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picture of the damage it inflicted because of the areas have been cut off. but what we have been able to see, it's awful. entire neighborhoods have been obliterated. street after street filled with rubble, thousands of trees and power lines down, cell service out, rescues under way even as we speak. four people have lost their lives in florida. one in georgia and one in north carolina where rivers have been overflowing from all the rain. authorities there and in virginia warning of life-threatening flash flooding. near half a million north carolinians are now without power as a result of the storm, which has knocked out power to more than a million people in six states so far. our brooke baldwin joins us now. walk us through, brooke, what you have been seeing. >> reporter: sure. so we were one of the very first crews to get on the ground and see what's rested to as ground zero, mexico beach with our own eyes.

you know, roads as you were pointing out because of the powerful 150-mile-an-hour winds, roads are impassable. power lines are down. trees were down so we were able to secure a helicopter really early this morning. i started here in destin. as we flew along what is known as florida's gorgeous emerald coast, we started watching the coastline deteriorate from destin to panama city beach and as we landed, in looking at it all first hand, you can tell quickly that it's virtually gone. from the air, it's clear, much of mexico beach is gone. from the ground we see up close the devastation to the seaside city. home after home on this stretch of beach destroyed. while most of the 1,200 residents evacuated, a small number stayed behind. we don't know yet how many survived the near director hit from hurricane michael. scott didn't make it out in time. the bridges closed and he was

stuck. how does it make you feel to look around at everything just leveled? >> well the thing is, you know, this is mall little town. so all the restaurants gone, every store is gone all my neighbors, everybody's home's gone. so when you think about it, you know, all of their lives are gone. so how do you -- what do you do? >> reporter: scott says he lost most of his possessions, but he will stay and rebuild. >> the stuff i thought i had -- all of the stuff of value is even gone here. it's hard no talk -- to talk about it. >> reporter: all over the area, we heard this constant high-pitched beeping. they are fire alarms, buried in the rubble, warnings that perhaps came too late. again and again i heard from

survivors here who told me they're simply grateful to be alive. these three friends were searching for one of their homes. it was hard for them to even recognize the street. >> wow, no -- there are just no -- there are no words. >> no, there's not. there's so many memories here. >> reporter: this woman named sherry says she didn't have time to grab anything but some clothes and her jewelry box. >> and to see this. >> yes. >> it feels like what? >> i can't describe it. it's just terrible. i just can't describe the feeling and i know i'm not the only one here that feels the same when they've lost everything. >> reporter: mexico beach is virtually cut off from the rest of the state. though emergency crews are working throughout the area, roads are still blocked. power is out. and cell service is non-existent. >> halle, it's mama.

i'm okay. i'm okay. it was a lot more than and a lot rougher than we thought. how are you guys? >> reporter: our satellite phone was the only way for these women to contact their loved ones. >> i love you, too. bye. >> reporter: oh, your daughter. >> oh. >> reporter: the best part of the day, anderson, connecting these people. there's no cell service on mexico beach. the loved ones, they see the picture up on the screen. they have been wondering if their moms, dads, sisters brothers were alive. we were able to connect them and show them at least those who chose to road it out are. six faattachments in the wake of this hurricane. it's so early, they told me that number will rise, anderson. >> brooke baldwin, appreciate

it. florida senator marco rubio has been surveying the damage. he joins us from there. thank you for being with us. can you describe what have you seen? >> well, i haven't seen mexico beach other than what we saw from the overhead images. i'm here at the fema emergency center in panama city, bay county. very substantial damage. this is as bad as it gets in terms of power lines, property damage the mexico beach thing may turn out to be a horrifying tragedy in terms of both the property loss, i think the loss of life. i was talking to the police chief, he was describing up to the last minute they were begging people to leave. i'm talking at least a couple residents who were very elderly and a family with children, eight or nine, ten children that remained behind. you know, communications are down up here. so it's still hard to sort of account for everybody. and i don't want to speculate too much yet, but when that storm surge comes in it didn't

just take a roof off a home, it takes anything that was in it. so it's a tough situation. it's really truly catastrophic as a storm in general, panama city in many cases, but the mexico city beach thing i'm not sure i've seen anything like it. >> and obviously with communications down, it's so difficult for families who haven't gotten word from their loved ones. from what you've seen so far and learnling in the operations center, obviously search and rescue operations are under way in a number of areas. is the state equipped to handle the needs that people are facing right now? >> so the state -- florida -- here's sort of the sort, the most important need is to get communication out.

