cabinet meeting in a little while and we're going to ask every secretary to cut 5% for next year. last year, first year, i had to do something with the military, the military was falling apart, it was depleted, it was in very bad shape. so that's why we went for two years, 716 billi$716 billion, t place over a period of two years. we have purchased and repurchased jets, missiles, rockets all forms of military equipment. ships, submarines. we have rebuilt and are in the process of rebuilding our military to a level that's never been before. i had to do that. in order to get the 700 and the 716 billi$716 billion, those nue never been heard of before. i had to give the democrats, i call it waste money. things that i never would have approved but we had to do that in order to get the votes because we don't have enough republican votes to do this

without them. when you look at the border how bad it is, that's because the democrats want it to be bad, because they don't give us the votes. that's why i hope we do well in the midterms. but we're going to be asking for a 5% cut from every cabinet member today. i just want to talk to these great folks and wish them best wishes, they have done a fantastic job and we really appreciate it. thank you, great job. thank you very much. we'll see you in a couple of minutes. >> welcome insideistening to the president of the united states in the oval office, he's moving now to a cabinet meeting. the president says because of the deficit, he's going to ask federal agencies to cut 5% spending next year. but the more important news, the president talking yet again about his secretary of state's trip to saudi arabia and to turkey to try to get informatio saudi journalist, it the turkish

consulate in istanbul. he says he needs to talk to secretary pompeo when he comes back. the president several times saying if it exists. casting skepticism on what the turkish government says it has. it says it has audio and video of the journalist willing detained and questioned and murdered. the knock on the president from key members of congress is that he keeps trying to minimize this and keeps stressing the value of the relationship over let's really find out what happened here. any shift there or again, he keeps talking about the arms purchases. he keeps talking about how important an ally is, he keeps putting the emphasis on his personal relationship, on dollars and cents, the president

grossly inflates the facts, the potential arms race versus potential values. >> there's no sense of him banging his hand on the desk, no sense of him calling out, you know, what is is pretty obvious in most corners of washington and indeed around the world. a, a sense of urgency, we have not heard it from the president at all, but also, we haven't heard of any sense of tough love or skepticism in any of this. the secretary of state is now coming back to the u.s., he's going to brief the president tomorrow likely in the oval office. so we'll see this, but the reality here is that the president is giving them a cover and what are our allies wondering i think around the world. he's been very harsh on many of the loyal u.s. allies. why isn't he even slightly louder or harsher here? >> and one clear signal of that is as we sat down to get ready

for the hour, there's a story in the "new york times," where they say turkish officials shared with them the transcripts of what the turkish government says is an audio recording. the suspicion is that they have the saudi consulate bugged. what do we know, the cia, the president wouldn't even say if the fbi has been sent there. the president must by now have his own intelligence assessment. and that's what members of congress are saying after they have been briefed they have no doubt that the saudis are responsible for this, that he was detained and murdered and dismembered. >> we did an interview with the president yesterday in the oval office and we talked about this, and he's repeating the denials he's heard from saudi leaders. he also made a new and sort of remarkable comparison comparing

the situation here, describing it as a rush to judgment, and comparing it to the confirmation process with brett kavanagh. >> let me read from the quote. catherine part of an av team that met with the president in the oval office yesterday. he said i think we need to find out what happened here, you're guilty until proven innocent, i don't like that with justice kavanagh, and he was innocent all the way, so i was unconcerned. >> all right. he's clearly giving the saudis the benefit of the doubt here, but congress, lawmakers, republicans in particular, they're not holding their fire on this. speaker ryan was talking about it this morning on cbs, he said that the reports are disturbing and disgusting and he mentioned again that congress can take their own actions and put sanctions on saudi arabia and wouldn't hesitate to do so if this evidence comes through from turkey. so we have to watch republicans in congress to see if they push back on the president because ultimately they could push back on something and force his hands

