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woman who was the secretary of state, who is first lady of the united states, who got more than 60 million votes is supposed to go off on an iceberg and say nothing to anyone ever. i think that's just ridiculous. >> all right. >> this is an important person. she is not the only person, only person speaking for democratic party. but there you go. >> we got to leave there it, guys. thanks very much. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. and "outfront" next, we have breaking news. hurricane michael now a major category 3 storm, gaining strength as it closes in on the florida panhandle. i'll speak to a pilot flying over the storm who says no one should ride this one out. plus nikki haley suddenly quits as u.n. ambassador. why now? and who are the five people on president trump's short list to replace her? and mitch mcconnell is not done fighting after the kavanaugh battle. who is his new target? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm kate bolduan in for erin
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burnett. hurricane michael now called a historic life-threatening storm with sustained winds of 120 miles per hour. at this hour, the storm is intensifying as it heads towards the florida panhandle. michael is expected to make landfall tomorrow. president trump already declaring a state of emergency in florida and ordering homeland security and fema to coordinate all relief operations. this is michael we're going to show you as seen from space. terrifying. the fast-moving storm is heading north over the eastern gulf of mexico. more than 20 million people across five states are under hurricane watches or warnings tonight. michael is forecast to be the strongest storm to hit the u.s. this year. in all, some 300 miles of coastline are threatened with devastating winds, with storm surge up to 13 feet, and up to a foot of rain in parts of the state, bringing, of course, life-threatening flooding. perhaps most in danger are those living on islands off the coast.
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the bridges connecting them to the mainland may soon be closed, leaving people nowhere to go. residents are being urged to get out by tonight, or it may be too late. evacuation orders have been issued for 22 florida counties. florida's governor rick scott, he made his warning crystal clear today. >> we're going to do everything we can to help you, but do not wait. if there is an evacuation order, go to safety. if you're on the fence, don't think about it. do it. this storm can kill you. which are covering this dangerous storm with reporters spread out across florida's panhandle. let's begin with meteorologist allison chinchar. she is at the cnn weather center for us. allison, what is the latest on the path for hurricane michael? >> right, so we still expect landfall with hurricane michael to impact somewhere along the florida panhandle. likely late tomorrow afternoon. so, again, we're now down to less than 12 hours. right now winds are 120 miles per hour moving north at about 12 miles per hour. but it is still possible that
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this storm could intensify a little bit more before it makes landfall. now keep in mind a little bit more, well, let's say we jump up 10 miles per hour up to 130. that actually makes it a category 4. so we're close enough that it's something we have to keep a close eye on even though the official hurricane forecast keeps it only at a 3. here is a look at that track again. some time wednesday afternoon is when we expect it to make landfall over the panhandle of florida. from there it pushes up towards states like georgia, south and north carolina, and eventually bringing some of the heavy rain bands up towards virginia as well. storm surge is going to be one of the biggest concerns with, this especially along the coastline. this purple region here, including the city of apalachicola, we're now talking storm surge of 9 to 13 feet. the red areas you see here, including panama city, now you're talking 6 to 9 feet. even a city like tampa that seems very far away still likely to get storm surge of 2 to 4 feet.
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wind is going to be a concern. wind was not really the key component to hurricane florence, but this is a different storm. we're still expecting the forecast winds to be upwards of 100 miles per hour, and that's going to be widespread. the unfortunate thing there, kate, that can lead to power outages, not just along the coastline, but even cities far inland, like columbia or even atlanta could end up dealing with widespread power outages. >> all right. allison, thank you so much. i'm joined on the phone now by richard henning, a flight director with noaa's hurricane hunters. he is on board a plane that just flew over hurricane michael. richard, you hear me? >> yes, kate, i can hear you just fine. >> thank you so much. you have the very latest information on this storm. what are you seeing? >> well, right now we have three aircraft actually in the storm. we have noaa high altitude gulfstream iv jet.
