-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com [ cheers and applause ] good evening. i'm van jones. welcome to "the van jones show." look, tonight, i got a serious message, folks. do not get distracted. don't get distracted. we're less than three weeks away from the midterm elections of 2018, but what is this election really? it's really the first national referendum on president trump. november 6th is the first time since trump won that every voter gets a chance to see if we approve of how stuff is going. now, listen, protest is

powerful, social media is powerful, writing letters to the editor is powerful, all that stuff is powerful. nothing is as powerful as millions of voters marching into voting booths to collectively reward or punish, hire or fire the very leaders of a nation. and that's what you get to do in a couple of weeks. it's up to you who you vote for but please remember this. retweets, facebook shares, instagram likes do not count as votes, okay? only votes count as votes, and in this election, everybody knees needs to vote. to help us understand that better, we've got a real political heavy weight, valerie jarrett is here tonight. she is spear heading a bipartisan initiative called when we all vote to try to get people to go to the ballot box in either party. i'm super glad she's here. the good news about voting, the early voting numbers are up big-time in states like georgia,

tennessee, and indiana. that's great. bad news, voter suppression, got to be honest, mostly republicans using all kinds of cheap tricks to keep eligible citizens from voting, that's also up and we've got increased reports about that. what can we do about it? i don't know, but i bet valerie jarrett's got some ideas. she's going to be here. plus, we are going to talk to four first-time candidates who are running for congress. these are not ordinary candidates, okay? it takes a lot of courage to run for office. it takes even more courage to put on a uniform and serve overseas. our guests have done both. we've got veterans from both parties who are now running for congress and i am proud to have some veterans here tonight that we need to hear more from our veterans, the ones who run for office and others. so, look, serious times, serious topics, but we got a president who too often wants to distract you from the serious stuff. and that's why he's out there doing all these rallies and tv interviews, calling his porn

star former mistress horse face, attacking elizabeth warren, trying to get everybody scared of immigrants again, saying there are good scientists on both sides of the climate debate, making fun of reporters getting beaten up by american politicians, invoking brett kavanaugh as an excuse for not condemning the saudis who allegedly murdered and dismembered a journalist, okay? so he wants to fight about kavanaugh and the caravan and do these culture wars. don't get distracted. focus on the real issues. for instance, poll numbers show number one issue in midterm elections? health care. the bone thing he's not talking much about. the republicans spent years promising to repeal obamacare and replace it with something better. well, they have repealed it and made it worse for a whole lot of people. now suddenly, you hear republicans going around trying to sound like barack obama, saying they want to protect people with preexisting conditions, which is what

obamacare did. even trump is out there tweeting, all republicans support people with preexisting conditions and if they don't, they will after i speak to them. i am in total support. translation, republicans feel vulnerable on health care. now, funny, that's exactly the kind of serious, life or death issue that voters like you should be focused on. so, don't get distracted. and next up, we got somebody who knows a lot about all these issues and why voting matters now more than ever. please welcome to "the van jones show," the former adviser to president barack obama, valerie jarrett in the house. >> thank you. thank you. thank you. >> very, very good. >> thank you, van. >> beautiful. >> thank you. hello, everybody. >> thank you for being here. >> congratulations to you. i love that you have this show. >> i am so glad to have you

here, and i'm so glad that you're actually trying to get people focused on voting. but why are you taking so much time to focus on getting people to the polls? >> it's the foundation of our democracy. our country is at its strongest when it really reflects the will of the american people, and i have been so disenchanted over the last several cycles to see the number of people who participate in that important exercise of voting not voting and look, there are lots of reasons why. people are busy. after eight years in washington, i understand why the toxic nature of two sides fighting together is not appealing. but the only way we can hold our elected officials accountable is that if we vote. >> yeah. >> because if we don't, believe me, special interests, they'll come in and pursue their agenda. >> your thing is called, when we all vote. how come it's not, when democrats vote or when women vote or when black folks vote. >> that's a good question. it's a really good question. because the whole underpinning is let's change the culture in our country and help people

