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after six years at cnn, four with our show, heading off to graduate school in london. we're confident he will be successful in everything he does down the road. he's a great guy. stephen, thank you, you will be missed. erin burnett, "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next. trump's top money man granted immunity. could allen weisselberg, said to be like family to trump be the greatest threat to him yet. plus, a top "national enquirer" editor for decades on reports of a safe with negative stories about president trump. did the publisher david pecker also let trump prescreen stories? and what did that -- what was it that left trump fuming last night? let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erica hill in tonight for erin burnett. out front, trump the money man.
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granted immunity in the michael cohen investigation according to a source familiar with the matter. he was someone very close with trump. some say like a family member and another source says allen knows where all the financial information is buried. listen to a man who worked for trump for years. >> he knows everything about donald, and in terms of the money trail, donald can be hurt, i believe a great deal by allen weisselberg. >> he knows every single financial transaction. he's responsible for creating the business system they had there. >> i do believe he got more and more involved as time went on, and donald trusted him. he was almost a family member. >> listen, you don't have to tear their world for it. donald trump wrote in his 2004 book "think like a billionaire" weisselberg is so top most banks would rather i negotiate the
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deal than him. a loyal employee and ultimate master at playing the parts of business. but will weisselberg remain loyal? his interview with investigators focused on cohen's hush deals to silence women who claimed they had affairs with donald trump. the hush money paid leading up to the elections in 2016. cohen pleated guilty and said he paid hush money at then candidate trump's direction. this comes one day after the "wall street journal" reported another trump ally, "national enquirer" publisher david pecker granted immunity to tell what he knew. so you've got two longtime trump allies, pecker and weisselberg granted immunity and three other former trump associates cooperating with special counsel robert mueller. is it any wonder that this is what president trump has to stay
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about people "flipping." >> if somebody defraud add bank and he's going to get ten years in yale or 20 years in jail, but if you say something bad about donald trump and you go down to two or three years it's called flipping and almost ought to be illegal. ten years in jail, but if you say bad things about somebody, in other words, make up stories, if you don't know, make up -- they just make up lies. >> and f"outfront," could weisselberg be the most damages yet? >> he could. depends on the terms of the immunity deal struck with the u.s. attorney's office in manhattan and the bretadth or hw narrow it is. we know weisselberg's deal was struck a couple weeks ago. he went in, talked to investigators at the time. a source tells us the focus of the questions were about michael cohen and hush money payments and weisselberg has not been asked to return, suggesting that
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this could be a limited deal, but something we don't know. the trump organization, their attorney declined to comment and the u.s. attorney's office declined to comment on this also. the key here is weisselberg. he is so close to the, to president trump, as you just heard from all of those employees that used to work there, and when trump was -- when he assume the presidency, he put his sons in charge of the company and also weisselberg. showing how trusted he is, erica. he is going to know a lot of information, and the really going to turn on just exactly what those terms of that immunity deal are. >> fascinating to see the exact terms. wouldn't it? thank you. "outfront" senior analyst mark pressman and jennifer rogers and "new york times" columnist frank bruni. as we look at this, during this conversation that michael cohen secretly recorded with donald trump, he talks about one of those payments. allen weisselberg's name is mentioned. listen to this. >> i need to open up a company
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for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. you know, so that i'm -- need do to that right away. >> give to me. >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about ho w to set te whole thing up with funding -- >> so begs the question, of course, we know what an integral part weisselberg has been for the trump organization. could this particular episode just be the tip of the iceberg? >> certainly could be. in boxing we call this, we would call it a one-two punch. only two people. in this scenario, it's been a one-two-three punch for president trump. you had his political fixer michael cohen flip. you had one of his close friends, somebody working with michael cohen to squelch stor s stories, to help president trump's campaign, he has flipped. and now you have allen weisselberg and i think -- the importance of this really can't be overstated. one, he oversaw trump's charity.
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two, he's done trump's taxes and what was said just before we came to this segment here. the most important thing. he is the not only non-family trustee of president trump's financial trust. he knows everything. >> and that he does. fascinating, just over a year ago president trump was speaking with the "new york times," and talked about finances specifically as being a red line when it comes to the mueller investigation. take a listen to that. >> mueller is looking at your finances, your family's finances unrelated to russia subpoena that a red line? >> would that be a breach of what his actual -- >> i would say -- yes. i would say, yes. >> so, again, that was in reference to the mueller investigation. talking about michael cohen obviously this is the u.s. attorney here in new york, but jennifer, as we look at this, it's important to remember, this president doesn't get to determine with all due respect where the red line is, in this investigation. >> that's exactly right.