just as they have done with russia sanctions in the past. >> typically, the president, for example, when it comes to russia, the president takes one tack, but members of his administration often try to soften what the president is saying, but in this case, it seems like mike pompeo, they all seem to be on the same page in terms of making these denials and covering up for what saudi arabia might have done. >> because it was secretary pompeo, a lot of the pressure came from congress as well. but there were voices within the administration then, secretary pompeo is an architect of the iran policy. and the administration has said it needs saudi arabia on a number of fronts, number one as an ally in the region. and if you put pressure on the saudis to stop buying iranian oil. this is an audio of a conversation pompeo had with

reporters, he went to saudi arabia, he went to turkey and met with the president and foreign minister there. the turks again say they have conclusive evidence about this murder. listen to the secretary. >> told me they were going to conduct a thorough and complete and transparent investigation. they made no exceptions about who they would hold accountable. they were very clear. >> do you think that khashoggie is alive or dead? >> they want the opportunity to complete this investigation in a thorough way. >> that doesn't sound like he's pushing them. now maybe he has reasons for that, maybe he knows he needs to wait a handful of days, he thinks he'll get a report from the saudis on this. he's clearly in a difficult spot. but they told me they were going to conduct a thorough and transparent investigation. it seems to be setting the table

that we will accept a credible report when the saudi officials investigate themselves. with a saudi regime that apparently sent people into this consulate, close to the crown prince, the crown prince is in charge of this investigation, on whether the crown prince ordered this. >> i'm not sure what the -- by saying that they're going to wait for this report to come out, you know, the most report could say is that it was a rogue, something went wrong, which is what the president seems to be leading them in that direction. but i think he's being boxed into a corner here. but the question is, is it goingigoing to matter or not domestically. when he talked about his cabinet, was he saying that with a straight face? >> the whole interview was a straight face. it comes back to that he views

everything through a political lens. >> and a personal lens. >> and he talked about this potential arms sale and not wanting that to go awry, the bottom line, the business line is important to him. >> this is nothing like the kavanagh situation, look at the history involved here, he's been so tough on allies, on long, loyal u.s. allies here, it's just a little bit unusual for him not to be slightly more. >> from a pompeo standpoint, they seem to be making the calculation of the lesser of the two evils, saudi arabia or turkey. he really wants to go after saudi arabia and saudi is a top ally on the united states when it comes to pushing back, the sunnis versus the shiia. right now he doesn't want to give up that relationship unless he's forced to. so by allowing the saudis to do their own investigation, which

is clearly a scam, you don't let a murder investigate his own murder. it gives them a way out, i guess, but everybody's going to scoff at whatever those findings are. >> what if these audio or there's other recordings or other evidence coming out that's made more public, the details we are hearing are gruesome so that ups the international pressure. >> and you heard actors here if you will. the turks have every reason to pick a fight with saudi arabia, they have every reason to get back in the good graces of the u.s. administration. and they say, if they don't have it, it will be on them. they say they have conclusive evidence of a murder and rogue actors, and the president says they're rogue killers. if this team included forensic experts and people who had autopsy experience, why would

you send people who know how to cut up a body just in case you have rogue actors in your authority. >> the details we have heard are so gory, like you said, even though, like you said, turkey, not the best player, the most honest player in all of this. it's hard to make up these things, that we're hearing and the times as confirmed just a few minutes ago. yeah, it seems hard to imagine that turkish officials would go out there and sort of make these sort of gory details up. >> the president seems to be buying time, hoping to the fates to keep this relationship going. up next here, the president says, michael cohen, i hardly knew him. an act of kindness. an old friend. a new beginning. some welcome relief...

