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29 holes and guys resume at 9:00 a.m. this morning. like i said, busy day for tiger. be out there all day and hopefully the back holds up. >> thank you, andy. >> okay. this is "new day weekend." with victor blackwell and christi paul. so glad to have you here. breaking news overnight. a regional airline employee steals an empty plane and takes off and starts doing these aerial maneuvers. >> this happened just after 8:00 seattle time. within minutes military jets were right behind him. he flew the plane for an hour and then crash under ed into a area 40 miles from the airport. >> this is not terrorism. this is not a terroristic incident. we're learning more about the man, though, who apparently stole that plane. the pierce county sheriff's
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office didn't identify him but they say he's a 29-year-old male who they said was suicidal. >> his job was as a ground service agent. they can be in charge of everything from directing the plane on the ground to handling bags, flying the plane is not part of the job description. here's a closer look now at what happened. >> there's a ground stop. no one is departing right now. they're working out an issue close to our air space. >> reporter: with those words to airline pilots, all traffic was stopped in seattle tacoma airport known as sea-tac after an unauthorized takeoff of a turbo prop plane from horizon air owned by the alaska air group. the company's coo said in a video statement that the aircraft was taken by a single horizon air employee and no passengers were onboard. the pierce county sheriff said the man was a 29-year-old ground service agent. what happened next was a bizarre display in the skies above south puget sound. the agent was in touch with air traffic controllers and
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apparently performed stunts in the 76-seater plane. they tried to talk him down to a safe landing. >> congratulations, you did that. now, let's try to land that plane safely and not hurt anybody on the ground. >> all right. i don't know, man. i don't know. i don't want to. i was kind of hoping that was going to be it. >> reporter: international guard jets were scrambled and washington's governor tweeted that fighter pilots flew alongside the aircraft and was ready to do whatever was needed to protect citizens. but, in the end, the man flying the stolen plane crashed. pictures from cnn affiliate komo showed flaming debris on the site of the crash. >> the plane literally at that moment was flying right over our deck and right behind it, we'd never seen a plane that low over our deck before and shortly therefore we saw a giant plume of black smoke out in the distance. >> joining us now to talk about
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how this could happen, colonel cedric layton, cnn military analyst and cnn's safety analyst. gentlemen, good morning. david, let me start with you. this is something i have been wondering since we learned more about this theft and then crash. once airport authorities know that someone who is not authorized to be in the cockpit is in the cockpit, the plane is on the move and they know that this person has nefarious intentions. what is the protocol to stop this plane from getting off the ground ground, if any? >> there is protocol for that. a couple things that can happen is there is actually ground movement, vehicles that can be placed in front of the aircraft. now, it's not really effective and kind of suicidal for whoever is driving that vehicle. but if they know it is happening, they can shut down the aircraft physically with sea-tac doesn't have snow plows but fire trucks in front and that is the method to try to
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stop someone from taking off. but it's not something that is practiced very often, but it is something that is a protocol at the airports. >> so, colonel layton, i wanted to ask you, we just heard there some of the sound that was going back and forth between the man who was piloting that plane and sea-tac airport and you might have caught the moment where he did the spin and they said, congratulations, let's try to get this thing on the ground. you can see they're trying to make him feel good, you did this, let's get back on the ground. anything else you think based on what we heard so far this morning that they could have done differently? >> not really, christi. when you hear the way in which the air traffic controllers handled this, it was extremely professional. very calm and, like you said, they're, in essence, trying to talk the guy down. there is really nothing that they can do except guide an individual like this to a safer landing zone. in this case, you know, the water was a possibility.
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certainly you wanted to keep him away from residential areas things like schools and other areas where the public might congregate. at that point in time, there was probably very little in the way of activity in the schools, but that is one of the big things they would want to do. you really want to make sure that in some ways you give that person enough instruction so that they can land the plane as safely as possible, but in most cases like this, you don't find them really capable of receiving that kind of instruction. so, it's a real challenge for air traffic controllers. >> so, these were certainly some aerobatics that this john who recorded this video captured. this does not appear to you as someone who has never flown or has had no training. >> no, it doesn't. it looks like someone who has had some training. he does know what he's doing. a ground agent who could also be a mechanic. someone who could be very
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familiar with that and may even be a pilot himself. we'll find that out later. he clearly wasn't of right mind and his flying and where he was going, but he did have command of the aircraft. >> clarify that. because early on the sheriff referred to this man as a mechanic and then we got the clarification that it was a ground service agent. you're saying that he could be both a ground service agent and a mechanic. is that what you're saying? >> the term ground service agent is an airport term that identifies anyone who has access to particular areas. whether his job was to carry baggage. whether his job was to be a mechanic. he's saying anything to do with ground service is that category who has access to the aircraft. he has access to the tarmac, he has access to the baggage area and this is one of our most vulnerable areas, as with all airports across the country right now is these ground service agent passes. >> got it.
