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but he took risks by meeting with afghans. >> absolutely. barbara, still the mission continues and it's important to highlight general miller and the work that all our service members are doing overseas. thank you, barbara. thank you for joining me today. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. s. >> thank you, kate. welcome to "inside politics." tougher words from the white house today aimed at saudi arabia, but still no clarity on what the president means by severe consequences, 'he waits for the royal family report on the apparent murder of a saudi journalist. the next campaign is front and center in this campaign. a half dozen democrats mulling 2020 presidential runs are out today making friends and urging big blue turnout in the 2018 mid terms. the president makes his mid
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terms closing arguments. hi facts, sketchy sometimes. his lead issues -- all about the base. >> this will be an election of kavanaugh, the caravan, law and order, and common sense. that's what it's going to be. it's going to be an election of those things. and we begin right there with the president defaulting to his go-to message just days before a midterm test most predict republicans will lose. the president's old campaign rallying cry, that illegal immigration is a danger to the country is now the new centerpiece for the republican closing argument. >> remember it will be an election of the caravan. i know what i'm talking about. you know what i'm talking about. a lot of money has been passing through people to come up and try to get to the border by election day, because they think that's a negative for ups. number one, they're being
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stopped. number two, regardless, that's our issue. >> that's our issue, he says. most say health care is the important issue to them, but the president believes immigration, especially the fact-challenged often conspiratorial issues. foinchts we have -- >> we have to by law, with these horrible people, we have to take them in, even if they're criminals, and we have hardened criminals coming in. you think those people are perfect? they're not perfect. you have some hardened, bad people coming in. >> with me this friday to share the reporting and their insights
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abby philip, michael scherr, jackie kucinich, and karen -- with "the washington post." he trusts his instincts. i don't think who is paying -- who is paying the people in the caravan? >> it's just like he paid for the women's march as well as kavanaugh protesters. this is something we have seen the president and some of his more conspiratorial followers go back to that well. it seems to be an explanation for people who don't agree with them, and people who are apparently out to get them, or out to get the united states. as he's casting the individuals who are in this caravan which of course is organized to call attention to some of the issues that are in latin america right now. drug violence, which a lot of these people are flees. >> will it work? will it work? we know this has been the president's go-to.
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it worked gangbusters in the primaries, it worked in the 2016 general election. he's been president for almost two years. if there's a problem enforcing the border, yes, the democrats wouldn't give him his wall money. the republicans wouldn't give him the wall money, let's be honest, but he can do things. if there's a problem with the border, isn't it his problem? >> i think that's why it gets under his skin so much. it's both an opportunity potentially to motivate his base, but also in some ways it speaks to a political weakness, if he can't control the border after two years, if he can't get the money for his wall after two years, that looks like a promise made but not kept. that's one of the reasons it's bothered him so much. i think it can be a potent issue, which is why you see so many residence running on is itr
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it, maybe not so much for people in purple states or purple districts, but for republicans have been a hard time channeling trumpism, this is a pretty easy straightforward direct way to do it. >> it's a great point. in other ways this is a referendum on the playbook. will what worked in 2016, can other people do that in 2018, including the president? to your point, this is marsha blackburn running against the former governor of tennessee in a very close tennessee senate race. she's playing the immigration card. >> because of loose immigration policies, every state's a border state and every town is a border town. when phil brat i son was governor he issued taxpayer-funded driving certificates to 51,000 illegal aliens. he made our state a magnet for
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illegal aliens. people in tennesseer that. >> every state is a border state. >> it may be a slogan, especi especially if you're trying to drive that home. though there's a lot of internal middle of america state seems to care more about it than -- they're bluer states towards the border, because these are people who live among them and part of their communities. look, this is effectively driving a message to the base. people came out to vote for trump, and he needs to transfer that down to the congressional-level races for hits majority in congress. and this would rev up the people who are already with him to make sure they get out on election day to actually cast their vote. i don't know if it draws anybody from the middle, because this