appreciate why every vote matters so it is intentionally nonpartisan. you know, mrs. obama is obviously a big part of this effort. she really spearheaded it and she said, i want to change the culture, particularly starting with young people, so they grow up appreciating, regardless of their party, regardless of their position on any one matter, that they recognize that our democracy is stronger when we vote. and so it's by design, nonpartisan. >> i think that's really, really beautiful, because i think there's a tendency, especially in election time, everybody goes to their corners and they just want their side to winn, no matter what. recently, georgia passed what's called exact match. that means every letter and every digit on your voter registration must be identical to what's on your i.d. any misspelling or other little small error could mean you can't vote and they got 50,000 georgians who have had their voter registration frozen. most of them are black. pending lawsuit there. and then north dakota is now requiring residents to show voter i.d. with a current street

address. you think, no big deal. that could hurt native americans who live on tribal lands who often don't have street addresses. so, this is an issue all across the country. take a look at this. >> so important to register right now and vote this november. >> speak your mind, there's nothing to it. vote. >> there's always a big public push around election time to mobilize voters. but states across the country are actually passing new laws to restrict access to the ballot box. they're limiting early voting, they're closing polling places, they're passing voter i.d. laws, purging the names from voter registration rolls. all of this disproportionately hurts racial minorities and the poor. in 2016, three times as many black and hispanic voters than white voters across the country were told they lacked the proper i.d. to vote in the 2016 election, according to a new survey. and twice as many black voters

than white voters were told, incorrectly, that their names had been purged from the voting rolls. now, these laws are often pushed by republican state legislators, why? well, according to some of them, it helps them win elections. here's wisconsin's republican attorney general after the 2016 election. >> how many of your listeners really, honestly are sure that senator johnson was going to win reelection or president trump was going to win wisconsin if we didn't have voter i.d. to keep wisconsin's elections clean and honest. >> and now, listen to georgia's secretary of state, republican gubernatorial candidate brian kemp, expressing concern about get out the vote efforts. >> democrats are working hard, all these stories about, you know, registering all these minority groups that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines and if they can do that, they can win these elections in november. >> another connected issue, in 2013, the supreme court struck down a key part of the voting

rights act in 1965. that ended the justice department's oversight of voting laws in 15 states that had histories of trying to suppress the minority vote. the majority opinion concluded that institutional racism is no longer a problem when it comes to voting. but the supreme court and the u.s. commission on civil rights have both urged congress to take action to protect voting rights for all americans. so far, no legislation from the house or the senate. >> he nailed it. i mean, van, you absolutely nailed it. that's the problem. and my thing is this. our country should celebrate and make it easier for people to vote. that's what a democracy is all about. and how insecure and heinous is it for you to try to repress the vote, particularly when you target one particular group. >> i think it's terrible. i don't want to talk about voter suppression and create voter depression when people are too depressed to go and vote. you still think people should

get out there and fight to get their voices heard. >> there are tools available on our when we all vote website, you can go on the website, it will link you. if you're having trouble rem registering, if you've been blocked, it will make sure that you can still show up and vote, cast a provisional ballot, you have to investigate what's available in your particular state but don't let anybody tell you that you can't vote and that's part of the diabolical strategy and the way to combat that strategy is to show up in larger forces and vote. >> i love that. i just want to get real for a minute. >> let's do that. >> i see the trump rallies, and they've got 20,000 people, 30,000 people. don't you wish we had obama or somebody out there with our 20,000 or 30,000 person rallies. can you please get us some big rallies? >> you know what? rallies do not affect elections.

