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republicans are saying monday or no way. is it going to be about getting it through, or getting it right? and president trump orders the declassification of documents in the russia probe. why? transparency, he says. give all the information, do it right. one-on-one with republican congressman matt gaetz. and, cnn has stormy daniels' book where she shares explicit details of her affair with donald trump. chris cillizza on what we learned after months of allegations and denials. busy tuesday. what do you say? let's get after it some more. a lot of people thought that brett kavanaugh's accuser would testify on monday before the senate committee. but cnn has obtained a letter

that says professor ford wants to testify, but she wants the fbi to investigate first. now, there's a plus/minus here. it's a boost to her credibility, but on the negative side, it smacks of politics. because this is what the democrats have been pushing for. so, let's test this. we have florida republican matt gaetz with us. good to have you with us. >> good to be with you, chris. >> let's start with the obvious proposition. have fbi look into nominees, better equip senators to advise and consent on this matter. >> you repeatedly asked guests in prior segments, what would the harm be in having the fbi look into this. here is one thing i would propose to you. if you're always able to launch another investigation at the conclusion of the normal review window, these will be in

terminable hearings for every supreme court justice, no matter who controls the senate. at some point you have to act on the information you have. i'm frustrated dianne feinstein didn't release the information sooner. i think you've been fair in highlighting the concerns. we have to note brett kavanaugh has been investigated by the fbi six times. so what is it we hope to find in the seventh investigation about an alleged event that maybe happened 36 years ago. >> this. they missed this. she hadn't come forward. you can't hold the fbi accountable for what they can't know. now they know. look, is politics at play? that's a given. you see it on both sides. why not take it out of their hands and give it to the fbi. they are the only fair broker. >> it is unfair to suggest they

missed something if you don't know if something is true or false. >> missed the allegation. she hadn't come forward. i'm not saying -- we agree, the fbi didn't make a mistake. they didn't know. i'm saying your point is what will they find that they didn't before. this, because they never knew about this. they should look at it. >> the premise is true. >> you can't say it's true, a tautology. >> it's, is she telling the truth? what can you ascertain, what can you find out? >> we have to unpack what those investigations normally entail. sometimes eight months, ten months, a year and a half in some circumstances. they talk to all the people you've been involved in in your life. here with professor ford if there was some proffer of evidence, some nexus of facts to

investigate. >> we don't know there isn't. >> we would feel healthier. we don't know there is. how do you know? >> you investigate. that's probable cause. >> look, what do you investigate? she doesn't know when it happened, where it happened. >> she doesn't know exactly. >> where do you start? >> congressman, i did a story id how they process and how they are dealt with. by the way, your state is doing a heck of a job. you have lots of outreach, they are treated the right way. bravo, your government funds a lot of it. it is not unusual to forget moments of trauma, to convince yourself to forget so you can survive. we've heard from multiple friends that that's the case. and, i'll tell you what. it squares with how she came forward. why would she come out anonymously if she wanted to be the tip of the spear for democrats.

why if she wanted to come out and say something untrue, why would she ask for the feds to dig into a story if she thinks there's a chance it will be false or uncorroborated. in any possible way. why would she set herself up for that. why not take a look? do you want to eight or ten months, you say no. fine. the white house controls the process. but why say no altogether. >> the senate does. >> no, the senate does not. the white house decides whether or not the fbi looks into this not the senate. >> the senate decides whether they proceed taking floor action. >> the white house has to ask the fbi. >> if the senate said they wouldn't or the senate said they aren't going to proceed until the fbi issues a report, that can happen frequently. i'm not making the suggestion that professor ford isn't telling the truth or shouldn't be believed. that would be terribly irresponsible for you and i to do when we don't know the facts. but let me pose a hypothesis for

you to criticize. the facts are never going to be knowable. we aren't going to know the truth just like we don't know the truth about clarence thomas and anita hill. that's one of the reasons we have statutes of limitations. over time we don't become less interested in justice, it's that justice becomes more difficult to obtain as memory fades. i appreciate the compliments to the state of florida. i served as criminal justice chairman and put a lot of our policies in place with our legislature. you are absolutely right. people react to trauma in very different ways. when you're looking at something that happened 38 years ago, i think you have to acknowledge the possibility facts could be confused, events reimagined. >> true. here is something not being considered. >> they are not pros doing it 36 years old. they never do it with a 36 -- >> they do it with homicide. >> not this type of event. homicide creates a different

catalog of physical evidence. >> maybe, maybe not. most of the cases are circumstantial. you don't have direct evidence. sometimes you're searching for a body and whatever it was, the means to commit the homicide. here is what i'm saying. let's not get too much into the hypothetical. if you're judge kavanaugh, i know he has confidence he can fight this and win. i know that from sources around him. but it doesn't seem like his sponsors have the same confidence. he's the one that's going to have the cloud hanging over his head. there will always be doubt. if you do monday or no way to professor ford -- i know you're not in the senate, the house, but if that's what happens in the senate, that cloud is over his head. is that something he wants, something you want to do with him? >> that's sadly an inevitable part of the culture of accusation that we're in today that is a response to a culture of silencing victims that was of yesteryear.

