incident. in fact, the sheriff characterized this as a suicide
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. thank you for joining us. we're following this breaking news right now. an aircraft has crashed near seattle, washington, this after a mechanic stole it from seattle's main airport. the plane went down on key tron island which is southwest of the airport. the aircraft took off without authorization. thankfully there were no passengers on the aircraft when it took off. the person at the controls of the plane has only been identified as a 29-year-old horizon airline mechanic from washington. this is a video of him flying
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this q-400 that he stole from an internarnlt. he is confirmed to have died in the ensuing crash. pierce county sheriff says this is not a terrorism-related incident. we also just received some of the radio transmissions from the four and the train. this is a conversation between the airplane tower and the pilot flying this plane. >> all right. populations, you did that. now, lisa try to land that airplane safely and not hurt anybody on the ground. >> all right. now, damn it. i don't know, man, no know. i don't want to. i was kind of hoping that would be i would, you know. >> earlier the chief operate officer issued a statement about the crash. >> good evening. i'm constance van buren, the chief operating officer. i'm sorry to share with you this evening that at approximately
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8:00 p.m. one of our airplanes made an unauthorized takeoff from sea-tac airport. we believe it was taken by a single horizon air employee and that no other passengers or crew were on board. shortly thereafter it crashed near ketron island by south tacoma. our hearts are with the family of the individual aboard and as well as our employees. we will provide more information as it becomes available. >> we've been hearing from eyewitnesss. listen as this family recalls what they saw. >> we were watching the sun set and we like saw all the planes coming over utt and then -- coming over us so i was in the hot tub and we were like and we were just hanging out and then we heard that boom, and, yeah.
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>> what did you think of that? >> we didn't know what it was. >> yeah. >> we thought it was something going on with mccore. that's our first thought. we were sitting in lounge chairs, then we saw the maine, then the jets going right behind it. my thoughts were they're doing something out over there. then we heard a third jet and we kind of were -- sunset was done. went up to the house. putting everything away down at the pool and that's when they heard the boom. i didn't hear that but -- so then my husband kind of put it all together. it was like, you know, he turned it to the news or something and he's like that was the plane. >> let's bring in mary, cnn's aviation analyst. mary, we're now starting to really flesh out and understand more about this story.
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we don't know. we don't have the identification of the mechanic but we know he was 29 years old. they're checking into his background. the sheriff department tells us this was a suicide flight. we heard that conversation between the control tower and the flight. you also saw the video. you're learning a lot from that. it seems to me the biggest take away at this stage was we were extremely, extremely lucky. >> well, that's right. extremely lucky and i say, i mean, fortunate that this person -- well, he said himself, he thought that was going to be it after he did the loop. but very fortunate that there was no one on the ground apparently where the plane eventually crashed. i mean, it's very fortunate in a lot of ways. in some ways, this is the way the system works. we have been open to this vulnerability for so long. there was a lot of discussion about this after september 11, 2001. granted, that's a long time ago.