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>> colonel leighton, do we know what kind of mental health checks are done on, i mean, we know that pilots are certainly heavily scrutinized. you're in the military, the flights that followed him, the f-15s. they go through rigorous testing. what about these ground agents? are there protocols to change that and make it more rigorous for everybody working at the parp airport? i am trying to understand, how on earth can a man like this, in this position, get access to that and do what he did. >> absolutely, christi. the problem is there are no protocol for people like ground service agents or most mechanics to have real thorough background checks. they're not going to have the same kind of background checks that pilots go through and you mentioned the military. of course, military pilots have
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very strong, very rigorous background checks. in this case, you also have civilian pilots go through very similar procedures. their background are looked at. it's not a fail-safe method, but at least one way we can assess or the professional community can assess whether somebody is qualified to fly an aircraft from a mental health perspective. there is no protocol in place to handle these kind of situations because you don't expect these kinds of employees to have that kind of access and to take things into their own hands, such as actual aircraft. something that absolutely needs to change. there have been measures that have been before congress that have passed the house, but not the senate that would actually indicate that they're moving towards much more thorough background check investigation process. but that process is not fail-safe and it is also a process that really needs a lot of work in the sense that it needs to be a continuous process, not just a one-time
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process when a person applies for a job. >> again, that suspect believed to be the only person on the plane, which crashed in that wooded area on ketron island. authorities are all on the scene and investigations will begin. we appreciate you both so much. thank you for being here. they're going to stick with us here as we have more to discuss, of course. we also have more to listen to with you here. the audio from inside the cockpit of that plane where this man talked about what he was trying to do. >> trying to do a barrel roll and if that goes good, i'm going to nose down and call it a night. >> john waldron was taking a walk when he looked up and saw the planes. he recorded that video and we spoke with him last hour and he said he knew something was wrong. >> out of no where, the guy that was flying this q400 just pulled the stick back and put this
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thing into a complete loop and i honestly thought he was going to stall and hit the water. he headed down to where he eventually crashed at and pulled the nose back up, again. i thought he was going to stall, again. and he made his way down and i looked, again, he was in a nose dive and went straight into the ground. i saw a brief flash of flame and then smoke and then the explosion. i just had a bad feeling. >> we'll continue to follow this for you this afternoon and this morning. listen, it's been a year since white nationalists and counterprotesters fought on the streets of charlottesville. some people say, listen, this country hasn't had a moment of healing when it comes to race and hatred. where we are a year later and where we're going. >> look at this. entire neighborhoods destroyed in california. the state is in the middle of a record-breaking fire season.
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we'll have more details on how these monstrous fires are racing through these communities and they don't seem to be letting up just yet. >> you do not want to run into the november elections. so, back up from that, this should be over with by september 1st. >> that's president trump's attorney rudy giuliani co-hosting a radio show with another attorney for the president saying the mueller investigation should be wrapped up in the next few weeks. more as the first major test of the special investigation continues. this is the ocean. just listen. (vo) there's so much we want to show her. we needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. (avo) subaru outback. 98% are still on the road after 10 years. come on mom, let's go! (avo) right now, get 0% apr financing
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there are several events in charlottesville, virginia, one year where violent protests on the lawn at the school and downtown charlottesville and the riots resulted in the death of 32-year-old heather heyer. >> two virginia state troopers
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were in a helicopter watching the protest and they were killed in a crash. the university of virginia is hosting a morning of reflection and renewal with breakfast and performances and charlottesville clergy members are leading a service for remembrance and then this evening a student rally on uva's campus. in charlottesville right now and you were there last year. have you talked to anybody about the differences from last year to this year? do they feel like anything has changed? >> christi and victor, what has changed here is a lot of the city personnel. a new police chief in town and officials who made decisions that led to the results of last year's events are no longer in those positions that they were elected to. i was just speaking with a few members of the charlottesville community who say over the past year they've had more
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conversations with their neighbors, with their colleagues than they have in years' past about the state of race relations, not just in the city of charlottesville, but in this country. the city this weekend is really focused on healing, looking forward, not looking back at what happened a year ago. these barricades you see behind me, concrete barriers barring any vehicles and those barriers such a sharp reminder of what was witnessed a year ago. this intersection i'm standing at right outside of what was known as emancipation park and that statue of robert e. lee that was the genesis of the alt right coming here and this was the intersection where you saw so much violence and brutality a year ago. these streets closed. the police chief saying violence will not be tolerated in the city this weekend. >> all right, kaylee, thank you so much. we appreciate it. so, in the meantime, i want to let you know that i talked
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with susan bro, the mother of heather heyer, who is speaking out on losing her daughter in last year's violent protests. heather heyer was the one who died in that crash, when that car crashed. i spoke with her mother about the state of race relations in the country and what her message specifically is for unity. >> sometimes if someone is so adamantly opposed to what you have to say, you simply make your point by linking arms with that person of color who is with you. or it could be a visual statement, as much as a verbal statement. sometimes people aren't ready to hear what you have to say. but they can't help but see what you're doing. >> what do you want to say? >> i want to say snap out of it. white privilege is a very real