we as a society are struggling with balance. i would argue there's probably a cloud over clarence thomas, fair or unfair, because we're not going to know what happened between him and anita hill. >> if the fbi comes back and says we cannot corroborate what professor ford says, democrats ask for it, they say they trust the fbi, that's that. for better or worse. at least you have independent arbiter. >> tell me how to solve the problem. we do through a monthlong proce process, the fbi says, we can find no evidence. a day after a new victim comes forward. do we take another month, ootd -- another month after that? at some point don't we have to have a collusion. >> maybe, maybe not. i'm really slow to cap possibilities when it comes to a class of people who have been silenced so long culturally. >> i agree -- >> you know what our problem is, and this is why i like this conversation.

this is a struggle. we have certain operating rules but not many. we don't like rules unless they play to advantage. that's what we're realizing with this senate confirmation process. everybody plays to advantage. everybody is afraid of what they can't control. if it's in a court of law that's one standard of review. outside of that we're lost. >> a court of law would never review this. this wouldn't meet the standard. you made the point with michael moore, it was effective. we have a judicial system. once we get out of that it becomes talking heads and political pundits and not factual developments. >> but the culture influences the rules of the process. it works hand in glove. >> how so? >> the reason we don't review these in part, you're right, judicial economy. you're right, preservation of evidence and administration of evidence, judicial economy, you're right. however, it's also cultural that we don't -- we forgive accusations over time.

we don't let people come out later out of convenience, imagine, god forbid, it was one of my kids and he or she came out many years later and the said it happened, and the system said, too bad, too late. a lot of those laws are changing as culture of appreciation of consequence and crisis evolves but we're not there yet. i think we're living in realtime. it is a struggle. it's imperfect, inconvenient, uncomfortable. i grant you all of that. but the best case scenario right now given that she didn't pop up out of nowhere, seems like she's taking a flyer to help the democrats, you have to do something better than what you're prepared to do. >> no one is suggesting that. no one is suggesting that. >> they are by saying they aren't going to give an independent review. >> if you had a contemporaneous writing, a contemporaneous oral account, if she knew the date,

time, place of the party where we could go and try to cobble together witnesses from 36 years later about an event in high school but there's not even a hook upon which to sink in. >> i don't know we don't know it exists. the only way to know is to dig. i get your concern about the unending string of allegations. you're concerned about that. but there you have your eye on the right priority. we'll see what happens. you're not to account for that. you're not in the senate, at least not yet. let me ask you about something else that dovetails into this. in the name of transparency, forget about sources and methods, protracted concern of national security, trump wants the fisa application of carter page out. you can argue it's out of political expedience or transparency but it's a hell of a thing to argue if he doesn't do the same for ford. if you want transparency, want it everywhere. i'm not going to bang you over his head with his taxes because i've said that to you 100 times. if you want transparency, want it everywhere, how do you justify wanting it with carter

pang -- page, and not with ford? >> i have to say you won't be able to beat me over the head on the taxes issue because on your network carried live i said the president should release his taxes because i am a transparency hawk. the question is whether or not that transparency is reasonably calculated. >> you don't call for it all the time, matt, you could be calling for those taxes. >> i've called for them before. i still think the president should be able to do it. the congress has no power to force him to do it. >> shouldn't have to. make your case about carter page. >> my case about carter page is this. we have secret fisa courts where things are happening that are aberrational. you had the inspector general testify the personnel move of having the very people on hillary clinton investigation move to the russia investigation, subsequently moved to mueller's

investigation. that should never happen. then you continue to see text messages, the way the dossier went through bruce ohr rather than coming through the fbi directly. it all stinks, man. i want to know what happened. the american people deserve to know the truth. frankly when this is done republicans and democrats need to get together to clean this up. so that no matter who is in power you don't weaponize the fisa court to go after political enemies. >> i'm a journalist. i'm going to argue in front of transparency. i listen to the government telling me about sources and me methods, it's part of the balance. one, fisa is not a criminal court, less secret, layers of review, is it being used the same way, same question. is it aberrational, as you say, we don't know yet. when it becomes known we'll assess. you haven't seen the fisa application either. you're going on what others told you about it. >> what the inspector general testified. based on the staffing expressly