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people, i know, people 21 were five years old back then. it's kind of faded from our memories but there were skugs about, you know, the fbi looked at everybody at the airports then, who were the mechanicings, who were the people working, putting parcels and cleaning the plane. who were all these people, the tense of thousands of people that go to airports every day but do not go through security. so that will reopen this question. but again, as far as a mechanic goes, you're trained, you're an a and p mechanic, you're trained to fix and literally know how everything on the airplane works. if you're authorized, if you have this training, you are allowed to taxi -- it's called run and taxi -- you're allowed to run and taxi that plane around the airport. there's not much to stop you. there's nothing to stop you. once the plane is on and you're
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running, if you choose to move to the runway and take off, there's not much anyone can do to stop you. >> i think a lot of people will be very, very surprised that that is all it takes to get somebody who has not had all the screaming of a pieltd to suddenly be controlling in the cockpit of an airplane on a runway. i think a lot of people are going to be surprised to hear that is all that it takes. >> well, and we forget. i mean, there have been incidents and accidents before where taxiing mechanics have by accident -- wasn't intentional -- have run airplanes off the taeksway. i think there was one in florida, maybe a southwest plane about three or four years ago. >> this is a totally different order of magnitude. >> right. exactly. but we forget that there are people on the airfield who can, you know, literally have total access to all the aircraft,
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equipment. and they don't have an faa medical certification, which is the way a lot of ways you can check if somebody has a medical or a mental problem, it comes out on your physical, when you're a pilot, you have to have what's called an areman's medical and on that, you muss disclose by law to the federal aflgs administration whether you have -- take any drugs for depression, if you have any psychotic issues, really, you have to disclose to the faa almost any drug that you're talking about that's where you find that out. well, mechanics don't have air men medicals. that's the difference. >> i'm going to look at this with you at the same time. the videos of the utah most importance right now because what i've shown to you until now
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has given you clues as to what kind of skill level the mechanic had. i'm not sure whether you can see this but this is showing the -- what have you learned from this? what do i bleen from the videos? >> several things. first of all, he took a twin turbo-prop plane. the easiest thing to fly or at least what you start on, there's debate on b what's the easiest thing to fly. but you start out on a single engine aircraft where the landing gear does not retract. you take off, only one engine. all you need to know is the speed on which you can pulling back the yolk, rotate an the plane gets airborne. here you've got two engines, this person knew how to start and coordinate the engines, have them at coordinated engine power so it would fly at least at certain points straight and level. from the video i see, the landing gear is retracted, so
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properly, you know, stowed the landing gear, which would have been necessary to come out of that loop that he performed, because the gear would have had so much drag. i -- you know, it's hard to do that, anyway. and by the way, to do air battics, you have to have special aerobatic training and aerobatic license and an aerobatic aircraft. so that was very difficult. so i learned from that, from the coordinated the twin engines, stowed the landing gear, performed a very difficult air show maneuver and then talked to the air traffic controller and didn't say he could not land. just said he didn't expect to come out of the loop alive. >> he said i thought this was going to be it. >> right. >> as you were speaking, i was just recalling the last couple of incidents where mental health and just somebody going rogue is either the factor or a possible
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factor in these accidents, and this one didn't have deaths but -- apart from the mechanic, but if you think back to the germanwings flight three years ago where the pilot had mental health issues and slammed the plane into a mountain, killing 1 50e people with him, of course we haven't elucidated that yet, the different possibilities on why that happens. there are big question marks. but there are parts to suggest that the pilot may have gone rogue. there have been a number of instances in the last few years where we have seen people just going rogue and finding loopholes in the security system. >> that's right. because so much of the system is based on your initial qualification. once you get that initial medical license, that's where so much emphasis is placed. you have to renew your medical every year.
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we tend to rely on once you're in a system and plating the system -- now, remember, he had an amp license, a power plant license. once hired for the job he will tend to assume that things operate normally and you're going along just fine. i have to say that recording didn't sound normal to me. maybe he had some sort of a break but it didn't sound normal, normal discussion. >> yeah. and i suspect we'll be finding out more about that. the fbi is the lead on that investigation, the ntsb will be there in the morning. it's just past 90s now. mayor eye ski afteros, thank you very much. i want to tell you more about the video. the longest and the clearest one that we've been running since the beginning of the show. earlier i spoke with the man who filmed that video. eyewitness john wal hydrogen. he captured what you've been
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seeing and supplied information to ammists like mary on exactly what was going on. >> thank you for having me here tomorrow. i decided to go to chambers bay for a nightly walk like i often do and i noticed a couple of f-15 as flying around, which isn't uncommon in this area. then i noticed a twin engine turbo problem aircraft flying around and the f 15 seemed to be chasing it for lack of a better -- i just kind of blew it off. who knows, maybe they're practicing for an air show. i started to capture video just because because i thought it was kind of bizarre. i continued to watch and all of a sudden -- >> did you understand what you were seeing? did you understand what you were watching at the time? >> honestly, i just -- i thought they were practicing for an air show. to be perfectly honest.