verizon is the lead provider in this area. it still is not working. at&t is working a little bit. but that's a big deal. the general public does not have access to each other or to information. and even the sort of first responder radio system, it's finally kind of coming online. so communication is critical, and then i think starting tomorrow these shelters where people have been and other places start to run out of food and the conditions there deteriorate. but then you're going to sort of have some longer term planning for feeding people and housing people. and those are the sorts of things that can come upon you very quickly. power is going to take a while. this is not a system that needs to be restored. it needs to be rebuilt in some parts. living in florida, i've lived through a bunch of these. this is not a couple lines down. it's a total annihilation of the

system, and it's going to take them a while to get going. >> are there maces in the state you know about that first responders have been able to get to just in terms of access? >> well, again, communications is impeding some of that. i think mexico beach is an example of a place we just don't have any communications. we know search and rescue crews have been there and are going house by house. but part of it is just some of the landmarks you would rely on in the past are not there. i don't know if there's any area that's been completely cut off. but i am sure there are unfortunately some people who might be in need we don't know about because they have no phone, no internet, no way to call 911 or get anyone to come to them. that is the challenge i'm really most concerned about is the inability to communicate with people who might be in need after the fact. and that's why getting this -- and without power, by the way, even if we were able to restore communications tomorrow, there are people who won't be able to

charge a phone for example or communicate that way. i think my biggest concern is being able to survey all this area. it's going to take a bit. so, yeah, great people doing everything they can, but we've got some real challenges here. >> and obviously people without power are not going to be hearing you tonight, but what is your message to the people of florida tonight who do have power as they start to try and put things back together or figure out what the next step is? >> well, first thing i always tell them is that tease things are very disruptive, even if you didn't have property damage. it takes kids weeks to get back to school and everything else. but i want them to know the best people in the world from disaster response are on the case. they're the best in the world at what they do. all that said it is going to be weeks before people have power. i hope they're staying here at a hotel room after evacuating.

you give up that hotel room it's not going to be there when you go back. i know you want to see the condition of your home, but you're going to have no power. no one is going to be able to help you if you get into some trouble on the short term. have a bit of patience and faith this thing's going to get a little bit better every day. but these first couple of days are always hard, but this is as bad as it gets. >> senator rubio, thank you and good luck. as difficult as it must be for any elected official to see the disruption of the lives of constituents, she watched brooke baldwin's reporting and joins us now by phone. councilwoman, you know this community. i can't imagine seeing the images we are seeing and knowing it as well as you do. what are you hearing?

have you been able to talk to people? how are things right now in terms of search and rescue and the like? >> well, thank you for keeping this on the news and letting people know what a frightful event that mexico beach residents are going through. i am not there. i evacuated as they had mandatory evacuations. i'm about six hours away. but i have been asked via texting. and communications via texting is very bad. cellphones don't work, powers out. so just from word of mouth and texting. cleanup is slow. we have a lot of volunteers that have organized, and they are cleaning up the streets. the roads going in and out of mexico beach have been filled with debris, and the big equipment has not been able to get in as of this point that i'm

aware of. our city employees who were able to get in because they lived in mexico beach or close by, they are running out of food and water. so supplies are being airlifted either tonight or tomorrow morning so that they can continue on with their jobs. we also have eoc, our interim administrator will be representing mexico beach at the bay county eoc because they have supplies put there but mexico beach wasn't represented all of the time. and so she's just stepping in and saying i'm going to go there for what and fight for what we need.