voters affect elections. >> so the rallies -- >> i think the president always has the ability to go around the country and try to galvanize and excite her -- his or her crowd, but we also have that ability too. we had 2,500 events across the country when we were focusing during election week, registration week back in september. we have thousands of volunteers right now in all 50 states who are registering people and getting them excited and encouraging their family members and their neighbors to get involved. i think that grassroots effort is far more powerful than a rally or two. >> you've always been wiser than me because i like the hope and the change and the goose bumps and stuff. >> we all carry that inside of us. that's not one person. that's each of us. >> yeah. well, you know, trump is saying that it's all going to be about the caravan, which is the immigrants, and kavanaugh. i was surprised that he thought that kavanaugh was cutting in his favor. i think a lot of liberals thought it would cut the other way. do you think the democrats

overshot or misunderstood what was going on with kavanaugh and me too and that kind of stuff? is there a backlash there? what do you think? >> van, i think our moral compass should always be appealing to the better angels, figuring out how we can bring ourselves together, focusing on what we have in common, not what differentiates us. we've been the beacon of hope for the world. our democracy has been because of the core values that we stand for and those are character and integrity and true north and you know what? it's not appropriate to just focus on those character traits, those qualities when times are good. we have to do it when times are hard. that's when true integrity shines through. that's when character shines through. so, you said in your opening, let's not get distracted. i think we have to stay focused on the core issues that have always been the pillars of our party, the pillars of our country, and just focus on that. >> focus on that. i love it. listen, we got a lot more to talk about with valerie jarrett when we get back. coming up, the conners are back on tv.

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and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. in two great flavors. welcome back to "the van jones show." i am here with former senior adviser to president barack obama, valerie jarrett. so, did you watch "the conners"? >> i missed it. i have been traveling all over the country so i did miss it. >> you did miss it. they killed off roseanne on that show. >> i heard. >> and obviously that had to do with that terrible tweet that she put out against you. how do you look back on that, those months ago? how do you reflect on that moment where she crossed the line, america said, you went too

far, she lost her position. how do you think about all that stuff? >> as i said then, van, this really isn't about me. i'm fine. i have a lot of folks who love me and look after me but i'm far more worried about those who don't, those who are vulnerable, those who suffer from the daily kind of seemingly benign but actually quite hostile examples of racism, whether it's a teenager who's shopping in a store and is followed around by the security or teenage boys who have people cross the other side of the street when they walk by or run the risk of not holding their hands exactly where they should when they're driving their car. so i think we have to be prepared to have an uncomfortable conversation in this country and i'd like to see more of that. i'd like to see people really sit down and try to understand what it's like to walk around in someone else's shoes and that out of that greater understanding, that's how we perfect our union. >> yeah, that's good. you know, part of the reason that they have the conners show in the first place is trying to show the other side of that whole thing in terms of, you know, working class white folks,

whatever. she died, on the show, of, like, a pill addiction. >> an opioid, which is a huge crisis in our country, and i congratulate abc for keeping the spotlight on all of these issues, and i wish the show well. i was happy to see that people didn't lose their jobs over this incident, and that they're back to work. and we should tell stories, and that's why the media is so powerful. you have the ability to tell stories that educate and inspire and hopefully give people a sense of empathy for what the lives of others are like. >> i appreciate your heart on that. you're writing a book. >> i am. >> and the title is called "finding my voice." >> yes. >> that title comes out of a conversation you had with your amazing daughter. >> it does. >> tell me about the title. >> my daughter, who's now a reporter right here on cnn. >> one of our best. >> interviewed me. the first question she said to me was what would you tell a 30-year-old valerie jarrett? and she was 30 at the time and i thought, what an interesting question that is, and i started answering that question for the interview, and then it took me on this journey to say, well, what i would tell a 30-year-old

depends on what i learned when i was 5 and 6 and 7 and it reflects on what i learned in my adult life so it ended up being a title of my entire story. >> what are you now learning about yourself and about this country that we live in? >> it gave me a chance to reflect back and i think because i've always had one demanding job after another, i've focused on looking forward and i never really have taken a chance to take stock and see what was the cumulative effect and how did each building block build on the one before and i think there were times earlier in my career, particularly, where i didn't have a sense of direction and even i didn't understand what the ultimate path would be, and i had a rigid path that i thought i should follow. >> what was that path? >> well, i'll tell you that path was law school, practice law, fall madly in love, have a baby by 30, live happily ever after. >> check, check, check. >> check, check, check. and the only one that i really successfully checked was laura. the rest of it kind of fell apart and when it crumbled around me, i felt like a failure and it took me a while to