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we're at 30,000 feet flying atop the storm. we have a p-3 which is a turboprop plane at low altitude penetrating the eye wall, and we also have an air force reserve c-130 doing the same thing from a different direction. so what we're seeing with all aircraft is that the storm is intensifying. the pressure in the center has dropped all the way down to 956 millibars, which is a lot lower than it was this morning. the lower the pressure in the eye, the stronger the storm is. and the winds have increased up to sustained winds of 120 miles per hour. so this is a legitimate category 3 hurricane. >> this is a major storm. there is going to be another national update at the top of the hour. do you think it's going to be gaining strength by then? >> i'm not sure they're going to bump up the intensity any in the
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next advisory or not. it all depends on what the aircraft finds down lower in the eye wall. however, the forecast with the hurricane center is for the storm to continue to intensify this evening up through the upper end of a category 3, close to category 4 intensity. so people need to be ready for that. and when you get right down to it, if you live along the shoreline, it doesn't really make much of a difference if it's a strong category 3 or a low-end category 4. for the destructive power, it's not -- there is not much difference. >> so from your perspective, flying through this with the latest data, when the governor says that this could be -- this is a monstrous storm, and it could be the worst destruction in a decade for the panhandle, you don't think he is overstating it? >> oh, not at all. i think you actually have to go all the way back to 1975 for the
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old-timer, there was a storm, hurricane eloise that followed a similar track and was very destructive. but there weren't nearly as many people living along the coastline in the panhandle back then. since then we had hurricane opal in 1995, hurricane ivan in 2004. they were both very, very destructive. and i think that unfortunately, michael is following right along with those type of storms, that type of devastation. >>that is terrifying. for perspective, you also flew over hurricane florence several times. how does hurricane michael compare to florence? do they look different? >> they are different storms. hurricane florence was much larger in terms of diameter. hurricane michael is more compact and intense.
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hurricane florence was weakening as it approached the coast. hurricane michael is intensifying as it's approaching the coast. so they're actually very different storms. >> i hope we still have you. i hope i still have you, richard. what worries you most as you're flying over this storm and this storm is getting closer and closer to land? >> well, again, the risk of storm surge and very, very powerful winds increasing. so everyone needs to heed the warnings of the local emergency management folks with this storm. this is not the storm that you want to ride out. >> richard henning, thank you so much. i really appreciate your time. >> yes, ma'am. and again, for all your audience listening on the florida panhandle, i would strongly urge everyone to have a plan and execute that plan right away for getting out. >> this coming from the man flying over this storm right
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now. that's an important warning. thank you again. >> thank you, ma'am. >> all right. "outfront" with me now, accuweather storm chaser reed timmer. he is on his way to florida city to ride the storm out. he called the storm a very dangerous situation and that the storm is likely to gain strength still. what are you anticipating? >> well, i can certainly reiterate just how dangerous this storm is going to be. it's intensifying. that's very different than hurricane florence that was w k weakening as it came. in hurricane harvey came in as a category 4 near rockport, texas, and the wind damage was absolutely catastrophic from that. any weak structure would be completely knocked down by winds of that. and with 125 miles per hour sustained winds you have gusts much stronger than that. that's basically like a widespread ef-2 or ef-3 tornado in terms of the damage. and then you have that catastrophic storm surge as well.
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anywhere near and just to the right of the center, and that's going to extend all the way down to even north of the tampa bay area. you have all different kinds of inlet there's and con cavity along the florida panhandle shoreline which is very storm surge-prone. you have 2 onshore winds hammering the coast. it's just not survivable on the barrier islands. >> the winds, even the thought of 120 sustained winds-mile-per-hour winds is a terrifying thought. i want to show our viewers, reed, video of dennis from 2005. its last time a hurricane hit the florida panhandle. when you see the destruction that was done back then, how vulnerable is the area where you're going to be? >> it is incredibly vulnerable. and looking back through the accuweather archive, all the way back to 1975 i can find a hurricane that was similar that took a similar track that was hurricane eloise that came in as a category 3 with maximum sustained winds of 125 miles per hour. this one could even be stronger than that. it's a very compact storm. who the knows how strong this could intensify.