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thing. you know, i struggled a lot in my life. i was a single mom with two kids. my parents provided for me. i have, you know, i was not struggling as a child. my grandparents were co-miners and farmers and i live in a single wide trailer. i get that demographic and i get the mindset. but, it's not mandatory that you think a certain way just because you live a certain way. you have the ability to still think for yourself. i often say, don't drink the co kool-aid. be aware of the fact that you don't have to believe the way you were brought up to believe. >> susan, by the way, is expected to visit the cemetery where her daughter is buried tomorrow and also to lay some flowers where she died. we're getting more of the
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breaking news out of washington state where an airline employee stole a plane and crashed it. coming up, the conversation he had with air traffic controllers midflight. when your blanket's freshness fades before the binge-watching begins... that's when you know, it's half-washed. next time, add downy fabric conditioner. downy conditions fibers with a long-lasting fresh scent.
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new developments in the breaking news we have been following overnight. >> authorities say the
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29-year-old ground service agent stole the plane about 8:00 last night, seattle time. two fighter jets scrambled escorting the plane for nearly an hour and during that entire flight, air traffic controllers were in contact with that man, attempting to convince him to turn around and land that plane. >> well, after a 25-mile flight, the plane crashed on ketron island. the deputies say the man was suicidal. several times during the flight, he apologized. listen. >> i have a lot of people that care about me and it is going to disappoint them that i did thisp i would like to apologize to each and every one of them. just that broken guy, got a few screws loose, i guess. never really knew it until now. >> we'll be listening to more of
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that, but, first, let me read. this is the white house statement just released. and i'm going to read it for you here. the president has been briefed on the incident involving a stolen plane from sea-tac airport in seattle and is monitoring the situation as information becomes available. federal authorities are assisting with the ongoing investigation, which is being led by local authorities. we commend theinter agency response effort for their swift action and response. that from press secretary sarah sanders. >> colonel cedric leighton. your reaction there, colonel, to what you heard from the white house and what happens next in this investigation. >> christi, i think the white house made the right statement in this case. and what we have here is a test of the system that we have for
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air defense in this country. and the fact that the f-15s from the 142nd fighter wing at portland, oregon, international guard unit came so quickly shows that at least that part of the system is working. and, of course, we'll have to find out exactly what the motivations were. you know, was this just solely a mental health issue? as far as the future of the investigation is concerned, i would say that the hope of the pilot, the person who stole the plane in this case is something that is of paramount concern. make sure there are no connections to anything else. there are, after all, five different military installations, major military installations in the seattle-tacoma area. makes any activity of this type part of a broader look and the investigations have to include a look at motivations and a look
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at connections and a look at the kind of things that may have spurred this kind of activity. but, you know, so far i agree with the local sheriff who said that there is no terrorist activity indicated at the present time. >> david, to you on the phone, let's talk more about this investigation. we know that the colonel has just outlined the questions that these investigators want answered. tell us practically what that looks like at the airport there in the hangar and who are they speaking with? what are the questions they're asking. what evidence could they potentially get their hands on right now after their plane has crashed and burned that could give them some of those answers? >> the first thing they're looking at is that there is a protocol to not allow anyone to singularly get on board and it is something that is practiced and it's like when you have a security badge and you go through the door, you're supposed to close the door behind you and make sure no one comes behind you until they use their badge to come through. that is very similar to this
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process in which if you are going to access the aircraft that you check with someone else and that someone else is confirmed and that you have your badge with you and the right authority to get on that aircraft. step one, to figure out why in the world that happened and why someone wasn't paying attention to allow someone to gosingulary on that aircraft. step number two is how do they res have those processes. and every airport in the country is going to be looking at at after this incident. >> so sad to listen to what we just listened to colonel leighton the pilot saying maybe i have a screw loose and feeling so much defeat in his voice. help us understand how you would normally try to negotiate or talk to someone like that when they're in that state. >> that's a very difficult situation and it varies by each
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individual case and, you know, the parameters of the situation that you're in at the time, christi. but in this way, you know, in a situation like this, what you end up doing is you end up trying to reason with the person, which can be a very difficult thing to do because they're, obviously, looking at life from a very depressed point of view. they're not looking at things in a very positive way at all. sometimes what you try to do is you try to give people the idea that there is something to live for. there is something that they can actually seek in their way of doing things that will mack their lives better. but, you know, at this point, act like this is an act of desperation and in some ways it's almost impossible to talk someone down successfully from something like this. what we're lucky with in this particular case is the fact that he appears not to have hit any populated areas. that there is nothing that he
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did that endangered anybody else. but it could have been very, very different had he turned the plane towards seattle, we would be talking about a very different story today. >> no doubt about it. appreciate both of you being with us so much. thank you. >> thank you, both. the president's legal team sees the mueller investigation wrapping up soon. this is as the first major test of its findings are under way in the manafort trial.