appreciate just because my marriage had failed and just because i didn't thrive in a law firm, didn't mean i couldn't thrive and when i began listening to that quiet voice inside of me and i started following what my passion was and it led me to public service and it led me to being a single mom and focusing on how to do that the very best i could, it led me on a journey to reflect about the lessons i've learned over the course of my life and how, in the end, it all makes sense but in the beginning, it was chaos. >> you have that quality about you that is just so beautiful and there's, i think, there's this debate in our party, and you touched on it a little bit, go low versus go high. michelle obama says when they go low, we go high. eric holder joked and said, when they go low, we should kick them. what is the valerie jarrett doctrine when it comes to this whole thing around going low versus going high? >> i think we are at our strongest as a nation when our leaders appeal to our better angels, when we focus on important character issues, core values, when we are inclusive and welcoming and as i said

earlier, it's very easy to have character and integrity and say the right things when times are easy. it's when times are tough that we have to remember, as michelle obama said last week, in front of an audience of young women and girls, she said, we are role models. the children are watching what we do. what do we want them to emulate when they grow up? and i think it should be positivity. i think it should be optimism about our country. i think it should be about inclusion and creating more opportunity, growing the pie, not fighting over crumbs of the pie, holding the ladder and your hand out, not pulling up the rungs of the ladder after you've achieved. that's what i believe our party stands for. >> there's one person who has passed character test after character test and i wonder what you think about joe biden. people have said that he might get a chance do run. you got a chance to serve with him for a long time. joe biden, is he somebody who needs to get out in this race and raise these issues? >> i think joe biden is an extraordinary public servant and

a wonderful human being and i had the privilege of working with him for eight years. it is a deeply personal decision. i wouldn't tell anybody what they should do. you have to really do your own gut check and say, do you have what it takes to get out there and put yourself on the line. >> if he says, i've got it and comes to you for counsel, how would you -- >> i would wish him well. i think he would be very effective. he'd be an extraordinary campaigner and a terrific president. >> that's great. listen, give a round of applause. we got valerie jarrett. i love it. >> thank you all. good audience. >> good audience. i want to thank you for being here. and coming up, president trump says that he is on the ballot in november. i don't know if that's accurate. but he says, i'm going to get a chance to talk an actual congressional hopeful who hopes that by embracing trump and getting trump's endorsement, he's going to get a big victory. could that strategy backfire? i don't know. but we're going to ask him when we get back. see you in a minute. i'm ken jacobus, i'm the owner of good start packaging. we distribute environmentally-friendly

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leave no room behind with xfi pods. simple. easy. awesome. click or visit a retail store today. welcome back to "the van jones show." if our next guest wins his congressional race, he's going to be the first african-american ever to represent the great state of new hampshire in congress. he's running as a republican in the granite state's first district. he's a former police chief, a navy veteran, and he has earned the backing of donald trump, president of the united states.

he is a proud conservative and he says he's tired of all the division in this country. please welcome to the van jones show, eddie edwards in the house. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> i'm glad you're here. tell me why, as somebody who's already given so much, police chief, a veteran, why are you choosing to run? >> continuous service. you know, when i look at where our country is, i want to make sure that we start to unite our country again, and i believe the best way to do that is start electing people of character, start to elect people who have actually served this nation, not from a political standpoint but from a place of commitment, sacrifice, and i think that's what it's going to take to really heal our country and bring us together. >> well, you know, the times feel divisive. >> oh, yes. >> that was what you just said is a good description of you. it doesn't always feel like a good description of the president in terms of somebody who's served, somebody who's sacrificed, all those things. how do you square that in your mind? you know that's what people are

