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carolina, those rivers still cresting. >> we're going to continue to follow the president's trip to north carolina throughout the day as we listen in here, stay with us in just a moment, things pick up on "inside politics" with john king. i'm john king in washington, welcome to inside politics, you're watching the president of the united states handing out lunching at an aid center in new bern, north carolina. he's traveling to south carolina a little bit later in the day. he's inspecting the damage, and giving support, relief and comfort, people who have been displaced from their homes, and who can't get supplies and the like. let's listen to some of this. >> thank you. y you're a preacher?
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i'm with the st. patrick's temple. >> good, god bless. >> come sunday, we're going to be wide help. >> okay, guys, take care. >> hang in there, okay? >> did you need 28? >> watching the president here distributing food and other aid to people stopping by new bern, north carolina, the president's been on the ground for a couple of hours now, receiving a briefing from the coast guard and the national guard, there's the governor of north carolina with the president right there. whatever you think of politics, about the president, this is the right thing for the president to be doing. you see the cars coming in, the president handing out lunch, offering words of support. again, the president, on the
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schedule, he's supposed to stop by a church as well in north carolina then he moves on to south carolina, and the governors of both states will be part of this as well. as the president tries to assess the damage and the aid effort so far. but more important is plans going forward, many of these towns have some serious concerns going through this. abby, the president stopped for a long time and talked to the reporters before he left here, he said he wanted to get to north carolina for an up close look. it was interesting earlier to listen to north carolina's democratic governor saying thank you, mr. president, that so far he's going to have a long list of things his state needs, and he's going to need federal help going forward but he seemed genuinely pleased and thankful for the president's response so far. >> reporter: others are saying that the response has been going
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pretty well, there's been adequate cooperation between the federal government and state and local officials and president trump was pretty eager to get down there, he's eager to be in the mix, and as you can see from those pictures, he's really in there, handing out those meals as people were driving by, saying thank you, talking to him specifically g specifically about their experiences and what you're seeing now is kind of where the white house would like president trump to be more often on these issues. he's focused on this response. it was interesting to hear him in the last hour offering condolences to the people who had lost their lives, people who had lost family members and others as a result of this. this is the president kind of operating where he ought to be when it comes to the empathy part of this and also the administrative part of this, the disaster response specifically. i think what we're seeing here
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is president trump devoting an entire day, practically, john, he's expected to be there for seven or eight hours today, being on the ground, and seeing firsthand some of this response in the midst of a lot of stuff going on here in washington. but this is an important thing for him. it's not about politics, but in some ways it is about politics, these are states that are near and dear to his heart. these are constituent s of the president who voted for him and i think he's very mindful of being present for them. >> and it's the right thing for the president to be doing, and you can be certain, those people getting lunch from the president will be grateful for the federal help. more on the storm later, we'll continue to keep an eye on the president as he makes his way through the carolinas. but the other big story in washington, the president publicly picking sides in the he said/she said. this morning on his way to north
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carolina, the president stopped and spoke to reporters about kavanagh's now up in the air complaint. kr the president known for his attack instincts, speaking with restraint, said he wants to hear from ford and he was leaving the hearing process up to the senate and he also made clear that he believes his nominee. >> i really want to see her, i really would want to see what she has to say. we want to get it over with, at the same time we want to give tremendous amounts of time. if she shows up, that would be wonderful. if she doesn't show up, that would be unfortunate. look, if she shows up, and makes a credible showing, that will be very interesting. and we'll have to make a decision. but i can only say this, he is such an outstanding man, very
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hard for me to imagine that anything happened. >> with us here in the studio and their insights, michael bender, sung min kim. if she shows up as the president said, dr.ford, professorford saprofessorford -- professor ford said she wanted an investigation first. >> wolf, that's where we are right now, at least in terms of the senate impact. and i think you have seen this shift in the republicans' thinking over the last 48, 72 hours, since she broke her silencethrou through our report and initially republicans were hesitant, they wanted to hear more from her, but now that we have gone with some time with no response and all these questions remaining about whether she