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mueller's investigation is narrowly circumstances. under the supervision of rod rosenstein. writ whan it's supposed to encompass, only the campaign's involvement with russian interference and if they're federal crimes they can investigate. there's no red line, really. of course, the president still could fire the attorney general, and try to put pressure on the new attorney general or even jeff sessions to quash that investigation, but it's not like the mueller probe where it actually is kind of cabined there. so it could go into just even beyond the campaign finance allegations, into the trump organization itself and look for criminal activity happening there of the sort that the corporations often do. like tax fraud, accounting fraud. the sky to be the limit if somebody really wants to start exploring that. >> and fascinating. look at this simply from the financial aspect.
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we know this president does not -- likes to talk about money but doesn't like to talk about his personal finances. tax returns a perfect example. and the president's tax returns, talked about it -- this could be significant? >> and significant is a key word you just used. donald trump spent his life accumulating secrets and spending energy on nothing so much as keeping those things hidden, uncultivating and managing his image. looking around, people who know different things intntimately. know him well and are talking to investigators, prosecutors, he has no control. alarming is when donald trump feels this vulnerable, impotent, he lashes out, bites back. i think the next couple days and weeks will be scary and utterly unpredictable. >> the reporting we've seen,
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too. in the "washington post," the "new york times," when backed into a corner, everyone around will tell you it's when he lashes out. seen the tweets. there was the late-night light at the white house earlier this week. and also the comments he's making. even in that fox interview. >> think back, think to the "access hollywood" when that was revealed. apology took an 15 seconds and then he went on the attack. brought all the clinton accusers to the debate. that's what donald trump ask when feeled cornered. what's will happen in the future? >> and a possible pardon for paul manafort. looking at that as an option, rudy giuliani talked to the president. listen, here's why this is a bad idea politically, he says. republican lawmakers trying to send a message to the president this may not look good. what kind of a precedent would it set if the president did decide to pardon paul manafort? >> i'm not sure it would really set a precedent in the sense
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that you have to hope that no future presidents would be crazy enough to do such a thing. it's such an outrageous thing to do, to pardon someone your own self-interest. i don't know about the precedent. an utter abuse of power to pardon paul manafort for the purpose of getting him to stay on trump's side and not cooperate with law enforcement. hopefully a political remedy. sadly, there's not a legal remedy to that, but such an abuse of power you would have to hope congress could finally act. >> one of the fascinating things, look at all this. the president has a very strong base and not much rattles that base. we sent jason carroll to one town in pennsylvania that voted for president trump in 2016 and asked specifically about this issue of a pardon. listen to the answer. >> the president better watch about the pardons. when he does that, it looks like it was set up by him with the last couple of tweets he had.
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sticks up for -- who is it the guy they're talking about? >> manafort. >> he's a great guy. wonderful, everything else. he's kind of sending a message that, if you stick with me. i will pardon you. >> mark is that a message when it's coming from a voter? that you think would actually get through to the president in a different way than say one of his advisers or a lawmaker? >> will it get through to the president? i don't know. just that comment there, though, gives you more faith in the american people. just goes to show you how they're not tuned in to every moving moment of it. he didn't even know paul manafort's name. for all of us it's on the tip of our tongue but it is a crime example of donald trump going one step too far. when you add this in, quickly, because it's important here, when you add in what he said about paul manafort, not knowing him and then when he gets convicted, says glowing things about him and same time, why are they going after him for things that happened years ago?