said by inspector general. >> i read the report. not enough to know dispositively. that's why you want more. i'm not going to fight you on that point. if the president thinks it's that's important he should see it that way every time out. what's happening with ford, it's a tit for tat. is -- it's a this and that. >> not the same thing. >> transparency. either you want people to know or you don't. that's all i'm saying. >> you could reasonably. i want to vet things where you can reasonably find out what happened. i start with the premise we'll never know what happened with ford and kavanaugh because it happened so long ago and there's no way to investigate. totally different with the fisa process. >> many cases -- >> but they start with better evidence. i'm eager to hear your examples of that. but as it relates to the fisa

process, i think there we'll be able to clearly see what was told to the court, what was not told to the court. i think it is one of the most underrated out rages of the entire circumstance, you had the wife of bruce ohr, senior justice official, paid, and that never got to the court to authorize. >> i know what you're talking about. >> you said it's not a secret court. >> it's not a secret court. >> if you and i can't go and watch, that's -- >> that's not the definition. >> remember how it was before. don't let perfection be the enemy of progress. it used to be we didn't know what the hell it was based on. they put in this law, congress did, as a function of oversight to make sure there were levels and standards to be followed. here you had multiple judges all part of this conspiracy of crazy if you believe your opinion on it. >> no, that's totally different. i'm not saying the judges are part of some crazy conspiracy, i'm saying they were not told the truth. >> what's in there? >> let's see, chris, you and i

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good to have you here. thank you for joining us. the question is, this is an interesting timing aspect. the friends as reported in your story and we into to samantha gary, this is something professor ford said she wanted to forget, never wanted to advance. that's why she came out anonymously, and pushed democratic law makers to keep it that way. what did they tell you and what do you think about that? >> well, i into with a number of her friends. she has a really close-knit group that's all rallying behind her now. she spent a lot of time at the beach in the summer. her kids are part of a junior %-pt hours and hours on the beach and she would confide in her friends this had happened to her before. and then she started once kavanaugh's name came forward she thought, what are the odds

of this guy that did this to me is going to be the nominee and going to be confirmed. so she told her friends, gee, what should i do? should i come forward? i'm not sure. if i do, will it make a difference. she was just imagining what could happen, the allegations against her, people, whatever. she was also concerned, as she said, he didn't rape me. is it going to make a difference. her friends said she felt like she was struggling for her life. >> it's called an assault, by the way. >> pardon me? >> it's called an assault, if those facts match up with any corroboration. it's an assault. i get where her head was on the political reality of it but certainly there's importance to the notion. >> oh, absolutely. she's been traumatized by this. it's one thing to say you want

to put it behind you but it's another to actually try to do that. >> totally. let me ask you something -- >> the interesting thing about -- >> go ahead. make your point. >> one interesting thing about the impact it's had on her is she can't be in -- can't sleep in a bedroom that doesn't have an exit door to the outside. she feels trapped. she's paranoid about feeling trapped and needs an escape. she told friends when her husband she was remodeling her house, she needed to make sure she had exit doors in the bedrooms. this has affected her as much as she's tried to forget it. >> let's flip it. anything you learned, anything that triggered your instincts as a reporter that there could be political motivations. it's not just personal and reticence and concern that she doesn't like the president. this is an opportunity, she wants to help the cause of the democrats? >> well, from her friends, of course, they all believe her. they say that she's, you know,

teeming with honesty. she would never make this up. what reason would she. i certainly asked about her political background and if that could have any effect. they said she has, in fact, participated in marches. she participated in the women's march right after trump was elected. she participated in the march for science. she was quoted in our paper at the time saying she was wearing one of these fuzzy brain hats, so it looked like the brain. she was upset and talked to her friends about the immigration child separation policy. so by some standards that would be considered politically active. to her friends in palo alto, that's really not much. she otherwise wasn't a political animal.

they certainly didn't consider her a bleeding heart. her friends said she knew the fact she considered herself a liberal or friends said they considered her a liberal, that that could present problems bringing this forward at such a hyper charged political time. >> how you feel is one standard. what you can show and corroborate is something else. obviously in the court of law, that burden is not on the accuser once it gets to a trial. but here it will be interesting to see if there's an opportunity to investigate and time is allowed to probe, is there anything that comes up that squares with what the professor is saying beyond her own statements that we have at this point. julia sulek, thank you for expanding our understanding. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> so now you've heard, professor ford is not saying she won't testify, not saying she's backing away. i'm seeing on social media

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this just in to cnn, chairman chuck grassley responded to letters sent by lawyers of professor ford, the woman accusing brett kavanaugh of assault. he said, quote, nobody should be subject to threats and intimidation and dr. ford is no exception. these are serious allegations and dr. ford deserves to be heard. her testimony would reflect her personal knowledge and memory of events. there's no reason for further delay. great start off for a great debate. jess, is that good enough for you what grassley says?