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i had no idea that the airport had been stole fren sea-tac. i had no idea at all honestly. >> but the f-15s, were they not moving in a menasing way? >> they looked like them chasing him away but i cooperate really tell from where. they were over an air we call fox island in the background of the video, which is thoroughly populated. i noticed that they were moving away from that area. they flew over it briefly and went back to where i was at shooting the video at, but they wrnltd flying fast. they were keeping pace with this other aircraft. but looked to me like they were chasing him down. i thought this is really odd. so i kept the video rolling. he pulled the stick back and did a complete loop in this aircraft. >> yeah. we're watching the maneuver
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right now. it really is impressive. just from a technical standpoint. it is stunning. >> absolutely. i couldn't believe he recovered. and luckily he did. if i had to guess i'd say maybe he was no less that a hundred feet above the water, but i was probably -- i don't know. that was probably a mile away from where i was at. and i thought, god, he better pull up or he was going to crash. i was prepared to honest lip run and take cover. i didn't know what was going on. lack of nighing skills or if he was just showing off. i got a little worried for a second. then he pulled pretty much straight up and kind of at an automatic and almost stalled the aircraft. somehow he got it leveled back off and then made his way down to stalicum and catron island. i turnltd away for a second and turned back and he's in what pearls to be a 30-degree dive. i turned away again to watch the
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sun set. turned back again and that's when i heard the explosion, saw a bright pinpoint little area of flame and the smoke and up thought, oh, my god, i think he just crashed. >> that was john walden, an eyewitness who shot that video that you've been watching. all right. we'll continue to bring you as much information as and when we get it on this plane crash as well as on the mechanic. for now all we know, as i told you, he was 29 years old. they were working background on him. saudi arabia promises an investigation into an air strike. we'll have the latest on that tragic inns deblt afternoon the break. my name is jeff sheldon,
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. we're following breaking news. an aircraft krashtd near seattle washington after a mechanic stole it from seattle's may airport. it went down about 65 miles sbeft of the airport. it took off without authorization and without passengers. the person at the controls of the plane has only been identified as a 29-year-old horizon air mechanic. he is confirmed to have died in the crash. we also just received some of the radio transmission from the tower and apparently the plane. listen to this. >> all right. this is captain bill.
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congratulations. you did that. now let's try to happened that airplane safely and not hurt anybody on the ground. >> all right. now, damn it. i don't know, map. i mean, i don't know. i don't want to. i was kind of hoping that would be it,up know. >> the sheriff says this was not a terrorism-related incident. i also want to tell you about other stories around the worrell. the saudi led coalition fighting said it will open its own inquiry into arch air strike thursday that hit a school bus in northern yemen. the coalition which is backed by the united states defended the air strike as a legitimate military operation against houthi rebels. the bloody and battered bodies of dozens of small children tell a different story, though. i have to warn you, the images you are about to see is horrible but there is no san tiesing the realty of what's happening.
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>> reporter: there are new images emerging from yemen, images that really bring home the heartbreak of the aftermath of the strike by the saudi leveled-u.s. backed coalition in sadder. the first video shows a father living throughle trying to find where his school is. [ speaking foreign language ] >> and this video, this tells the opposite side of that heartbreak, a father finding his son's body. the absolute and utter heartbreak in that man's voice brings to life what so many of those parents are struggling to live through. this as the united nations's
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children's fund unicef released a statement saying thflgs the single worst incident so far targeting children in yemen's three-year ongoing civil war. a war between the saudi-led coalition and iran-backed houthi rebel militias with the support of both the united states and the uk and in many cases their armaments. pesident donald trump back in june was touting a $110 billion arms deal. many observers believe that is why with while there have been limited calls for investigation, notably by the u.s. state department but also by the u.s. secretary gem, there hasn't been the outrage that would have been expected in the face of such incidents, even as parents were trying to purry their dead, the air strikes in yes, ma'amen continue. in just one district in the nem yemeni capital of sonhar, there
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were 21 air strikes through to the morning after the attack. the war, it seems, continues and humanitarian aid, we're worried that with it will continue the suffering of the children. cnn, london. >> turkey's president wants his citizens to exchange their gold and other currency for kurtturkish leeri. this after it fell 17% at one point. this comes after president trump said u.s. tariffs on imports of turkish aluminum and steel are being doubled. ering wane spokesman said nothing can discourage the will of turkey. here's a closer look. >> reporter: it was an awful day and a terrible week for turkey's president and the lire. it ended where the u.s. president applying heavy sanctions on the exports.