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years ago, years ago? you have to wonder. if is thinking to himself will they come after me somehow for things done years ago, years ago, years ago? >> interesting thing to end on. and up next, lashing out at jeff sessions. new details about the president's state of mind when it comes to his attorney general. and the a.p. reporting a safe at the "national enquirer" and locked inside, damaging stories about president trump. can that be true? well, my guest worked there 30 years. we'll ask him. plus, president trump abruptly pulling the u.s. out of a key meeting with north korea taking his own state department by surprise. will kim jong-un retaliate? nt! ...where you can shop with confidence and convenience plus get these 4 benefits from kenmore at sears. up to fifty percent off appliances with your sears card. like this washer and dryer for $539.99 each. and this refrigerator for $899.99. hurry in to sears today. at&t provides edge-to-edge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your healthcare business. so that if she has a heart problem
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white house residence last night after jeff sessions issued that statement publicly rebuking the president saying he actually took control of the department of justice the day he sworn in and wasn't going to let politics influence his agenda while there. the president didn't like sessions pushing back forcefully, was angry about that statement last night and we're seeing a relationship deteriorating over the last year and a half spill back into the public view this week. once again raises a question here in washington, if the president is so angry with jeff sessions why doesn't he fire him? we're told by sources even though the president is complaining about attorney general sessions saying that investigation needs to be brought to an end he seems to recognize the limits here, because he thinks firing jeff sessions would cross a line with robert mueller and so far even though he's come very close to firing jeff sessions on multiple occasions and only had advisers talk him out of doing so, so far
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he hasn't gone that far yet fearing he would be crossing a line with robert mueller. this week raises the question even more how long this can last. it feels as if the feud between the two of them is taking a much different turn seeing them publicly push back against one another. such an unnatural thing for a relationship between the president and the attorney general. the question is, how long will it be before the president finally decides to make that decision? what i was told from one source familiar with what jeff sessions said in that statement, seemed as if he was daring the president to fire him. erica? >> well, interesting to see, as you point out as we wait and wonder. thank you. "outfront" now, democratic congressman reporting on the judiciary and foreign reses committ -- relations committee. republicans nong protective of jeff sessions. that may be starting to change. take a listen. >> -- for the office and the
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country and after the election i think there will be some serious discussions about a new attorney general. >> serious discussions after the election? and senator chuck grassley chairs the committee said yesterday they'll be able to take up a new nomination this year. do you foresee a new attorney general before the end of the year? >> thank you, erica for your question. i believe that if donald trump either pardons paul manafort or firing attorney general jeff sessions that would cross a red line and he would be firing jeff sessions, because he wants to make sure that he's got someone else in place that can run interference on the mueller investigation that would lean towards obstruction of justice. that is why the president hasn't fired him as of yet i believe and hope the president doesn't do that. >> do you want jeff sessions to stay on? do you support him at attorney general? >> i do. i think jeff sessions has pushed
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back against the president, in terms of maintaining the independence of the judiciary and the judicial department at the department of justice. i also want to note donald trump tweeted basically an enemies list and asked jeff sessions to go after those people. that's completely disgraceful. what makes america great, our law enforcement took an oath to the constitution not to donald trump. they'll follow the constitution no matter how much the president yells and screams. >> pointing that out, you talk about the fact you do support the attorney general. have been critical of him in the past especially meeting with russian officials. either you're lying to the u.s. senate or to the u.s. house of representatives. looking at his different testimony there. are you in the same place when it comes to your feelings on jeff sessions when you look back at the past comments? >> yes. i am highly critical of jeff sessions. his policies, and the anti-immigrant policies are bad for america, but in terms of what he's doing now and
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preserving the independence of the department of justice, that's a good thing. he's pushing back against the president to maintain the integrity of the professional agents and prosecutors at the department of justice and why i think it would be a red line if the president tried to fire jeff sessions. >> redline tried to hire him. talk a little about paul manafort. a lot made whether the president may, may not, grant a pardon to paul manafort. that's also a red line? >> absolutely. the reason that the president would want to pardon paul manafort is not because he thinks paul manafort shouldn't have been convicted of tax and bank fraud. it's because he doesn't want paul manafort to flip on him and to give information to the government. that also would be an unjustice, if the president pardon the paul manafort and i hope he does not do that as well. >> you've never been one to shy away, as we know from criticizing the president, letting him know how you feel. you've talked about him in the
