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an historic moment. >> the ayes are 50, the nays are 48. the confirmation of brett kavanaugh is confirmed. >> and democrats promise that gop will pay. >> november is coming. plus, president trump takes a victory lap with 30 days until the midterms. >> under republican leadership, america is booming. america is thriving.
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america is winning. and the calendar might read 2018 but for dozens of democrats, 2020 is here. inside politics, the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. thanks for joining us. john king is off today. conservative imaginity on the supreme court. that is the new reality this morning. brett kavanaugh is now justice kavanaugh after a long partisan fight and week-long fbi probe. an unquestioned victory for the president. >> this is an historic -- i stand before you today on the heels of a tremendous victory for our nation, our people and
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our beloved constitution. the u.s. senate confirmed judge brett kavanaugh to the united states supreme court. >> the saturday vote was close but never really indoubt. the drama came from the gallery in protesters. >> mr. alexander. >> i am a mother. i am a patriot. >> the sergeant in arms will restore order in the gallery. >> the sergeant of arms will restore order in the gallery. >> their despair equal bid the republican celebration. we saw the normally reserved republican majority leader relishing in a legacy defining moment. >> i always thought land slides were kind of boring anyway.
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this is a good day for america and an important day for the senate. >> mcconnell says the mob lost and fairness won out but democrats say that kavanaugh is a permanent stain on the court and the process tore an already divided washington further apart. >> from start to finish, president trump's nomination of brett kavanaugh to the united states supreme court has been one of the saddest moments in the history of the united states. this will be a flashing moment of what to avoid. truly judge kavanaugh's confirmation is a low moment for the senate, for the court, for the country. >> with us to share their reporting and insights, we have
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jaffe kesenic from the daily beast, and cnn's kaitlyn collins. what a week we've seen -- really, three weeks we've seen. think about all the twists and turns of the confirmation hearings, you saw judge kavanaugh testify, blasey-ford testify. but in some ways, kaitlyn, this seemed inevitable. >> he was on the fast track and everyone kept saying unless something really insane happens, he is on the fast track to be confirmed and something really insane happened and upended washington for a few weeks. on friday when susan collins was giving her speech and started speaking for the first 20, 25 minutes, it was a speech she could have given if none of the allegations had happened, if christine blasey-ford had not come forward or the other two accusers of sexual misconduct.
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that critical vote who got him confirmed to the supreme court made her argument but had very little to do with the allegations against him. that was kind of the closing part of her speech. >> we were looking at susan collins and here is what they had to say for the reasoning of their final votes. >> i do not believe that these charges can barely prevent judge kavanaugh from serving on the court. >> i could not con conclude that he is the right person for the court at this time. >> i believe dr. ford. something happened to dr. ford. i don't believe that it shows it was brett kavanaugh but i believe something happened. >> i can't get up in the morning and look at the life experience i've had and say yes to judge kavanaugh. >> so talk about the big five and how they made their decision, particularly the ones
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that switched parties. >> murkowski was interesting. whether or not you believe brett kavanaugh on this, his behavior at the hearing doesn't rise to her high standard of how a judge should behavior. she talked about the need for an impartial and nonpartisan judge. the appearance of his behavior raised questions about that and in the midst of that fbi investigation, some of that was papered over. progressives have lost the supreme court for a generation. campaign finance, gun rights, religious rights, voting rights, interest of employers, liberal issues now are in danger, gay rights, affirmative action, death penalty. consequences will linger for decades. >> palin, for instance, tweet she had can see 2020 from her house, meaning she might run against murkowski and you had
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democratic groups pull money from manchin who, of course, voted to confirm kavanaugh. this was a big loss for the democrats. >> it's hard to say where the implications are for the midterms but there's very little question that this has injected energy into the grass roots. i'm not sure that they can get more energized but if they can, this will do it. >> yeah. >> it's striking. what we thought 20 days ago, kavanaugh would be confirmed. that's how this all played out. but 20 days later we're in a spot where everyone feels a lot more anger. i didn't think it could get higher, but it definitely is. it feels like there's weaknesses in the senate, that this was a fight that was damaging for a lot of those traditions and it could be damaging for the court going forward. >> good point. >> justice roberts has a lot