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the lire tumbled to a new all-time low. [ speaking foreign language ] royalty doll >> translator: if you have dollars, euros or gold you would your pillow, exchange it for turkish lire. >> it's a war, he says, turks can win. aired wane asked to focus on what's been built. new universities, hospitals, airports and bridges but his prolific spending is what many say has left the country vulnerable. the lire is down with inpopulation spiraling to nearly 16, the heeest level in nearly a decade and a half. there was attempted damage control with the son-in-law of
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the president unveiling the midterm recovery man. that lacked clairlt. problems in turkey triggered worries in other countries. sparn, italian and french backs have lots of exposure. clearly, matters worsened when the u.s. president declared bilateral relations are not good at this time. cnn, london. >> ok. stay with us. we have more news after this.
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. welcome back. we are following breaking news this hour. an aircraft has crashed near seattle, washington, after a mechanic toll it from seattle's main airport. the plane went down about 40 miles southwest of the airport. the aircraft took off without authorization and without passengers friday night. the person at the controls of the plane, we only know that person was a 29-year-old horizon air america from washington. he is confirmed to have died in the crash. the sheriff says this was not a terrorism-related incident and initially presented this as a suicide flight. alan deefl is a zoenlt investigator for the national transportation safety board and
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the federal asian administration. he joins us from albuquerque, new mexico. the ntsb, your former colleagues will be there soon, shortly. what's the first thing you're going to do? >> they'll try to recover the two so-called black boxes, the voice recorder and the flight data recorder. that will provide a lot are of clusz. clearly, the fbi will be in charge of this. >> they are. >> it's a criminal act. ntsb supports the fbi in criminal acts. >> what's the first thing the nib will do? >> i would manage they're going to will to the air traffic control tapes very carefully. they have psychologists -- i'm a research psychologist but they're clinicians will be listening to his voice deflection. obviously, they're going to try to get his medical records, interview his colleagues, they'll be looking for suicide notes or anything -- hopefully
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they'll get hold of fence and neighbors. i suspect there will be dozens of fbi people on the scene tonight and probably a dozen or so ntsb people assisting them tomorrow. >> what can you tell us about the mimed set of somebody who does this? somebody who steals the plane and manages to take off and clearly had some kind of plan to cover up the stretch of time that it took him to taxi down the runway, etc., and who does that? well, this individual is obviously been around these q-400 aircraft a lot. the maintenance flights, he flies them so he knows how to fly the aircraft. it sounds from the initial clip that this guy was almost happy and he was doing this as some -- he was acting out as a clinical psychologists often say.
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it's -- whether or not it was a semi spur of the moment thing or if you plotted this for months or years, that's what the fbi with the help of the ntsb will be trying to establish, but as mary she aftero poinled out earlier, there's little she can do at the airport to stop him. what's going through his mimed? we'll have to look at his background. wloont whether or not -- hope flip they'll be able to recover enough issue to do stocks logical samples, to see whether or not he was on any controlled substances or alcohol. it almost founded from the brief clip -- >> allen, i want to play that clip so we can hear it. >> louisiana do. >> all right. this is captain bill. congratulations. you did that. now let's try to land that airplane safely around not hurt knish on the ground. >> all right. dammit. i don't know, man, i mean, i
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don't know. i don't want to. i was kind of hoping that was going to be it, you know. >> this is a tiny fragment of the conversation that took place between the control tower and the mechanic flying the plane you see screen left, pulling off these very daring maneuvers, allen, what does that tell you, that conversation? >> incidentally, i'm an aerobatic pilot. i have an airline transport license. this is a complicated airplane to fly, certainly not designed for air battics. he actually did a pretty good job of being able to pull off those rather dramatic maneuvers. sounds like he's kind of congratulating himself that he was able to do it. >> he seems thrilled. >> he sounded thrilled. i didn't intercept his statement to be that was going on the it. he may have been thinking -- i'm speculating. but he may have thought that he wasn't going to be able to recover because that's a