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slog sloganeering, and people in the middle tend to vote more on economic issues, not necessarily the red meat stuff. but if it's a numbers game, why not? >> he could have more construction of the border wall. he could have had a money if they cut a deal with the democrats on daca. he could have had a deal on daca and gotten some border wall money. he did not want that deal. it is largely, most reps are agreeing that this is a good issues, most republicans. this is maria salazar running for an open, rep held now florida seat. former television anchor who looks around her district, looks at what the president is saying about the caravan, and says no. >> you have to understand that honduras is the most violent country in the hemisphere. you would do it, too, if your daughter is facing to be raped or your son to be part of -- i'm
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not condoning -- i am a republican and i believe we need a very strict border security, but you also have to understand or neighbors are desperate. the overwhelming majority of those people are facing death. they're under the threat of death. >> the president says they're bad people. she says the overwhelming majority are anything but bad people. >> you won't get a lot of republicans taking -- that's obviously a particular case. for president trump this is not only a political calculation, this is very personal for him. what you have seen over and over again is the president becoming really passionate about his failius to fai failure when he talks about what he promised to do. you heard about a screaming match yesterday over this issue. we have heard previous times when the president has just berated his homeland security secretary over this issue. it comes up again and again
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inside the white house when the president is shown evidence that, despite his efforts, despite all the things we have heard of, the executive orders, the travel bans, the efforts to increase enforcement, and he gets handed documents that say, look, it's higher this month than last month, higher this year than last year, and he goes into a rage. part of what is happening is the politics is following -- sort of flowing from his own personal anger on the issue. >> he's taken a lot of heat from it, from his conservative base on television. the president watches a lot of tv, and the people he watched talk about this issue all the time he and they say where is the border wall? why are the caravans coming? they're showing images of people walking through central america, through mexico. this is how the president views the world.
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he's watching images and people are telling him he needs to do more, and going to his aides and saying, what is going on with this? they're approaching this the way a lot of administrations do, that you have to work with these countries, work with honduras, guatemala to help them help you, but the president is not interested in that. he wants to cut the spigot off. >> it's going to be a fascinating test. the candidate salazar, she's an exception. most republicans are with the president, but montana yesterday you could sell that message. he's in arizona and then nevada, where there's certainly a trump base, but also a risk that he alivens and wakens the latino base there. the president changes his tone over the apparent murder of a journalist.
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trump administration today two weeks after the apparent murder of jamal khashoggi. earlier this week the secretary of state would not even concede that there was an incident, on that the journalist was missing. he says the consequences could be severe if the evidence points to murder. >> reporter: what are you considering the possible consequence foss saudi based on those -- >> it's bad, bad stuff. we'll see what happens. >> tough works as we had from the vice president. >> are tthe world deserves answ. if what is alleged occurred, an innocent person lost their life, that's to be condemned. if a journalist in particular lost their life at the hands of violence, that's an affront to a free and independent press
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around the world and there will be consequences. >> it is a tougher tone. the question is, what do they mean? are they holding space? or as they assess what they know, are they moving to a tougher stance? >> i think the striking thing is what the vice president just said, the words that the vice president said were exactly what any regular politician would have said the first moment that this came up, right? if you had said -- if the president and the administration had taken that stance, which is not to say condemning saudi arabia, which is a long-standing ally of the united states out of the box, saying we have to wait for the facts. if the facts as they are, we're going to take strong action. if they had said that, they might as well given space for the various investigations to proceed, for things to march forward. what is remarkable is the extent to which which united states fails again and again to kind of
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set the right tone early on. instead they simply stumble through a series of mistakes to get to the place where they need to be. >> you can understand that. if your reflexes to do what the vice president does, which is the right and responsible thing from the beginning, look, we're not going to rush to judgment, about you if interrogated, tortured, killed, dismember? and then body smuggled out of the country, and then they lie about it? the problem is -- >> the current president took a really hard turn back towards strengthening this alliance with saudi arabia because obama had moved toward iran and he want to do make it clear that he wasn't going to do anything that obama had done.