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as the hurricane hunter pilot said, there is not much of a difference between a strong category 3 and a weak category 4. either one of those are going to be deadly, especially along those barrier islands near and just to the right of center. another hurricane that took a similar track was hurricane opal in 1995. that came in further west near the pensacola area and brought a 15-foot storm surge there in pensacola. there are dozens of fatales from both of those storms. so a storm like this, it's fast-moving. it's strengthening as it comes in. it's going to have a quick devastating storm surge. it's going to come in fast along with those winds, and it's just something you don't want to be a part of. >> reed, what do folks need to be prepared for if they decide to stick this out? do you think it's worse if we're going to talk about the winds that are coming ashore or the storm surge? >> well, i think it's both right near the shoreline. you have the winds and the storm surge. and eventually it's going to be too dangerous to leave. the surge in the water will come up well in advance of the storm system. now is the time to leave and get
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out of the path of this. but it's certainly a one-two punch with both that wind and the storm surge. very different from hurricane florence. >> very different from hurricane florence, and just as dangerous, if not more. we're going to check in with you throughout the week. reed we know you take many precautions to be safe as this is your job. thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, massive evacuation orders as hurricane michael strengthens. i'm going to talk the a mayor whose city could be right in the path of the storm tonight. plus, the president says there are five people on his short list to replace u.n. ambassador nikki haley. who the are they? lindsey graham says trump jokingly asked if he wanted to be attorney general. was it really a joke? your company is constantly evolving. and the decisions you make have far reaching implications. the right relationship with a corporate bank who understands your industry and your world can help you make well informed choices and stay ahead of opportunities. pnc brings you the resources of one of the
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breaking news. have a plan and execute that plan right away for getting out. that warning tonight from a noaa hurricane hunter that i just spoke to. the panhandle is about to see its first major hurricane since 2005. hurricane michael right now a category 3 that could approach the intensity of a category 4. "outfront" now is gary jarvis. he is the mayor of destin, florida, parts of which are under evacuation orders. mayor, thank you for coming in. >> you're welcome. glad to be here. >> thank you. the noaa hurricane hunt they're i just spoke with said no one should be riding out this storm along the shoreline. how worried are you tonight? >> fortunately, if the storm continues on its projected path,
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it bodes well for our community. we're going to be on the west side of the storm, which means we'll have winds out of the northeast and the east, which reduces threats of storm surge. the overall effect of the wind. i hate it for my brethren and friends and families to the east of us, but somebody's got to get hit, and right now it doesn't look like we're going to take the brunt of the storm. in many respects we're very thankful at the time. >> in many respects you're thankful and obviously hoping for best, but you still have the warning out to all the residents of destin to take heed? >> yes. we did mandatory evacuations this morning at 11:00 a.m. on the low-lying areas in our community. we had a great response from our visitors here, the tourists that were staying at a lot of these vacation rental areas, and from residents. i think everybody realizes this is a major storm. there can always be changes. so the people that are in jeopardy of flooding or storm surge, most of them have left
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those areas and gone to higher ground. and there is a lot of us that have been through a lot of these storms. been watching it very closely, taking it very seriously. but at the same time, there is a lot of us that are going to stay. >> you're going to be stick around, yeah. >> for a number of reasons. my family's here. our businesses are here. and i got this position as mayor. i feel a responsibility to stay here and hope to see the city through this epic event that we're about to take place tomorrow morning and tomorrow afternoon. >> and mayor, a category 3 storm has sustained winds of -- maximum sustained winds of 120 miles an hour. what could that mean for the panhandle? >> for the areas closest to the eye, the first 20 to 30 miles from the eye, it's going to tear up a bunch of stuff. that starts tearing roofs off, shingles, lays down a lot of trees. i'm sure that even with tropical
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storm winds, which is projected for our community, we're going see some power outages, downed trees, stuff like that. so our main focus is going to be assess the damage that we will get and try to get everything back up and running. this is our fall break for the kids, and we're going try to get this thing back together in time for saturday's check-in so we can have a good week next week. >> here's hoping that is possible, mayor. thank you very much. good luck to you and the community. appreciate your time. >> thank you. . >> "outfront" for us next, nikki haley's surprise resignation of u.n. ambassador. who is on president trump's short list now to replace her? and you wouldn't want to be attorney general, would you? have you ever had that question? lindsey graham says that was the question that president trump jokingly asked him, but was he really kidding?