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would even testify and last night signaling that she may not appear monday after all, republicans are feeling more confidence to just kind of forge ahead and say, look, we're holding this vote. i mean, lindsay graham who's been very vocal and vehement and defending kavanagh, he said look, asking for an fbi investigation is nothing but a delay tactic at this point and we're going to go through with the vote. >> and the president making it clear that he's not calling on the fbi to investigate this. he says he wants her to come forward and he wants her to testify, but it's become very clear that he's not going to meet the request made last night through her attorney >> and senator mcconnell, was trying to get the three or four republicans who are wavering to commit. he said he would have voted -- ford came forward, i said that
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her voice should be heard and asked the judiciary committee to delay it's vote on the judge. a senator not loyal to president trump, bob corker. dr. ford and judge kavanagh have a right to be heard. if we don't hear from both sides on monday, let's vote. so republicans at the moment have their ducks in line, their votes in line, it's a risky strategy, but they're prepared to go forward. >> with respect to senator corker and senator flake, neither of them matter, this is about sus san coan collins and murkowski, because they're the two that leadership has been worried about. and when they said there should be a hearing, this woman should be heard, you knew that was going to happen. we'll see how they react. in order to get a firmer sense of what's going to happen here,
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because democrats now do have a reason to not vote for this nominee. so i wonder how much are you going to worry about the red state democrats at this point, more so than their own conference. >> it if republicans go forward with this, they will be making the political risk that they can go forward without a full accounting, without calling in everybody they could call in. number one, if they can't reach an agreement with professor ford, obviously she's the most important player here. and they said they would ask kavanagh questions, he would deny it and then they would call for a vote in the committee. but the question is would it leave a cloud over the judge's head if you confirm him. but that process, doing it that way, is in professor ford's view unfair to her. >> she will talk with the committee. she's not premarpared to talk w them at a hearing on monday. this just came out 48 hours ago. asking her to come forward in
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four or five days and sit before the judiciary committee on national tv is not a fair process. and if they care about doing the right thing here and treating this seriously as they have said, then they will do the right thing and they will properly investigate this and she will work with them in that investigation and also to share her story with the committee. however that happens. >> and this is -- this is the risk, the politics before us, republicans have every right to say this came up after the confirmation hearing, the timing is late, we're trying to moves delay, there's every reason to delay. but we're speaking to a woman who's gone through an incredibly traumatic experience and she's decided to come forward and now she's talking with her lawyers about talking about it in public. >> the attorney here may have to
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describe a little bit more of what she means by properly investigate. because what we're seeing from the corkers and the flakes and the grassleys, and even from the white house is a rare on message alignment here, that they're kind of keeping the pressure on her, and putting the onus on her for the timeline. and, you know, we see the president saying that she should be heard, but, you know, and that will go on for a couple of days now. but they don't, obviously don't want that to go on for too long and the white house as of right now, and as of what we saw this morning from the president, is more than willing to leave this as a grassley-mcconnell issue and for them to sort out for at least the time being. >> and to the grassley-mcconnell issue, you have mark judge, who professor ford said was the other man in the room. he sent a letter to capitol hill saying he has no recollection, but he does not plan or want to answer questions from the
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senates, and you can take that as republicans have he says it didn't happen, or you can take it as he doesn't want to testify under oath. and that's significant. patrick smith, from your reporting, i have no knowledge of the party in question, nor do i have any knowledge of the allegations she has leveled against brett kavanagh, that's a statement, but a statement issued to the media is different than a statement given under oath. why wouldn't the committee want to call in all the other parties, and just get them on the record, under oath, which would help clear judge kavanagh if he's telling the truth. >> the accusers attorneys said that they don't think they would do a compare investigation if it was the senate committee that was investigating it. and we kind of saw a little bit of that from oren hatch yesterday when he said he wouldn't even ask christine ford a question if she shows up on
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monday. and her attorney saying thit's only been 48 hours. but she reached out in july when she wrote that letter to senator feinstein detailing this allegation. she asked for an opportunity to come forward, we're giving her this tumpopportunity, they don' think this is the right way. but brett kavanagh for his part, he's preparing like this hearing is actually going to have on monday and in case she does change her mind and does decide to show up, he's getting ready to tell his side of the story. >> there are some remembpublica who are making it pretty clear that their minds have already been made up. they're saying, look, this has been a drive by shooting at judge kavanagh and we're going do listen to the lady.