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dramatic maneuver. when you're doing arrow battics, you've got to control air speed and noke yolk pressure, wheel pressure, very carefully. you can do an arrow kai namic stall and lit rally fall out of the sky. he pulled it off. whether or not he intended to crash, that's where the black boxes come in. >> sure. >> they'll be able to see what he did. them that be able to determine whether or not this was an aerodynamic stall at impact or some maneuver ala the german wing pilot back in france couple of years ago where it was obviously intentional suicide. >> and you know, allin, there's something i wanted to run by you and this is just cop jek chur. if you appointmented out to me that of a week ago amgd for several days, there was an air show in that same seattle area
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where you had a number of planes, big and small, all sized and types of planes, that were performing stunts and kind of moves that we saw that mechanic pull off. and i just wonder. in the history of aviation krarves, have you ever seen anything like a copycat crash, somebody who just wants to try and do what he saw? >> well, i've read -- i'm also a psychologist for the usa air force. i've read about mechanics that thought they could fly -- they're authorized to taxi and start an aircraft and there's a mechanic -- many years ago a map in the air force who took a flighter plane, just because he was convinced that he could do it -- clearly this is not rational behavior. it's extreme lip rare. so i guess i'd have to say, yeah, but it's extremely rare. i would really like to see what kind of information comes out of
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his stocks logical reports and also the interviews with the co-worker, the best defense against any of this is random drug testing, which they are subject to. mechanics do have to go through unannounced random tests. they don't do it very often, so you know, it may have been between tests. that's why defense against it. the other thing is what they call employee assistance programs whether other co-workers are taught to look for abberant behavior whether it's a pilot, a driver, a controller or whoever. i suspect they have some kind of med -- i know they have a medical department. if they have a great reputation at -- in alaska and horizon is part of laen. we'll have to wait and see you tink during the next several
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days a lot of information will be forthcoming. hopefully the fbi will not hold up the information as they get it. but i think at this point, i'm not sure. >> yeah. >> perhaps he was motivated by that air show. >> that's just conjecture. people who live in the air do have that in the back of their minds and that's a question i know that has been raised for some of the people who live there. allen, thank you for your analysis. i want to bring to our viewers information we're getting from alaska airplanes, and it is consistent with the details that have been emerging of the last hour, hour and a half, that the airplane believes it was a ground service agent ploed by horizon air who grabbed the plane, a q-400 without clearance, of course, and then took that plane from a maintenance position and
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obviously, that plane was not scheduled for passenger flight. there was -- the plane was airborne for about an hour we're now being told before it crashed on key tron island. the military jets were scrambled. this is consistent with what we knew. they did not shoot down the plane. does not marry they were involved at all. the first responders are at the crash site and as we were saying earlier, the fbi is now leading this investigation. alan deal, thank you so much for your insight on this rapidly developing story. thanks. >> thanks. >> we turn to a grim nimp. how the u.s. city traumatized by white nationalist protests last year is preparing. that's just ahead. at d ard gradus know about cognitive performance? as you'd probably guess, a lot. that's why a new brain health supplement called forebrain from the harvard-educated experts at force factor is flying off the shelves at gnc. forebrain's key ingredients have been clinically shown
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. quick recap on the breaking news out of seattle, washington area. an aircraft has crashed after seattle after an airline mechanic stole it from seattle's main airplane. the plane went down 40 miles southwest of the airport on ketron island. no building was hit when the plane crashed. the aircraft was not authorized to take off. there were no passengers, fortunately, on the plane apart from the mechanic. what do we know about the person would did this? he's 29 years old, a plane
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mechanic. here's from pierce county, washington. that's all we know so far. authorities, the sheriff's department says they're working the background of that person. he is confirmed to have died in the crash. we also just received some of the radio transmissions between the control tower and airplane. take a listen. >> all right, this is captain bill. congratulations, you did that. now, let's try to land that airplane safely and not hurt anybody on the ground. >> all right. now, damn it, i don't know, man, i mean, i don't know. i don't want to. i was kind of hoping that was going to be itself, you know. >> military jet rr scrambled during the incident. doesn't appear in a the jets were involved in the crash. the pierce county sheriff's department also says it was not linked to terrorism. one year this weekend since violent protests rocked the city of charlottesville, virginia.