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mueller's investigation is always at the top of the president's mind. witch hunt mentality is still alive. >> i need help in idaho. i need help in iowa, oh, let's call russia. it's a con job, just like so many other con jobs that you've been seeing. it's a total con job, it's a disgrace that they were allowed to do it. it's a witch hunt, nothing more than a witch hunt, everybody gets it, including democrats, they look at me and they wink at me. >> once again, be careful to remember, that's the president's take, or the president's spin, probably the best way to put it. the investigation, look at all the convictions, it's not a con job. the special counsel team could timi finalize it's core findings and that mueller could issue those assessments soon after election day, the council's office says expected declines to comment on this. we knew the justice department

guidelines say don't go public unless you have to in a period of around 60 days after the election. so it's been a relatively quiet period. the new white house counsel is going to be on board. the fact that he didn't move over to that job -- they understand that in mid-november, this is going to be front and center again. >> the question still has not been resolved, would the president sit down or not, he said it would be a waste of time, that does not mean he's going to. the whole idea of the witch hunt, senator burr, the republican chairman on capitol hill, the intel committee, he has said it's not a witch hunt. the president can say this all he wants, the reality is it's not true. but they have been very effective in the court of public opinion because there is exasperation with this here. i'm not sure it's going to fact the midterm elections. i don't think it's going to when everything is baked in here. this is going to be waiting for

him starting november 8. >> when people said they are turned off by white house -- on friday, paul manafort will be on court on a plea deal, then you have october 25, george popadopoulos is supposed to testify on capitol hill. november 6 of course is election day, then you have the michael cohen sentencing in december, the michael flynn sentencing a bit later in december. so this is what we know is going to come up. then there's what we don't know. what is the special counsel working on. will he have a report after the election, what will happen to those cases in new york that michael is a part of. but the investigations will continue of the trump organization. michael cohen was your personal attorney for many years, he testified under oath in federal court that you directed him to commit a crime, did you, sir? the president, it's false, totally false. so he's lying under oath?

>> oh, absolutely, he's lying, and michael cohen was a p.r. person who die small legal work, very small legal work. he was not low level, he was not a p.r. guy, he was the president's right hand man in a lot of his dirty work. >> and that should credit john la mere who asked that specific question. michael cohen entered a federal plea deal saying that president trump directed these efforts to pay off women in the days before the 2016 campaign and the president is trying to distance himself from him. but the fact that he entered the deal, is testimony that the investigation team to take it seriously. so say that he was only a p.r. man, does not bear out with what we saw michael cohen do all those years. >> this is what the president does. actually to that point, when you asked about paul manafort, and

the president said who, did he legitimately not hear the question or was it a stylistic -- >> that is a fair critique and i don't know. i can't say his goal there. he also read over and doubled down on his comments about stormy daniels. his tweets, tweet yesterday describing her as horse face, saying you can take that however you want. >> i think it's interesting that we have the midterms three weeks away, it's not mueller who's sort of quietly doing his work and not issuing his report before election day. but candidates, democrats as well as republicans are not using it in ads, but that really changes come november 7, of course if democrats take the house, they are already lining up investigations, what they're going to do, they're talking to michael cohen themselves, i

wouldn't be surprised if you see him on capitol hill testifying about what the president directed. >> it's a great point and in the room with the president right now, there's a cabinet meeting right now going on at the white house. about the attorney general jeff sessions. this is the fox business news asked jeff sessions, will he be there after the election? >> jeff sessions should have never let it happen, he should have never recused himself. why would he say i'm going to recuse myself, i wouldn't have put him in that position. >> but he's recused himself, is he going to stay in that position? >> i'm not going to tell you that. >> everybody on capitol hill seems to think that's coming, they're just sort of waiting for it. but the republicans have given him the green light saying, hey, you get to pick who leads the justice department. >> maybe they're going to wait until after the midterms for some of these things, the fight over border funding, there are people saying let's table these until after.

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welcome back. the president is getting a head start on the inevitable post election blame game. or in his case, the don't blame me game. no was the president's answer when he was asked if he would bear some responsibility if republicans lose control of the house. he said, quote, no, i think i'm helping people. his poll numbers are weak, but up a bit as of late. he says he thinks the kavanagh fight will help the republicans in the midterms. he said i think we're going to do well, it feels to me very much like '16. the fight has had an impact on energy and it's had an impact on the republican party. a very positive one in terms of getting out and oating. republicans will pay, literally, if they don't vote, then the democrats win. >> we have a tremendous, powerful base in the republican