>> that's the operations center for people who don't know. do you know how your house is tonight? >> i live on the east side of town on 98th and i'm watching the film right now and i recognize -- it's hard when you look at these homes because they're in such disarray it's hard to say yes, i recognize it. but up until just now i have never found a video on the east side of town on 98th. i live right on 98th. i did hear -- so i don't know officially, but i did hear from somebody secondhand, that i live on a house on stilts. and i was told just about an hour ago that my house is not an stilts. it's gone. i don't know that officially, and you know how rumors go around. we've heard various rumors for

the last 24 hours. but i'm grasping to the hope and praying that a miracle happens, but it could be very realistic. >> councilwoman, i'm so sorry for all you're going through and your community. and i know everyone is thinking about it and praying. >> could i just say one thing. >> sure. >> i'm just asking the residents not return to mexico beach yet. they are not ready to have people return. the roads are full. and the most people that return they're just going to get in the way. and i know this and i mentioned it on another program that this weekend will be nice weather and many of them will want to drive down there and see -- but until we notify you, please don't come down and get in the way of the cleanup crew. >> councilwoman, i wish you the best. thank you. just a short way from mexico

beach is georgia island. it took a one two munch and storm surge. you can see tree branches washing by, shingles, siding, pieces of front porches, timbers. a wreckage of a lot of lives floating in a front yard. kristen miller road it out. thanks for being with us. can you describe the damage that's been done to your friend mandy's house? >> it's basically going to have to be completely gutted and started over from the ground up. i had my mother stand against the wall with her friend, and she's about 5'2", but the water would have been well over her head if she'd have been in the house at the time. >> so it was both, and i know we're look at the house now. so it was both the wind and the water, the flooding?

>> oh, yes, of course. the flooding went the highest its ever been on the island. my house is almost exactly halfway from the base of the gulf, and i had water at least over a foot in my house. and i had never dreamed water would get that high. no resident that lives there have seen water get that high before. our family has been there for 100 years. >> i assume the damage is just as bad. >> it is. most of the houses that are on this side have lost anything that was on the ground level, it's just completely washed through it like it wasn't even there. >> i heard that you described the storm as feel like a freight train coming from all directions. >> yes, that's exactly how it felt. we were in an 111-year-old home, and the second story we could see, you know, straight across the buildings to the bay and watched the storm as it came in. and it felt like a monster

coming down on top of you the whole time, you know? my dad kept saying it'll be over in a couple of hours, we're about in the worst of it now, and i think he repeated that three times. seemed like it was never going to stop. >> even when people say it's a fast moving storm, it doesn't feel like that when you're in it. >> yeah, not when you're in it. >> krista miller, thank you for taking the time to talk with us. >> as obviously the councilwoman said right now is not the time but as soon as we get things back up and running the best way people can help us is to contribute to our local economy. coming up next, people waiting to hear from loved ones who were in places like mexico

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as hard as it is to watch some of the images coming in from hurricane michael's aftermath and the destruction as we speak from the carolinas and virginia, there are also people who have yet to hear from their loved ones in the path. it's spotty at best and in some places nonexistent. travel in and out of the region is difficult and dangerous. she joins us now, appreciate you being with us, lisa. tell us about the last contact you had with your brother yesterday. >> hi, thank you for having me. yesterday around 2:00 or 1:30, excuse me, he texted me they were okay and we lost contact after that. that's the last i heard from him. >> i understand his girlfriend was with him at the time. has anyone heard from her?

>> no, not as of yet. just hoping it's because he's probably out there helping people. if i know him, he's a great guy and maybe still because of no cell service, i'm hoping. >> well, our brooke baldwin was out there and gave her sat phone to somebody. so there's a lot of people who do not have access to obviously communication. i understand a family friend is currently looking for him trying to get into the mexico beach area. have they had any success getting there? >> well, i just heard from his daughter not too long ago and going back in looking for danny again. danny works with him. they have the strike zone fishing charter they run, and danny's pretty much emptied out the mexico beach ocean, if you will. he's a good fisherman. >> can you just tell us the area he lives in just in case somebody is hearing this somehow and it gets to get to the area, they can ask around?