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breaking news. president trump saying tonight he has five names on his list to replace outgoing u.n. ambassador nikki haley. one name not on the list, his daughter ivanka. the first daughter tweeting tonight the following, that
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replacement will not be me. now that we have that confirmed, this came soon after her father talked about her as glowingly as one could, saying that she would make a, quote, dynamite ambassador. so with ivanka trump off the list, who is on the short list? one name that i'm told is dina powell. she is a former adviser who left the administration last year. and she is -- she left the administration last year and is something that the president confirmed earlier tonight. >> dina is certainly a person i would consider, and she is under consideration. >> jeff zeleny is in council bluffs, iowa right now where president trump is about to take the stage for a rally. jeff, what else do we know about who might replace nikki haley and when it might happen? >> well, kate, the president said earlier today he plans to make this decision in the next two to three weeks. so it's unclear if it will be done before the midterm
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elections. there is no real hurry in this because of course she said she will stay until the end of the year. and this isn't exactly central on his mind. he is going to be doing a lot of rally stops like this. we are one month to the midterms. there is no question there will be a lot of people vying for the position. as of now, with ivanka trump saying she is not interested, and one of the reasons, kate, the reality is the financial disclosure she would have to go through for a confirmation is not something she would be willing to do. dina powell's name is first and foremost. but senator bob corker chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. he was a possible name mentioned. there will be a lot of people mention in order position. the question is, though, which direction will the president go. his cabinet is not exactly brimming over with women and minorities that is something he's been interested in and concerned about. we'll see if that is a factor
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for him, kate. >> despite what the president said earlier today, nikki haley's resignation did come as a surprise to many in the administration, right, jeff? >> no question. people inside the white house were not expecting the president to make that announcement today. but i'm told that he wanted to make the oval office announcement to make it look like someone was not leaving him in anger, that he was in charge of the departure. we've seen so many people essentially resigning by tweet or leaving by tweet. this was definitely a soft landing at an official office departure. but it was a surprise to john bolton, the national security adviser, to the secretary of state mike pompeo. it was very closely held. but, kate, the key thing, the dayton resignation letter was october 3rd that is a week ago tomorrow that is when nikki haley net with president trump in the oval office to give him that resignation letter that happened to come the morning after the president mocked christine blasey ford at a rally
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just like this in mississippi. so he did not want to publicly accept the resignation then in the middle of the kavanaugh fight. it was saved until today. it's one of the rare examples we've seen. the president kept this very close to the vest and virtually no one else knew about it. >> maybe the one and only that we at least reason v on the record right now. jeff, thank you very much. "outfront" with me tonight, doug high, former communications director for the rnc. paul begala, former white house counselor to president clinton and it's great to see you guys. great to have i donyou here, ju. what do you make of the announcement? quite a strange day. >> it was. and it was as jeff just pointed out, it's fairerly unusual to see somebody get the kind of oval office treatment on their way out the door. he kind of went out of his way. we know that nikki haley has felt pretty free to disagree with president trump. she wrote that op-ed in "the washington post" after the anonymous -- >> that's right. >> ran in "the new york times" basically saying i've had my differences with the president,
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but i'm never afraid to voice them. so that's sort of been her persona that she has forged within this administration. and for him to affirmatively want to do that photo op with her and talk at length about what she has meant to this administration i think was pretty significant. and i think there were interests, her interests and his interests was in showing an amicable parting. but i think we're going to find out in the months ahead what was behind this decision, why she timed it the way she did. i think jeff is right. she didn't want to leave and he didn't want her to leave in the middle of the kavanaugh fight. but there is also the midterm election coming up. >> right. >> and if republicans lose the house or the senate, which is a possibility, i think she did not want it to look like she was jumping ship at a difficult time. >> fascinating. the timing here, the timing here is an important thing. it is a fascinating thing, paul. the president today said that he knew -- he said he knew it was coming. listen to this. >> she told me probably six months ago, she said, you know, maybe at the end of the year, the end of a two-year period,
