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say "teach me more" into your voice remote to get started. move on to perhaps a dangerous phase to go through the large debris pile. >> no running water or electricity in panama city, folks are getting desperate. >> this hit to hard and so fast the different aspect of human nature will come out. >> instincts say that there is no question saudi government did this. >> i've never been more disturbed than ever right now. >> there are other things we can do that are very powerful and very strong and we will do them.
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>> announcer: this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. thank you so much for being with us. listen. a grim picture for some of these communities on the florida pan shipping and handling rb hardest hit by hurricane michael. >> in mexico beach, the homes and buildings left partially standing have been searched and no victims found but hundreds of people are still unaccounted for so, today, the dangerous task of sifting through all of this, the piles of rubble and debris. that is going to start. martin savidge is in mexico beach and explain how the search will happen. >> reporter: no other vicks have been found and the city is reporting that the remaining structures still standing have been searched but move on to a potentially and dangerous phase. they have to go through the large debris piles and there are
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many of them throughout this devastated town. and they will carefully and methodically have to search and investigate every single one. authorities are looking off a list of about 300 names, names of people they know were in this community just prior to the storm coming ashore. now after the storm, what they are doing is trying to match up those names with the people that are still here. they actually have a map with almost 300 dots on it and they are carefully checking the list off. the problem is some cases you go to a home and no one is there and you go and there is no home there. in other cases, they have been able to cross people off a list because people saw the mass of the storm or have been able to self-report but still a disturbing number. they won't say how many are unaccounted for, hence, why the search goes on and will do for four more days. martin savidge, mexico beach, florida. this morning, florida's governor rick scott and fema
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administrator brock long will tour the communities most impacted by the storm. president trump is expected to tour the same areas tomorrow. scott mcclain is live in panama city. what we understand this morning, scott, urgent need for food and water. is it true that that desperation has turned into looting? >> reporter: well, whether it's desperation or people just seeing an opportunity, it's not clear. yesterday, they were able to get several stations open where they were handing out food and water because they had told officials had told people initially before this hurricane hit. look. you have to fend for yourself for the first 72 hours. that window has now closed so a lot of people have run out of their own rations and now relying on the state to supply them with meals ready to eat and water as well which are being passed out by the national guard and that is undoubtedly good news. there is kill a curfew in effect
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here. there is pitch dark and not a person in sight and not a light on either. hard to imagine there would be many people here any ways because many of the homes and businesses look like this. a little more than a pile of rubble. you can also see, though, that all of these businesses are open. we think this was a print shop and a bakery as well in this little strip plaza and people can just go in and take what they want. many of the homes in this area look, you know, the same way. so that makes it an attractive area for looters. i spoke to the fire department yesterday. they are concerned about security because of this looting. oftentimes they will go out on their calls with police escorts because they are concerned about the safety. the death toll is expected to rise in this area. that firefighter told me that he would not be surprised if it was double digits in this area alone. there are 240,000 people across the state of florida without power but for the local school
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system, power is honestly the least of their concerns. that is because most of the schools in this district were badly, badly damaged. they will not be able to be used any time soon. for some months and others it could be years. they will have completely tear down the school and rebuild it from scratch. it brings up this question what do you do with all of those students? 26,000 of them in this school district. where are they going to go to school? the district is considering having two sessions of classes in one day in the buildings that did survive this hurricane. the board will be meeting on monday to make a final decision on that. >> scott mcclain, thank you so much for the update. president trump has not taken any steps against saudi arabia and this is over the missing "the washington post" journalist but he plans to call the king very soon.
