than a billion years later in a lab half way around the world. before you wonder what could be discovered from our oceans a billion years from now, somes s have evaporated all the oceans. i'll see you next week. i'm brian stelter and this is "reliable soursces." this hour new york city mayor bill de blasio is here and says rupert murdoch's media empire damaged the country. he'll tell me why in an exclusive sunday morning interview and later in the hour, you saw laura ingraham's co comments in the week echoing white nationalism. what exactly fox is peddling with our panel and one more thing talking about fox and the empire there, it's all part of a

trump hall of mirrors, we'll show you how sean hannity handed over his radio show to trump's lawyer. that's coming up later this hour. but first a simple question, is she a whistle blower or is she a fame junky? is omarose manigault-newman doing with her new bookmaking startling claims against her former boss donald trump but should the press take her seriously? this is a story that will be unraveling for days to come, ultimately a story about credibility and it is incredible. ten years ago she was a reality tv villain and one year ago the highest ranking black employee in the trump white house and now she's the author of a tell all book unhinged out on tuesday. she turns on trump calling him racist, and mentally waning.

she bhas begun her tour on ""met the press"" and the tapes she's secretly recorded in the white house. we'll get to that in a moment but she's calling out her former colleagues as liars. >> this is a white house where everybody lies. the president lies to the american people. sarah huckabee stands in front of the country and lies every single day. you have to have your own back. >> that is, she says, why she recorded tapes in the white house. look, she's not excusing herself. she is saying she was come police sit. >> it is hindsight but i will say this to you, i was come poli -- co how mentally declined he is and how difficult it is for him to process complex information, how he is not engaged in some of the most important decisions that impacts our country. for that i regret.

>> she can say that now, she's sort of playing the hero now speaking out against trump that's how she's portraying herself but her brand has always been about being a villain, not a hero, a villain, a liar, a back stabber and self-promoter. shortly after she was kicked out of the white house, she took up residence on the cbs "big brother" show and hinted about revelations on trump and now she's out pitching her book. now i think the book is a big deal because she is the first trump white house staffer to write an unflattering tell-all. but some of what she's written is unbelievable. there are basic mistakes in the text and several people have come out and denied specific things that she has written about them. there was apparently a lack of fact checking, a lack of editorial rigger associated with the book and yet, you know what will happen for days to come, the media is going to talk about this book, the entertainment

media, the tabloid press that finds it irresistible. the new mark chair at journalism ethics and a columnist for the boston globe and a long time analyst and april ryan who had scrapes of omarose is a cnn political analyst and about to be out with her book titled "under fire" reporting from the front lines of the trump white house. there is a lot to unpack. how do we approach a book with pretty sloppy errors in the text but is also a damming portrait of the sitting president? >> look, this is a situation where it's a mixed bag. josh listened to some of the tapes she made in the white house. he's also reviewed the non-disclosure agreement she was offered by laura trump and the trump campaign to be paid

$15,000 a month and stay quiet which she declined and many of the quotes in the book match what he heard on the tapes. clearly, there seem to be errors and lack of fact checking. that is a real problem. it's not confined to just this book. let's think about "fire and furry" the michael wolff book that was explosive we couldn't stop talking about that seemed to have basic lack of fact checking. this is a problem across the book publishing industry as it relates to stories being told about donald trump that everyone is looking for the most explosive story and we can't lower our standards and not fact check. at the same time there is a lot of stuff in this book that was taped that was true and if she was credible enough to be a senior white house official to be quoted as a white house official at the time, then she's credible enough to be listened to now at the same level. you can't have it both ways. that's what i would say about her credibility. >> it comes back to trump hiring her in the white house over a year ago.

let's talk about the tapes you referenced. it's interesting she's using the tapes as leverage so when people call her a liar, here are the receipts and tapes. let's listen to part of the tape when the day omarose was fired by john kelly. this was she says was taped in the situation room i guess on a cell phone. let's listen to it and we'll talk about it. >> can i ask you a couple questions? is the president aware? >> let's not go down the road. this is a non-negotiable discussion. >> i don't want to negotiate. this is my departure i would like to have an opportunity to understand -- >> we can talk another time. this has to do with serious integrity violations. so i'll let it go with that. so the staff and everyone on the staff works for me, not the president. >> so there you go. part of the tape recorded at the white house on the day she was let go, april, i know that omarose secretly taped you in the past so how are you processing this new tape?

