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you can imagine all of the thoughts that they are having right now as they say good-bye to their dad. there's a lot going on emotionally for all of them, i'm sure. >> becky, we see the former vice president is there. we also see larry fitzgerald, the great nfl star there. they will be paying their tribute among others, including family members. >> yeah. what i'm seeing as the camera has been showing the crowd and as you're seeing the pallbearers he selected, there are so many touches and things that are qui quintessentially arizona. obviously they'll have the service at the national cathedral on saturday, but it's clear to me that this service is really paying tribute to this state that he loved. i know we've said that a lot over the last few days, but i think that that can't be overstated. there are obviously representatives of the native american community there. you saw people wearing their
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hunting gear. obviously larry fitzgerald being there. senator mccain was a huge fan of the arizona sports teams. it's very touching to see all of these really important pieces of the state represented in this service that is taking place in his home state. >> the welcome and invocation will be delivered by the senior pastor, dr. garcia. the casket is now being brought into this church. charlie dent, you're watching this and you see everyone stand. let's pause for a moment.
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you may be seated. on behalf of the mccain family, thank you all so much for being here this morning, as we remember and celebrate the life of senator john mccain. a true american hero, a man loved by this church, a man loved by this nation and this city, a man of courage, a man of faith, and a man who dearly loved his family. as we celebrate and get into the service, i want to offer you a word of scripture from the word of god that will bring us
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comfort. it comes from the book of 1 theselonians. the word of god says this. brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind who have no hope. for we believe that jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that god will bring with jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. what a word of promise, hope and comfort from the word of god. let's pray together. father in heaven, the creator and maker of all things, there is nothing new under the sun for you, father, you know all things before they happen. and this morning, lord, we pray for the friends and family of senator mccain.
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we will grieve, we will mourn, father, but we will do so with a different hope because of the faith he has placed in jesus christ, that we can with confidence grieve with the hope to know that this very moment he is spending eternity with jesus christ, his lord and savior. what a comfort. that's isnn jesus' name we pray amen. ♪ amazing grace how sweet the
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1-2. to everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under the heaven, a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to pluck up which is planted. >> i was 28 years old and i had only been a public defender a few years out of law school. for some reason john mccain asked me to be his chief of staff when he got elected.
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so on my first day at 7:00 a.m., john mccain picked me up at my house. i went to the car and i said, well, do you want me to drive? he goes, no, no, i'm going to drive. so i said i can sit in the back seat. i'm no expert on this, but i thought the staff drove. no, get in the car, boy, get in the car. for the next half hour, we just talked about the football games the day before and whatever was in the news and politics and told a few jokes. it was at the same time just really a lot of fun and also quite terrifying, because of his ridiculously bad driving. he'd get excited and he would kind of -- you know, he drove like this anyway and then he would get excited and just start drifting off. i'm like hello over there. so we finally got where we were going. i say, oh, hey, by the way, what
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are we doing? he goes, oh, i hired the whole staff and i want you to meet them. okay, that's good. so we met the staff and then we went back to the car. we got in the car and all the staff came out and they were all waving and things. i said they seem to be very nice. he said, oh, you're going to have to fire half of them. what? what are you talking about? and he just sped off. the staff was waving. about one minute later, we went right back by because he had gone the wrong way, of course, and waved again. and i just say that two hours kind of epitomized the next 35 years for me with john mccain. it was once a little harrowing, a little wild, a little crazy, but a lot of fun. the greatest honor of my life. i have people ask me all the time, did you ever know in those
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early years, did you have a feeling you had someone so special there. and my answer is yes, absolutely. no question about it. and i'll tell you one -- the first time. it was december and it was over in my hometown of mesa, arizona. we were at a rotary club. i think it was all men at that time. and, you know, these are tough guys, kind of cynical about things. here's this new guy in town. and one of them asked him since it was december, he asked him what about christmas in prison? and he told them a couple of stories. he told them about one night when he was being interrogated for quite a long time and it didn't go too well for his captors. they were upset with him and so they tied him up and tied the ropes tight. it was very painful and they left him there for the night. and some guard came in who he did not know and had never