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he's also looked at other strong men, like putin, he didn't meddle in the election, because he said he didn't, and salman is more of an ally, so yes, he has a tendency to shoot his mouth off, but he also has a track record of things leading up to this situation, which makes it seem like the not best possible case scenario of what a president said is likely going through his head. so i think -- i don't want to -- that he's ad-libbing his way through right now. >> i mean, one of the common things, you mentioned putin, it seems like the president likes to do whatever is expedient, whatever allows him to move on the next thing and get past a controversy, so yeah, i just believe them, we're going to move on,age in this case he
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can't. it's further complicated the fact that the de facto saudi ambassador is jared kushner. there isn't an official one. there's jared kushner who has laid extremely low since all of this broke, but he has been -- earlier he had been back channeling, so you can't fire him. he's there. it's his son-in-law. >> the risk they face now is there has been damage done already. they're trying to deliberate their way through it, they're trying to put the brakes on, but they've already done damage. when president trump echoed the rogue actor's explanation, that created space, a huge amount of space for saudis to distance themselves from what happened. it also demonstrated to the world that the president wasling to potentially take a hard to believe excuse for something like this at face value. those things have long-term
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congressing. th -- consequences. i think that one of the reasons we're hearing from administration officials about concern about this moment, they're worried the next time they face a huge human rights issue or crossroads, they won't have the moral authority to move past it. >> but how can you lecture honduras, how can you lecture others and what signal do they take in beijing, in pyongyang, arob the arab world? i just want to play this, because this is eerie. mrs. khashoggi talking about how the world is watching president trump and that's where these cues come from. >> we argue about that, is it a filter that made prince bin salman field empowered in this impulsive behavior?
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it is dangerous. dangerous for saudi arabia, for the region. >> a debate months ago about the issue painfully, sadly we face today. >> and this is not the first time this question about what is the human rights stance of the trump administration has come up. it's always been the sidebar of what else is going on in the moment. whether it's pompeo's confirmation or the president's international trip, speeches in north korea. this has been a repeated refrain of you need to be putting more weight behind this, and they don't. it's never the story, and now it is. >> it's also an indication of the -- especially in human rights cases, oftentimes the most effective, you know, way of doing that is by allying all of the western democracies in a common sense of condemnation of whatever has happened. in this case, there have been joint statements by the eu and
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others, and the united states has not been part of that, partly behalf way president trump has distanced himself from our traditional allies. i think next week will be fascinating. the handful of days they have given the saudis to give a report on themselves will lapse next week. next for us, back to politics, closing arguments of 2018 give you a glimpse at 2020. >> brothers and sisters, health care is a right, not a privilege. you've got to get in there, like... i know what a bath is smile honey this thing is like... first kid ready here we go by their second kid, every parent is an expert and... ...more likely to choose luvs, than first time parents.
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corey booker in south carolina, harris heads to the midwest, bernie sanders is also on to south carolina. martin oy mallie, he's in ohio today. joe biden will visit nevada this weekend, making friends for 2020, yes, but not without an appeal to vote this year. >> i want >> what my republican colleagues
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wasn't is not to vote. when people tell you -- and i've heard this for such a long time, i'm not going to vote, my vote doesn't matter, all politicians are crooked, you tell them that you're sick and tired are hearing them moan and groan about what's going on. >> these things always collide. people with ambition the next election try to make their mark in this election. it's a great weigh way to get people to rallies, and start getting names, e-mails, phone numbers. >> it's also a -- is there a bump in the poll, and it gets their face out there to states and districts, depending on
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where they came from, where they're not known. but the field is pretty wide right now in terms of the number of people throwing their hat in the ring. >> with five people at the table we don't have enough fingers for all the potential candidates. >> what we are seeing with the candidates going to different states, that's fairly common. what we don't see, and i think what has been ill-received is what elizabeth warren did on monday with the dna test and really making a spectacle of herself right before the mid terms. in talking to democrats this week, there's a lot of like, what are you doing? can't you just wait? >> selfish. selfish. >> right. that was definitely not appreciated the same way as having corey booker stand on the stage with you. >> so bernie sanders, joe biden, familiar faces, if you will, corey booker out as well.