>> no, i think the fbi investigation is a perfect thing to ask for and perfect thing to get. it's not getting by anyone we're almost 27 years from the anita hill hearings. we're not in 1991 anymore. i know chuck grassley is sitting in the same place but a lot has changed. we can organize in ways my mother would have dreamed of when they were fighting that fight. it's not the kind of thing, this is the one way to do it, we want her in front of the hearing my way or the highway. it's not going to fly in 2018. >> niger, why not do to the fbi. they are a fair arbiter, their role in judicial nominations. up to the president to do it. why not remove the specter of fairness and give it to the fbi. >> i wish someone named senator

dianne feinstein had had exactly that point of view when she got this information from a democrat congresswoman in july. the fact that she sat on this reveals exactly what dr. ford's friend said in the earlier hour. i agree with dr. ford's friend completely, which is dr. ford is being used as a political football. if that analogy is correct, and i agree with it 1,000%, the quarterback is dianne feinstein, the coach is chuck schumer and the running back is kamala harris. what democrats are doing for political purposes with dr. ford, who in my opinion, has a three and a half decade old memory and a trauma she believes occurred to her is a disgrace, it's an outrage. >> niger, i get your take on the politics, not to give short shrift. i get it.

i get that you can criticize how we got here. but how does that remove interest in giving it to the fbi now that you have a controversy. >> the fact was the letter has been submitted late to the fbi. judge kavanaugh has not had the opportunity. i'm not a lawyer, i don't play one on tv. i think a fundamental of american law -- >> you have the right to confront your accuser. >> absolutely. >> he would here as well. >> right now all we're dealing with right now, chris, is a letter that has been submitted. i think grassley is absolutely right to say that under whatever circumstances privately, over the phone. >> can't be private. no way. not with these people. >> because of the leaks. >> i love the leaks. i love the leaks. i'm a journalist. i'm saying, i don't trust what they're going to ask.

it's all feel now with them. i have to tell you, i believe niger makes a point that ultimately what may counter his initial argument, kavanaugh hasn't gotten his say, not all allegations are even, an allegation is not dispositive proof of an outcome. but who would want this more than he should. let the fbi take a look, see what she says, see if they can corroborate it, they certainly can do better than a senate staff, they say we can't substantiate it or they can. >> we have to have all the facts on the table, the evidence. here you have an accuser saying, all right, i will submit to a legal entity. i will tell the story.

she's already taken an fbi-given polygraph test which she passed. so she comes to this with even more credibility. >> she is asking for the fbi. >> people around him and know him, he believes he is right. he believes he can defend. the question is, do his sponsors and boosters believe the same. when they got word about this, the white house, they didn't go into vet mode, they put it in defend mode. they put a group of people around him, women who say what his character is, attest to his qualities. they went into defend mode. maybe they don't trust their guy to come through this. >> i don't know if i believe that characterization. when it comes to the 200 women that have rallied around brett kavanaugh, what we know from the me too movement. >> i think it's ford that has

hundreds. i think it's 65 that came around kavanaugh. >> even fewer now willing to talk on the record. >> what we know is this, okay, and those women were testifying to dr. ford's character. fair enough, be it 65, 200 -- i thought it was 200 with judge kavanaugh. >> control room is checking. >> let's say 65. i'll concede that. what we had, what we know from the me too movement, folks like kevin spacey, weinstein, i feel awful saying this, even bill cosby, there is a pattern of behavior. this thing doesn't just happen. >> that's true. fair enough. >> in terms of a pattern of behavior, based on the testimony of -- i believe it's 200 but let's say 65, 65 women judge kavanaugh has mentored, gone to school with, dated, worked with, all testified to his character. that's the only pattern we have right now.

and one allegation that hasn't even been made official because unfortunately dr. ford refuses to testify. >> she doesn't refuse to testify. she actually -- she's not hedging, she's doubling down. >> absolutely. this is an incredible act of bravery. i would like to point out that the 65 women who signed the letter before this accusation dropped, of those i believe journalists could only find five still willing to say their names and that they stood behind kavanaugh after the accusation came out. people who signed a letter saying, we knew this guy in high school. now that they are aware what their names are used for they don't necessarily want to be on the record saying i never said he didn't do that. >> the control room, just for the record, there were 65 people that the white house and other people put around kavanaugh. i'm not disparaging the effort. many backed away after a name, as opposed to hundreds of people

came out from different avenues of existence for professor ford. those are the numbers. >> this not a character battle between dr. ford and judge kavanaugh. >> credibility may be the ultimate indicator. what we've seen in this in what i call -- both sides play the toxic game with these judges, it's about nondisclosure, roe v. wade is settled law, i respect that. he knows the supreme court unsettles law. >> there is a pattern of play here. it is brett kavanaugh dissembling in front of hearings.