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>> i didn't want to call until we had enough information. now i want to call. so probably over the next 24 hours. >> jamal khashoggi disappeared more than a week ago and last seen entering the saudi consulate in istanbul. there is the last picture of him known to be killed. >> sarah westwood is live at the house. what is the president saying about other options potentially? >> reporter: victor, the president so far not saying whether he believes that saudis were involved in the disappearance of jamal khashoggi but he wants to present a armed sales to saudi arabia. he says he will punish saudi arabia severely if they are behind what is the murder of khashoggi but he is not saying what the punishments look like. he was specifically asked yesterday, for example,
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sanctioning the crown prince was first on the table. he wants to get the available facts. he says the u.s. is investigating the situation and not specifying how that is. take a listen to what had to say yesterday in the oval office about the arms deal he wants to protect. >> i actually think we would be punishing ourselves if we did that. there are other things we can do that are powerful and strong and we will do that but as of this moment, nobody knows what happens. we are looking into this very seriously and turkey is looking into it at the highest level and so is saudi arabia. they have been getting back and i know mike has been dealing with them and john has been deal with them. but in terms of the order of 110 billion dollars, think of that. $110 billion, all they do is give it to other countries and i think that would be very foolish for our country. >> reporter: now, the president
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is coming under enormous pressure from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to take action against saudi arabia. when the call happens to the crown prince we will know what could of punishments the president has in mind. >> thank you, sarah. julian zeleny is a historian and professor at princeton university and the president says he will call the crown prince within 48 hours. what should that call look look like? i think everyone is expecting him to voice his concerns about what happened and demand some kind of response and many people want some kind of a threat or a suggestion, if nothing is done, this is not tolerable. we don't know if president trump will do that but that is the outstanding question. >> julian zeleny, stay with us. we have a lot more to discuss with you in a couple of minutes. including white house
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cnn has learned that president trump is close now to
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announcing his replacement for outoing white house counselor dunn mcgahn. he is expected to make veteran lawyer in the coming week or loan. siploney has visited his team on the counsel probe. let's bring in jim schultz, cnn legal commentator and former trump lawyer. and julian zeleny is back. right man for the job? >> yeah. i think he would be a tremendous pick. here are the things. he gets along with him and running the investigation inside the white house. gets along with jay. he has tremendous experience in investigations. he is also worked in a republican administration under attorney general barr during the
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george h.w. bush administration. he has all of the qualities for this job. he has the he is skervet and satisfactory a lot of folks that wonder how the judges will be handled going forward. i think he is the right man for the job. it seems the president is very comfortable with him. >> that confidence is paramount when you work with the president. let's break down a couple of elements, julian, starting with you. i want to separate out what could be coming from democrats if they take control of the house and the mueller probe. let's start with this will be, obviously, he needs that relationship that reportedly he does not have with republican members of crucial committees in the house if there are subpoenas coming, the oversight that will be ramped up. the investigations that will happen. is that a disadvantage significantly for this white house if he does not have those in the style that don mcgahn has? >> no, absolutely. he is going to need as much
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prourt from a republican minority if that was the case next year he can get. we have seen hout connections to the gop has been instrumental in his first two years and fountain becomes control the house we can expect some kind of investigations to intensify so that will be important. obviously, we will have to see how he handles the political atmosphere which is different from the last time he was in politics and how he handles president trump but those ties are essential back to the republicans and the house. >> it is reported that they are filling out the paper work to get through this process. he writes he is a true trump believer. a bit of a departure from the president's standpoint because the president does not trust don mcgahn. >> right.
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with respect to the russia investigation, you know, the mueller probe, don mcgahn hasn't had president trump's interest in mind. he had to refer to, obviously, the rudy giuliani and jay. trying to interview president trump is giuliani and seculon who pivoted him to go to the question in written form as opposed to in person. if you're looking at the supreme court with cipollone you can look at ruth bader ginsburg placed by amy coney barrett who is another trump believer and catholic. >> what didn't get attention this week is the questions that the trump legal team are preparing the answers to the questions from the mueller
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investigation. does the cipollone choice from what you know about him make that sit-down the president is willing to have with the investigators more or less likely? >> so i want to go back to the mcgahn issue. say the president doesn't trust mcgahn and flat out laughable given the scope of the issues that he's had to deal with, deregulation, the judges and all of the issues that have come up. whenever there was an issue that the president needed mcgann carried the ball across the finish line on it. moving back to your question about the written questions. i don't think it impacts the strategy at all. he has been advising president all along as outside informal adviser it appears and again is close with emmitt flood. i don't think there will be much change in strategy as it relates to those questions because of the new incoming white house counsel. >> do you think it gets to a sit-down one-on-one or with investigators with the president? >> i don't know. that is tough to say.