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that he's going to have to deal with to restore trust in that institutio institution. >> and we say elana kagan talki about this. >> justice kavanaugh, justice kennedy, people found a center where people couldn't predict in that sort of way and that's enabled the court to look as though it was not owned by one side or another. and was, indeed, impartial. that sort of middle position, it's not so clear whether we'll have it. >> some people, jackie, saying maybe chief justice roberts would take that role as being the swing voter there, the independent voice. he particularly is concerned about the reputation of the court. >> he was the key vote on health
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care and enraged conservatives for being the key vote. this smash mouth, bare knuckle, no holds bar fighting we're seeing permeating the united states senate. out there you probably don't know, it's not the house. the house, they really hate each other. in the senate, they really do sort of -- there's been a tradition to lay down arms and get stuff done. >> cooler heads usually prevail. >> yes. so to see that kind of rage permeate that body for those of us who have been covering congress and watching congress it was striking how that went dow down. >> you can argue that --
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>> particularly we saw that in his last year. >> inside with the left on any of the cases. people can reasonably argue that sandra day o'connor was the last swing vote. now chief justice roberts finds himself in a position where he'll have to cool the passions of the five-member imaginity. >> and issues will come before the supreme court. they could move right on abortion, affirmative action, presidential power, campaign finance. all of those issues culturally divisive issues. >> we are in unchartered territory and we're not going back to where we were three weeks ago before these allegations came out. it's not just questions about the supreme court but also the senate judiciary committee. there's no sense of bipartisanship. there are questions about the me too movement. both sides are angry. it's not just of the democrats
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and liberals and the kavanaugh critics. the white house and conservatives are also enraged over this and think they've got a shot of energy because of what's happened. >> will it sustain itself for four weeks? >> for a month. >> it's a lifetime in this political environment. a month is 10,000 news cycles. >> this bitter partisan divide, you have people comparing it to the run-up to the civil war and challenges in the 1960s with civil rights and vietnam war. what do you make of this, lisa? >> that's a very fashionable comparison. i think a significant difference is that we have a president who thrives on this kind of anger, who stokes this kind of anger and sees it, as we're hearing, as very good for his political fortunes. >> and trying to minimize the protests. >> you hear this idea of a mob rule. you heard this from grassley and a number of people on the senate floor and also the president.
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>> one person's mob is another person's protesters. you heard a lot of this story in the tea party, democrats calling them astroturf, saying they were fake, saying that they were just this angry mob. i don't know if they used that verbiage but that was out there at that time. >> a constitutional point that really matters. >> weakness of the institutions. >> they're riled up more than others. that's the job of citizens and voters and the job of the senate traditionally and the courts to be the cooler heads to calm that down. this broke down a lot of those traditions. we've never had a supreme court nominee who has done televised interviews, gotten up and spoken openly in such a partisan way, written op-eds. we are breaking new ground with how this country handles these confirmation hearings and i
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really do think that justice roberts is in a tough spot. whether kavanaugh will recuse himself from certain cases. legal experts think that's rather unlikely. something has to be done to calm things down it feels like. it's unclear who will do that. >> we'll see. coming up, president trump's midterm message is all about winning. what it means for november, next. valerie: but we worry if we have enough to last. ♪ cal: ellen, our certified financial planner™ professional, helps us manage our cash flow and plan for the unexpected. valerie: her experience and training gave us the courage to go for it. it's our "confident forever plan"... cal: ...and it's all possible with a cfp® professional. find your certified financial planner™ professional at letsmakeaplan.org.
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president trump is taking a victory lap with 30 days before the midterms and his supreme court pick is very much front and center. >> a totally brilliant scholar who has devoted his life to the law. the biggest thing a president can do, they've always said, is supreme court justice picks. and some have had none. we've had two in less than two years. >> brett kavanaugh is the second justice that trump appointed to the supreme court, giving conservatives a clear majority. other big wins that trump can count? the unemployment rate is at 3.7%, the lowest in 49 years. there's also the new trade deal to replace nafta and congress passed a major bipartisan bill to fight the opioid epidemic.