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spoken to. at 10:00 p.m. the guard walked in and unloosened the ropes. and at about 4:00 a.m., the guard came back and tightened them up again so that he wouldn't get in trouble. and john didn't know why that happened. but he found out a little clue a couple of weeks later right before christmas when he was standing in the dirt yard and that guard just walked up next to him. the guard didn't say a word, but with his sandal he drew a cross in the dirt. they looked at it for a minute, and then the guard rubbed it out and went on his way. and it was quiet in that room when john told that. and then he said, you know, on christmas eve we celebrated. and we got together under this
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bare light bulb and we sang christmas carols and we quoted bible verses that we could remember and we told the gospel story to each other. and i guess just that image of this band of brothers together in this god forsaken place singing to each other, and there at the front, our guy, john mccain. beaten up but not down, singing his favorite christmas carol, silent night, holy night, all is calm, all is bright, round yon virgin holy child. the words seem so far away from that place but they leaned on
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the faith of their fathers and their faith in each other and their faith in their country and their faith in god. i looked out into that audience there in my hometown and those were some of my peers and the peers of my parents. those were tough, independent guys. they're ranchers and farmers, there's some cowboys, businessmen, entrepreneurs, and they were crying. they saw in john mccain a little bit of what they hoped to see in themselves. they saw in john mccain the embodiment of values they hoped to see for their country. over the next few months and years john got to know this place, and he fell in love with arizona. he loved the people, our diversity, our native american
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community, our hispanic culture, and he loved the place, in particular the grand canyon, the colorado river. we floated down that twice together, and then he kept going back and back. he loved it. he hiked the canyon with jack not that long ago, rim to rim. he loved sedona. he loved this place. and if john mccain fell in love with arizona, arizona fell in love with john mccain. we ran a lot of races here, a lot of elections. he never lost. never really very close. arizona loved him. we had one little blip one time when he ran for the senate the first time. hoe called me on the phone and goes, well, boy, i think i might have screwed up. i go what? he said i was talking to the students at u of a and they said
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how come you're the only politician that comes down here, they only go to the retirement places. he said well, it's because you guys don't vote. those other dudes vote like 100%, you know. so you want people to come down here, you need to vote like they vote out at seizure world. i said you didn't say that, did you? because there's this big retirement community called leisure world in the east valley. they weren't real happy with their new nickname out there. so john said, like he always does, he said, okay, i screwed up, let's go, we've got to go out there. we. and so we went out. i remember we drove in and there was about a 90-year-old guy in a golf cartri right there, and he
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was giving us the finger. little did he know we both said that's great. we loved that. and john was like, hey, good to see you. good to see you, thank you, thank you. so we went in. he said, sorry about that and went to work. guess what, i think he won that about 85-15 in that election in that precinct. so we're going to miss so many things about him here in our state. his leadership here on these important issues. we're going to miss his sense of humor. we're going to miss his love of sports. he loved the teams, all of our teams. my love them, i mean love them like nonstop, okay. and he loved you guys, bits and gonza and shane. he really did. not a coincidence. he didn't become friends with just the best players but the best people, and he loved you
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guys. but i think we also worry here in arizona about a bigger picture, and i hope that what he stood for will maybe get renewed look in our country. that's what he would want. he would want us to -- okay, we recognize him now, but now let's get to work. i'm sure the vice president will talk about john and bipartisanship, but he believed so much that in the end when it's all said and done, this republican and democrat thing is not that important, is it? we're all americans. you've got to get to the point where we can work together as americans. his support of the military, i hope you members of congress will keep that strong. it was so important that he had their backs. and one other thing. john mccain believed in our constitution and he stood up for it. he fought for it every step of the way. so he would not stand by as
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people tried to trample the constitution or the bill of rights, including the first amendment. and you know what, he believed in the declaration of independence. when we proclaimed to the world that every single human being is important, every single human being is precious, every single person in this world has the right to live free, not because the government says so but because god gave us that right. so john mccain, his entire life stood by the freedom fighters across the world. he was there. he was there figuratively and literally by their side wherever they were, acknowledging their right to live free. it's a long and winding road that took him from that dirt yard in hanoi to the dirt backroads of hidden valley.
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but through it all, he was resolute. he was courageous every step of the way. and in arizona, he was our hero. i think you can see from this outpouring of support and love for john mccain that he was america's hero. senator john mccain from arizona. he served his country with honor. he fought the good fight. he finished the race. he kept the faith.