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what about a new guy? >> we are the party of we, not the party of me. we're the party of social securi security. we're the party of medicare, we're the party of medicaid. they blew a deficit in our budget, and now they want to cud medicate, medicare and social security. we've got to respond to them, not just with our voices saying hell no. we have to respond at the ballot box. >> it is, again, there are candidates on the ballot there, but when you see the 2020 potentials, overlay where they are with the 2020 primary map and you'll get some coincidences. >> they have to figure out who will be capable of leading the party everybody's just kind of out there seeing what catches fire, what catches on, and who catches on. i'm not sure that they have made
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a whole lot of progress, but they have to start trying at some point, because they're running out of time. 2020 is literally starting in like three months if not yesterday. >> bless you if you can put that oaf. republicans are taking advantage. for good or for bad, they are running with him in 2020. >> no one thought was a -- and he's not president of the united states. let me add this this quote -- somewhere between highly unlikely and zero, but it's not zero, that's felipe rains about but it's not zero. did philippe just need to see
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his name out there? >> it's zero. >> it's zero. it's not possible. >> it's somewhere between zero and highly unlikely that i will run for president. and john, too. >> but to your point about the large field, this reminds me, which is to say lots of different politics, lots of different personal dynamics, that's what we're going to have for a long time, as journalists we'll be racing around a million different directions chasing around people, not knowing how much of a chance they have. >> if joe biden does run, you may see a very brand-new joe biden. look at this. it's called restraint. >> president trump says that you're his dream candidate, it's his dream to run against you. >> well, i tell you what --
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well, i shouldn't say anything. >> please. we've been the cameras rolling. >> no, no, no. >> age has given me some wisdom. >> there you have it. up next for us beto o'roarke said he went to far by borrowing a nickname from the president. your insurance rates skyrocket after a scratch so small you could fix it with a pen. how about using that pen to sign up for new insurance instead? for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty mutual insurance.
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fraud and banking charges by a jury in virginia. since then he's been cooperating with the special counsel's probe. they are suspending an major military exercise. president trump has been a critic ofs exercises, calling them expensive and provocative. he suspended several others after hi summit with kim jong-un. ryan zinke and his wife may have violated travel policy. she was traveling with him and considered listing her as a volunteer at the agency to allow her to travel at taxpayers' experience. zinke denies the allegations and says he's reimbursed when required. florida easing voting rules in the counties hit hard by hurricane michael. they have a solid history of vote fog republicans. governor scott signed the executive order, is challenging
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senator bill nelson in a closely watched race for the united states senate. watch this. >> nelson says president trump should be abolished. really? abolished? as for me, i'll work with prompt when he's doing things good for florida and for america. when i disagree, i have the courage to say so. >> i know what i'll do, i'll say no. we all know what rick scott will do. he'll say yes. beto o'rourke said last night he still sports impeaching president trump. he also faced off against ted cruz earlier this week when he brought back lyin' ted. it's a more o'rourke says he now may regret. >> it's not something that i field totally comfortable with. perhaps in the heat of the
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moment, i took a stip too far. >> do you regret it? >> you know, i -- i don't know that that's the way i want to be talking in this campaign. >> do you regret it? >> the problem is, if part of your campaign, if part of your -- the reason you are in politics is to push badge against donald trump and donald trump's behavior in office, if that's your shtick, then lowering yourself to not only to the same level, but to the exact phrase that president trump used when he was a candidate doesn't help that. >> another story we just talked about, calling this a coincidence and serren dipity, i looked up to see the president in montana with a drain the swamp sign behind him, i was reading the zinke story. uh-huh. >> the zinke story, the epa, we could go on and on and on.