thinking. >> this is one of the things that i think we have to really think about as a country. so, we start off on the negative. so, we don't want to pay attention to the fact that 63 million fellow americans voted for the president. they heard his message, they believed in his message, and i was one of those folks, and we voted for him. so, to dismiss the president, to attack the president is, in a sense, attacking the other 63 million fellow americans, and if we are ever to bring our country together, we have to start relationships. we have to start talk uing to o another and we can't start off on a negative tone. >> well, right now, the president's closing argument is kavanaugh and the caravan. as you're trying to figure out how to bring people together, is that your closing argument, and if your closing argument isn't kavanaugh and the caravan, what is your closing argument? >> my closing argument is this. we're all americans. we all want the same thing. we're a constitutional republic.

we believe in sacrifice. we believe in family. we believe in unity. we believe in giving back to our communities. that's what this is all about. that's what makes us different as americans. we believe in giving back to our communities and our families and i think what you start to see in this country is a great division and that division is caused by people intentionally trying to divide us, intentionally trying to divide us. i'll give you best example was this young man recently who was in the store. his backpack grazed the backside of a woman, and she said he sexually assaulted her. but what happens to that young man who's crying outside with his little sister and his mother if there's no cameras around? i think we have to be very deliberate in trying to bring our country together, not further dividing it. >> i want to talk about a couple issues because again, the way that you sound and the way that you talk is not really the way that trump sounds when he talks and so i do feel like there's -- i'm trying to figure you out. >> i'm not being attacked every day.

i'm not being attacked every day, not yet. but i think if we look at the president, and i want to go back to this because i think it's important. if the president's successful, we're successful as a nation. so, we have to respect the institution. >> if he's successful at doing positive things, we're successful as a nation. let me -- let's walk through some of these issues that are the tougher issues. i think it's good for you to underscore and i think it's healthy to underscore the desire to represent everybody and for unity and that's a good place to start and a good place to stop but there are some of these issues that are just tough. you mentioned that young guy with the backpack. do you feel like anti-black racism is still a problem in america today? >> well, i can tell you that there's no question that there are racial conflict issues around the country. but if you look at a state like new hampshire, this is why i love our state, live free or die. it's the granite state. and it's what our founders believed in and it's what our entire country was set upon is freedom. and so when i look at our state,

93% white, conservatives, moderate leaning folks in that state, lot of independent voters in that state. i was selected to be the republican nominee in a state that has 1% black population. so in our state, we don't practice that. >> so, are you saying that anti-black racism is not a problem in new hampshire? >> i'm saying there are individual people, maybe in new hampshire and perhaps across this country, but the notion that america is a racist nation, i think defies statistics and logic. >> but you don't see systemic issues when it comes to racism? >> i don't think -- i think we're closer than we realize, right? so, when i look at a -- my mother and my grandmother, women in my life who have influenced me, i raised two daughters, i have a wonderful wife. and so when i look at what they think, my mother has three boys, one girl. i know she's proud of all of us. different courses of life. but when i start to think about this and i think, what do we say

to a white mother who has white sons? what do we say to a black mother with black sons, a hispanic mother with hispanic sons. >> what do we say? >> i think we want to treat them all the same. i want my daughters to have the same opportunities as everyone else, regardless of their skin color, regardless of their sexual orientation and gender. >> let me walk through a couple issues that tend to divide. let's talk about guns. >> okay, let's talk about guns. >> so, would you repeal the brady act? would you get the federal government completely out of the gun business, yes or no? should the principal government play a role in making sure that guns are regulated? >> that's two separate questions, as you just asked me about. first, the background checks, people support background checks. before you purchase a weapon. that's fine. when people start talking about universal background checks, i think that stems into an area people don't really understand. >> help me understand something. i think a lot of progressives don't understand. there's a concern and you're afraid that i don't understand it and i don't, that somehow that if you do background checks

that you may wind up with a quote, unquote gun registry and when you say gun registry, republicans get real upset, and in my mind, i don't understand what is the fear. what is the fear that conservatives have that the federal government might have a list of who's got guns? why is that such a terrifying idea? >> let's put it this way. what's important to you? give me one thing and we keep your name on a registry. >> comic books are important to me. i'm serious. >> okay. well, we're not going to put you on a registry for that but when you have constitutionally protected rights -- >> what do you think -- >> because we restrain our government. we don't restrain citizens. this is what this is all about. we don't restrain citizens. we hold citizens accountable. we restrain our government because we can't hold our government accountable. name one time government's been held accountable for someone it's done to our citizens. >> it gets sued all the time. >> that's not accountability. we incarcerate citizens. we hold them accountable.