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now, my friend, we can finish the song. sleep in heavenly peace, sleep in heavenly peace. amen. [ applause ] >> well, i had the great opportunity of meeting congressman john mccain in washingt washington. i was visiting and he said you need to meet this congressman, this young maverick, full of energy. i said, oh, yeah? he said besides that, he's going to become president of the united states one of these days, so you need to meet him, so i said okay.
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so we met in virginia at -- my apologies. it was rough getting up here. alexandria. cindy and c.a. and myself, we had dinner at this nice little restaurant. and we chatted for a while and then all of a sudden with john mccain, you just bond. i mean there's something about his energy level that goes up, he starts talking, starts asking me about my background. of course i, not knowing him that well, asked him about his. before i knew it, we felt very comfortable with each other going back and forth. then i got enough nerve to ask him, i said, congressman, what was it that allowed you to be in a prisoner of war camp? what kept you together? and he said, well, he goes, you know, most people ask me how they treated me, and obviously
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they treated me pretty bad. but he goes, he said, one is my faith in god, my love for my family, and my faith in my country. he said those things kept me together. so we kept talking that evening. and as i thought about that discussion, and for this talk i wanted to reflect with you a reading from corinthians 13 which i think captures senator john mccain. corinthians 13. tho i should give away to the poor all that i possess and even give up my body to be burned, if i am without love, it will do me no good whatever.
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when you think about an individual like senator mccain, who suffered, who was in prison, was injured, and yet with all that was able to keep his faith together, his focus on his country, focus on his family, i believe that that period of time, those five years is where god molded this fantastic hero, where god took an opportunity to humble this young man who came from a military family. god used those minutes, those hours, those days, those years, to put together a human being that we'll be talking about the senator for generations.
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john mccain was a person who loved with his energy, who loved all of us, who loved his country. that evening while we were having dinner, he said when we get back to phoenix, we need to get together and have dinner. and of course back then i was pretty cocky. so i said, well, congressman, i know a number of congressmen and i know a couple of senators. you know, we always hear that. he says, well, no, when you get back, you give me a date and i'll be there. i said, well, i'm going to invite you to my house. us mexican americans love to cook and we love to have folks at our homes, if you're really going to be a friend. and he chuckled. so a couple of months later when i got back home, we called, set up a dinner at the house. and of course i was preparing
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all the stuff that you all know about and my homemade salsa. and i get a call from his office, they say he's running late. so i ask what's the problem? well, it's his birthday, he wanted to spend a little bit of time with his family. sorry, cindy. and of course i panic and say, you know, if he wants to cancel, i understand, please. they said, no, he made it very clear to us he's going to your house tonight to have dinner. so i scrambled and got a mariachi group. i figured i've got to do something really good. mexican food is not going to get me there. and luckily, they got there about ten minutes before he arrived, so when cindy and the congressman then walk into my house, the kitchen, the mariachi started playing, they're singing
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a traditional mexican birthday song in our culture. and of course john and cindy lit up and it was a great evening. we enjoyed the night. that's senator john mccain. he keeps his word. that's the senator that we've had all these years that sometimes we beat up on. that's the senator that i hope people can embrace what he stood for, for our country. and, yes, he was a maverick. in his first senatorial campaign, i get a call and it's him on the phone. i'm with father tony, a dear friend of mine, and they say he's -- you got the congressman on the phone. i don't know how he tracked me down, but we're in a restaurant. so i get the phone and he says,
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tommy, i'm running for the u.s. senate, i'm going to launch blah, blah, blah. you know john, he was going 100 miles an hour. so i'm like okay. he says i want you to co-chair my campaign. i said, well, john, you know i'm a democrat. i'm not sure that's going to help you with your republican campaign. i don't care, you're my friend. i want you to co-chair it. i said, well, let me sleep on it. no. no, no. you give me an answer right now, yes or no. of course i said yes. once again, senator john mccain. goes over to the other side. and don't forget, i was -- we were not the most conservative organization in the country. and we go back and forth.
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with john, you were either a friend or -- at the end of the day, we could go a couple of years without seeing each other, but when we did, it was like old home week. he was warm, he was energy. he was going 100 miles an hour, but yet he made time to be with you. and then the second time we get a call to come to las vegas. this is, of course, when he's in his presidential campaign. and we end up in las vegas with his two right-hand folks that have always run his campaigns, which i have the greatest respect for. so we do the quick chitchat and then john says i want you to speak on my behalf at the republican convention. senator, i want to remind you i'm a democrat. i don't care.