party, and they have to know that going out for the midterms is very important. it's almost like the 2020 election that's coming up in the not too distant future. if they don't go out and vote, they'll lose wealth, i built up $11.7 trillion in wealth. >> he's making the point there, i don't know -- he's still in the white house, but the point is the democrats will raise your taxes if they win. they can't if he's still in the white house. but you get the political argument there, my policies will be at risk. but to the point where, no, he's the president, midterm elections are always about the president. bill clinton had to give a news conference saying he was still relevant after a midterm election. obama took some responsibility, but grudgingly. but what was the body language to that, that no, i will bear no responsibility. >> he was fairly defiant. he's not interested in getting

tagged with this if they lose. and he wants to split the difference, he wants credit for the things that go well, he said look, i'm helping people get their poll numbers out. i'm out there doing rallies, i'm doing these things, but ultimately he's not on the ballot. and he said further on the interview, he said i'm hearing from people. he said well i would vote if you were running, but you're not. >> house republicans meanwhile privately say they think they're doing okay, they think they're going to lose the house. but they're doing okay despite him and that he is to blame. but it's interesting because you are seeing the blame game right now, and you're seeing stories blaming the nrc, and the congressional leadership fund, which is this massive pac fund that tries to protect the president. why is the president to blame if we lose the house, the source said we need him right now to turn out voters. there are members who he really does help.

>> i think the white house tries. they think he is helpful. >> he's going to districts where it matters. >> no question he's helping in these red state senate races, states where he won big, places like montana, north dakota, perhaps indiana. but the question is, it feels like '16. he's not going to the philadelphia suburbs, he is not going to places where he is tox toxic. >> but even in the states that he did win in 2016, pennsylvania, ohio, where there are big senate races and people like lou barletta, who trump convinced to run, he's doing well. voters don't seem convinced in some of these states that the president ran just two years ago. >> the president says no, don't blame me, blame yourselves if you didn't do it. but he did say the other day, i am on the ballot sort of.

>> i'm not on the ticket, but i am on the ticket because this is also a referendum about me. get out and vote, i want you to vote, pretend i'm on the ballot, and don't worry, we'll be on the ballot in two years and we will do a landslide like you wouldn't believe. >> two things, midterms are always a referendum on the president, so his in a way on the ballot. he cannot wait for 2020 to start. he keeps talking about it. i wa if the democrats take back the house and we have made this point several times, you're going to have a lot of aggressive oversight, not only looking at the special counsel investigations, looking at deregulation, just about everything the president has done on health care and sun rise and sunset will be reviewed by a democratic house. how will you handle investigations, impeachment prospects, i think i'm handling it very well already.

what about your tax returns, they have to do whatever they do, and i'll do whatever i do. and i have had the most successful two years. is that what he really feels about it ? >> going into the midterms, going into the next two years, to your point about politics, he is looking to 2020. he wants to talk about the preside democrats who want to run against him. he's not phased by any of them. he wants to be on the campaign trail more. so i think he wants to -- he does not what about to suggest any anxiety or weakness. >> to the point we're making about the president's confidence and his political instincts, people are telling him, this midterm is about you, we're probably going to lose the house. these are the same people who were telling him in 2016 he was going to lose. two white house officials se s

telling jeremy that the president plans to sit down with some more media interviews before the midterm elections, both friendly. as much as we can fit in, they say. >> he's flooding the zone in all of this. he continues to be his best spokes ismman and he's right on that. he's going to arizona at the end of this week as well. and there are some involved in these senate races who just wish he would stay in places like montana and other places. i think of all the places he's traveling, the arizona senate race is probably the most interesting. i was talking to someone who says we're afraid he's going to fire up the democratic side. but he is -- he is in the thick of these races, i'm told he's being briefed on house races and other things.