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attorney general for numerous reasons. we have an attorney general, i'm disappointed in the attorney general for many reasons and you understand that. >> i don't have an attorney general until to we have an att gener general, he was lost now he's found. jeff sessions is doing just about everything the president wanted him to do as attorney general, except bob mueller is still investigating and rod rosenstein is still -- whatever sessions has done is never going to be overcome of that moment for donald trump. you know, the comments here are, it's not something that happens, it's just sort of how at this point trump is going to, you know, fire up this at his attorney general, what form it's going to take. one thing that is shocking to me, we know the clock is running
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on sessions, basically until the midterms or until the mueller report comes out and he is probably gone, what's shocking, though, is that no one seems to have a good idea on who's going to replace him. trump has been hammering at sessions for the better part of two years now, and the folks around trump in the white house, outside the white house, no one seems to have a good idea, you know, trump is so focused on his anger at sessions, that he hasn't really started talking or thinking about who could possibly replace him. >> and part of his anger at sessions is grievances with the justice department that the president is now acting on in this declassification move, the carter page fisa warrants, and it's a bureaucracy they go through. but the president is trying to make available a whole lot of documents that the intelligence community does not want made available. he said i hope to put this up as
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one of my crowning achievements that i was able to expose something that was truly a cancer in our country, i hope to be able to call this along with tax cuts and regulation, and all the other things i have done, this may be the most important thing because this was corrupt. there is no factual evidence that this was corrupt. there is no factual evidence that the dossier was the start of the russia investigation. in fact there's a lot of evidence to the contrary of that. but this is what drives the president. >> right. that's what this is all about, sessions, making that public, he also said, over the course of that interview, he went back to saying that he fired comey, not only because of hillary clinton, which is what the letter proposed, but also because of what he said about russia, he doubled down on that, and said that he didn't say that and lester holt somehow corrupted the tape. but really, it's not hard to analyze this because it all comes back to russia and his perception of the russia probe.
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>> well, and i donby i don't ha attorney general, i don't have an attorney general who's at my beck and call for what i really want. of course president trump has been complaining over a year and a half, two years, whatever that timeline is now. but lately we have seen that shift from complaining in tweets, to directing him not to prosecute people, republican congressmen ahead of the midterms and to release these documents. what would be the last straw for jeff sessions? would he quit before then if the president takes it a step forward and jeff sessions thinks it's a little bit too much. you can say one thing about the attorney general, and that's what the president's remarks are, even though he started those remarks on north carolina and what he's doing there today, it's pretty easy for him to go off on a tangent about jeff. >> you saw the president earlier at a distribution center in new
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bern, obviously you can see the president walking through the neighborhood here, there's no waters left here, but he's asking people how they're doing. let's listen for a second. the president in conversation with the governor and the embattled fema director, staying close by the president. and we talked about the controversy surrounding jeff sessions and the president's displeasure with his attorney general, he's on the road now with his fema director who's facing a criminal investigation for misuse of resolving sources. and the president making the rounds, try to watch these pictures as they play out, if we can hear the president talking to residents about their homes and the flooding.
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to abbey phillips point earlier, it is to the president's credit, we talk about his nonfactual comments about jeff sessions, his obsession about the mueller plo probe and other things that are controversial or more, this is what the president should be doing after a tragedy like hurricane florence and he's dedicatin dedicating, 6, 7 hours on the ground is there? >> uh-huh. >> so we'll watch the president. we'll continue to keep an eye on the president in new bern. we're sure those residents are comforted to see those officials on the ground. back to the big story here in washington, judge kavanagh, will the impasse over getting testimony from his accuser be brokered? and how is it already playing out in this already contentious midterm election year.
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we're watching the president in new bern, north carolina, along with his secretary of homeland security. just touring the neighborhood of new bern and having conversations with people. just a while ago a woman told him that she has lived there for 30 years and this was the worst. then he moves on to south carolina. republicans make no secret of the fact they want to confirm brett kavanagh before the new supreme court term begins in october. but the november election is now just as central, as senate republicans and now the president wave off calls for an fbi investigation before any testimony by krchristine blasey ford.
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kavanagh is the only preelection option. the president touched on the politics in a tweet last night. he said the supreme court is one of the main reasons i got elected president. i hope republican voters and others are watching and studying the democrats' playbook. we touched on this earlier, senator lindsay graham said it was all about midterm politics. requiring an fbi investigation of a 36-year-old allegation without specific references to time or location, before professor ford will appear before the judiciary committee is an un -- >> our correspondent sarah west, she said the senate commissioner, chairman chuck grassley, the chairman of the committee is sending a later to prothe i sorry fofessor ford's to interview her here.