>> yes, she did. well, you know, in the washington post article after she edited a tape of our altercation in the west wing that i detail in my book fact well ly, she said that is what we do. that is what everyone including the president of the united states does, tapes people but here is the problem. if indeed these tapes are factual and i believe them to be credible, i was on twitter today and reading some of the tweets and i saw something after the "meet the press" interview and i called congressman elijah cummings who is the minority leader in the government in oversight reform committee in the house and he said if indeed these tapes are there and they were taped in the situation room and the oval office and other places, this is a national security issue and he's looking

into it. national security protocols were not followed. omarose says she has taped in the oval office, and in the situation room. we've heard the tapes. now i've talked to people from former administrations and they have said you are not allowed -- i know this for a fact, when we go into otrs with the president orsen your oc senior official w put our cell phones in a cabbie in a room. you're not supposed to bring your cell phone in the situation room, in the roosevelt room, you're not supposed to have your cell phone in the office of the chief of staff and you're not supposed to have your cell phone in the national security office and this leads to a broader question, are national security protocols being followed in this white house? we're talking about russia. now you got to worry about omarose and others who might have cell phones taping things and they could be hacked. this is not just about a booking getting paid for a booking telling all. if she did the tapes, we hear voices and everything, you don't

know if they are edited are not. there is a credibility issue with her. i'll be honest with you but there are tapes and this is a national security issue. this is not just about a book anymore. she's giving receipts and she's in trouble. >> the change situation because nobody involved has a lot of credibility. let's put on screen sarah sanders' statement about the book. she came out and said the book is full of lies and false accusations. and she said she regrets -- >> she has no credibility, either. >> keep that in mind the next time sarah sanders dishes a false accusation. so it's a matter of who has less credibility and jeff greenfield, we also have to keep in mind omarose's many past statements supporting president trump. >> you know, i don't quote very often but one of the famous lines is history repeats itself the first is tragedy, the second is farce. and if it weren't for the fact that as april says there is serious national security issues here, this kind of looks like a

weird remake of dr. strange love and maybe the way to approach this once you have a situation where someone like donald trump can be president of the united states, why should we be surprised a tv star is dominating the media and the lead of this program in which it is quite clear a that her affection for donald trump is in direct relationship to whether or not she had a high-paying job at the white house and second, where the most basic fact checking in a book, not a tweet has clearly been missed. so my feeling is as far as i'm concerned, i want to wait for bob woodward's book. i have a feeling his opinion is -- >> me, too. >> his book is called "fear" out in a month. it's doing well, so much better on amazon than omarose's book

is. there is something to be said about the reporting and speculating but here is the thing about om ma rarose. she said our president is in declining mental health 6789. >> saying we have to bow down to donald trump makes assertions less credible. look, it's always a disgruntled employee who does this. we never had a book from a grunt l employ employee. if donald trump is declining mental health that's a serious issue but the source of this, omarosa is in my view so compromised by everything she said up to the point when john

kelly kicked her out of the white house that it goes to the issue of how much are you going to trust this? >> right, right. definitely. sorry, last word. yeah. sorry, april, you there. last word to you since you've known -- >> sorry, i didn't hear you. yeah, i've known omarosa for years and we're not friends anymore. what has happened is this white house created this monster and it was even before this white house, you know, i would say donald trump created his own monster and now the monster, he created the own monster in his own likeness and the monster has come back to bite him and i can tell you for a fact, she was come polil complisit but wanted to prove she was in their camp because she used to be a democrat and went so far to go after me. she told sean spicer to stop calling on me. she has done so much. she lied on me telling people i was taking money from hillary

clinton to hurt my career. omarosa did these things. she may not even talk about it in her book but i talk about it in mine and she did it to support her president and support her friend that she said she was loyal to and the bottom line is that yes, she was codoi this knowing it would be a payoff in the end for her and once she got upset with him or he got upset with her, she turns on him. she's not a friend, she's a liar and i would say she's evil. >> i hope she can respond to that at some point soon calling her evil. >> she will, i'm sure she will. i'm sure she will. >> panel, stick around. let's take a turn for a moment and bring the panel back later in the hour. after the break, new york city mayor bill de blasio, is he taking a page from president trump's playbook attacking the press, murdoch's outlets? de blasio will join me in a moment. come on dad!