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>> good morning. >> you know, as we now transition, the prosecutors have a little more to wrap up, but transitioning from the prosecutors to the defense. how do you assess the defense team's efforts thus far in cross-examination and, also, what does the defense need to look like to break down and discredit some of this information and this testimony? >> i think the defense team has done what they needed to do and what they plan to do, which is they launched a big assault on rick gates and i think they scored some points. of course, the critical point there is the jury doesn't necessarily have to like the co wince but they attacked him and dirtied him up a little bit and questioned his motivations and remains to be seen what the jury take away from that is. i think they've also done a good job with some of the other
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cross-examination picking away at some of the details, for example, on friday the bank loan executives. so, they definitely made some points on cross. i think overall what they're going to need to do is what they said in the beginning in their opening. they need pry apart gates from manafort to do all their strategy and pin all the blame on rick gates and not clear if they have been able to do that or not. done a very solid job on the cross. >> gates, of course, was an important witness here for the prosecutors, but a lot of this case is on paper and in photos. the purchases made by manafort and it's really remarkable. i just want to put some punctuation on this. the financial difficulties, the dire straits in which manafort found himself in the lead up to joining the campaign and as he worked for the trump campaign, all the things that we are going on behind the scenes, it really
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is remarkable. >> it really is. i think one of the biggest things here is that he has to, you know, go, i'm sorry, i'm hearing in my ear. >> if you can fix that, we'll get back to that question. and let me come back to you, shan, while we get the audio situation fixed for amie there. paul manafort and roger stone some lessons we can take. paul manafort was charged last year and analysts and people who knew him who said this man will flip on president trump. this is not the type of man that will risk going to federal prison for any amount of time. he's been there for a few weeks now before this trial actually started. i want you now to listen to what we're hearing from roger stone, who has not been charged. but this is what he is saying about potentially offering information about the president. >> i made it abundantly clear that there are no circumstances under which i would testify
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against the president. i would not rule out cooperating, if they think i could be helpful in some area. but beyond that, i have not spoken to them. >> so, again, he has not been charged. this is not a trial situation, but if he's subpoenaed to come and offer information that he believes would be against president trump, do you expect he'll stick to that line? >> he could try to stick to it and it sounds like he will, you know, i recently watched that film about him and he certainly seems to be quite a loyalist in terms of his ideology. he's not really going to have a legal basis for it other than -- >> okay. we have aime's audio issue fixed? aime? >> yeah. >> let's move on to a different part of the conversation now and talk specifically about randy who is now facing a subpoena and
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we moved on to rauoger stone no. as his communications with wikileaks founder julian assange and identified him as his le liaison between the two and he will not speak to the subpoena and the impact and what it indicates about the direction of the mueller investigation now. >> i mean, the thing that i think is really clear here is that they're trying to make the case here. they're trying to find out exactly what trump knew. i think that's key here. if he did anything, if he knew, if he did anything illegal, if stone did anything illegal and i think he is the key here. it's really interesting why he hasn't been subpoenaed yet, stone. the fact that they're trying to chip away at this and find out exactly what he knew and what he was trying to communicate and what he knew about wikileaks.
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so, i think they think this is a key witness here and that's what they're trying to chip away at with here. >> sorry for the audio issue. >> so sorry. >> got it fixed just there at the end. shan, thank you, as well. >> good to be here. still to come, a rural pennsylvania town racially divided with many residents supporting and racists are being fueled by president trump's words. we have more on that ahead.