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but the end of a year, i want to take a little time off. i want to take a little break. >> but just to reiterate, as jeff was pointing out, sources tell cnn john bolton and mike pompeo were surprised by the announcement. in fact, it seems like almost senior administration officials, and there are a lot of them, were caught off guard by this. if it wasn't coordinated, if this was sudden, why? what does it mean? >> the truth is i have no idea. i have no idea why they can't get even -- this is a very important job, but this is a simple personnel matter, right? two years is a reasonable tenure for a u.n. ambassador, by the way. this will probably ruin her chances when she runs for president. she did a very good job. she is one of the stars of this star-crossed administration. and yet they can't seem to even get the blocking and tackling right. i have no idea why. i will say this. nikki haley, as u.n. ambassador, she has been able to manipulate -- not manipulate -- maneuver properly from allies
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and adversaries and all the back stabbing. and that's at the trump white house. she's had to do the same thing at the u.n. it's taken an enormous amount of diplomatic talent to get where she is. i just don't know why she is leaving so abruptly. it doesn't make sense. >> dip circumstances not your strong suit, i'll tell you that, paul. >> but here i'm praising her, though. i'm praising a republican. give me a little credit. >> you started by saying manipulating. >> i just misspoke. >> i'm kidding. i like to do that with you, except i'm not. haley did not shed much light today, doug,ed on why she is moving. she said clear it's not for personal reasons. she also said she believes in term limits which might come back to bietd hte her later. but she is not leaving because she has any presidential aspirations, at least in 2020. listen to this. >> i will say this. for all of you that are going to ask about 2020, no, i am not running for 2020. i can promise you what i'll be doing is campaigning for this one.
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>> this is about 2024? or more immediately, as julie was saying, is this about the presidential party getting shellacked in the midterm? >> obviously, some of us and myself expected that the party will at least on the house side get shellacked in the midterms. but no one is going to blame the u.n. ambassador for anything that happens politically in any given congressional district. especially given that nikki haley has been such a star for this administration, with so many white house and administration employees basically having a life span shorter than milk, that nikki haley has not only able to survive this long, but has really been able to thrive, build relationships, build credibility, and be a steady hand at very unsteady times. not only a rock star, but a real rock for this administration. it's not going to have any real impact on the elections. but certainly anything that happens in this white house we know is going to be more choppy water that they have to deal with. >> and of course, talk about the next choppy water for this
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position, whose going to replace nikki haley? she went out of her way, and i know forensically dissecting this, what they said in the oval office, but everything was fascinating. she went out of her way to effusively praise the president, his family, especially jared and ivanka, julie. watch this. >> i can't say enough good things about jared and ivanka. jared is such a hidden genius that no one understands. we're a better country because they're in this administration. >> so ivanka took herself out of the running tonight. dina powell, former deputy national security adviser, she is top of list, on the short list if you will because the president said that tonight. what are you hearing? who could it be? >> i think dina powell has a very good chance of getting this position. not only because the president has mentioned her, he then said on air force one to a bunch of reporters that she would love it. she is up for this. you know, and just as nikki haley went out of her way to
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show that she was very close with jared and ivanka, and there was no daylight between them. >> right. >> they're also very close with dina powell. they're all of a piece. there is a dwindling number of people. >> could she get confirmed easily? >> i feel she could be confirmed more easily than some of the people trump might choose for this post. she already was confirmed for a presidentially nominated position in the bush administration, so she has been through that process. >> true, true. >> she has done that and frankly, a lot of democrats who deal with foreign policy on capitol hill, for them she is a known quality. they trust her more than they might trust some other people who the president might consider, certainly more than ric green neri ric grenell, who is the ambassador to germany right now. he is quite partisan, or had been before he was in his current position. she might van easier time. but that said, it's going to be a fight. this will end up being sort of a proxy battle over president trump's foreign policy and his disdain for multilateral organizations like the u.n., and she will have to deal with that,