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lisa, you might imagine that this is the leak that trump supporters are sick of winning. he has a lot of big wins, and this was the best week of his presidency. >> this was definitely the best week of his presidency. it has told us something interesting about his support. in 2016, i sort of thought that -- and a lot of people, of course, thought that the president won in spite of his comments about access hollywood -- the access hollywood tape. now i'm wondering if he won, in part, because of those comments. there has been polling about his supporters and they are more likely to believe in reverse racism, that white men is under siege in this country. that part of the base coming out and being really loud during this fight. this kavanaugh fight unified the republican party behind the president.
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typical more moderate conservatives, they're more unified. the question is whether that endures over the next 30 days. >> they say worry about dr. ford. we say worry about brett kavanaugh. they say worry about your daughters being sexually assaulted and not believed and we say worry about your sons and being falsely accused. it fuels the question, of course, can it sustain the next month of the midterm election? >> one thing that we hear the president saying is that it's not about the people whose names are on the ballot. it is really about him. here is what he had to say. >> i'm not on the ticket but i am on the ticket because this is also a reven dumb about me. get out and vote. i want you to pretend i'm on the
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ballot. and we will be on ballot in two years and won in a landslide like you wouldn't believe. >> he's doing multiple rallies a week. i've seen him go from -- instead he would never talk about the candidate and never talk about the midterms and it was like, hello, this is about the midterms. people wanted him to be there talking about the candidates and it would be him reciting his greatest hits. we're seeing him switch over and talk about the midterms a lot more during these speeches. to follow up on trump's greatest week, i love this narrative. a success fful week now looks le your supreme court nominee being accused of sexual assault, exposing your finances and upending essentially what you've been telling the american public for decades is comical to me that that is what a really good week for this president and what we now are bar for politics is
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so low that this is a good week blows my mind. >> it's a good week for his supporters and we'll hear from some -- this is in mississippi. here is what they had to say. >> i'm not tired of winning yet. the economy is booming, the military is stronger. what else do we need really? >> i want to make sure that the republicans hold the senate and the house so we can follow trump's agenda. >> the most important thing to me is building the wall. making sure we get the aliens, illegals from coming in. health care. everything that's important to trump is important to me. his agenda. >> these folks are among the most fervent trump fans. it's mississippi. but they are very fired up about this president.
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>> absolutely. trump's message about him being on the ballot, it depends on where you live as to whether that's a good thing. so i think you'll see some candidates using that and some saying he's entitled to his opinio opinion. >> if you're mcnally, you might be dicey about whether you want the president there. >> the senate map is very red, very republican, very rural and most of these people like president trump a lot. he won states like west virginia and north dakota by massive margins. manchin, the one democrat who broke, is from the state that the president won by the largest margin. >> 42%. >> yeah. >> it's ridiculous.