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it looks like they have been negotiating this very -- very well the whole time, so there are written questions now. i think it depends on what the written questions, what the answers are to those written questions whether the justice department and mueller investigation will ask for more information by way of oral testimony or written testimony for that matter. >> let's stay on the mueller probe a second here, siran. we are 23 days out from the midterm. even anecdotally do you know or do you have evidence that where on the spectrum the existence of the investigation falls for voters now? certainly maybe not as much as it did three to six months ago, but where after the kavanaugh fight and that being the front of mind for a lot of people, the russia investigation is when they go to the polls? >> the question and answer part of the investigation with the president trump is probably a good signal it's the beginning of the end. of course, with the midterm
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election being very much contested and the democrats having a pretty good chance of winning the house and not sure about the senate, but with respect to the status of attorney general jeff sessions staying at the justice department is big because it might determine, obviously, the outcome of the mueller probe. and if you remove, obviously, you know, sessions and possibly deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, bigger questions will probably surmount and find that robert mueller's investigation will be coming off to a close. i will just say one thing. the question and answer part and the written questions going to president trump, that's really a sign that the white house says the upper hand in this. the fact that mueller cannot get in front of the president is probably the biggest sdang he has right now. >> they still agree from cnn's reporting if there are follow-up questions that mueller can come back again and those are in
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writing but no final decision according to the d.c. reporting whether or not there will be that sit-down interview with investigators and the president. julian, i want to come back on one other thing that happened this week. pastor andrew brunchen was back in the oval office yesterday. you have a piece up on cnn.com that details the political value of now of the pastor's release but the high profile prisoner and hostage releases happen during the administration. why is this not playable and how does this play into what you call is the philosophy of this administration? >> they are very valuable in the accomplishment its. freeing hostages is tremendously important in bringing them back home but there are also dramatic forms of historic policy historically. and they resonate often in a way that other kind of diplomatic initiatives don't.
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they are, in some ways, made for television, they are made for the media to consume, and so they fit in the kind of politics that president trump is very connected to, which are theatrical, which are meant to be seen. this doesn't diminish the actual accomplishment but they are different than big diplomatic agreements which are usually more complex and dry. so i think these are actually an essential part of what he has tried to achieve. >> all right. jim schultz, siraj hasmi and julian zeleny, thank you all. >> thank you. marco rubio and berntter tr sanders and stacey abrams will be with jake tapper on "state of the union" this morning at 9:00 a.m.
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maybe especially so because this man was a reporter. you'll be surprised to hear me say that there is something terribly and disgusting about that fnts tif that is the case. we will get to the bottom of it and there will be severe punishment. >> international correspondent for cnn is in riyadh right my. and ni and nic robertson is also live with us. what is the official response from the saudis this morning, sam? >> it is the same response that they have all the way through and that is that mr. khashoggi left the consulate istanbul safe and sound and as baffled about his disappearance as anybody else. the interior minister put out a statement yesterday through the
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state news agency saying the allegations to the country or any allegations to the country were baseless lies and part of a disinformation campaign and that is something that is being echoed here in the local media. this all comes at a very difficult time for saudi arabia. we are about a week and a day away from the future investment initiative. a massive conference that was supposed to be a gathering in the desert and bringing in people and intellectuals and ceos from around the world and ministers from all around the world and those are rapidly cancelling and even the secretary of state mike pompeo is saying that the americans are still not fully committed to whether or not they would go. this is what he said just recently. >> i think we need to continue to evaluate the facts and we will make that decision. i talked with the secretary about it last night and we will take a look at it through the rest of the week.