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just as any nominee would have to deal with that. >> i think that's an excellent point. >> if she ends up being the person. >> that's an excellent point. paul, the president says all the time, it's almost like a verbal crutch. he says oh, in two or three weeks. it could come in six months at this point. what do you think? >> i think julie is right, that it could be a proxy war, but it doesn't have to be. let me throw one more name out. again, it's going to ruin the person's chances. kay bailey hutchins. the most powerful military alliance in world history, she has been our ambassador there. she has protected america's interest there's. i think very admirably, very well. she is a former senator, was on the armed services committee. she would be confirmed in an afternoon. and a texas longhorn. >> you are so biased. it is impossible to deal with you. >> i'm a fan of senator hutchins. she would be a terrific choice. >> she is now never going to get
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it because you did that. the president today said a lot of people, doug, want haley's job. do you think many people do want this post? we know that spots have been a challenge to fill in the past. >> sure. it's one of the most high profile foreign policy jobs in the world. anybody who is interested in that line of work, that's the top job that you can get, basically. but i would echo what paul said, not just about kay bailey hutchinson, but also about dina powell. it's very important for donald trump, we know that he's obviousobvious obviously struggled with women. it's one of the issues of why this didn't happen during the kavanaugh hearings and so forth. donald trump doesn't have a lot of women at the top of his administration. that's certainly more true in foreign policy. so having a dina powell or a kay bailey hutchinson i think is a very smart move for the president, moving forward to continue the really strong work that nikki haley was performing for the administration. >> all of you hidden geniuses. in my mind, let us see who is correct. >> very hidden. >> very, very hidden for some of you. thank you, guys. "outfront" for us next, lindsey
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president trump asked
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republican senator lindsey graham if he'd want to serve as attorney general. senator graham telling our manu raju that the president was joking. but was he? you judge for yourself. the conversation took place on the golf course, of course, and it went something like, this according to lindsey graham. president trump asking, quote you wouldn't want to be attorney general, would you? graham's response, no, i wouldn't give this up for anything. and then trump, quote, yeah, i didn't think so. that would be kind of stupid. "outfront" now, cnn senior political analyst mark preston. >> the most honest conversation we've ever heard in politics, kate. >> graham says he was joking about the attorney general job. do you buy it? >> let's just pick this apart. was donald trump joking? probably in some way. >> he is always joking and not joking. it depends on the answer i feel like. >> 100%. donald trump no doubt was floating a trial balloon. and let's not forget it was lindsey graham who has come out and basically has provided cover
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to donald trump with just a few weeks ago said he understood -- understands why he doesn't want jeff sessions as his attorney general. >> right. >> going in to a new year. so i don't know. and i bet you what, i bet you lindsey graham enjoyed being asked whether he wanted to be attorney general. >> regardless. and he is up in 2020. he is going to say i'm going to stay in this job for as long as the good folks of south carolina are going to keep me there. that's the answer you have to give. also tonight, mitch mcconnell is firing back at hillary clinton after clinton warned democrats in a cnn interview that in her view, civility isn't possible with republicans in charge. listen to this. >> you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. that's why i believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and/or the senate, that's when civility can start again. but until then, the only thing that the republicans seem to
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recognize and respect is strength. >> she told cnn exactly how she views millions of americans who hold different political views from her own. no peace until they get their way? more of these unhinged tactics? apparently this is the left's rallying cry. >> i find this fascinating. i mean, clinton is really going after republicans here. but mcconnell, i don't know if he can say he is exactly quoting her correctly. what's your take? >> i feel like we're bringing hillary clinton back into the mix. look, they put themselves back in the mix. >> that's exactly right. >> she's done the interview. she's made the comments. we're relitigating the days of hillary clinton as a u.s. senator and mitch mcconnell as senator and fighting over some type of legislation. it was very smart by mitch mcconnell to immediately seize upon those comments at a time right now when we've seen republican support grow, certainly around the kavanaugh hearings. what he is trying to do is he is trying to send a message to the