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i want you there. you're my friend, i want you there. i said, yes, i'll be there. he said, well, he says, with a big smile on his face, watch out when you start your car. i said, okay, senator, i'll do that. so john kind of put me out on the national scene. and i must confess he did a number of things that i could stand here all day and share with you different stories. i will tell you that that one time when we met is when meghan was on the tv program and i don't even remember the name of the tv program, meghan. but he said, well, you know, meghan is on tv now, and blah, blah, blah. i go yeah, okay. do you see her?
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no, senator, i don't watch tv that much. well, you start watching her. okay. so that was our great senator. as we were walking out, he asked my wife, he says, i've got a question for you. if i put a woman on our ticket as vice president, what do you think about that? well, my wife isn't the type that holds back. she's a mexican from mexico city, and they have a tendency of just telling you how it is, and of course the senator liked that. so she turns and she says, well, i really this care if it's a man or a woman. if something happens to you, i want to make sure that person can run the country. so john looked at her and says okay. he looked at his two guys. of course we walked out. needless to say we heard later who he had selected. but again, regardless, there was the senator again taking the
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risk of putting forth a woman for vice president of this great country of ours. so it's of no surprise, it's of no surprise also that he got together with kennedy to push for immigration reform because when he talked about immigration, it wasn't so much the politics of it, he would say, you know what, i can't believe these families that come from another country, from mexico, from central america, to work cutting our grass, feeding us, bringing in the labor force that we need, and now we turn on them? that really struck at the heart of what he thought our great country was about. i believe it cost him a presidential campaign. so to me it's very dear what the senator is about. to me john really did reflect
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our country in its true form. my father is a marine, passed away in february. once a marine, always a marine, he'd say. got wounded in guam, purple heart. when he talked about john mccain, he said, he understands us. he understands us. and i must confess, he did understand us. he understood all of us, whether it was white, black, brown, asian. to him it didn't make any difference. what he knew is that we all make america great. we all make america great. so i hope that in his legacy the senators, governors, mayors, city council members, elected officials, embrace the thought
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of love, because john reflected love, and love of a strong man. and that is nowadays hard to come by. so his legacy will go on for generations, because people will talk about senator john mccain as one of the greatest heroes in our lifetime. and with that, if you permit me, read timothy 2. as for me, my life is already being poured away as a libation and the time has come for me to depart. i have fought the good fight to the end. i have run the race to the finish. i have kept the faith.
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we all know how the story goes, a fiery navy pilot shot down by the north vietnamese over a lake near hanoi. as his plane is not in control he bailed out to plunge into the lake below. that pilot, a young john mccain, was taken hostage as a prisoner of war where he spent more than five and a half years, almost 2,000 days he would endure countless beatings, torture, solitary confinement, and mental and emotional anguish that none of us will ever have to endure. after getting to know senator mccain, i felt compelled to visit vietnam. i wanted to see the places where the will of john mccain was tested and forged. i saw the lake. i walked the steps. i sat in the cell. and the ordeal that my friend survived became all the more real. many people might wonder what a
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young african-american kid from minnesota and a highly decorated vietnam war hero turned united states senator might have in common. well, i thought of a few. i'm black, he was white. i'm young, he wasn't so young. he lived with physical limitations brought on by war. i'm a professional athlete. he ran for president, i run out of bounds. he was the epitome of toughness, and i do everything i can to avoid contact. i have flowing locks, and, well, he didn't. how does this unlikely pair become friends? i've asked myself this same question. but you know what the answer is, that's just who he is. over the several years i had the
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privilege of spending time with senator mccain, sometimes it was just a visit to our practices, other times it was him texting and saying you need to pick it up this sunday. i'm thankful that through these moments the opportunity that we had to share our lives and more importantly our stories. while from very different worlds, we developed a meaningful friendship. and this highlights the very rare and very special qualities of senator mccain that i came to deeply admire. he didn't judge individuals based on the color of their skin, their gender, their backgrounds, their political affiliations, or their bank accounts. he evaluated them on the merits of their character and the contents of their hearts. he judged them on the work they put in and the principles they lived by. it was this approach to humanity that made senator john mccain so respected by countless people
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around the world, including me. his accomplishments were many. u.s. senator, presidential candidate, statesman, warrior, and hero. his work ethic, tireless. his fight, legendary. but what made senator mccain so special was that he cared about the substance of my heart, more so than where i came from. while some might find our friendship out of the ordinary, it was a perfect example of what made him an iconic figure of american politics and service to fellow man. he celebrated differences. he embraced humanity. championed what was true and just, and saw people for who they were. yes, ours was an unlikely friendship, but it's one that i will always cherish. i've had the honor of attending several of the sedona forums hosted by senator mccain and his remarkable wife, cindy.