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past, taunted him, twittered about it and something we're not hearing much from democrats these days. why the step back from talking about impeachment when it was a talking point so long? a concern about political liability? >> i have no said that the president should be impeached. i have said is, if after the investigation special counsel mueller is done and we look at it and there's evidence of conspiracy or collusion with the russians, yes, the president should be impeached or if he committed other crime. right now we know michael cohen testified under oath and implicated the president in committing two felony violations of the campaign finance laws. that's very serious. in the house, the judiciary committee needs to hold hearings to see if the president committed these felonies in particular because the department of justice issued guidelines saying they won't indict a sitting president and it now falls back on the congress to see if the president in fact committed felonies. >> what are your thoughts about allen weisselberg granted
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immunity in that case against michael cohen? >> it is very striking to me that the u.s. attorney for the district of new york has granted immunity not just to allen weisselberg, ceo of the trump organization, also two other individuals. dachd pe david pecker, dillon howard. tells me the prosecutors are intent prosecuting violations, that's a good thing. our democracy depends op upholding the laws. for the president of the united states to be implicated in two of these felonies is a major deal and why congress needs to hold hearings on the issue as soon as we come back from recess, and the house of representatives. >> appreciate your time. >> thank you, erica. "outfront" next, reports of a safe at the "national enquirer" used to store stories that could be embarrassing to president trump. is there really a safe? we're going to ask a top
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tonight, inquiring minds want to know -- whashgs -- what is in the safe? damaging stories about president trump and details about hush money locked away in a safe. publisher david packer has been granted immunity who has protected donald trump for years accused of catching and killing negative stories about the president long before he was in the white house. could pecker now be the one who takes the president down? "outfront" is jerry george worked for the "national enquirer" 28 years served assessed tabloid's bureau chief. can you firm this? >> yes, erica. you know, as archaic as it sounds, there was such a device
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in this digital age where, you know, particularly sensitive story files, including source agreements and contracts and page proofs were stored for access and protection. >> would the only copy of those stories and those agreements be in that safe and, if so if destroyed, would that be it or another copy that lives somewhere else, eve's digitally? >> there probably would be much of the content preserved, you know, on a hard drive. but, you know, the actual physical signatures may, on the contacts may actually be in that safe. >> how many safes are we talking about? >> well, you know, i worked out of the los angeles office, and we had one and i know that the new york office had one and i think that's the one we're referring to. >> especially in the new york office. would this only have been filled with stories about president trump? or what else could be in there?
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>> no. it could turn out to be quite a pandora's box. i mean, i think anything sensitive, any story that might be potentially litigious, even post-publication, the actual file and contracts would be held in that safe. a lot of interesting information on a lot of important people. kept on hard copy in a safe. >> you mentioned there was one in the l.a. bureau, too, where you were. who had access to that? could you go into that safe anytime you wanted? >> yes. >> and was the practice the same then in new york, to your knowledge? >> yes. yes. the bureau chief which at the time was barry levine, you know, had the combination. and could open it at will. it also stored, you know, valuables, such as cameras and cash. anything remotely sensitive was kept in the safe. >> so you were at there when
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david pecker took over at ceo in 1999. you said when he came over an edict came down specifically about donald trump. no negative stories would ever appear in an american media publication. tell us more about that. >> well, erica, you know, when david pecker arrived, he sort of brought with him a silent editor. that was, you know, donald trump. they have a long-standing friendship, and david brought that to the table when he accepted the position as ceo. >> you said a silent editor. does that mean he gave donald trump power to kill stories or to even direct stories? >> that's exactly what i mean. he relished the, you know, the proximity to donald trump and he gave him great access.
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donald trump, as you know, loves publicity. it's not that stories, you know, were -- there were no stories done, but everything done was done with a glow to it. >> a glow. and a sheen perhaps some might say. the "washington post" reporting during the presidential campaign, that the ""enquirer" would send stories about donald trump and also his political opponents to his attorney michael cohen and he could weigh in. sort of leads us to understand why the coverage was the way it was. obviously during the campaign in terms of what we saw about hillary clinton and what we saw about donald trump. i know you were gone by then, but this had started out before then. talk about being the silent editor. also in 2010, the a.p. reporting at cohen's urging the "inquienq" a potential donald trump kand
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candidakand -- candidacy. you can there. what was that directive? >> i was and i remember that editorial stand. they were very pro-donald trump in the early days, and with their help, you know, he was propelled into the presidential timber. no one thought he would actually get elected, but in the end, that's what happened. and american media had a role in that. >> and also endorsed him as a candidate, which they had never done before. >> of course. the first time they ever endorsed a presidential candidate. >> and donald trump, you know, in many ways repaid the favor. here's a little of what he had to say. >> the "national enquirer" did a story, actually have a very good record of being right. >> i've always said, why didn't the "national enquirer" get the pulitzer prize for edwards and o.j. simpson and all of these things? >> you can't knock the "national enquirer." it's brought many things to light. not all pleasant.