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older republican voters who still hate the clintons, who are disgusted with the clintons, who he needs to come out and vote in the midterm elections. totally a strategic play, and kind of a smart play actually on mitch mcconnell's part. >> no civility on one side. you have mob rule on the other. here is your branding for midterm. so it's uplifting. great to see you, man. thanks. >> thanks. up next, a new poll shows democrats ahead of republicans by double-digits in the fight for congress. will it last, though, until election day? and we also have new breaking details on the mysterious disappearance of a "washington post" contributor who vanished after entering the saudi arabian consulate in turkey. with lower expense ratios than comparable vanguard funds. and we're now offering zero expense ratio index funds. that's value you'll only find at fidelity. ♪ one thing leads another thaexbut are you gettinglotnd enough of their nutrients?, new one a day with nature's medley is the only complete multivitamin
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weave. a cnn poll showing good news for democrats come november. 54% of likely voters in the new poll say they'd choose a democrat over republican for congress right now. 41% would pick a republican over the democrat. it's a 13 point gap. the new numbers giving hope to democrats on the ballot, of course, especially one in a crucial swing district in iowa, a district that voted for obama, then for trump. kyung lah is "outfront" with the latest in our series "born to run." ♪ >> reporter: in northeast iowa, signs of a turning tide in a critical swing district. did you vote for president obama? >> one time i did, yeah. >> reporter: and how did you vote in this last presidential? >> for the president, trump as president. there. >> you go, andy. >> reporter: 73-year-old larry block, iowa born and raised. a typical first congressional
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district voter. elected president obama twice. president trump flipped it, winning by four points. this november, block says he is swinging back to democrats. what do you think of congressman blum versus the challenger? >> i would say it's probably just time for a little change. and that's where a lot of us i think anymore are voting. we like to see changes in politics. >> reporter: that change, challenger and democrat abbey thinkenauer. still paying off her college loans. running on her working class upbringing to protect blue collar america. >> this is not how we treat people in my state or in my country. and i was going to do whatever i could to get elected. >> reporter: you're talking a lot about the forgotten people. that's what president trump talked about, and he won this district. >> president trump in this administration walked around my
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district, walked around the state of iowa saying that they cared about working families, and the last two years, all we saw are policies that go after them. >> ain't nobody like a democratic party because the democratic party don't stop. say what? >> reporter: democratic energy fuels rise against two-term incumbent rod blum. she is ahead in the polls. >> no hate, no fear! >> reporter: blum, weighed down by an ethics investigation was topped in recent fundraising. at the first debate, blum slipped in through the back. how you feeling about tonight? >> oh, great. finally getting to discuss the issues. >> welcome to the first debate between the two candidates. >> reporter: the president's policies center stage. >> i believe the president. he broke canada. he will break china, and our farmers will come out ahead for the next 20 years. >> look, this administration decided to start a trade war on twitter. that's not how you get something done. >> thank you very much. have a great campaign, and good
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night, everyone. >> reporter: blum turned us down for an interview. >> guy, i'm sorry, but he doesn't want to talk to anybody. >> reporter: he just went out the back? >> yeah. >> reporter: blum is counting on supporters like john hoffman. >> a lot of corn. >> reporter: an independent, he voted for obama and then trump. while the trade war with china hurts him now, he wants trump and blum to have more time. >> i think experience helps in anything you do in life. we'll see how that plays out with the voters in the district, though. >> reporter: blum is considered among the most vulnerable incumbents running in this midterm. if finkenauer should win, she will be making history. america has never elected a woman in her 20s to congress. kate? >> thank you so much. it was a really great look at that race. really appreciate it. "outfront" with me tonight,
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larry sabato from the virginia center of politics. great to see you, larry. thanks for coming. in. >> thank you, kate. >> so what is this race that kyung took a great look at right there? what does this race tell you about the larger landscape of the midterms right now? >> it tells you in the swing districts, there the first district of iowa is very much a swing district. one of the most interesting things in the new cnn poll that came out is the gender divide. it is a theme we have been talking about for a while now. but if you look at this new poll and you look at likely voters, 63% of women want the democrats in their district. just a third want the republicans. you don't see nearly that margin when it comes to men. what does that mean in these congressional districts?