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they were world leaders in politics, business, science and education to discuss the most pressing matters of our time. issues like health care, global warming, technology and human trafficking. these leaders gathered to find real solutions, and they gathered because senator mccain asked them to be there. his devotion to making arizona, the united states and the whole world a better place for everyone has inspired countless leaders, like those at the sedona forums. i'm confident his legacy will continue to inspire people around the world long after today. a few years ago, he was kind enough to take me on a personal tour of the u.s. senate. it was obvious that senator mccain was highly regarded. he believed to be right and was good regardless of which political side of the aisle his opinion fell on. i saw how respected he was and
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how much admiration he commanded from people from across the political spectrum, but that admiration wasn't surprising, because senator mccain was known as a man of integrity and conviction. a man who at times just as he sacrificed himself for his fellow p.o.w.s in vietnam, willingly chose to sacrifice his own political gains in order to accomplish what he believed was best for all. as a result of this type of sacrifice, he may have lost the support of a political ally here and there, but he gained the respect and admiration of an entire nation. in closing, i'd like to honor the love i saw in senator mccain. he loved the people of arizona, serving them passionately and diligently for decades. he took that same love to washington and boldly advocated for the freedoms and liberties he had grown to love as a young navy pilot. but the love i saw most was the love he had for his wife, cindy, and his children.
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i heard him speak about them often, and the love always came pouring through in every word. senator mccain, it's been a true honor to call you friend. your toughness and bravery inspired us. your sacrifice and risk to lives. your convictions won our admiration. your love set an example for all of us to follow. jackie robinson once said life is not important except in the impact that it has on other lives. senator mccain, we will miss the blessings of being in your presence, but we will never forget the impact you had on the world, and more importantly, on each of the lives that you touched. we are all better for having known you. rest in peace, my friend. [ applause ]
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way that only someone close to him could understand. but the way i look at it, the way i thought about it was that i always thought of john as a brother. we had a hell of a lot of family fights. we go back a long way. i was a young united states senator. i got elected when i was 29. i had the dubious distinction of being put on the formulations committee, which the next youngest person was 14 years older than me. and i spent a lot of time traveling the world because i was assigned responsibility, my colleagues in the senate knew i
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was chairman of the european affairs subcommittee, so i spent a lot of time at nato and then the soviet union. along came a guy a couple of years later, a guy i knew of, admired from afar, your husband, who had been a prisoner of war, who had endured enormous, enormous pain and suffering. and demonstrated the code, the mccain code. people don't think much about it today, but imagine having already known the pain you were likely to endure and being offered the opportunity to go home but saying no. as his son can tell you in the navy, last one in, last one out. so i knew of john.
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and john became the navy liaison officer in the united states senate. there's an office, then it used to be on the basement floor. members of the military who are assigned to senators when they travel abroad to meet with heads of state or other foreign dignitaries. and john had been recently released from the hanoi hilton, a genuine hero, and he became the navy liaison. for some reason we hit it off in the beginning. we were both full of dreams and ambitions and an overwhelming desire to make the time we had there worthwhile. try to do the right thing. to think about how we could make things better for the country we loved so much.
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and john and i ended up traveling every time i went anywhere, i took john with me or john to be me with him. we were in china, japan, russia, germany, france, england, turkey, all over the world. tens of thousands of miles. and we would sit on that plane and late in the night, when everyone else was asleep, and just talk. getting to know one another. we'd talk about family. we'd talk about politics, we'd talk about international relations. we'd talk about promise, the promise of america. we were optimists and believe there's not a single thing, beyond the capacity of this country, for real, not a single thing. and, when you get to know another woman or man, you begin
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to know their hopes and their fears, get to know their family before you meet them, you get to know how they feel about important things. we talked about everything except captivity and the loss of my family that just occurred, my wife and daughter, the only two things we didn't talk about. but, i found that it wasn't too long into john's duties that jill and i got married. jill is here with me today. five years, i had been a single dad and no man deserves one great love, let alone two. i met jill. it changed my life. she fell in love with him and he with her. he'd always call her jilly.