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>> glowing words there for the "national enquirer." you talked about how when david pecker came on he and donald trump already had a friendship. he brought in a new edict. do you think david pecker would turn on donald trump? >> i think ultimately, to save his own skin, he may not have a choice. >> what do you think -- >> i mean, i think he's under a lot -- >> -- does he know that's so damaging? >> david pecker knows where the bodies are buried. david pecker knows all of the trump stories that were killed. all of the story leads. he -- pretty much knows the worst of -- president trump's personal life. >> what else do you know of that would be out there that would have either been killed or perhaps the president would have pre-screened and said he didn't want it published?
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>> i know of stories involving, you know, marital discord. i know of stories of infidelities on the president's part. and also stories on the children. i mean -- between the trumps and the kushners, they have more skeletons in the closet than the "addams family " as the joke goes. >> and that also applied to, it's my swhaens you're saying it applied to his children. one imagine that applies to melania trump and perhaps ex-wives as well? >> especially. >> says peespecially which one? current or ex-wives? >> the ex-wives and melania. you know, very little is reported on their personal life, and, you know, the "national enquirer," which, you know,
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prize itself on being the -- the investigative tabloid that can eke out the most sensational stories turn add blind eye to everything unpleasant in that family. >> when it comes to the now president, screening stories as well, did that also apply to screening stories that may have been about his opponents, whether it be in business, or anybody with whom he had a feud? someone who was facing a presidential election? is it your sense he would also have been allowed to weigh in on those stories? >> i would go as far as to say that, you know, president trump and his team fed stories to the "national enquirer" on his political opponents. >> fascinating. appreciate you taking time for
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us tonight. in your words, david pecker very dangerous to president trump because he knows where all the bodies are buried. thank you for your time. >> my pleasure. thank you. "outfront" next, the "new yorker" reports trump advisers passed around a memo charging former top obama staffers with conspires against trump. one of the obama officials named in the memo is "outfront." word today a true american hero, senator john mccain is refusing further treatment in his battle with cancer. dr. sanjay gupta, who has spoken to the senator's doctor in the past is my guest. revving ] flo needs help?! [ engine revving ] take me to her! ♪ coming, flo! why aren't we taking roads?! flo. [ horn honking ] -oh. you made it. do you have change for a dollar? -this was the emergency? [ engine revving ] yes, i was busy! -24-hour roadside assistance. from america's number-one motorcycle insurer. -you know, i think you're my best friend.
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stuns the state department. caught completely off guard when president trump canceled secretary of state mike pompeo's trip next week to north korea. he tweeted i asked secretary of state mike pompeo not to go to north korea at this time because i feel we are not making sufficient progress with respect to the denuclearization of north
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korea. "outfront" now, former national security adviser to vice president biden, collin kahl, good to have you with us. is this the right call on north korea? >> it might be the right call but as usual threw a monkey wrench into the process catching the state department a little unaware. mike pompeo, secretary of state, named a new envoy for the korean negotiations yesterday, steve biegun, a good guy, but i think as was the case a few months ago when trump kind of prematurely canceled the summit with kim jong-un before replanning the summit with kim jong-un, appears to have caught the state department a little flat-footed. >> overall, you do believe it was the right call? >> the right call because of no meaningful movement on denuclearization, but that was
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expected. the summit held this past june, it created theater and a nothing burger of a summit statement, and the two sides just don't agree on even the meaning of denuclearization let alone what steps need to be taken. >> i also want to ask about this "new yorker" report about a memo circulated in 2016 12017 accusi and other obama officials to undermine president trump's foreign policy. names you as the likely ops chief. your reaction? >> the memo is kind of bananas. i worked for the white house about two and a half years and have known people who worked at the nec many years. we haven't seen anything like this. looked around at the memo bouncing around at the nsc, commissioned or circulated,
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alleges a vast conspiracy of former obama officials orchestrating a media and deep state campaign to undermine trump's foreign policy. it's definitely nuts, but what the "new yorker" article also made clear, there are a lot of similarities between this mystery memo and some of the shenanigans done by the israeli intelligence firm black cube, targeting me and ben rhodes and our families around the same time period. >> do you think that's a coincidence? >> no. i mean i don't have evidence it's not a coincidence, but there are striking similarities to include the emphasis on the so-called echo chamber that was used to promote the iran deal. you know, alleged attacks on the deputy assistant president to trump at the time. striking similarities between the conspiracy memo and the black cube operations, which were targeted at me and my wife and ben rhodes and his wife. >> talking about those that went
