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very quickly, you recall william cohen, republican senator served under bill clinton. chuck hagel also a republican senator served under president obama. erica? >> always good to talk with you. thank you. >> sure. >> thanks for being with us. inside politics with john king starts right now. thank you, erica and welcome to inside politics. i'm john king. president trump is in florida this hour, landing a short time ago and now on a held kopture tour to assess the clean up and clean up required because of the punch to the panhandle. the secretary of state making a trip to saudi arabia. the president said he wants the facts yet also suggests maybe rogue actors, not the saudi government kidnapped and killed jamal khashoggi.
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>> elizabeth warren shows native american ancestry and demands the president pay a bet. >> who cares. >> you said you would pay one million to charity. i hope she is running for president. i think she would be very easy. >> back to politics. two big stories happening. president trump and the first lady as we noted arriving in florida to get a close up look at the damage from hurricane michael. they will be in georgia later this afternoon. the president making major news as he left the white house. secretary of state mike pompeo will meet with saudi's king solomon. pompeo boarded the plane for the hastily arranged trip that the saudis are responsible for the disappearance of the journalist, jamal khashoggi. the president said he spoke with the king and the king firmly denied any involvement. >> the king firmly denied any
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knowledge of it. he didn't really know. maybe -- i don't want to get into his mind, but it sounded to me like maybe these could have been rogue killers. who knows. we are going to try getting to the bottom of it very soon. his was a flat denial. >> meanwhile, a turkish diplomatic source said a forensic team has permission to search the consulate where he was last seen. live outside of the consulate. fast moving developments. the president throwing out the possibility of rogue killers. you are reporting on the scene about finally perhaps a turkish team getting inside. >> reporter: it was a week ago when the saudis first said the turks can get inside and said it had to be at that level. turkish authorities believe they know which areas in that
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consulate behind me they want to get into. minutes after it was announced that the saudis were going to let them actually get in the building, quite amazingly a group of cleaners at the door here, the front door behind me being allowed into the building. they had mops and buckets and cleaning ralgs. that came literally minutes after it was announced that the investigators would get access in the last couple of hours. we have seen a saudi delegation in the building. we are waiting for the turkish investigators. police are right here in the last half hour and moved us all back and put up a new security cordon around here. we are expecting them to go through that door over there in the coming minutes. however, i would temper that with saying again, we heard this before. they were going to get in and it hasn't happened. this should for the turkish authorities give them the information that backs up their
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long running claims that jamal khashoggi was murdered shortly after going in there almost two weeks ago. >> nick robertson on the scene. perhaps an important day. we will keep in touch with them from istanbul. katherine lucy with the associated press. admiral john kirby and manu raju and i want to start with you. who knows what they are there for, but the video of a cleaning crew showing up within an hour or so of the forensic team showing up. what is that about? then the president, the president, is it responsible for the president to mimic what he was told on the call? could be rogue actors or putin or china or a 300 pound guy on his bed in his basement. for the president of the united states to say that. >> totally inappropriate. the cleaning crew, who knows what they could be there for. it could be the weekly cleaning
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crew. they had plenty of time to do away with any evidence or clean up a crime scene. it's bad optics. on the president, i don't think this is a smart move. he's the first person in authority that i can remember who confirmed the death of jamal khashoggi. this is the first time i heard anyone say he is dead and what you can see in his comments are the beginnings of a narrative through this. they are working with the saudis and the turks on the idea that it was an interview gone a wry or a detention gone a wry and it was an accidental death. they are going to stitch their way through this. >> if you carry that through, the saudis saying we sent in this team and we are trying to interview him and one or two people got out of hand. we will take care of that. let's move o. the president has been reluctant and said we can't cutoff arms sales, but if you read the president's body language, he doesn't care about
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human rights and he tries to wash his hands quickly. is the white house complicit in this? >> you heard from the president that it's a lot of concern about halting this proposed arm sale and he has been careful about criticism and he is publicly repeating the statements from the saudis. we should remember, too, this is a relationship he is invested in. his first foreign trip and fanfare, his son-in-law built relationships there. we are seeing him and he is clearly trying to approach this with caution. we are not seeing him pull away from this relationship. >> let's be clear, this is a regime that for decades and in the case of this crown prince who runs the show has an authoritarian structure. police forces and they use the idea that there could be rogue actors within a saudi consulate that is heavily guarded for a team that came in. forgive me, but i'm sorry. >> that's the point.