so we restrain government. >> i understand. >> and we protect citizens. >> that's good language, but i'm still confused. i'm not being adversarial. i'm desperately trying to understand. my show is about understanding. is the fear that, you know, if they know who has the guns, then they'll come and shoot people or arrest people and take their guns? what is it? that's in the way of a whole lot of progress, brother. >> it's no more complicated than this. we live in the united states of america. we have a constitution. your rights are protected. we restrain the government. there's no more complicated than that. and when you say to a citizen, we need to keep you on a list, we need to monitor you, our country is not set up that way. >> so it's almost like a principle -- a philosophical, almost. not like you're scared the government is going to come and grab all the guns on wednesday if they have a list. >> this is what i mean by why we don't have a common understanding. because we have to have a common understanding of the constitution. the constitution is designed to ensure that citizens and rights are protected and once we start separating that and start believing, like, well, if you don't have -- if you haven't

done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about. naps not america. >> i got one last question which i think is a question that we probably have a lot in common on which is the question of opioids. one of my very close friends died of an opioid overdose and it's killing people all over the place. >> prince. >> i know it's a big problem in your state, and we just had a big bipartisan vote to do something about it. what more needs to be done to stop this epidemic of people and not just opioids, meth and everything else that's killing people. >> absolutely. i think one of the things that we miss in this conversation is we're drugging our young people in this country. we have children growing up in this country never experiencing life without the benefit of medication in their systems. so, it becomes very easy to pop a pill, take a pill, and 75% to 80% of people who started with first-time heroin users started with a prescription drug. so we have to make sure that we're doing right by our young people, make sure that people are held accountable, make sure we go back to the pharmaceutical companies, ask them to pay, because once you're addicted to

these opiates, it's a lifelong struggle. that means taxpayers are footing the bill for that. i think we should go to the pharmaceutical companies and ask them to pay some of the cost. >> that's one thing i agree on. >> common ground. >> it shouldn't always be a battleground and this show is really about understanding, not about me trying to win the fight. i want to understand you more and i want to understand better. i want to wish you good luck in your race and when we come back, could a whole wave of military veterans running for congress as democrats be a secret weapon for the other party? we're going to see if that's true. i'm going to talk to three candidates about what's driving them to serve their country again and how they think president trump is doing as commander in chief when we get back. oh!

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veteran running in new jersey's 4th district. welcome to t"the van jones show" look, we want to just thank you for your service. so proud to have you here. why are you serving again? you've already done one of the hardest jobs you can do for the country. why put on these kind of uniforms and go back in? >> yeah, for myself, serving after 9/11, everything my friends and i sacrificed for is in jeopardy. the values, the institutions, the civil liberties and civil rights are being challenged and i think veterans and we here are running towards the fire to preserve those. >> is that why you're running? >> you know, yeah, after a lifetime of service, it really felt like the best way to continue service to my country and to new jersey was to run for office. and i have four kids, so not only am i fighting for what's going on right now, but i want to make sure that this is the country that i grew up in, that our values, our democratic

values are protected across the world and that we're really working hard for people across this country. >> why are you doing it? >> certainly, i see this as a continuation of service, but i'm also doing this because, you know, six years ago, when my vehicle hit a bomb in afghanistan, the only reason why i lived is because of the armor underneath my vehicle. congress allocated the money for that in a bipartisan manner, very quietly, they got something done. it would be nice if they could do that for much bigger problems in this country so i'm filled with optimism because i'm alive today because congress got something done. now let's get something done for roads and bridges and the opioid epidemic. >> you were passionate. you said you felt like values are being challenged. by trump? by what? what values are you concerned about being challenged? >> so, i think it's leadership and accountability in washington. this checks and balance system, we have a president that takes us backwards on the judiciary, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, 9/11 happened when i