>> oh, yes. thank you so much. tracy lives in beacon hill which is at kaelin lane. i think that's about 4 miles of mexico beach. really close there still to mexico beach. >> and your brother was in that area with her? >> yes, they had decided to stay back and just ride it out. he had boarded up her windows, and, you know, he was confident that he could survive and so i am, too. i've got a lot of hope yet. >> well, lisa, i appreciate you being with us. if you could just stay with us for a moment, i want to go to miguel marquez who's in mexico beach. he was been trying to get the word out about people who got through storms and want their loved ones elsewhere to know it. miguel, explain where you are and what you've been seeing. >> reporter: well, this is downtown mexico beach. we're just down from the main

pier of mexico beach where there are a lot of survivors who are starting to gather there. we asked about mr. wiggins. nobody either knew him or knew where he was or how he was doing. there's a firefighter -- this is highway 98, the main road through town. huge chunks of it are now missing. there's a firefighter that comes up through her once in a while, and he's very, very helpful. knows everything and almost everyone in town. and the next time he comes by we will ask about mr. wiggins and see if he's heard everything. i wanted to read off a few other names. robin, she wants her family in michigan to know she's okay. don vick, she wants her family -- dawn, her daughter, her grandson, their three dog, they are all okay. her family's in vernon, florida.

robert brock, he wants his family to know he's okay. dave seabering wants his mother in mobile, alabama, to know husband he's okay. and arnette cofield, and her mother, 92-year-old mother looks like they're both okay and looks like they're going to get out on an ambulance soon. i heard the councilperson speaking about the amount of assistance and help they had. they have search and rescue in here right now, about 165 search and rescuers trying to go house to house. they have stopped through the evening. i don't think they can work through the evening because conditions are too dangerous, and it's very, very difficult to communicate out of here. us getting this live shot out is done with shoestring and bubblegum. this, what you're looking at behind me, 36 hours ago those were beautiful homes and businesses, and literally they have been scrubbed, washed, buzz sawed down to the foundation.

that is sadly the situation with much of mexico beach right now. we drove in from 68 today and drove up through the neighborhood. there's not any one property in this town that is unaffected. some of it is 100% gone. much of it is damaged. at least 50%, 60%, and maybe a small amount has just very minimal damage. we did meet a gentleman earlier who we leapt him our phone and he got on with his daughter and begged her, do not come here, there's nothing happening here, everything is gone. and he went onto list the neighbor's uh-uh cross the street is gone, everything is absolutely gone here. he's staying here, though. his house has some damage, but he thinks he can patch it up and

be okay. >> we're seeing a vehicle passing by. do you have a sense how many emergency personnel are on the ground? they stopped for the night because obviously very difficult to get around. but do you have a sense how many emergency personnel are there or search and rescue teams? because obviously time is of the essence -- >> we know that -- >> go ahead. >> we know search and rescue here from both florida and louisiana. there's about 165 of them. they are on 24 hour shifts. it is difficult for them to work at night. this is the law enforcement presence coming there. there must be be a dozen maybe 18 cars coming through. actually you can see they're bringing in even more vehicles so they can get back and search in different ways. it is absolutely eerie to see these vehicles come through here. they do have one bulldozer

that's been working to clear this road throughout the day, but parts of it are completely impassable. the strength of the water completely washed away 98, large chunks of it gone right in the middle middle of town. so you have to kind of snake through the back yards and through some of the other neighborhoods here to get around to the other -- these are probably county and florida based search and rescuers who are going to get up and start working here and getting into these neighborhoods and seeing who's here. it's just, there is so much confusion. people cannot find their loved ones and people can't get word out that they are all right, and we're just going to stay here and see what we can do. anderson? >> miguel marquez, we were talking to lisa baldwin. she is looking for her brother

danny wiggins. obviously anybody who can ask about him. and you reading the names of people who are elsewhere and can't get in touch. i can't of anything i've done in the last several days as important as what you've just done. if you could, could you just read them again just in case? i just want to make sure any family out there is able to hear you. if you could read them again i'd appreciate it. >> robin redslof, her family in michigan. robert brock, he's okay. his family is in florida. david seabert, his mother in mobile, alabama. she left. he stayed here but now he's regretting it, but he wants her to know he's okay.