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people who had seen the classified intelligence, republicans and democratic members of congress came away with the conclusion that the saudis were behind what appears to be a murder of jamal khashoggi. it is clear to them. the president today making it clear he does not are inially believe that. he believes the strong denials from the saudis and made the point repeatedly, calling jamal khashoggi a saudi citizen. he is, but he is also a resident of the united statesful applied phi permanent residency in the united states. seemed to distance the united states from this episode. this is not the first time he takes denies at face value. he has done it repeatedly. >> i want to get to the history of this. this is not the first time in a minute, but the secretary of state is on his way. we know at times, make pompeo is more hawkish than the president. more of a stand up for american values on the world stage than
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donald trump has been as president. there is that and we need to see how he comes out and then there is this. democrats and republicans say mr. president, you better get tough or we will force you to get tough. >> i believe the trump administration will do something. the president said that. if he doesn't, congress will. that i can tell you. >> we're shouldn't negotiate is it arm sales. >> if that's the basic standard and if they get tough, they back off. that doesn't sound like mr. trump. it shouldn't sound like america. >> we should have sanctions ready to go for this. we have to be able to find out and at this point not assume he has been murdered. >> it is rare, especially three weeks before an election, but rare any time to have democrats and republicans unified on capitol hill. especially some that have seen the intelligence that the president will push you there. >> i don't think the saudis expected this event to turn into
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a serious international issue, which it has. the key thing to watch within the trump administration is whether cleavage develops between the president and his advisers. the president is responding on this precisely as he did to questions of whether the russians hacked the elections. he takes vladimir putin's strong denials and that was treat and pretty noteworthy that his administration has been tough on russia. it will be interesting to see whether his administration treats saudi arabia the same way regardless of what the president himself says, which is not to say that the president's parodying of the denials don't matter. they do. it will be interesting to see if his administration responds strongly despite what he says. >> i want to get to the context. you see the president gets off the phone with the saudi king. he said it could be rogue killers. he used the word killers as if he received confirmation that we
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are not going to get surprised. this is a sad plot we thought it was. number two, we will see what the secretary of state says. you talked about election interference and how long it took to get him to a place where he said russia did it, i have seen the evidence. they asked him about the russian use of nerve agents, poisonings, assassinations. >> do you agree that vladimir putin is involved in assassinations, in poisonings -- >> probably he is. probably. >> probably? >> i rely on them. it's not in our country. >> why not they shouldn't do it. >> of course they shouldn't do it. >> i rely on them. it's not in our country. of course they couldn't do it, but he shrugs. like it's not a big deal. >> of course he assassinates. who wouldn't. >> that's the scary part. is it admiring the strong men because they have this ability? >> i don't know if it's admiring, but he admires strong
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men with dictatorial tendencies and the ability to control their governments in ways he can't control this one. it goes back to the un speech where he talked about the nationalistic sovereignty. that's kind of the theme here. >> he is not ronald reagan and somebody who said we are a shining city on a hill and views american alliances and american democratic valleys as a tool in the arsenal with which to beat other countries over the head. >> that's in our national interest. >> exactly. >> the ability to mock overseas. >> hoary sees individual relationship as significant. they talked about putin and kim jong un. he sort of separates out his one on ones and encounters with the leaders from the u.s. >> and yet put it to an objective test. what has his done on the test.
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european heritage she likely had a native american ancestor. distant, but decisive. is it enough to end the mocking before 2020? >> some people questioned my heritage and family history. maybe they do it to insult me or distract for the changes i'm fighting for and the kind of change i'm trying to bring to washington. the family they built, the story they lived will always be etched on my heart. and no one, not even the president of the united states, will ever take it away from me. >> jonathan martin from the "new york times" joins our conversation. she is running for reelection in massachusetts. she is clearly not worried about that one iota and doing some 2020 business here. this is from david axelrod. extraordinary video to surface
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before you enter the race. she is 100% running. she thinks this pocahontas crap is a potential problem. the risk of something that elevates it. i agree with all of that. >> the assumption here is you can't pretend like these attacks don't matter. there is no such thing as being high minded in politics anymore. i think that the sort of instructive lesson for democrats on that front was with john kerry in 2004. they learned a lesson after that. look at president obama. he never took the birther attack seriously. he still released his birth certificate. the lesson is that people in this day and age of a fractured media with intense polarization, people are willing to believe charges, no matter how silly on the face they sound. if you are warren, you don't have a choice to say this preposterous president of the united states is giving me a