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welcome back to reliiable sources, i'm brian stelter. it's the media empire of rupert murdoch at fault. bill de blasio has long been a critic of the new york post newspaper and owned it for years. he says it's right-wing propaganda but also been talking about fox news of course on a week when laura ingraham's hateful comments are on the

news. this critique of right wing corporate media may appeal in the 2020 democratic primary but isn't it rather trump? mayor bill de blasio joins me now here onset. mayor, thanks for coming over. >> thank you, brian. >> what is your critique of murdoch? you were quoted saying imagine the country if murdoch never had papers or networks? >> we would be a more unified country. there would be less overt hate and appeal to division because what murdoch did is create a dynamic. we saw it in new york city for years and years where race was infused into the dialogue in a negative way and it was an apocalypse version of crime and decay and always putting that through a lens of people of

color as the villains. you talk about central park five or so many other instances, certainly you saw that around the election of david in new york and how he was vilified but you see it on a national level. too. they don't just dog whistle, they go farther. they put race front and center and stir the negative impulses, there is no donald trump without news corp. he never would have got the presidency because he wouldn't be elevated the way he was for years and years. i believe in a free strong media. i'll defend it with all i got but we have to be able to call out when a particular company has a corporate agenda has a political agaenda and very effectively changed the american discourse and by the way, when i was growing up with i think some real heroes of journalism. walter cronkite is obvious and so many others before him, they set a tone of evilness and

respect and got a hearing because the american media gave them the opportunity to be heard. today you have one outlet and one outlet only sewing division and we should be able to talk about that. >> so you would rather not have "the new york post" or fox news exist? >> look, it's a free country. because they exist we've been changed for the worst. if you said. >> isn't that like saying they are fake news or enemy of the people? >> no, because i think what the president tried to do is create a dynamic that's anti media, anti free speech, undermining democratic norms. this is a president that doesn't believe in democratic norms. i believe in them deeply and a free discourse. >> sure sounds like you feel anti media feelings. >> no, i feel anti news corp feelings and angry when i see a media outlet, a corporate giant dividing people and creating hatred and negativity and changing our political landscape

for the worse. i think we have to be able to talk about that. we have to respect their constitutional rights of course but we also are consumers. we're also citizens. if we don't talk about it and they continue to do this to our country, something is wrong. >> there is lots of media critics but politicians make lousy media critics. why do you think it's your role because you don't like the context? >> it's not happening enough. >> you're doing it because nobody else is? >> no, i agree with you. we'll get criticized by all media. we have to take it and listen and even the new york post sometimes write as story on something happening with a government agency that proves to be right and we have to address and fix it. i think it's fair to say also that when you look at cnn for example, you look at the major networks, they do not harbor a daily hourly political agenda and bias. they provide both sides. it's part of their dna.

they may have values and views when it comes to news corp, they have a political mission and we have to be able to talkbili abo it. >> it's like trump singling out cnn. two wrongs don't make a right. two versions of something bad. >> couldn't disagree more. cnn on a regular basis provides both sides of the story. cnn you can find politics in cnn but it does not come close to resembling the clear political agenda of news corp. again, to your question why should we talk about it? it's changing our lives and if we don't talk about it, how do you address it? >> i had staffers say you were doing exactly what donald trump does. >> couldn't be more untrue. >> you think it's a false equivalent? >> false. >> two things can be bad if not equal. they can both be bad. >> let's break it down. if one agrees and look at the facts over decades, does news corp have a clear right wing agenda? that is obvious.

do they sensationalize, racialize and divide? yes. does that compare to cnn, nbc, cbs, abc, "the new york times", "the washington post"? no, one is not like the other. they have a right to exist but we have a right to confront what they are doing to our country and not simply stand idly by because we fear -- >> staffers say that makes me feel unsafe leaving my building in midtown manhattan, is that a problem. >> not if you say rerespect all media and defend all media's rights but also have to berespe media and defend all media's rights but also have to be able to espect all media and defend all media's rights but also have to be able to say if it's affecting it in a way -- >> are you doing this because you want to run for president? >> my term goes to 2021. >> i think bernie sanders hit a vain. i wonder if you view this as a wedge issue. >> i've been talking about the corporate media since 1980. >> you have withbeen.