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after you specifically. a big article, it's fascinating and a little scary. if we look at memo specifically, on one hand you could say, why wouldn't people who had just finished their job in one administration who believed deeply in some of the policies they were orking on for this administration and the obama administration's legacy, why wouldn't they band together to try to promote that narrative? even former secretary of state john kerry meeting with the iran foreign minister to try to save the iran deal. >> look, it's not crazy in some respects. a lot of people mentioned in the memo are friends. a lot of us former colleagues. not all of us. the notion there was a vast conspiracy where essentially we ran a war room every day that tanked the media and the deep state to block trump's agenda, that's the nutso part. also strange is the at least in my time at the white house and the national security council, i don't remember anybody ever
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know in the past we've talkin' to senator mccain's doctors. you're a neuro surgeon, though, who's also dealt with this condition. when you heard the news, what were you thoughts? >> i was sad. it's a tough thing to hear. not entirely unexpected given how aggressive this particular cancer is. it's gioblastoma, dbm. many have heard this term. for those who haven't, it's an aggressive brain cancer. this is one that happens to be in the brain. median survival is about 14 months. i started my training in neuro surgery or 25 years ago, over the last quarter century we haven't really made much progress in terms of decreasing the mortality for this tumor. >> it's also a tough decision for anyone to make to discontinue treatment. walk us through that
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conversation for both the patient and for the patient's family. >> i think with something like this the conversations begin almost immediately. you'll remember it was back in july of last year, so 13 months ago senator mccain had this blood collection just behind his left eyebrow. that's when they removed the tumor and it was found to be subsequently geoblastoma. here are the options, here's the potential side effects and you're constantly doing a risk analysis. and at some point you say, look, either the treatment is not working or the risk and toll that these treatments are taking on my body are greater than the benefits. it could be that his family in part helped him make this
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decision because he may not be as equipped to make it decision himself right now. we don't know how it goes. >> he was so upbeat in talking about when sitting down with jake tapper a year ago, that he felt so fortunate that he could celebrate his wonderful life. having that attitude, you know, just in your experience and i think all of us just in life we know that's not just helpful for the patient but the family around them, too, to know someone is at peace with where they are in this journey. >> i think so, and i think these fall into the realm of antidotal. you hear these stories of survivorship and courage and grit. to be compliant with his treatment, to do everything he can to fight back against this disease i think that helps certainly him objectively but also helps his family.
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but i think that they probably collectively now have come to this conclusion over the past couple of weeks that again either the treatment is not working or it's taken too much of a toll. i understand he may have a had a seizure last week and had a bit of a decline. it's a tough decision to make. >> absolutely. dr. sanjay gupta, always appreciate it. out front next hurricane lane bearing down on hawaii. winds driving dangerous brush fires along with up to 40 inches of rain expected. we're live in honolulu. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes. start them off right, with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. like these for only $2 or less at office depot officemax. mom: okay we need to get all your school supplies today. school... grade... done. done. hit the snooze button
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comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. break news, hawaii bracing for hurricane lane. now a category one storm just south of the island. the most powerful winds expected to hit tonight. there's already massive flooding. the hurricane expected to dump over 40 inches of rain in some areas. and all that rain causing land slides on the island. and if that's not enough brush fires have now broken out in maui. this is rough to say the least. >> reporter: yeah, i mean where we are in honolulu right now we are bracing for the storm to reach us. the surf is up, the wind is gusty and that should be here.
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those heavy winds, those rains here within the next few hours. now, the storm has been moving from the south to the north. as you mentioned big island, 40 inches of rain in places. 4-0, that is immense. so the ground there is so saturated any new rainfall just slides right off as a flash flood. now, some tourists have had to be rescued down there from a rental home, and moving further north maui all flights have been canceled. we don't know what started those brush fires but we know the wind has been whipping those flames. one of those flames jumped a highway. more than 100 homes have been evacuated. the storm is now a category one. the weaker it gets, the trade winds will push it out to sea. but the slower it moves, the longer it lingers over places the more rain it dumps. and the rain and the storm surge, just the water, that is
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going to be the problem this hurricane brings to the hawaiian islands. in fact, the mayor of honolulu he said earlier, listen, if we get even half the rain the big island got, that's going to be some major, major problems. >> ac 360 starts right now. it could be a big flipping deal for the president. john berman here in for anderson. the man who for decades kept donald trump's books, ran his charity, even signed his tax returns is now cooperating with michael cohen. there may be no human being on earth who knows more about the president's finances and he's been talking to the feds. let that sink in buzz you know president trump has. even as we're reporting our thoughts are with senator mccain and his family. today they announced
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