was a senior at the naval academy. we deployed for a decade. it wasn't about republicanism or democrat. it was country over party, mission first, and this constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic and some of those enemy forces are here at home. >> wow. it's unusual for you guys to all be democrats. i'm looking at the numbers. you got 61 republican veterans in congress right now, only 19 democratic veterans. >> that's going to change pretty soon. >> well, that's the topic. but why? >> well, i think that's a relatively recent thing to have the democrat -- or the veterans coming from the republican party. because we see after world war ii, you know, it's really a broad group of veterans in our congress from both sides, and i think that's one of the reasons we're running, because the three of us feel very deeply that we need to pass good bipartisan legislation in congress and we think that some of those bridges can be built by veterans on both sides of the aisle. >> well, you know, one of the things that's going to be hard to build bridges over is this

foreign policy. you now have trump -- you guys went overseas trying to stick up for democracy and freedom and all this stuff. trump doctrine is more, we like putin. dictator. we like kim jong-un. dictator. we like the saudi family. dictators. how -- if you had the opportunity, having been elected, to go sit in the oval office and talk to president trump about this tendency to cozy up to dictators, as people who went out there and fought, what would you say? >> well, i think right now, it looks like whether you interfere in our elections or whether your kill journalists, if you tell the president privately you didn't do it, you're good to go. i think, though, that if i had a moment with this president, i wouldn't attack him like that. i would try to have a sensible conversation about how we can counter 21st century threats, not just fight the last wars, how we can get ready for cyber war, how we can reinforce nato, how we can address nuclear proliferation, but most importantly, what i think is a

great national security threat that we face today is this hypervitriol, this hyperpartisanship in washington, d.c. i'd ask him to tone it down and work with republicans and democrats a bit more. >> i think i would talk to him a little bit about my own personal experience because i was at the commander in chief of the navy european headquarters when we invaded iraq, and trying to get overflight rights and trying to get the ability to get our ships through territory waters of other countries was very difficult, and we had to move a lot of logistics into theater very rapidly, and so it's really important for us to keep those ties to our allies, to make sure that we have people at our back, to ensure that we can fight for democracy across the world at all times, and maybe express to him that also as a russian policy officer, i worked closely with russians and you know, they don't have the same agenda we do for freedom and democracy. >> we've been at war since 2001, you know, 17 years. should we get out of

afghanistan? should we get out of iraq? what is your view about this endless war? >> well, look, it was never about service to one commander in chief or one policy. we would serve president obama, president bush, now president trump, you know, i'm a reservist and you're the national guard. but what we do need to do is define what success means and we need to fund and resource that success and in afghanistan and the middle east, if other countries aren't partnering with us, we need to have the courage to say put an end to it. my commitment right now is that afghanistan we've invested a lot in. this is a country where women had acid -- young girls, nine years old, acid on their faces to go to school. we can lift that country up if we have strong partners, but we have to be fair in whether or not it justifies the means. >> we have to define the mission and we have to define success and then we have to get out of these wars. all of us are aware of mission creep and i think we see this day after day, year after year.