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>> reporter: now what they will be taking look at as president trump has intimated the proof that the turks say they have what happened to the "the washington post" columnist inside of that consulate. because the saudis have taken a firm line and left them no real wiggle room. speaking privately people there is the saudi government does not know how to get out of this impasse. that is assuming, and no evidence, that mr. khashoggi met with a violent end or was somehow abducted. >> nic is in istanbul. his wife has write an op-ed in "the new york times" calling her
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husband a lonely i don't thipat. tell us more about what she said. >> she was on the verge of becoming khashoggi's wife, his fiancee. she raised the alarm and she was outside the consulate and she was the person who said he went in and didn't come out. she is such a huge linchpin in the chain of evidence here and it is emotional and moving. i was particularly struck by what she said the frame of mind khashoggi had when he went into the consulate. he wasn't particularly troubled, she said. he was actually quite cheerful that morning because they were moving towards their marriage expected later in the week. but that was billed partly on the fact he had been to the consulate the friday before and told to come back on tuesday at 1:00 p.m. which is what he was doing and she is i want mating that the saudis knew he was coming at that time and this
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plays into the information that the turkish authorities put out that 15 saudis arrived in around that time just before. again, it adds to that picture. i think when we look at the pressure that is mounting from turkish official and turkish foreign minister in london have said that absolutely saudi arabia must, this is very strong language they are using, must allow turkish chief prosecutor and expert investigators into the consulate there and for expert read forensic. we are now hearing that pressure sort of having a ripple effect in the uk as well about the davos in the desert and fox wouldn't expected to go but now his office is saying his diary for that week is not quite cheer. britain has massive trade deals, particularly arms deals, can saudi arabia. this would be a natural that weeks, even months ago, that invitation to the summit would arrive and automatically collect the accept.
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now what we are hearing from his office is sounding more like decline with comments maybe. so this really seems to be a shift in tone coming from the british as well. victor? >> nic, let me ask you this. turkey says they have proof that khashoggi is dead. if they have that proof, why don't they release it, even if not publicly, but other governments to confirm? >> reporter: what we understand that they have shared with other agencies they briefed other agencies on this evidence that they have and that this briefing has been convincing in that it is -- in that it shows the brutal attack, the struggle, the interrogation and the killing of khashoggi. it doesn't mean the agencies are the former agencies physically have custody of whatever material that is or a copy thereof. so the question that you're right asking why doesn't turkey
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just hand it over? what we understand turkey's government is this. they still want to have a relationship with saudi arabia going forward and they understand the way things work in this region and if you throw it all in saudi arabia's face and sort of strategically looking forward here because this situation will get resolved one way or another. they would like it to get resolved where they continue to have a good relationship with saudi arabia, irrespective of who the leader is so that the indication here is that perhaps they think that momted bin sham salman may not be around forever and they want to maintain that good relationship. behind the scenes, they have this working group, they are trying to work out how to get this investigation done and how to get into the consulate. they must get access so they don't want to blow this up yet. a government official said making that material public
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would be the nuclear option and that is not how they want that diplomacy to go. they have bigger goals here. >> thank you, nic robertson. >> a group of americans suing ha harvard. hear what what they are saying about trial going to suit this week and why they want it to go to supreme court.
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the government claims harvard has failed to prove it does not unlawfully discriminate against asian americans. in a statement of interest attorney general jeff sessions writes this, quote. harvard has denied all of the allegations. trial is set to begin tomorrow in boston. shaun, i know this case has widely been seen a referendum on affirmative action. >> both sides are putting that at the forefront of the focus. the case is not about race or race consciousness. it's about racism. so the question is not who harvard has to completely ignore race, it's about whether the way
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that they have used race in assessing asian american applicants is, in fact, racist. i think the most troubling part of the information that harvard fought very hard to keep private is this information that their own internal investigation previously had found that there was a concern about discrimination against asian americans, in particular, with this category that they use called the person or personality category. in that category, statistically, overlooking at some 160,000 applicant files, they consistently have scored asian american applicants lower for a characteristics like like ability, courage, integrity, and that is very, very troubling, because that really goes to the heart of one definition of racism which is when you imply personality characteristics or behavior characteristics to a person's physical appearance and goes to the heart of a racist belief.