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cartoon nickname. you can't afford to do that in this environment. you have to aggressively and preemptively push back. >> you can't afford to do it in a democratic primary. not just because they would lose the pocahontas line against her, but it's about electability. can you survive this vicious battle with president trump? she has something to push back on. republicans are not going to accept this. they said it doesn't prove she is an indian, but nevertheless has he something to point to. that's the real question. >> i think you are right about the primaries, but i wouldn't be so sure. al gore was the one to mention it long before the republicans put it on question. the question is the timing. here's another member of the obama team part of the campaigns in the obama administration saying okay, i would agree with you 1,000% about the times, but why now? argue the substance, but why 22
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days before an election where we must win the seats to save america. why now? why can't dems ever stay focused. fair question. >> dems in disarray! >> she obviously wants to get out in front of this and i think everyone believes that 2020 begins the day after election. >> why not in 2012. maybe she couldn't handle it when she was a senate candidate for the first time. these questions linger and instead of that campaign, she ran away from it. should you address all these questions sooner? she said i was a first time candidate. >> we are in a moment where you see a lot of 2020 prospects talk about who is someone who can take the fight to trump. who is aggressive enough? >> should they talk about that november 7th? >> this gives her an idea to show she is not backing down. >> she is taking the fight to trump in the same sort of
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credulous way that hillary clinton took the fight to trump. i question how effective that will be. her response to his mockery is to say well, actually, i have a native american ancestor between six and 10 generations back. i'm not sure how effective that will be. it won't be effective with trump or primary voters. the question is not whether she had any native american ancestry, but whether that ancestry is enough to claim she was. >> she did in the boston globe story, she provided the dna test to them first. in that story, they do note during her academic career it changed from white to native american. she taught from 1997 to 1995. the globe is saying there was no evidence she benefitted, but she
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put that in her profile. >> trump is going to have a field day with this. i question the future effectiveness of this. >> the folks on the right and left to say why did you do that, she makes a good point. this is not going to stop trump from wailing away on this front. i think in warren's mind, she had no choice but to do the dna test. if you didn't do it, that would be the issue. then why don't you do a test? why don't you offer that? >> she will be either way. >> the president is not going to pay that debt. he did make that debt, but he won't pay it. he does relish the confrontation. >> i hope she is running for president. i think she would be very easy. i do not think she would be difficult at all. she will make the country into
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venezuela. i don't want to say bad things because i hope she would be one of the people that would get through the process. it will be a long process for the democrats. >> i don't want to say bad things about her. >> i can't wait for the 2020 democratic field. >> he wants to move on. there is an election three weeks from tomorrow. 22 days to go. we will look at each party's biggest wins and worries as they battle. there is an election this year in control of congress. i'm captain obvious and hotels.com rewards me basically everywhere. so why am i sliding into this ski lodge with my mini horse? because hotels.com lets me do me. sorry, the cold makes him a little horse. hotels.com. you do you and get rewarded. every road in the world is now an information superhighway. and the car has become an accessory to the smartphone. ride hailing, car sharing carpooling... mobility services are proliferating.
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welcome back. 22 days until election day. it will be a mid-term referendum on the trump presidency. the headline numbers are favorable to the democrats, but there are some for the republicans. let's walk through the numbers. democrats head into the final weeks with a big edge. in the abc poll, 53% of americans say they will vote democrat for their local race. 42% republican. if that holds up, democrats are most likely to take back the house and keeps them in play with the senate. if you are the republicans, you are plus seven. a seven-point advantage on the economy. can they say the races.
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what are they worried about? republicans are getting crushed in the city and losing in the suburbs where the president is toxic and winning by nine points in rural areas. can the republicans put together a coalition. when you are hurting in the suburbs, that's a worry for the republicans. democrats are winning independent voters. they like that. 52% to 38%. they like that margin to be bigger. mid-terms tend to break when independents go one way. do they have the intensity in are you a certain voter in 76% say yes. independent voters are down. white voters are down. younger voters are the key and are down here. if you are the democrats, you have to turn out african americans and latinos. listen here. my colleague had this conversation with independent voter who is voted for trump.