>> let's go through examples. here is some of what you said according to the private e-mails leaked out and released by a court order. you said the news media is pitiful saying it's sad for our city and nation and accused "the new york times" of bias and another point you said, maybe if the new york daily news went online only that would be good for us. but now the daily news had to lay off half the staff. isn't that hurting our city? >> what i was calling out is the sensational part that affected the daily news which creates a bad discourage. we want a respectful high road intelligence discourse. what i think is happening to the tabloid culture created a lot of division in my city and obscuring of some of the bigger issues. we have a massive income and equality crisis in our city but if you look at the tabloid approach, it takes the attention off of that and on to a lot of the divisions that exist particularly along the lines of race. i want to see that fixed but i believe the daily news plays a crucial role.

i would like it sold to someone that cares about new york city. the parent corporation does not. they don't want insightful reporting and want the daily news to dig into the every day stories. they want a profit and laying off half the newsroom. that's unacre secceptablunaccep. i hope you can hear the views but that doesn't mean we should be silent on the outcomes of some of the approaches if they are specifically for an agenda and that gets me back to news corp. i don't accuse the daily news or "new york times" of having that agenda. "the new york times" takes an elite view of the world too often. i don't think that's a news flash but i respect what they do and respond to what they do but if we have a source that's fund mentally changed us, think of the equation, a world without news corp, a world with the kind of reporting both sides and a real devotion to objectivity that was the norm up through the 1970s, what would we look like today? i guarantee you donald trump would not be president and i

guarantee you that what we're seeing today in washington, the right and the alt right and negativity and division coming out and feeling it has licensed, that wouldn't be true and that's good when those forces don't feel they have license. >> i still think politicians make lousy media critics. >> they may but if you have a belief structure like i do, you can't stay silent if you see something not being recognized. it's not the same. this is part of the argument. sometimes people try to say we have to defend the post and everyone else. i defend the right to exist but can we not acknowledge we're different than essentially every other outlet out there? and in a world like we almost saw sinclair take another huge step forward and build it's empire and see some of the same tendencies in sinclair towards clear political agenda infecting news reporting, that should be a concern for all americans. separating editorial from reporting. that's a pretty core american civic value that does not happen

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the fact there is white national rhetoric being moved into the main stream. they echoed the racist language that we see on these fringe websites. look, don't take it from me. judge it for yourself. >> some parts of the country it does seem like the america that we know and love doesn't exist anymore. massive demographic changes have been hoisted among the american people and they are changes that none of us voted for and most of us don't like from virginia to california we see stark examples of how radically the country changed in legal immigration that progressives love. >> the america we know and love doesn't exist anymore, we, who is the we? who is the us? ingram denied this was about race but what do you think?

i hear in her segment and some of carlson's segments is white fright, this fear of change. what so many americans see as progress, many fox fans see as loss. you might call that white anxiety or say it's straight up racism. so as we look ahead now to this rally in washington the continued concern in charlottesville about racist showing up there again on the one-year anniversary of the riot there last year, how can newsrooms responsibly cover these problems? how can we in journalism shine a light on these groups without fans the flames. let's bring back the panel and talk through that. first to you, you and i had a dialogue about this over the weekend. what is your approach? should we ignore a hate rally in washington? should we not draw attention to it? >> look, we can't ignore it. it's something that is reality.