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>> if this goes to the supreme court, now that judge cakavanau is a justice, how do you see this going? >> that is a very interesting question. clearly a bigger part of the movement that mr. sessions would like to have and judge roberts has also come out in favor of completely eliminating any racial consciousness in looking at admissions, that push is going to be towards and actually racially blind typed of policy. it could be joined at the supreme court at a broader scope beyond the particular question whether harvard in this case is discriminating against asian americans. >> let's look at the bigger picture here too. what is the potential that this suit could affect other universities moving forward? >> it's very large potential. many -- i think of the other ivy league universities have weighed in with the race and it's certainly at the supreme court level could highly impact
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admissions policies in general. of course, they vary a lot from school-to-school and is kind of the secret sauce of how you admit students but if the supreme court were to come down with a much more restrictive or broader stroke saying you really cannot use race at all, that is going to put the schools in a very difficult position on how you really implement that legally. >> shan wu, appreciate your insight. thank you for being here. >> thank you. health officials say a paralyzing illness similar to polio appears to be on the rise. we will tell you how you can protect your family. ♪ all the tools you need for every step of the way. make it, squarespace
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the cdc has confirmed 38 case of really scary polio-like illness across country.
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it affects a person's nervous system, particularly the spinal cord. >> it affects primary children will you a lot of questions about the long-term prognosis here. senior medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has more. >> where does it hurt? >> i can't tell you. >> reporter: this is lydia four years ago. play close attention to her lafayette she is really not moving. she is in the throes of afc. sudden onset weakness. sometimes the face, the eye lids but more typically the leg and
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the arm. this doctor has cared with dozen of patients with afm and mostly children. the culprit is typical a pathogen. >> over the last four years it seems to be every other year partner. >> reporter: in 2014 when lydia was diagnosed 120 people were afflicted nationwide and their stories, frighteningly similar. >> we have this beautiful august day and she started coughing before we went to the pool. we got in the car and she started whining and i knew she had a fever. after that point in time it was like our whole life changed. >> a lot of the i ask why me but then a lot of times i'm lying at least it wasn't in, like, my legs or my right hand because that -- i'm right-handed. so that would be a lot worse. >> reporter: if any of this sounds familiar, it's because you may remember images like this in the early 1950s.
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polio caused more than 15,000 cases of paralysis every year in the united states. that is until a vaccine came along in 1955. no cases of polio have originated in the united states now in nearly 40 years. let me show you what afm looks like on a x-ray scan. that brightness is inflammation in the spinal cord and nerves that control the articles. here is the point important. it's likely not the virus itself causing the paralysis but the immune's response to the virus and sort of a hit and run reaction. >> reporter: why some children never recover from afm will you lydia has used the fast four years. >> we count our blessing for her to do the things she loves to do. she is really a normal kid. >> i want to emphasize what you saw there is rare. it's an important point. we are not trying to frighten people. the best way to think about your
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own safety with flu season around the corner, do the same things you would do tho for that. cover your mouth when you cough and sneeze in your elbow and wash your hands, wash your hands. it really does seem to work. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you very much. technology is playing a new role in the mental health crisis and young people in particular are seeing actual affects of screen addiction. >> the latest show lisa lin meets with people who are having tech companies take responsibility. here is your look. >> reporter: i'm at neuroscape, a lab in silicon valley that specializing the effects of technology on the brain. >> i'll measure your physiology while you do 9 test. >> reporter: a.j. is a researcher here and wiring me up with sensors that can detect micro changes in my skin. a pressure of stress. >> your job is to pay attention
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we have the official photos of princess eugenie. photos include traditional family portraits like this fitting for the granddaughter of a queen, of course. >> prince phillip and the queen were there for the family and here are the pictures.
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the photos were taken after the ceremony in the saij georget. g chapel and the same place that others have been married. let's start over. >> just go on. i'm sorry. >> alec baldwin is back at "saturday night live," of course, as president trump and he brought rapper kanye west with him. it's a rendition of khan wanye . some say the rapper used the entire visit to ramble on about everything and nothing at all! take a look.
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>> first, let me begin with the idea that time is a myth. if it amounts to the universe and i'm a prisoner in a different dementia. have i lost anyone so far? >> he doesn't stop! he doesn't listen to anyone but himself! who does he remind me of? >> i don't want to brag, bro. i don't want to brag! i have a high i.q. and i'm a stable genius. i got a big brain! and i got the best words. >> oh, my god! he is a black me! goes to christmas black. quick. look at jim brown instead. >> oh, my lord! what have i gotten myself into? i played football with a leather helmet and my brain is still working better than his! move on to perhaps a

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