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the swamp just has different creatures in it. what the president has said is the swamp is strong, the swamp is -- it -- the swamp has maintained itself and i just haven't been able to, you know, fix it yet. well, again, different create terr. >> paul manafort in court, reading the zinke report, reinforcing the swamp is what he's done so far. heidi heitkamp says she's sorry and using colorful language about the president's trade policy. come with us to a new world deeper than the ocean as unfathomable as the universe a world that doesn't exist outside you, but within you where breakthrough science is replacing chemotherapy
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apology. heidi heitkamp trying to make amends naming sexual assault survivors without their permission. >> the last thing i would ever want to do is cause trauma. my parents taught me if i made a mistake, my obligation was to take responsibility and then to try and make things right. >> heitkamp is trailing, and a lot would significantly hurt, likely kill any hope of seizing the congress. >> i think the whole world got to see what mob rule would look like. we're fortunate brett kavanaugh was concerned. i do support the border wall. with regard to preexisting conditions it was a failure prior to obamacare. it's one of the reasons that it's one of the most popular
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items that people have pledged to maintain. >> that's the rep playbook, try to get the kavanaugh energy, and then in the end zone that's what all the republicans are saying, however, they have the house and senate majority. they didn't pass anything as they were trying to repeal he obamacare, they didn't -- and the trump administration is trying to -- >> it's hard for me to see this flying. repeal obama care, and preserve obamacare on the democratic side. a key part of that is -- this revisionist history is truly -- i don't think voters are stupid. it's not difficult to understand. however if they do change their position, that's a different
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story, but i think mitch mcconnell would have to get on board, pull back on some of these pending lawsuits. they would have to change their whole approach. >> but does it matter? heidi heitkamp had a very difficult environment out there. she was hoping to say you know me, i'm heidi, send me to washington, this enforced error, this campaign ad, the newspaper ad naming women as victims, survivors of sexual assault, without their permission, listing some women who say they were never involved. can you recover from that? >> when you do that, you put a
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lot of -- you need to maintain the high ground. if you lose it, because of this, because they're the ones who will see this, they're like, how does this happen? >> it also doesn't square with what she did with kavanaugh. that's the issue. the very people she was appealing to because of that vote. i'm not saying he does it. >> i would say really quickly, i agree with all of that. i think this is one of those things we had more of an operational mistake f. because of what she did she somehow thinking differently or fundamentally supports differently. can they excuse it, because it sort of looks like -- >> so she martially, i don't know if it worked, she smartly -- a lot of i'll use
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moderating influence. >> and she's looking to be that person. it's not just that the she has executive experience and she has the foreign policy experience, so she really -- she will be formidable when he decides to do this. >> part of doing something like this is to show this president is pugilistic on twitter. part of doing the al smith dinner is to try to show you're kinder and gentler, if you will, about this speculation about running for president. >> there was a fake story that i'm actually thinking about running for president. that is so ridiculous. it's way too early for anyone to think about it, unless you're a senate democrat during the kavanaugh hearing. >> muted laughter. she's not wrong.
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>> it's just sort of. >> this is the president of the united states a little earlier this month. >> it's a disgraceful situation, brought about by people that are evil, and he toughed it out. >> that's the president calling evil those who oppose not brett kavanaugh. evil, the president says. nikki haley has a different view. >> in america our political opponents are not evil. in south sudan where rape is routinely used as a weapon of war, that is evil. in syria, where the dictator using chemical weapons to murder innocent children, that is evil. we have some serious political differences here at home, but our opponents are not evil. they're just our opponents.
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>> she still works for him. >> you know, that's one of the best examples of how she probably probably better than anyone else who has worked for president trump over the last year and a half, has managed to navigate not getting tainted by the president's, you know, tone and kind of rhetorical style and yet somehow still maintain and get the benefits of the kind of tough approach to foreign policy, the kind of, you know, not looking like a wimpy democrat, and she's -- the question will be over the next however many years she sort of trying to advance her own political career, how can she keep the pieces, the benefits of being a trumpy and distancing her self-from the bad parts. >> and a lot of that depends on how much she calls on her on 2020 and how willing she is. some say she could be a great trump chairman. >> but there's a risk to that,
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right? the nice part is she's disconnecting herself is the biggest danger is in the rear-view mirror. >> and she did say she wanted to make some money. thanks for joining us for "inside politics." check out our podcast and hope tos you back here sunday morning, up early, 8:00. have a great weekend. "wolf" starts right now. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. thanks very much for joining us. any moments now former trump campaign chairman paul manafort will appear in court. you're looking at live pictures coming in from the federal court in northern virginia. this time in his green detention uniform after a federal judge denied his request to simply wear a business suit. manafort could learn when he'll be formally sentenced for his eight tax fraud
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