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they turned sour on him. they need more people like this and they need them to vote. >> the divisiveness in this country right now and the rhetoric coming from the president is a daily exhausting thing. >> he's not very focused. he's not very sincere to whatever he decides to do. things change fast. a good example is with putin and russia. >> as a lifelong republican, i would consider myself part of the religious right and now the values that i see coming from the white house just don't mesh up with what i believe. >> joining our conversation in the studio to share their insights, the host of the pollsters podcast. let me start with the republican first. you have the most to lose, if you will, in the election. weeks. what is your biggest worry? >> my biggest worry is the
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unknown unknowns. something like the president deciding to shift the focus to an issue that is not as productive to something like the economy. weeks is still a long time. if thank you are looking at the ballot numbers you showed, being down by double-digits in the last five major polls and three had the generic ballot in plus territory for democrats makes the house look like a scarier place and the candidates need to demonstrate -- i support the president and agree with him, but i am a unique individual. that will be key to winning. >> what's your biggest worry. >> democrats worry about the senate and a lot of red states and democrats in the senate and how they may or may not be changing in the home stretch. turn out and you are asking a lot of district places and people who voted republican in the past. they voted for trump and mitt romney, asking them to change their mind or asking people who
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don't vote in mid-terms to vote in the mid-terms for the first time or first time in a while. that can be heavy for some folks. >> suburban republicans need to somehow be i'm a republican and i will be with the president, but not when it's better for the district or when i think he's wrong. can you sell that argument? look how closely things track. 43% approve and 53% disapprove. 53% democrat, 42% republican. the vote for democrats in the congressional ballot is the president's disapproval rate. you can break from him or are you stuck with him? >> the candidates are ones who have been laying that ground work for a while. you can't just turn that on in three weeks or etch a sketch to use an example. you have candidates saying let's take a will herd. he's a republican member of congress and a district that is not a favorable district to
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republicans and in a lot of the polling, he is doing quite well. he is someone that has been critical of the approach on many pieces. that ground work that has been laid well before the last month is allowing him to be different. >> it has a local relationship with the latino community as well and doesn't suffer for the president's numbers. let's just show. the president is all over the place. he's on television. tunes in to fox news and 60 minutes. he is doing a stop today in florida and georgia. there were big races in those states, too. he doesn't want to take the blame for it, but he is going to other places. democrats ran from president obama. they ran from him. didn't want to talk about obamacare and thought he was toxic in their races. a lot of them say the president is helping. there are some who say a couple of months ago we were worried about the president being
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everywhere. now maybe this helps. >> maybe. you have, i think, the challenge for a lot of republicans is looking authentic when we know that some of them are trying to embrace the president sometimes and also say they are critical of his tweets, but like his policies. at least maybe for some republicans, they are authentic if they are there at a campaign stop, but you see people who say well, i didn't invite the president to come here. he just showed up. we have seen that. i don't think that everybody is as equally excited when the president comes to town. >> pick a race as we close that you think will tell us a lot about what happened come election day? >> i'm looking at the florida senate race. two candidates are well liked by the people. this is not a case where people hate the choices on offer to them, yet it's a state that broke narrowly for trump. a closely contested race.
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that's the one i'm watching. >> competitive state. >> in georgia there is a house race. the georgia six was big. it was a big special. the same republican and a different candidate. she had a tragic personal story. h her son was a victim of gun violence and there has been a lot of attention on this district before. what does that tell you about the big board? >> if you live somewhere else, those are two good ones right there. the president and the first lady looking at the hurricane devastation along the gulf coast. things are ahead of you when you start with healthy. and part of staying healthy means choosing the right medicare plan. humana can help. with original medicare, you're covered for hospital stays and doctor office visits when you're sick. but keep in mind you'll have to pay a deductible for each. a medicare supplement plan can
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topping our radar, a shake-up at the national security. leaving his post to return to his previous job. the group has been accused of promoting anti-muslim views. they joined the administration a few months ago and saying the flight was a valuable member of the counsel and he wishes him well. the president and the first lady arrived in florida about an hour ago and after brief remarks for an ariel tour of some of the hardest hit areas. the storm killed at least 18 people and many are unaccounted for. more than 230,000 are without power. in some places people are relying on air drops to survive. is out doing his part to try to
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prevent a blue wave in the mid-terms. he is fund-raising for mike braun and retiring speaker paul ryan will be helping to boost republicans including scott taylor of virginia. for ryan, a blitz that has him in 12 states for various candidates including members of the house freedom caucus. matt bev in of kentucky proving how tough and effective he has been since taking office armed with weapons, he goes to a gun range and proceeds to obliterate what he calls every government score in his sights. >> up next for us, i'm president and not. president trump goes full trump
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washington, d.c. is a vicious, vicious place. the attacks and the bad mouthing. the speaking behind your back. my way, i feel very comfortable here. this is like making a deal with th that. if i pledge to you, i'm president and not. >> there you go. a few moments from the wide ranging interesting interview on cbs with leslie staal. he touched on every topic in the news including his relationships with new york and members of his own cabinet. here's how the counsellor put it on fox.