it's our job as journalists to shine a light on the ugliest things that happen in our society but that means it can be a hot light. we don't need to put any kind of a group, we have no obligation to put these groups into soft focus and i think that part of the issue here is knowing how to interrogate groups whose ideas rely on a lot of lies and do a good job of holding their feet to the fire and not just giving them a free platform and i say this because i'm thinking about the way that for example megyn kelly interviewed alex jones of info wars a year ago, the controversy that came up about the npr interview that organized this anniversary of the charlottesville rally in washington and i think the problem is that when you're going to give a platform to someone like this, yes, we need to expose their thoughts, why they think that way but we need to come armed with our facts.

we need to ahead of time do the research so when someone says something ridiculous like iq is based on race, that you're ready to come right back and say that is completely bogus. that's not real science. that's been disproven. you know, you have to frame the interview correctly and you have to be ready and armed with facts to be able to push back really aggressively on things that are not true. so the ethics are yes, of course, we have to cover these people. it's not like if we deny the media coverage that they don't exist but we have to give the proper context and really cover it responsibly and this is important because we can't do lazy both sides journalism. what bothers me is people who try to say if we cover black lives matter then we have to cover the white supremacist. those are not two sides of the same coin. black people are arguing not to be attacked by the police is not the opposite side of white

supremacists saying they are better than evening else. there are a lot of difficult issues and they have to trade caref -- tread carefully. >> when we cover white nationalist, we can hide although i don't think we should. no matter how we describe them, we have to recognize when we're interviewing these folks or pointing cameras at them, we are -- they are viewing it as a chance to recruit. that's my concern, jeff, they are viewing it as a chance to recruit followers. what is your view on what she said? >> i'm sorry, is that to me, brian? >> yes. >> look, what i'm -- what i think is that clear minds have to be drawn and i'm remembering when trent lot said about therman, the segregationist who run, the country would be better off if elected. it was a republican president

george w. bush that not only slapped him down but presided over his loss of his role as senate republican leader and the fact we have a president now who whatever people want to say is clearly attracting from the moment he announced elements of white nationalism is one of the reasons why we're in this predicame predicament. it's a reason why laura ingraham can say what she said in direct line of succession to the people on the 1850s that said german and irish catholics were a threat to the direct lines from "the new york times" editorial more than 100 years ago praising the lynching of italians in new orleans because the sneaky sicilians were bandits. it's a direct line that's been in the country not just about blacks, god knows that's the most egregious and the most important part i would argue does not lie with the media, though i think it's correct to say we have to know how to approach these issues but when you have a president of the

united states who persistently refuses to draw a bright clear line between white supremacy and racism on the one hand and the rest of the country on the other, that's where the fundamental problem lies. >> april ryan, what's your take? i wonder if i've lost april. maybe i don't have her at the moment. well, all right. i think we lost april but i want to thank the panel and keep in mind, as we head into tonight and this rally at lafayette park, there is going to be a counter protest with many, many more people and i think part of this issue about how to cover the hate groups is make sure we're spending a lot of time covering the positive as well as the hate as well as negative. quick break here on "reliable sources" and then sean hannity and his fresh attempt to discredit the mueller investigation. we're going to break down how he did it this time with the help

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>> hey, welcome to the sean hannity show. jay sekulow and rudy giuliani. we could start all kinds of speculation. >> this would be funny if it weren't so serious. off all the people hannity could have fill in for him, he went with the president's lawyer and gave him throuee hours to laught up and defend the president and that's revealing and reveals how the protrump media world works hand and hand with trump. it is a crollaboration that hels trump but hurts the public. why? because trump's defenders are drawing attention away from what matters most, russia's efforts to attack america back then and happening again now. by making this all about trump and swearing he's innocent and saying he's the victim, they are missing the big issue. >> a lot of questions about this investigation surely looks like an illegitimate investigation,

the president of the united states said it's a witch hunt and you can describe it a lot of ways a hoax like gregg's book but the questions keep falling out. >> he mentions gregg's book, first-name basis. gregg jarrett claiming the probe is an illegal plot to overturn the election. millions of people believe this stuff. the president apparently believes this stuff. he's always using the word illegal and rigged witch hunt. trump promoted the book not once, not twice but three times on twitter and that's how it works. it's like a house of mirrors where you see the same thing over and over and over again. except it's distorted. >> most of the news these days, i was making a joke that sometimes you're making the news, sometimes you're in the news and sometimes you're just talking about the news. these days i am doing both.