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topping our political radar today, some news just made by the president, he says he'll instruct every member of his cabinet to cut their budget by

5% next year. the president has not said whether that includes the pentagon and jim mattis. the first lady's plane made an emergency landing today when smoke began filling the cabin shortly after takeoff. no word on exactly what caused it, but the first lady did go on to that hospital visit on a different plane. a new micromicrocaravan is s way to the united states and includes children. it's still heading north decembdespite a stern warning to the president who says he will cut off aid to the migrants' home countries, he says that they will be arrested and deported if they try to cross. among the flash points,

tariffs, immigration, impeachment and government funded health care. >> congressman o'rourke is imposing socialized medicine. >> it's the same person who shut down the government of the united states of america for 16 days perhaps because he thought too many people had too much health care. >> i'm against tariffs, i'm against trade wars, i have made the point repeatedly to mr. president trump. there's no race in the country with a starker divide on immigration than this race here in the state of texas. >> he's dishonest, that's why the president called him lying ted and it's why the nickname stuck. >> we always like good feisty debates, and there was some substance, it wasn't all just personal attacks, there was substance in there. the congressman did not have a good answer when he talked about border security zplcht t. >> the general consensus coming

out of that seems to be that cruz won. it's interesting that obviously a lot of people feel perhaps that he peaked too early. he was really close in the polls with cruz and seems to be falling behind and didn't get a really good shot at cruz last night just as we're heading three weeks into the election. >> he has a lot of experience under his belt. but that's a problem for democrats overall, they have not had as strong of an answer on immigration. >> in a state like texas, at the end of the day, this is texas and for someone who's been running too far to the left, it is hard to come up with an answer that will appease the voters of texas when you're up against someone like ted cruz. >> and you saw him trying to duplicate trump's campaign tactics, you saw o rourke using

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going into the campaign. and charles koch, he made his fortune in energy. what he cares most about, the koch network, he says $400 million to go into protect the gop majority. you have probably seen tom steyer, climate change, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. he says he's spending $100 billion to push his impeachment message. michael bloomberg, he was a republican, he's now a democrat. climate change, guns, immigration, what mayor bloomberg likes to talking about. $100 million to help the democrats win congress. he says that spending is about 2018. but he and his team may also clear, he's thinking about running for president in 2020. again, former republican, former independent, now a democrat, thinks -- actually democrats

aren't as liberal as many people say. >> i don't know that it's moved further left, i think that is conventional wisdom among some people, but there are an awful lot of some people that say if you talk to democrats, they're much more centrist than most people understand. right now i'm focussing on november 6, plain and simple. that's the most important thing. >> centralist. >> are the democratic primaries telling us that the democrats are looking for a centrist or centralist? >> most are not. no question about it. but there is going to be a lane for a lot of people. and he has it a lot of money and that will buy him, you know, a space for sure. but, you know, the question is, i still find it hard to sort of get my mind around how he can win a democratic primary. but, you know, we learned in 2016, that we should keep our mind open to every possibility and especially a possibility, someone who can write a very big check. >> in a very crowded field, if

you are self-funded, last man standing, it's not implausible. it's not the message. you were in the meeting with the president yesterday, he says the campaign will start the next day after the midterms. he talks be it the possibility of running against michael bloomberg. >> michael bloomberg might be running. >> that's got? >> yeah? >> i think it would be easy. i think it would be so easy. >> in other words he wouldn't be able to do anything in the primaries because of where the party's going? >> i think that democrats will eat him up. you know, you have a lot of people running. i don't think he'll do well. he may do it or he may not, but i don't think he'll do well. >> if you go to a trump rally. any of these rallies before the midterms, he devotes a big chunk of time each night, the election of 2016, the way the results came out, the surprise element.

this remains the highlight of his life as far as we can tell in politics and vanquishing all of these republican foes. he's just salivating to do the nicknames, to do the combat, to go after all of them. he cannot wait. >> i think there is some truth to what trump is saying that democrats will eat him up because i think money can only get you so far is what we learned in 2016 and what we're seeing so far in 2018, democrats raising huge amounts of money, not through a billionaire necessarily, but from the energy from grass roots donors and a lot of the democrats that might be running in 2020, we're already hearing them say they're not going to take corporate money, they really don't want these big billionaires funding their campaigns. so bloomberg in that sense might not quite be what the base is looking for at this point in time. >> and again, i'll stick with the 2016 comparison. i think you're absolutely right,

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