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>> his strategists and those close to him have impressed upon him that his strong, hard core voters love him. will they turn out to support a republican down the ballot when he's not on the ticket? they worry about that a lot. >> women are who folks are looking at. >> independent women turned most quickly and most strongly against the kavanaugh nomination. particularly when the president gets out there and makes fun of the allegations made by christine blasey-ford, that's really bad with independent women. how this plays depends, as most things in politics, where you sit. what the dynamic is. this is probably hurtful for democrats. for the president's because it's the perfect thing. he was able to motivate his base with this red meat anger kind of
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stuff and traditional moderate republicans who want to see things done. this is the biggest thing he could get done for republican, culmination of decades worth of activists and policy work to cement a conservative majority on the supreme court. >> for decades from now. >> for decades. >> whatever else we say about the president, he did get that done. >> that's true. >> next, the kavanaugh fight say midterm motivator, republicans say, for their base. is the brett bounce real? we'll look at key senate races to find out. first, melania trump, she wrapped up his first solo tip abroad this weekend but couldn't escape her husband's twitter account. no, not even when she visited the great sphinx in egypt. >> i don't always agree with what he tweets. i tell him that. i give him my honest opinion and honest advice and sometimes he listens and sometimes he doesn't, but i have my own voice and my opinions, and it's very
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confident about take iing back house. battlegrounds in north dakota, heig heidi heitkamp has fallen behind the gop challenger. have the kavanaugh hearings energized republican voters who otherwise may have stayed home on election day? mitch mcconnell thinks so. >> i think our people will be just as fired up a month from now and everyone will remember what they did to brett kavanaugh. >> is this the shot in the arm that the republicans needed? >> absolutely. it's a wake-up call to why it's important to hold the senate. >> jackie, a lot can happen in 30 days. he's saying they're going to remember in november. really? >> it's hard to say what could happen between now and november. it is true, republicans were terrified at the beginning of this process when christine blasey-ford came out. after her testimony, i was getting texts, this is a
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disaster, this is really bad. he has got to go. then he testified and then came the calvary behind him. you saw the tide just start to turn and with it, republican voters starting to rally behind him. you heard the president start to criticize christine blasey-ford and you heard democrats at the end of this week say let get this over w let's get this done, privately, of course, because they were seeing the republicans are starting to wake up. and they were starting to unite for the first time. >> and races tighten in some ways. >> right. >> lisa, you've got this great newsletter on politics and this is what you wrote about this question of whether or not it will reenergize voters. you know who else is fired up by the confirmation? democrats, particularly the independents and women who are considered crucial voters in battleground suburban communities -- counties.
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the question is not who is an y angrier today. the question is whose anger lasts until election day? another principle in politics. this is key. losers are easier to motivate than winners. >> i was just about to say that. you read it to me. losers are more angry than winners. if you won you don't have the same need to get out there. both bases are extremely fired up. the question is what that looks like 30 days from now. we just don't know. there is a sense that there won't be any complacency among the democratic base, because they have a lot to fight for here. not only do they hate the president but now they've also lost the court. they don't have the house, the senate. they have nothing. they are losers. >> right. we'll see how angry they are on election day.
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kirsten gillibrand, here is what she had to say. >> i leave you with one final thought. november coming. november is coming. november is coming. please do everything you can between now and november to be heard. the moral arc of history is long, but it depends toward justice. >> amy schumer next to her. she, of course, is quoting martin luther king, gillibrand. >> people don't know up to the polls to say thank you to the party. >> right. >> much more often they show up to express their anger. we saw that in 2010. ask the democrats how that worked out. we passed health care and other things you like. come support us. we'll see if republicans can
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sustain the extent to which they've cut into that. we haven't talked about the gender gap that is likely to be inflamed by this. college women in particular will be the deciding factor in races that determine who control the chamber and they're not happy. >> republicans are so excited in part because it looked so grim for them before. there was a 12 to 14 gender gap is what strategists were telling me. that's really bad, particularly that close to election. they're excited that has tightened up it's not that they're getting a huge edge but they're catching up in some way. >> that's why it was important for susan collins to come out, this moderate, gop women, rallying around kavanaugh in a very fullsome speech on the floor and you saw president trump talk about her from his
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rally. >> touting her, saying what a great speech it was, and important to notice the dynamic and optics of what susan collins did. when she spoke to women, who also supported brett kavanaugh, sat behind her. those weren't their normal seats. so she can say it's not just her supporting brett kavanaugh. there are other women supporting him. a lot of people have gone on television to voice their support for him or women he went to school with. not his guy friends that he drank with on the weekends, it was the women. they're trying to send the message. will that message be received? now president trump is saying he believes that christine blasey-ford was sexually assaulted but was 100% sure that brett kavanaugh didn't do it. after she testified she was 100% sure he did it. the whole me too movement has been handled and how president trump says you should be scared for your sons, brothers, fathers