or all three. i'm making the news, talking about the news and have been in the news. >> that is true. the president's lawyers keep talking and talking and talking so much they are for now driving the news narrative about mueller's probe. meanwhile, mueller's team is only speaking through court filings and trials so trump's team speaks so much that i think we risk forgetting what this is about. remember, the special counsel was ordered to investigate russia's actions and any links. the word collusion never appears in the document. this has never been about collusion. it's about coordination, conspiracy, russia's attempts to divide americans. gop senator ben sass called out what he said is the trump centric framing and said the press is contributing to the problem, too and the result is few americans understand putin's agents are now picking at the scabs of every cultural problem

we have from race to guns to media tribes. that's the one thing roudy is nt talking about, he's playing politics offering a counter narrative to the base trying to win in the court of public opinion. he yaks on cable news, trump hears it, reflects it on twitter and that's how the hall of mirrors continues. here is a great example, mark lavine dined with them. keep that coziness in mind when you hear this. >> robert mueller is a greater threat to this republican, the constitution than anything vladimir putin did during the campaign and i'm no fan of vladimir putin. >> what questions exactly does mr. mueller have? i'm talking to yo, mr. mueller. exactly what questions you have where you seek to turn this country upside down and disenfranchise the over 60 million people that voted for this president of the united states. >> his colleague has been promoting that same line of

thinking. in the protrump media world the real conspiracy is about barack obama and hillary clinton trying to stop trump from winning. he went after mueller again saturday night and told him to get a defense attorney. trump keeps hearing this and reacting and reflecting to fans. on sunday morning here he is apparently tweeting out to the rant. that's what lead the ace reporter to react by saying it's been 15 months into the special counsel probe and i'm still not convinced trump understands the depth and breadth of the investigation and his own public statements and tweets created for him. so why is that? why doesn't trump get it? it's because of the protrump media world. it's because of this hall of mirrors. trump doesn't trust the fact checks. he doesn't trust the people trying to explain to him how serious this probe is. he sometimes doesn't seem to trust the intelligence about russia's interference. he only trusts his fox friends.

trump willingly walked into this house of mirrors. heck, he helped build it. but does he know how to get out? and that's my essay for today. quick break here and then hadas gold is standing by to talk about the sinclair tribune deal that's off and an interesting coordination between more than 100 newspapers. we'll get to that in just a moment. what will you discover with a lens made by essilor?

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coming soon to a newspaper near you, an editorial about the dangers of president trump's attacks on the press. to say, hey, we're not the enemy of the people. the globe tells me more than 100 papers signed up so far with more joining the effort every day. the editorials will all come out

on thursday. let's talk about this with cnn's adas gold. >> it is a sign of solidarity and should be commended they are doing these editorials especially coming from the differing voices that each newspaper will be doing their own and not running their same editorial. i have to question how much of an effect it will have on people who are already not trusting the press, already think there's so much quote/unquote fake news out there. i think what really needs to be focused on is something that takes a lot of time and something that's expensive. that's educating people, both in schools and educating how to read the news and know what's trust worthy and not and getting more on the ground local reporters, where they are interacting face to face with our readers and viewers and getting them to understand how we do our jobs and why we do our jobs the way we do. that's where you're going to get more trust in the media. and not so much from an editorial. as commended as it should be. >> yeah, one more story you've

been thinking about this week. it's trying to get bigger now that the deal has collapsed. whose the ultimate winner now that sinclair lost its chance to buy these tv stations. >> it's so stunning this deal fell apart. if you would have asked us six months ago we would have said it's going to sail through. really amazing and there's a lot to question in terms of government regulation and how that came about with the fcc but ultimate winner in all of this is rupert murdoch, becoming more and more of a threat as they take on the conserve testify brand and having a more national impact. now they won't be as big. but now fox could potentially come in and buy tribune stations or at least some of the tribune stations and expand their own local tv footprint, especially now that new fox is going to be spun out and that's where they are going to be focusing some of the efforts on local tv. so now the sinclair fox rivalry can continue but ultimately for rupert murdoch, it has been an

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