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so, one year after that deadly rally in charlottesville there is this pennsylvania town that is so divided today. 650 residents and it's faced with a racial riff that echoes nationally. >> the south side is quaint with friendly neighbors, but the north side is overrun with nazi flags and wooden swastikas.
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sarah sidner spoke with some people on each side. >> reporter: in the calm of this rural northern pennsylvania town, a sign that hate lives here. are you a neo-nazi? >> do i embrace it? i don't try to push it away. >> reporter: well, you're wearing a swastika on your shirt? and you have swastika flags. why the shirt and the flags and the hateful symbols in this neighborhood? >> i don't think they're hateful. an ideology that has been misinterpreted. >> i have to stop you. misinterpreted. misinterpreted. >> you'll never sell me on that. >> i'm not trying to sell you, it's reality. population 690. with the help of the internet, his message has spread far and wide giving his town attention
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it does not want. >> rural america spoke up when they elected trump. >> reporter: by rural america, he means white america. >> we're staring down the barrel of a gun. the vast majority of them are in their 60s and 70s will be in the ground in the next 20 years and become a minority in your own country. the possibility of becoming a minority. >> reporter: it sounds like you're afraid of being me. and being me is great. this is also my country. he invited us on his property to talk, but when he doesn't like our conversation he explodes. >> get out of here [ bleep ]. >> reporter: we do. just down the street we're met by a dozen residents who say burnside does not speak for this town. >> there are families in this county that blame politics, is that fair? >> the president we have doesn't
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help the situation a whole lot. a lot of the same beliefs. at least he won't speak against him. this guy feeds off that stuff. >> reporter: among the crowd, many with grandfathers or fathers who fought the >> we are good people and he's stepping on us, he's stepping on all of us. we are all one tribe and who does he think he is. >> reporter: teacher hamilton says she just returned to touring concentration camp in holland. so far they have chosen passive resistan resistance. on the other side, joe are convinced that passive resistance is the wrong choice. >> i am not saying you should go to their houses with guns. after seeing kkk flyers
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appearing in their neighborhood, joe did protest only to receive a threat by one o f the supremacists he stood against. >> he gave me the finger and make gestures they're going to shoot me. joe says the racial hatred intensifies. >> i get a lot of that. >> reporter: if more people stood up against hate, the raci racists will be forced to leave. cnn, sarah sidner. >> thank you to sarah. >> we'll tell you more of the california fires and the people and the buildings there they are impacted. in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea
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everyday world. we squat every time we sit down or getting into the car. >> i totally feel it in my stoma stomach. >> they had me doing certain exercises. >> we find that if a client have an injury, we'll refer them to a physical therapist. >> after about two months, the aches and pain gone away. i have lost some weight and i feel healthier and my muscles are stronger and i feel better. i want to be out there with the kids having the fun. >> right now there are 19 fires burning across california. three of them are massive. look at this, cars, homes and the entire neighborhood is destroyed.
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cnn, live at the weather center. >> victor good to see you. we have one gentleman hosing down his house and police yelled at him to get out. they're out there in thousands but they can't be in every little spot. the fires have been winning in some cases because of the weather conditions. 19 fires tracking right now. we'll focus in the ones that's impacting a chunk of the area here. 90% containment. it has taken out 40,000 acres. this is the big deal here now that we have been focusing on southern california. this is impacting orange county and riverside as well. 19,000 acres now and only 10% containment. it is in this area that we'll get improvement. notice the red flag warnings,
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that means fire conditions are going to be terrible here. as we move further down to the south, we don't have red flag warnings here. there is a good reason for that. the marine layer that's typical to us along the lowecoast is go to penetrate the east. that whole fire is going to benefit from higher humidity. if you can get a little bit of help, that's going to go a long way. this is monsoonal moisture, that may organize its way to the west. we don't want storms in or around the fire. that's when you get erratic winds and that's when the predictable winds go away and firefighters have a big wind to shift. we don't want thunderstorms. i don't think we'll get them. temperatures over the next few days in the 90s sunny and windy. that one improvement is going to go up the next few days. iran cabrera. thank you so much.
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this is cnn breaking news. so glad to have you accompany here, i am christie paul. >> i am victor black. tl white hou the white house is responding to breaking news over night. the president has been briefed and it is monitoring the situation. now, this happened just after 8:00 seattle time. within minutes the military jets were right behind it. it flew for about 40 minutes and crashed. >> authorities say this is not terrorism act. they said he was a 29-year-old male who was suicidal. >> he was what called ground service agent. they can be in charge of directing

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