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>> well, it certainly is helping democrats a great deal. it is pretty clear that women have been driving the surge in the democratic party in this particular midterm. there are a record number of women candidates from top to bottom of the ballot. and when you look at volunteers, activism and voters, you find that women are disproportionally democratic and men are still leaning republican in most places. so the gender gap is becoming a gend gender chazm. >> who turns out is what is going to matter in the end. what can republicans do? do you see in the amount of time in your vast history in looking at these projections, do you see an amount of time to turn the tide on the gap that we're seeing in these generic ballots
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between democrats and republicans right now? >> i think there is only one way to do it, kate. the republicans will have to find ways, not just one way, but ways, to get more republican women out to vote. republican women, by and large, are sticking with the gop because our major divide today isn't gender. it's party. r versus d. so they need to do everything they can to get women re-engaged and out to vote. if they can't do that, then they're going to lose more districts than they expect. >> larry, great to see you. thank you. >> thank you, kate. >> outfront for us next, a washington post contributor vanished without a trace. was he murdered? we have new breaking details about this story. we'll be right back. ♪
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who mysteriously vanish ed. he disappeared after he walked into a saudi arabian consolate. alex is outfront with me now. alex, what happened or at least what do we know happened that day at the consolate. >> we are learning more details that adds more layers to this mystery. the staff that works at that consolate was told to take the day off that he disappeared. that's according to officials. that newspaper also reporting that security footage from inside the consolate was removed and taken, they say, by private jet back to saudi arabia. this was the last time jamal was seen. just after 1:00 p.m. exactly a week ago. tv cameras capturing entering the consolate in istanbul.
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since then the mystery has only deepened. >> i know nothing right now. i know what everybody else nose, nothing. >> the saudis insist he left the consolate inside. everything, including entries and exits are being investigated, turkey's president said. departures and arrivals to airports are also under investigation. caught in the middle is his 36-year-old turkish fiance. she waited 11 hours for him. he had been concerned that something could happen. maybe it's better if i don't go, he told his fiance. he was worried that something might happen, she told the washington post. he had once been an adviser to saudi arabia's royal
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authoritarian rulers. we went into exile. >> i received an order ordering me to go silent with no court decree, just someone from the royal court, an official from the royal court who was close to the leadership and ordering me to be silent. >> today saudi arabia is all but run by the young run prince. the prince has tried to project himself as a reformer while continuing to muzzle and arrest his critics. >> i knew he had a lot of pressure. i knew he particularly felt the pressure that was being applied to his family to try to get to him. >> after an initial silence, the trump administration and capitol hill have stepped up their demands on saudi arabia for an explanation while his fiance waits. i am not giving up hope, but i need to know, where is jamal? i have to know what has happened
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to him. >> now, kate, there is the possibility that he is still alive, that he was smuggled out of the consolate to saudi arabia. two jets brought 15 saudis to istanbul that very same day and left back to riyadh that night. it is possible that he does re-emerge in saudi arabia, but, kate, it is not looking good. >> thanks so much for joining us. ac-360 starts now. we have breaking news tonight on two fronts. a cabinet level departure in the white house and a major hurricane heading straight to the panhandle. we will start with hurricane michael. now a cat three storm with winds approaching category four intensity by land fall. there is nothing between it and florida, nothing except the kind of warm water that hurricanes feed on. just a few minutes ago, forecaster got