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the state's governor has declared a state of emergency and police are stepping up security ahead of the anniversary of the clashes in which an anti-nationalist protester was killed. on sunday, white national itss and right wing groups plan to gather in washington for what they call a white civil rights rally. the u.s. president is ignoring this, at least on twitter. he is using the platform to take a stand dependence a different set of protesters. he condemned friday a small group of football players who neil during the national anthem. they're calling attention to racial injustice and inquality and they say the way mr. trump is handling it is making the whole problem worse. here's cnn's snake tapper. >> an nfl protesting racial injustice during the national anthem draws attention. after some players participated
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in the issue, president trump sounding off on twitter saying players "wanted to theaux show their outrage." find another way to bro test. unquote. of course plenty of players including malcolm jenkens who raised his fist thursday have defined their thouts often and in detail. >> we should be quiet when talking about racial evaluate and social up justice. >> 2 president's campaign against nfl players staging these civil rights protests began in september of 2017. >> get that son of a [ bleep ] off the field right now. >> corresponding sworn testimony from dallas cowboys owner jerry jones, the president told him it was a "very strong winning issue for him" adding "this one lifts me." adding it lifts up bigotry as well.
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>> he's the -- >> approaching the one-year anniversary of the unite the right rally in charlottesville, virmg. after which the president failed to announce its racist attendees cle clearly with those of nazis or neo-nazis. >> i think there's blame on both sides and i have no doubt about it. >> critics say rhetoric was amplified. >> it's not a whistle. it's a bullhorn. >> this neo nazi told cnn's sarah sider in this. >> american stepped up. it became a possibility. >> sounds to me like you're afraid of being me and being
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me -- >> this is my country. >> this is also my country. >> you guys didn't win the culture war. >> [ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ]. >> our country's being torp apart. this is a spirit in this country that is so foul -- i don't think we can come back from it. >> the conversations can be difficult. kanye west was known to pounce on him. >> george bush does not care about black people. >> considering himself a trump supporter, he answered this -- >> it makes me wonder what makes you think that donald trump does or any people at all. >> why don't we take a break? we'll come back. kanye west. >> jap tapper, cnn, washington. >> larry stab know is with me.
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larry, for you, this story was perhaps more personal than you would have wanted it to be because charlottesville is where you teach and you were near where the first rally took place with your students. tell us an that moment and that weekend. >> yes. it was of course a year ago. i live on the university of virginia lawn, which is where these neo-nazis mampd. we didn't have much notice that they were coming through the dprounds of the university of virginia. i gathered some students together, particularly the african-americans and jewish students who live on the lawn here and get them into our basement. we had to hide them because the sounds were so bad. "juz will not replace us" and the one that will stick to me forever "into the ovens."
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think about that. "into the ovens" referring to the holocaust in germany in world war ii. so the line of neo-nazis stretched as far as our graduation lines ever do. i cooperate believe how many of them there ever were, all carrying teke torches, all appearing very menacing, some of them with clear weapons of various sorts and anything could have happened. >> so let's talk about the national politics of this. this has been huge no in conversation, race is still a central part of the conversation. how do you think charlottesville and what -- it changed us? >> i'm sorry to say it changed less than i thought. i thought it could be an opportunity to make money on an international level and it hasn't. in part because the president of the united states has capitalized on it in quiet a number of ways and continue to
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use dog whistles that use various racial signals. >> how does he win, how does he keep his voters, how does he get re-elected? >> unfortunately, it is. his coalition, is massively white. he received very few african-american volts, relatively few hispanic voerkts relatively few asian volts. his coalition is overwhelmingly white. so as long as he ep kurmd their solid air armed the social issues that he can benefit from, he's probably going to be benefitted. he also increases the turnout and which also it's wrong.
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we are following the breaking news, an aircraft has crashed near seattle, washington after a mechanic stole it from a maintenance area at seattle's main airport. i'm george howell. >> i'm natalie allen. welcome to our viewers. the plane went down and we're happy to report no one was hurt or killed on the island, it is about 40 miles southwest of the airport, no buildings were hit when the plane crashed. and again people are safe that lived on that island. the aircraft
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