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>> it did showcase the way in which trump is a fully transparent president. what he says to the press is similar to what he says behind the scenes in the white house. in that sense, you always know what the president is thinking. his internal monologue to the extent you can get a full read on somebody without concrete views on a lot of things. >> it always raises the question of why doesn't the president do more of this. he favored interviewers to uk do
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it. if the white house believes he did so well and for the white house staff to explain the thinking and contradictions and missed statements. let him respond and explain why. >> i think he will do that more often and more confident. he likes it and this is the whole game for him. he wants to be on and watch himself on tv. he wants the coverage of himself. nevertheless, this is the idea for him is to be all media figure all the time. >> that's the media blitz. >> he is calling people from the plane. he's everywhere. >> i have long wished we had a law that required all presidents.
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he wears it on his sleeve. whatever he is thinking. it's not tweeted. >> if you are on team trump and maybe you are not sure what the president thinks of you, maybe you are the defense secretary and you learn this. >> is it true general mattis said to you, the reason for nato and all these alliances is to prevent world war 3. >> it's not true. frankly, i like general mattis. i know more about it than he does. >> is he going to leave? >> i don't know. he hasn't told me about it. it could be that he is. he is sort of a democrat, if you want to know the truth. >> number one, he doesn't know more than general mattis about these things. he is a decorated military
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veteran. that tells you there is tension there and he plans to leave. >> he was rebutting. he wasn't even rebutting the substance of the question. he was just trying to prove himself against mattis. you invoked mattis against me. you had a tweet about mattis. >> the phone call has taken to him behind the scenes. and tapes in the oval office, you are saying things like i think he's a democrat and we got it on 60 minutes. he was trying to broadcast and that people think he was trying to signal i can live without him. he's a democrat and that will be fine. >> a place where some advisers
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said was the full trump. this one particularly in the climate where you have the gender gap. especially in hurricane maria suburbs, revisiting the kavanaugh confirmation and when the period decided after a long period of time, to directly attack and question the credibility of professor blasey ford in public, he said too bad, we win. >> you mimicked professor blasey ford. you mimicked her? >> had i not made that speech, we would not have won. she didn't seem to know anything. i think she was treated with great respect. >> do you think you treated her with dignity? do you think you treated her with great respect? >> i think so, yeah. >> you seem to be saying she lied. >> i'm not going to get into it because we won. it doesn't matter. >> that's harsh. >> that's harsh. no, his speech had nothing to do with getting confirmed.
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it did not sway any votes. it was more kavanaugh's testimony and his denial. it also underscores the president's head. >> that could have built momentum outside. and build enthusiasm among republicans. >> now it's not are inially getting susan collins. >> the moment was the kavanaugh testimony and lindsey graham's performance, shall we say, at the hearing. combined with the scrutiny of kavanaugh and the stories that i think folks on the right found to be far-fetched or unfair. that was well before the president went to south haven. >> he loves confrontation and saying i'm right. he loves saying i got this to the finish line and he could have said justice kavanaugh is on the court. he chooses this.
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she said she has no regrets of how she handled the affair with monica lewinsky. this will disappoint many in the me too era. >> in retrospect, do you think bill should have resigned in the wake of the monica lewinsky scandal? >> absolutely not. >> it wasn't an abuse of power? >> no, no. >> there are people who look at the incident and say a president of the united states cannot have a consensual relationship with an intern. the power imbalance is too great. >> he was an adult. where is the investigation of the current incumbent? >> the what about-ism. this is why democrats roll their eyes when they see this in october. why is she doing interviews at this moment of the campaign? we talked earlier about warren taking this preemptive step. a similar critique of why with
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weeks out, would you do these tv interviews. bill clinton was the most hot on the campaign trail. bill clinton stumbled over questions and hillary clinton today, it's difficult issues for them. they don't have good answers. you think they have good answers prepared. >> they haven't figured out how to answer it and it limits the ability to be we didn't handle everything perfectly? >> instead of digging in and defiantly purchasing back? >> there is a better answer than reiterating why you lost the campaign. >> that's a good way to put it.
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why three weeks before a consequential giant election critical to the rebuilding of the democratic party. >> you are a central figure. she is on the air in a lot of senate races. >> that's part of the two. thanks for joining us inside politics. wolf starts right now. have a great day. hello, i'm wolf blitzer and it's 1:00 here in washington. thank you very much for joininguts. we start with president trump in florida learning more about the devastation from hurricane michael. the death toll now stands at 18. some remote areas are cutoff. they are getting aid dropped in by air. others are waiting in lines for water and food. the worst of the damage is in mexico beach, florida. there are still at least 30 people missing. after homes and businesses were smashed and swept away during the storm. let's go to the chief
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