annette cofield and her 92-year-old mother, they barely made it through, she said. the houses are gone, mother's in a wheelchair, but they are probably getting out in an ambulance if they are not already gone by now. but they are all okay. >> and obviously any family members or friends of people who are out there and heard that, please call other members of the family to let them know. miguel, just quickly, where are people tonight? i mean, if somebody's home has been zrodestroyed, where are th staying? >> some of them are staying in their homes, no matter how bad they are. fortunately it's not too hot and miserable a night here. a lot of people we met there's an area just up the road where a lot of the emergency personnel are gathering. we couldn't do our live shots there because there was too much interference with the satellite signal. but a lot of them are staying there. there are convenience stores with everything, all the potato chips, juices, everything has

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panama city with the roof peeled off. damage so severe a storm chaser was able to fly a drone right through the school. principal rick smith joins us now. i appreciate you coming back. can you just talk about the damage that your school sustained, when you saw that drone image, what went through your mind? >> well, it was heart wrenching because i know that for our kids and our community that gym is a hub of activity. it's where we have all our basketball and volleyball games. we have great community support, and it's also the place where our students, eight graders where they graduate and move onto high school. it's a central hub for the school in addition to the students that in the morning before classes begin, that's where they go. so it's very concerning, and what was heart wrenching because i know it's such a part of our kids every day and school year,

for them to see that type of devastation, it's heart breaking. >> i understand your staff has been going door-to-door checking on students. what are you hearing back from them in. >> we're hearing great things so far. we have a great staff there. they happen to live near some kids that have taken it upon themselves to knock on the doors and check on them. they've seen them as they've been going from various neighborhoods. and the kids seem to be very positive. they seem to be looking forward to eventually being able to come back to school. and we're going to be excited to see them. but so far so good. it seems like in terms of loss of life or injury for our kids it doesn't necessarily seem to have happened in that way. but we know they have a lot of property damage, so there lives will be disrupted in the weeks and months ahead. >> i know there was damage to the cafeteria. hew did the rest of the school

fare, and what sort of resources have you lined up or do you need lined up for students? >> our gym is demolished and the cafeteria as you said the roof, about half of it its peeled off. our classrooms we believe are going to be fine. they have hurricane shutters on those. and those were locked in place. we took time in the beginning of the week to get the school ready for the storm. what we don't know in terms of how the roof fared and if there's any structural damage we just haven't been able to see. i know our school district is working very closely with emergency management services to assess the schools, make sure they are safe. i know our superintendant, safety and security is his number one priority. i feel very confidential before we have any students or even staff members go into those facilities, we're going to have a very high level of confidence that those places are safe for them to go. >> well, principal smith, i know there's a lot of work ahead of

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it's taken this whole day to start to come to terms with the scope of the destruction of michael. and there'll be dark days to come for so many people who have lost everything. americans suffering tonight who are missing their loved ones, not sure of the fate of their loved ones. and up into this program we've focused on them. well, hundreds and thousands of americans are suffering right now tonight, the president of the united states decided earlier today to take time to yuck it up with kanye west, one of his celebrity fans. we'll get to surreal substance, if we can even call it that of what happened in the oval office in a moment, but first a reminder at least six people have died vlt as a result of hurricane michael including a child in georgia.