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they are trying to go to great lengths to be accommodating. it is up to you. but it does not deal with the threshold question of her legal team says no testimony until you have some sort of investigation. >> also they're not willing to budge on the timing either. you notice from chairman grassley's statement said the invitation for monday still stands, so grassley is doing what he can to be as accommodating to the woman as possible, to dr. ford, but not on the timing as of yet. and the midterm politics, the president is right when he says that the supreme court is one of the reasons he got elected. that scalia seat was open for almost a year when the president got elected in 2016. i think it's still early to know how this is going to turn out. but there's josh holly, the
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attorney general of missouri, the republican candidate there was talking this morning saying the republicans are doing everything right. he's made the supreme court a major part of his candidacy, so i think you're seeing that republicans feel that democrats have mistreat the press, and republic. >> the republican candidate against claire mccaskill, he's one of the ten state seats up. she marsha blackburn is the candidate there. she should be heard, she should come in before the vote on thursday, she has between now and thursday and then you call on the vote as schedule. a republican senator saying yes, you can be heard, but do it
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quickly. >> they're making a mockery of this process and they should be asha ashamed. this is exactly the kind of thing that voters in my state at least say that is wrong with washington and that needs to change, it looks to be just an ambush, sitting on this when they had the chance to bring it up in the hearings, had the chance -- it's not as if judge kavanagh didn't sit for questioning, he sat for hour upon hour upon hour over days and witnesses were called in. people i think frustrated and now to have the democrats moving the goal posts again. >> again, my question is, yes the democrats knew about the letter in july, she said she was respecting professor ford's request for confidentiality. but here's where we are now, and can republican candidates sell the idea that this is making a
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mockery of the process, that a woman says she had a traumatic experience and 35 years later she's coming out with it. >> i think most people have their eyes on suburban women, because they're the ones who are going to determine this election, as many of them went to vote for president trump, and if there's a reception that republicans are not treating this woman fairly, that's where you're going to see the black lash and that's where they may run into problems, but democrats, on the other hand, lets say kavanagh does withdraw, we see no indication he's going to do so, but there's that. republican voters tend traditionally to come out because of the supreme court. chris van holland was out there, and i asked him were his voters engaged in the supreme court? he said it's starting, he said
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there's more than before, but he didn't say absolutely they're on board. that's a big difference. >> we have raised lots of questions about the republican strategy, i want you to listen to this senator who has correct advise for men involved in this conversation. this is something a little different. the democrats say what's the rush, and she says, she gets the why the republicans are rushing, to protect the president. >> this is yet another area where, you know, what can we expect him to say except to deny the whole thing, because for him to say anything else would totally deep six his nomination. this is an administration that is totally intent, with the help of mitch mcconnell and others in the senate to push this through, why? because the supreme court session is going to start in october, the president wants his guy there. >> clearly the democratic strategy has to be just to give
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trump room to sort of step in it like he has a number of these times in these races where similar issues have come up. but so far, trump is staying relatively on message with kavanagh, his advisors think that's a good sign. they have shown him polling, that his numbers have gone down after the mccain fight. he's not really in a position to pick this fight. they have reminded him of how he got through this in his own campaign and trying to get him back on the economy, which republicans seem to agree is a winning issue. so, you know, as long as trump is where he is today, where he is defending kavanagh without attacking dr. ford, trump's advisors think that's a good place to be. >> we'll watch as this plays out again, there's been a lot of moving parts over the last 24 hours, we'll see if any accusations still exist.
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and in a historic first, kim jong-un plans to travel to seoul later this year. but two words in the agreement are raising questions about kim's intentions and just how serious he really might be about denuclearization. north korea agreed if the united states takes corresponding measures, to take additional actions including permanent destruction of the nuclear facility. what exactly are corresponding measures? >> reporter: they have not been revealed and that could be deliberate. it could the be that perhaps -- they could want something that the u.s. may not be prepared to give, like a reduction in the number of american troops in south korea, 28,000 currently, the north could claim, hey, they in the south just signed essentially what sounds and looks like a bilateral peace treaty, why does the united
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states still need a military presence? a lot of advisors will tell president trump that that would be a catastrophic mistake. either way, north korea will be a lot better off economically once they reopen the joint industrial complex. they're going to get health care cooperation and assistance from south korea and that potential olympic bid, north korea has always wanted to host the olympics, they have 100,000 person seating capacity in i don't think -- pyongyang. we have to see what happens next, trump-kim round two later this year. >> we appreciate the reporting for us. before leaving for north carolina early this morning, president trump weighed in on this big development. > >> we're making tremendous progress with respect to north korea, prior to becoming president, it looked like we were going to war with north
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korea, now we have a lot of progress. in the meantime, we're talking, it's very calm, he's calm, i'm calm, so we'll see what happens. >> i love that part, he's calm, i'm calm. the question is, kim is great at the shows, he's great at the promises, the question is do you get inspections, do you get verification and what will happen if not? because we are months after the singapore summit and by all accounts they continue to produce nuclear weapons? >> i think skeptics are worried about the president's comments about this, instead of him being skeptical himself about these big promises, he doesn't get into that they also want concessions from the united states here too. and they did include a list of step by step how they're going to do this, or a list of all their nuclear sites. but president trump is really quick to get on that and tell about this big progress that they have seen, even if there hasn't been any progress beyond words and wanting the requirements of the united states. so those are the concerns that
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are still there, whether it's actually progress is still to be determined. of course everyone would like to see that, no one wants to get bombed. >> and the definition of progress, the president has added that it has to be fuller, verifiable and permanent denuclearization. >> even north korean state run media point out that trump is much more positive about these developments than his own staff. trump and moon will be at the united nations meetings next week, there's some thought that there might be some of those specifics discussed there, so that will be the next step to watch in this story. >> we'll keep an eye on that. up next, christine blasey ford has asked for an investigation. how would that play out? ♪
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the woman accusing supreme court nominee brett kavanagh of sexual assault wants an fbi investigation before she testifies on capitol hill. christine blaze blasy ford say fbi should look into the allegations. but president trump says the fbi has no role in the discussions of the claim. >> the fbi doesn't really do that. they have investigated about six times before and it seems that they don't do that.