>> one thing that i think is credible is six fbi background checks over a 12-year period, 8 years of which president obama in charge of the justice department. >> they talked to people but they missed this because she hadn't come forward. >> if it was a pattern of abusive behavior -- >> pattern isn't the standard. one is enough. niger, god forbid one of our kids, somebody we care about, one is enough. >> let me make this point, then i'll hand the ball back to you. what we're talking about here is very serious. i do believe that dr. ford legitimately believes this. i don't know that it's true. i don't believe it's true, but i do believe dr. ford believes there was some traumatic incident that occurred 35 years ago. this traumatic incident is potentially assault, it is potential gang rape. that kind of behavior by an individual in high school, it doesn't just go away. >> she never said gang rape.

>> she said that the two individuals -- >> she never said rape, gang, she said somebody was there. >> she said he jumped on top -- >> she said it's not rape but that's not the point. one is enough. what her recollection is, whatever it is that should be vetted. we've got to be careful, niger, not to play against the presumption of when someone has an accusation. does it mean it happened? not necessarily. are all allegations even? no. if you run away from this out of political expediency and wind up elevating somebody and rewarding them with a lifetime appointment that matters, too. jess, final word. >> that is the absolute point of all of this. we are talking about whether or not to elevate somebody to a lifetime appointment to the highest court in this country. if you are going to be a supreme court justice, that means you are a person of impeccable integrity, impeccable character,

able to see the humanity of every american, regardless of gender or race. that means if you try to rape somebody, even if it's just the one time, you're out of the running. you don't get to be the swing vote on whether or not women have reproductive freedom. >> what if he's innocent. there are two victims here. >> that's a big what if. >> you don't presume to put a predator on the supreme court. >> presumed innocent until proven guilty. >> we're talking about a job interview. >> he should the opportunity to respond. >> he should have the opportunity to respond. >> you are both right. on this point we agree. we should have common ground. we want it all to come out. everybody should have their say. accuse, defend, can you corroborate, different standard than in a court of law. she has to show corroboration, let the fbi do their job. at the end of the day have some measure of confidence before

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chris cillizza has more. what are your top three? >> here we go. here we go. yes, you're right. the salacious headlines of descriptions of genitalia will titillate people. >> no pun intended. continue. >> there's actually stuff in here that is worth revisiting. number one and by far the most important, you mentioned it. 2007, stormy daniels says she's with donald trump watching shark week by the way, when he receives a phone call from hillary clinton. she's not sure what goes on in that phone call. when he hangs up, he says he loves hillary clinton, they are friends and they went to each other's wedding. that's not exactly true. donald trump didn't go to their wedding but they did go to donald and melania's wedding. that's the biggest takeaway. she asked him about his hair and what the deal is. he said that's my thing. why is that important? it gives you a sense that he is

self-aware. we always ask the question, is he self-aware? does he know how he's being perceived? does he not care? i think he's more self-aware than possibly, possibly we give him credit for. last one, she says he promised her a slot on "the apprentice," this is the important part, he would help her cheat and give her challenges beforehand so she could advance on the show, stay on the show. presumably better for her career. didn't wind up happening. stormy daniels didn't wind up on "the apprentice." we know from his golf game donald trump, the end justifies the means. these are small things. i would love to know what he talked to hillary clinton about in 2007 when she was running against barack obama, but these are small things but insightful to his character. >> all grist for the mill for the big question, how will he respond. it's supposed to be about helping her credibility and telling her truth.

that's what her lawyer michael avenatti argues but i think it's also a provocation. >> one quick last point. he's almost always his worst enemy on twitter and everything else. he doesn't leave things alone he should. this book could be dismissed by many if he leaves it alone. my guess is he won't. >> did you hear that? chris cilizza, thanks. we can't turn away from something that has to be a focused, a week from now, three weeks from now, months from now. carolina is not through. floodwaters are rising, the death toll is climbing. many are desperate. the need is just beginning to be known. food, supplies, consideration, construction. president trump is planning a visit tomorrow. what do we know? next. erywhere. so why am i sliding into this ski lodge with my mini horse?

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