>> we saw like three trees landing on all three of our neighbor's yards and everything and that really got me scared and everything. >> chris, you're only 12 years old, i've got to ask, were you afraid you were going to die? >> yes. because i have a life to live or my future, and my dream job, i want to be a construction builder. >> that was just after 1:00 this afternoon. at nearly the precise time the president was riffing with kanye west. we're going to show you exactly what was going on in the afternoon in the oval office. it'll be on the right half of your screen, on the other half what the cameras captured on the devastation up to that point. >> you know, my dad and my mom separated, so i didn't have a lot of male energy in my home,

and also i'm married to a family that, you know, not a lot of male energy going on. it's beautiful, though, but there's time where -- you know, it's something about -- you know, i love hillary, i love everyone, right. but the campaign i'm with her, just didn't make me feel as a guy that did want get to see my dad all the time, like a guy that could play catch with his son. it was something about when i put this hat on, it made me feel like super man. because i have the balls, because i have enough balls to put on this hat. i was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, i was connected with a neuro psychologist that works with the athletes in the nba and nfl and, and he looked at my brain and i'm going to go ahead and drop some bombs for you, 98

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kanye west talked about a lot of things. in addition to what you heard he talked about stop and frisk, attention deficit disorder, crime in chicago, programs, it wept on and on. this isn't about the worthiness of those topic or even about kanye west. this is about the president sitting there, laughing, saying kanye west can speak for him anytime, putting on this show less than 24 hours after the worst hurricane that may ever hit the florida panhandle made landfall. why did the president spend this time of all days with kanye west? because kanye west is a fan of his. the president hay lack empathy for many americans, but he always has time for his fans. just last night he was at one of his rallies in pennsylvania on the same day when the worst hurricane to make landfall on the cond continental united

states. >> i heard we have thousands of people lined up, so we are a bit of a quagmire. i don't want to disappointment people. some people were saying they got their last night. i believe it starts at 7:00, going to pennsylvania. so we'll probably go, because what are you going to go, tell thousands of people that have been waiting there all night we're not coming. >> they'd been waiting there all night, so had the hundreds and thousands in florida and georgia that had lost power. they'll spent all night waiting and many nights to come. maybe you think there's no hypocrisy that mr. trump tweeted this two weeks after hurricane sandy. quote, yesterday obama campaigned with jay-z and spring at the scene while hurricane sandy victims across new york and new jersey are still decimated by sandy. wrong. that happens all the time.

there is is has been said many times a tweet from donald trump for everything. for this, this president, what used to be wrong is now right simply because it's him doing it. do as he says, not as he does. what you're seeing isn't happening. and he always seems to be able to find a crowd of people to go along with it and cheer him on. it's a wildly held belief that president george w. bush never recovered from his response to hurricane katrina. he flew over the scenes of the damage in air force one initially too little, too late, too far removed. denying thousands of puerto ricans, americans died in the aftermath of maria, died from lack of power and lack of access to doctors and medicine than they ordinarily would have. the president doesn't recognize those deaths, those human beings as victims of the storm. last night he was at a campaign

rally while many were sitting without power, mourning the loss of their loved ones, the homes they once knew. tonight we started to see how it was. we heard that 12-year-old boy talk about how he thought he was going to die. the president watches he was listening to a big name celebrity in the oval office. the president was busy basking in warm glow when the cameras are rolling, when he's center stage and a famous person is praising him to his face. joining me now is van jones. and david gergen. is kanye west cursing the oval office the right messenger. much less a day when millions are reeling from a devastating hurricane ask beyond that i don't understand what the president of the united states

and the people around him would be thinking this was a wise thing to do today. >> look, there's a right way and pa wrong way. for celebrities. people who have big platforms to engage the white house. frankly his wife is a good example. it involves preparation. focus on a particular ask. and no cameras. you can actually have a conversation. this is a situation where none of those rules were followed. he obviously wasn't as prepared as he could have been. no focus and cameras. it became a big show. we have to accept what we saw was someone who is not in a healthy place. from a mental point of view and emotional. we have to back off of treating him like a pin ya ta. it was mental health awareness week. the white house didn't show good judgment in having him there with the cameras.