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>> let's talk that over, cnn senior law enforcement officer tom fuentes, you're a former official at the fbi, when the president says that the fbi doesn't do that. is that fair? >> it depends on what they mean by that, they don't investigate allegations of 36-year-old crimes, that would be under the jurisdictions of police, but the fbi does do the background investigation to support judicial nominees at the orders of the president. >> so if the president heard this allegation, which was, whoa, should i pull this nominee he could pick up the phone and say look into this for me? >> absolutely. and basically reopen the background. the background investigations are done for the president, they're not done as a matter of criminal investigation, unless the allegation was they committed a bank fraud, or took money, that would be a federal violation, but for something like this where the allegation is of a state crime, that would be up to the local police as a state crime.
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but in terms of the background and his character and other issues like that, absolutely, if the president thought that the complaint was in any way credible, he could immediately say, okay, fbi, do this and, you know, report back to me, and then he could decide, it's not for the purpose of the president to decide whether to keep the nomination going forward or just withdraw it. and we have seen many a case where a nomination was just withdrawn. >> and if the president picked up the phone and asked the fbi to do this and they gave the president a report, is he free to share that with the senate? >> it's up to him. he might not share it. he might just withdraw the nomination. if it's favorable. he would be very interested in trying to share it or, you know, make use of it this way, but again, it's his decision, for his benefit in a sense of whether to keep a nomination alive. >> it's 36 years ago, professor ford says she was 15, brett kavanagh was 17, he's named
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another person in the room, when what she describes as a horrible assault took place. >> you want to verify, who was at the house, talk to all the other people. and she's going to have to be interviewed and provide these names, the fbi is not going to be able to pull them out of thin air. and if kavanagh says he wasn't at this party or didn't do it, then really she's going have to say, here's what took place, the date, the time, the location and who can verify her story. and we have seen this public reporting of another person who since has said, i wasn't even there. so right off the bat you have a discrepancy concerning her credibility. so her correct in this is a key factor. and it's going to have to be. >> he is a sitting federal appeals court judge. so if this information comes into the fbi, senator feinstein has now forwarded the letter, if he's not up for anything else,
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is there no allegation at all that comes in against a sitting judge, never mind it's the supreme court, is it nobody's job to investigate this? >> nobody, it comes down to whether the local police would take the fbi's place. it's not the fbi's place to take a local investigation if it's not a federal crime, organized crime or corruption or terrorism or something like that. if you're talking about what's been said about this event, what took place, it's not under the fbi's jurisdiction. but to determine his character, for the benefit of the president to decide whether to keep the nomination going forward, or to withdraw the nomination, that's part of the background investigation, but the fbi does do the background investigation. >> so if the president picks up the phone and asks, you would do an investigation? >> yes. knowing how the president has made decisions in the past, i could see him, if she came in
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and publicly testified and had a great deal of credibility, looked very, you know, believable in her story and in her testimony, he could easily decide right then. >> at that point do it. >> tom, appreciate the insights there as this controversy gets kicked around, thanks for joining us on "inside politics." have a great day. hello, i'm jim acosta in for wolf blitzer, it's 1:00 in washington. the woman accusing supreme court nominee brett kavanagh show up and testify or we vote. this as she demands an investigation first. the president giving no sign dhs that he'll give the fbi orders to reopen the background check on kavanagh. so as the clock ticks toward the midterms

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