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for this movement, what effect will that be and how will it factor into these races? >> one person that's been quite vocal about this, lindsey graham. here his take on what's coming. >> it's now all about kavanaugh. before it was about a lot of things. now it's pretty simple. if you vote for the democratic party, you're turning your government over to people who follow you around, spit on you and try to intimidate you. >> lindsey graham reborn in many ways, being caricature d on snl by kate mckinnon and there he is on fox. >> other than the comments he said there, i remember, you know, john lewis trying to walk to the capital and being surround bid protesters. one thing that lindsey graham has taken issue with, he supported sonya sotomayor, elana
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kagan when president obama nominated them. perhaps he's worried about a primary in south carolina, his next race. he is an institutionalist and i think that also played into his anger throughout the hearings. >> we'll see him out on the stump. all of a sudden he is a favorite of the trump base. >> i think he has really leaned in. i think to jackie's point about his views about confirmation, this 50-48 margin is the narrowest of any supreme court confirmation in modern times. it was 54-48, two votes. a lot of attacks on legitimacy
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we're just 30 days away from election, for the midterms. 2020 isn't that far away. amy klobuchar, cory booker part of those hearings. booker head to iowa, possible sign of his white house ambitions, headlining the democratic party's biggest event of the year in that state, after his fiery speech, hitting on trump and taking back the house, he talked 2020. >> are you running? >> i do need to get in shape so
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i will probably go jogging. in all seriousness, we're focusing on the elections coming up in 3 days. iowa could be the key to flipping the house. >> a corny joke from cory booker there. kamala harris, we've heard, may be running. >> i'm just going for a jog, one of the more creative ways to answer are you running? my read on it at this moept, elizabeth warren appears to be the front-runner for economic populists and kamala harris for the social justice wing of the party. what i'm struck by is president trump talks about a number of these contenders. he loves to talk about elizabeth warren, a race-tinged slur against her. he never talks about kamala harris. i wonder why. >> a list here, 25 or so folks
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who are potential 2020 dems, everybody from michael avenatti, who probably didn't do himself any favors with democrats, john hickenlooper. a crowded field, jackie. >> you did see elizabeth warren coming out and saying she's considering it, right? no one puts baby in a corner as all these other democrats, we're having the spotlight on them by virtue of having this kavanaugh debate. yes, the field is wide right now and we'll see who takes off. given the climate, given who they have to run against, i think democrats are really going to be focused on picking a winner this time. of course, they always are, but i think right now in particular. and some of the weaknesses and strengths of these candidates will come out in short order rather than perhaps waiti iningl the nomination comes. >> president trump, here is what he had to say about elizabeth
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warren last night. >> i see those candidates before my eyes. every night before i go to sleep. poke y pocahontas. i've got more indian blood in me than pocahontas. and i have none. sleepy joe biden, who ran for president two or three times. remember, he challenged me to a fight? i would like to take him behind the barn. i would love that. that have wouldn't last long. that would not last long. >> and warren, to tell you what her response was, she tweeted hey real donald trump hope you're having fun at your rally. too bad you're the least popular incumbent president in modern history and in the meantime we are coming for your pathetic
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rubber stamp republicans in 31 days. >> i think the president points out a good point, vice president joe biden, a lot of democrats are waiting to see what he does, that they see him filling a particular lane. >> joe biden actually because of what happened with christine blasey-ford and the anita hill hearings, he has been very quiet. >> he has been very quiet. >> as he should be. >> because if you go back and look at the tape. >> not a good look. >> former vice president, he has done this before. he has a lot of donors, could raise a lot of money. there are a number of candidates in that lane to see what he does. elizabeth warren, of course, it's clear she's signaling all over the place that she's running and wants to cast herself as early as possible as a fighter. you talk to her people, she said she wants to head back. >> kaitlan, who should the president most be worried about coming out of this democratic
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field? >> what we saw was what we saw with the republicans in the last presidential election, so many running. michael avenatti, everyone come ing out of the woodwork signaling they're going to run. president trump, even though we haven't even made it to the midterms, he has become increasingly concerned who it is going to be. >> who do you think he's most worried about? >> you can see who he talks about. he doesn't talk about kamala harris. a lot of people see her as someone who will be a star in the next election and he clearly doesn't think she's a threat. he's not very -- what would the word be -- sly? >> hard to read. >> who he's worried about, that's who he's calling out at those rallies. >> three midwestern states who decided the election. it's unlikely for me to see a democrat losing all the states that hillary won but pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin.