he's not in a healthy place emotionally. psychology and the white house shouldn't put people like that in front of cameras. >> i don't think it's about kanye west. under what circumstances would anyone in the white house think this is good for the president to be doing? >> i agree with what you both said. listen, i have no trouble with president's calling in celebrities to the white house and enjoying company. this is started way back with warren harding. 1920. and goes up to richard nixon calling in elvis. and with cameras. he very much wanted cameras there. so that just is part of the presidential tradition. what you're putting your finger on is the judgment that goes into doing it in the face of the horrific storm. with so much suffering in the country. it would have been so much better to postpone kanye west.

for four or five days. have a conversation. if the president can't go to the people suffering, have a serious conversation in the white house about the relationship of storms to climate change. and when we'll do something serious about that. opposed to having this. that is what is i think is so disturbing. yorn anything about his mental condition. what i did pick up was something i hadn't thought about. he kept saying this hat and putting the hat on. made him feel like a man. i kept wondering is that what's going on with some of the men in the country? and the relationship to trump. being for trump make them feel masculine? i don't know the answer. they were sure an over tone of it in the session. >> it's also interesting again there's a tweet for everything. to hear donald trump going after president obama. in the wake of hurricane sandy. with spring steen and jay-z.

it's one thing i guess when you're a citizen. it's easy sto attack the president for that. and when you're president he clearly sees it differently because it's him doing it. >> the hypocrisy knows no bounds in that regard. i want to say i was disturbed by the sort of father figure thing he was talking about. to give him some credit, his intention in going in there stated and some of the things he talked about, were praise worthy. jobs in chicago. that's a good thing. prison reform. he talked about some good stuff. the problem is he was always over the place and wasn't prepared to make the case to the american people. given the opportunity. it was predictable if you brought cameras this might be the out come. i think that we need to have a conversation about why so many men are still over indexing for trump. over women.

we have that conversation. my big heartbreak comes watching everybody pile onto kanye. and go after him in the way they're going after him. when i think we have to take a look at the fact he said himself that he's been diagnosed. by-polar or having sleeping problems. he's not always able to think properly. that should color the way we relate to him. the white house needs to be on trial for this spectacle. i meme are kinder to kanye. he had positive intentions. he didn't carry them out well. >> i don't understand from the white house standpoint and why the president would go through it. he said he was in a quagmire about having the rally. and not -- people had been waiting for a long time. this was one or two people in the oval office it could have been postponed. i have to take a break.

david thank you and van jones. i want to check in with chris. >> important points. made there in the segment. i think people have to look at what happened today. as an example of something. i don't think it's easy pickens to attack kanye. we'll make that case tonight. we're going to be taking a look at the latest on khashoggi. this makes less sense the more we learn about this circumstances under which this man disappeared. and we'll look at the pluses and minuses of the apparent strategy by the white house. on this. we'll be looking alt the after math and keep people connected to what happened. in all the states. because of hurricane michael and the challenges that lie ahead. >> all right. see you in about four minutes. we'll be right back. dna test with its historical records... ...you could learn you're from ireland... ...donegal, ireland... ...and your ancestor was a fisherman. with blue eyes. just like you. begin your journey at ancestry.com.

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i want to quickly go back to our reporters on the ground in mexico beach. helping to recollect people who came through the storm. who are doing okay with loved ones who can't get in touch with them. don't know they're alive or okay. i want to read the names again. people who he has come across. doing fine. and they want loved ones around the country to know. robin red sloth. her family in michigan. dawn vicars. robert brock. his family in florida. david see bert his mom is mobile, alabama.

she evacuated. he stayed. he's regretting it but doing okay. cofield and her 92 year-old mom they made it through. her house and windows are gone. her mother is in a wheelchair. they're okay. they'll get on an ambulance soon. want news continues. with cuomo "prime time." >> a lot still yet to be told. thank you for the coverage. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." the storm is gone. nothing is left in some parts of the panhandle. some cities, towns, total ruin after the hurricane for the history books blasted ashore. how do survivors piece their lives back together? should they do in the same place. we'll talk to a survivor. she lost her home. the school she worked in. her big concern is for her students. she's not losing hope. white house walking a tight rope as lt worlds demands