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matter of fact, when they'd get bored being with me on these trips, i remember in greece, he said why don't i take jill for dinner. later, i would learn they are at a cafe at the port and he has her dancing on top of a cement table drinking. not a joke. jilly. but, we got to know each other well and he loved my sons. as a young man, he came up to my house and he came up to wilmington and out of this grew a great friendship that transcended whatever political differences we had or later developed because, above all, above all, we understood the
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same thing. all politics is personal. it's all about trust. i trusted john with my life and i would and i think he would trust me with his. we both knew then, from our different experiences that as our life progressed, we learned more, there are times when life can be so cruel, pain so blinding it's hard to see anything else. disease that took john's life took our mutual friends, teddy, the exact same disease nine years ago, a couple days ago and three years ago, took my beautiful son beau's life. it's brutal. it's relentless. it's unforgiving. it takes so much from those we love and from the families who
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love them that in order to survive, we have to remember how they lived, not how they died. i carry with me an image of beau, sitting out in a little lake we live on, starting a motor on an old boat and smiling away. not the last days. i'm sure vickie kennedy has her own image, looking, seeing teddy looking so alive in a sailboat, out in the cape. for the family, for the family, you will all find your own images, whether it's remembering his smile, his laugh or that touch in the shoulder or running his hand down your cheek. or, just feeling like someone is
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looking, turn and see him just smiling at you, from a distance, just looking at you. or when you saw the pure joy the moment he was about to take the stage on the senate floor and start a fight. [ laughter ] >> god, he loved it. so, to cindy, the kids, doug, andy, cindy, megan, jack, bridgette, i know she's not here, to mrs. mccain, we know how difficult it is to bury a child. my heart goes out to you. i know right now, the pain you all are feeling is so sharp and so hollowing. john's absence is all consuming, for all of you right now. it's like being sucked into a black hole inside your chest. it's frightening.
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but, i know something else, unfortunately, from experience, there's nothing anyone can say or do to ease the pain right now, but i pray, i pray you take some comfort knowing that because you shared john with all of us, your whole life, the world now shares with you in the ache of john's death. look around this magnificent place. look what you saw coming from the state capitol yesterday. it's hard to stand there but part of it, part of it was at least it was for me with beau, standing in the state capitol, you knew. it was genuine. it was deep. he touched so many lives.
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i've gotten calls not just because people knew we were friends, not just from people around the country, but leaders around the world calling. i'm getting all these sympathy letters. i mean, hundreds of them. character is destiny. john had character. while others will miss his leadership, passion, even his stubbornness, you are going to miss that hand on your shoulder. family, you are going to miss the man, faithful man as he was,
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who you knew would literally give his life away. and for that there's no bond but time. time and your memories of a life lived well and lived fully. i make you a promise, i promise you, the time will come that what's going to happen is six months will go by and everybody is going to think, well, it's passed. but you are going to ride by that field or smell that fragrance or see that flashing image. you are going to feel like you did the day you got the news. but you know you are going to make it. the image of your dad, your
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husband, your friend. it crosses your mind and a smile comes to your lip before a tear to your eye. that's who you know. i promise you, i give you my word, i promise you, this i know. they will come. the day will come. you know, i'm sure if my former colleagues who work with john, i'm sure there's people who said to you not only now, but the last ten years, explain this guy to me. right? explain this guy to me. because, as they looked at him, in one sense they admired him, in one sense, the way things changed so much in america, they look add him as if john came
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from another age, lived by a different code, an ancient, antiquated code where honor, courage, integrity, duty, were alive. that was obvious how john lived his life. the truth is, john's code was ageless, is ageless. when you talked earlier, grant, you talked about values. it wasn't about politics with john. he could disagree on substance, but the underlying values that animated everything john did, everything he was, come to a different conclusion. he'd part company with you, if you lacked the basic values of
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