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share from their notebooks. kaitlan, we start with you. >> one thing that was really remarkable was what chuck grassley, chairman of the judiciary committee said. that was when he remarked during an interview at the end of last week that he didn't believe there were republican women on the senate judiciary committee because they couldn't handle the workload. now he came back pretty quickly after he made those comments, after an aide prompted him to do so to correct it to say he thinks women work harder than men, et cetera, et cetera. it's remarkable that he made a comment like that when we're in the face of a conversation like that, that they had to hire a woman, a female prosecutor to come and question christine blasey-ford because they didn't want it to reflect poorly on them if they were too aggressive. and i thought the comment was
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interesting. >> we'll see if a republican woman gets on the senate judiciary. that's never happened. >> we took a break from the kavanaugh confirmation hearings and looked at the biggest conspiracy theories circulating around the midterms. 2016 was like the conspiracy theory election, in part because president trump, of course, pushed the birther theory for a long time and hillary clinton has been at the center of -- i don't know -- just about every conspiracy theory for the past two decades, her and her family. we were curious what is circulating around the midterms and we found a couple on the dark corners of the internet. christine blasey-ford was not testifying for herself up there during that hearing but instead it was amy schumer playing christine blasey-ford. >> creative. >> it's creative and that's the kind of stuff we're seeing in the dark corners of the internet these days. >> wow! who can compete with that?
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>> i don't think i can. what are the great ironies is that republican candidates were actively supporting efforts to undermine or overturn the affordable care act, critical component which is the protections for previous conditions, josh holley of missouri, includes dana rohrbacher, opening a door for insurers to charge people more. health care is the top issue on the minds of many voters according to the polls. what republicans are trying to do is tie democrats to singer payer and shift the conversation. >> health care. >> i'll stay on health care. one of the provisions in the large opioid bill would require the use of u.s. postal service to screen for fentanyl. before this, you could presumably get it delivered to your doorstep. but more broadly, this opioid
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bill is a few thing that senators, congressmen and incumbents can talk about that is truly bipartisan and impacts people in their states. >> that's it for "inside politics." hope you can catch us weekdays at noon earn. up next "state of the union," dana bash sits down with republican senator susan collins from maine. she was a pivotal yes vote for judge kavanaugh's confirmation.
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is important to me so father being diagnosed with advanced no one can totally satisfy a craving, non-small cell lung cancer made me think of all the things that i wanted to teach my kids. (avo) another tru story with keytruda. (roger) my doctor said i could start on keytruda so i did. with each scan things just got better. (avo) in a clinical study, keytruda offered patients a longer life than chemotherapy. and it could be your first treatment. keytruda is for adults with non-small cell lung cancer that has spread... ...who test positive for pd-l1 and whose tumors do not have an abnormal "egfr" or "alk" gene. it's the immunotherapy with the most fda-approved uses for advanced lung cancer. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack normal organs and tissues in your body and affect how they work. this can happen anytime during or after treatment and may be severe and lead to death.
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see your doctor right away if you experience new or worsening cough, chest pain, shortness of breath, diarrhea, severe stomach pain or tenderness, nausea or vomiting, rapid heartbeat, constipation, changes in urine, changes in eyesight, muscle pain or weakness, joint pain, confusion or memory problems, fever, rash, itching or flushing, as this may keep these problems from becoming more serious. these are not all the possible side effects of keytruda. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions including immune system problems, or if you've had an organ transplant or lung, breathing, or liver problems. (roger ) before i'd think of the stuff i might miss. but now with keytruda, we have hope. (avo) living longer is possible. it's tru. keytruda, from merck. ask your doctor about keytruda.
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done deal. key republican senator susan collins makes the decision on the supreme court. >> i will vote to confirm judge kavanaugh. >> and the gop is now facing fierce backlash from women and political opponents. senator collins is here to explain her vote, next. and we'll get a response from judiciary committee democrat maise hirono in minutes. plus, final stretch, with a month to the midterm elections, both sides are trying to get out the vote. > will the bruising fight for the court rev up the
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