>> yeah. you know, this is such a tough question because it can't be -- it's a false choice, stay or go. we see in iraq, i think, that we certainly left too quickly and then we had to go back in because it's clear that there's definitely entities that are seeking out power vacuums across the globe. the question really is, how can we achieve some type of political reconciliation, some type of stabilization to allow us to leave without creating that power vacuum. and that's why i think that veterans on both sides of the aisle, people who have actually been on the ground where this is not just semantics for them, and we shouldn't just look at this as vets. i'm so proud to see all these diplomats running, cia, former cia ontiv cia operatives running. we all go to war together and we all try to stabilize countries together and it's going to be really powerful to have everyone's voice at the table to actually start to solve these problems. >> that's great. i am super excited about what you're doing and i'm also, you know, this is the year of the

women. and you're in a really cool video that i want to take a quick look at. >> come november 6th, i will continue to serve the people. the people of michigan, of pennsylvania, new jersey, kentucky. >> virginia. >> the people of texas. >> i will continue to serve the people of the united states of america. >> are you ready to serve america? >> is this going to be the year of the women? >> i know, the bruce springsteen song alone is worth watching. it's already the year of the women. we have seen more female candidates than ever in our nation's history. it's incredibly exciting and an incredibly important time for women. >> that's good. i want to hear more about that and a bunch of other issues, especially how do they think about the nfl controversy? how do they think about nancy pelosi? how do they think about all these other issues? we're going to get to all of them when we get back. ♪

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welcome back to "the van jones show." we're here with three military veterans who are running for congress and changing the face of the democratic party.

max rose, josh welley, cheryl, so many questions that i have. you guys being this new wave, nancy pelosi, should we stay where she is? i love nancy pelosi but you may see it different. >> i've been very vocal, we all have, that she should not be the leader or the speaker come 2019. >> why not? >> if you ran democrat policies against republican policies in my district without any party attached or any politicians attached, i believe certain democratic policies, especially had it comes to pro infrastructure, pro union, equitable growth, those policies would win 85% of the vote. but we've lost the trust of voters. you can't really begin that trust rebuilding process until we fully change leadership. but i think there is a sense here that potentially we're doing some type of stuff or something like that. come 2019, we'll just kind of

roll over and vote for whoever the party leadership wants us to. that's not what this is. i don't think any of us intend to break this promise to the voters. >> all of you guys are in the kind of the same position on pelosi. the other issue i think is really critical is the protest, colin kaepernick, people say by him kneeling and his concern about police brutality, et cetera, he's disrespecting our veterans. do you feel that way? >> no, i know people are on different sides of this issue, but i feel very passionately about this because i took numerous oaths to support and defend the constitution of the united states, and that involves freedom of speech. so i fought for colin kaepernick and other like him to have the right to kneel during the flag salute or to go into the locker room. that is their right and that is a right i will continue to fight for should i need to. >> i appreciate that.

there's a kind of wisdom and tough mindedness that you see with veterans, but as much as we love the lip service, we don't do much for veterans when it comes down to it. what are the veterans issues that you and other folks would take on? what do veterans need in america right now? >> i appreciate you saying that. so many of us say, go beyond thank you for your service. we need 21st century solutions for veterans. ptsd first and foremost. that leads to suicide. we have so many suicides right now with our veteran community, that so many of our friends, we personally know, who served in harm's way. homelessness is frustrating. it's hard to translate your experiences on the front line, operation iraqi freedom or afghanistan, to the corporate world. we need modern day leaders who can translate that sense of service. what i'm calling for is a type of leadership that's contemporary, impactful, and that builds bridges. our message has been country over party to get beyond

republican versus democrat and move our veteran community forward and be inclusive to as many people as possible. >> last word. >> i would love to add military sexual assault to the list of things we need to help our veterans with. as far as homelessness, homes for our veterans with children is sometimes the hardest type of housing to find for our veterans. >> we have one of the most diverse militaries in the world, so many different problems. i think your voices, if you get there, will be very, very welcome. thank you for being here, for your service, and more, to the country. good luck to all you guys in november. i am van jones. this is "the van jones show." thank you for watching. peace and love for one another. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪

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you're live in the cnn newsroom, i'm ana cabrera in new york. breaking news this hour, president trump announcing that the u.s. is pulling out of a landmark arms treaty with russia. here is the president. >> yeah, uh, russia has violated the agreement. they've been violating it for many years. and i don't know why president obama didn't negotiate or pull out. and we're not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement and go out and do weapons and we're not allowed to.