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six-million low-income people to low-cost, high-speed internet at home. i'm trying to do some homework here. so they're ready for anything. russia rhas violated the agreement. >> the turkish investigation focuses in good part on trying to locate the body of jamal khashoggi. >> we are coming over here because we want to work. we need a better life. >> you understand president trump will use the pictures of thousands of people surging to the gates against you?
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>> i think some bad people started that caravan. you have some very, very bad people in the caravan! a lot to talk about this morning. good morning. i'm in for christi paul layla santiago. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> this is frightening. dance floor collapsing here during a party. this is in clemson, south carolina. you can see the video here the people at the party trying to crawl out of this pit. >> so many questions here. let's go ahead and get straight to polo sandoval. what do we know so far? >> reporter: you see the pictures, the incredible when you find out that there were no serious injuries reported according to police there in clemson. this happening near the clemson
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university campus. 30 people sent to area hospitals when the floor at a common space there at this apartment complex essentially began to buckle and then failed into the clubhouse's basement. we are told that, again, about 30 people had to be hospitalized. this was a private party that was being held there. a group had reserved that space to hold that gathering when just after midnight, about 12:30 a.m., that is when this happened. authorities are now investigating. we should note that many happened not very far from the clemson university campus. a very busy weekend to this homecoming and, obviously, many people out and about who were celebrating their football team's victory over their rival nc state. certainly it was a very busy weekend there in and around clemson university. at this point, investigators are still trying to find out exactly what happened. the main headline and positive news after you've seen these incredible pictures, no
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life-threatening injuries and no people were trapped after the floor in that common space in an apartment complex gave out this morning. >> polo sandoval, incredible to see people crawling out of there. thanks so much. with us on the phone is jeremy tester who was at that party. jeremy, first, are you okay? and then give us an idea of what you saw. >> yeah, i'm perfectly fine. what i saw -- i was literally two feet from what happened and i saw 60 people fall straight through the floor. just crazy how it happened. >> jeremy, was there any sort of indication that this was going to happen? did you feel the floor was vulnerable or any sign that this was coming up? >> when this all came on, like, everybody was, like, jumping around. you could hear the floor about to go through and, like, like, nobody thought it was going to
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happen. they just kept going. >> we see the people fall here. injuries? was everybody conscious? how did they get out? >> i mean, it took minutes for firefighters to get there, police to get there. everybody got there that quick. i can see people, we were held there for a moment's time and i saw people holding their arms, like, i saw people with, like, body, legs, and stuff like that. >> what was on the level below that everyone fell onto? >> there were, i think a couple of pool tables and just about -- like, about a 15-foot drop. >> jeremy, i know that you shot this video. incredible. one of the things that sticks out is the sounds you hear and screams that stick with you. let me play this for our viewers and sort of walk through this one more time. >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ].
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[ screaming ] [ bleep ] whoa! >> that is chilling. not just to see but to hear. you hear the fear in the voice. the shock of people when this happens. what went through your mind in the seconds, in the minutes after the fact? at what point did this hit home of what happened jeremy, again,
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thank you. >> incredible. russia's deputy foreign minister by moving to end a longstanding nuclear agreement, the u.s. is bringing the world back to the cold war. president trump announced yesterday the u.s. will terminate the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty. the deputy foreign minister is as you might imagine demanding an explanation and is already talking about the possibility of retaliatory measures. joining me to explain why president trump wants out of the treaty is cnn's senior international correspondent frederik pleitgen. i can't imagine what the reaction must be right now for those in russia. >> reporter: it's incredibly to see how many top-level
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politicians have been commenting on this even in the very early morning hours of sunday. they are, obviously, extremely angry and concerned and saying the u.s. is trying to blackmail russia and others saying this is having catastrophic consequences for the world. the u.s. believes this agreement is no longer in its interest and is obsolete. here is what we heard. >> both sides have won, that they have moved from this dead point in the relation, which is a dangerous thing, basically, because both the united states and russia play an extremely important role in today's world and also they go to conflict. it will be a world conflict. i think it was a victory for both sides. >> reporter: there you have a top-level russian politician commenting on this. the russians are concerned about what is going on. the trump administration is
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saying the russians have been violating this treaty a long time. john bolton the national security adviser is coming over here to russia playing on a plane as we speak to have these top-level talks with the russians and the russians believe one of the messages he is going to have is that this agreement, the u.s. is going to kill it very soon. >> frederik pleitgen in moscow, thanks so much. joining me now to you take about why president trump wants out of this treaty and what it means with an intense relationship already with russia is julian zeleny. you've written about this, julian, about this treaty between the u.s. and russia. the significance of the president's decision and the justification from your estimation for ending this agreement. >> this is a treaty that came out of 1987 when gorbachev and reagan joined the process of ending the cold war. since 2014, the u.s. is arguing
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that the russians are violating the treaty. and so there were two paths. one path was to try to create international pressure so that the russians would imply once again or the other is the path we are seeing today which john bolton has been a strong supporter of and that abandoning it altogether. this opens up the potential for an arms race, both with russia and also with china. >> let's talk about what the president said yesterday offering criticism of his predecessor. here is the president. >> they have been violating it for many years and i don't know whether president obama didn't pull out. >> reporter: you mention 2014 the realization. fair criticism from president trump? >> it's not totally fair in that obama knew what was going on. again, his idea, former
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president obama, was that if you abandon it, it doesn't make the situation better so you want to try to create some kind of infrastructure to contain the russians. now all incentives go away to follow any kind of limitations. but look. many hawks, including bolton, have argued that these agreements are essentially worthless and this is counterpoint of what the obama administration stood for. >> you mentioned china. the president mentioned china. talk about their significance here. >> china has not been part of this agreement. this goes back to soviet/u.s. agreement. one of the concerns with u.s. policymakers, not simply republicans or trump administration officials, is china doesn't have to abide to this so they have been able to build up their weapon system while the u.s. can't. the problem is this strantegy points to both sides meaning
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china and the united states entering into an arms race whether an agreement to curtail the nuclears. this is what we were trying to do in the late 1980s. >> what does this mean for the broad u.s./russia relationship? >> well, instance bolton enters into russia, many hard feelings will emerge, many russians don't like him. this is a hardening of relations, at least in terms of weapons. so this is, in some ways the reverse of some of the dynamics that we have seen between president trump and putin. we are moving in two different directions within one administration. >> finally, julian, beyond the u.s. and russia and china, how do you believe that our nato allies receive this decision? >> not in a good way. they have always very much wanted this agreement to stay in place. this is always been not simply about the u.s. and russia, but
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about protecting our nato allies from these kind of intermediate range missiles, which threaten them. this is where the agreement originally stem from, the concerns of europe as much are the concerns of the u.s. they are not going to be happy with this and it will create more friction between the u.s. and nato allies which are already not in a great state. >> historian and cnn contributor, julian zeleny, good to have you this morning. >> thank you. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell was out to dirnner wih his wife when a heckler had something to say. >> leave me alone! >> dead mess! >> how did the senator react? more after the break. the migrant crisis.
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[laughter] possibilities. what we deliver by delivering. new developments this morning in the killing of a saudi journalist. president trump criticizing saudi arabia's explanation of what happened toal khashoggi. they are saying he was choked to denial after a fist-fight got out of hand in their consulate in istanbul. what else is the white house saying, sarah? >> reporter: the president visit-the-shifting his tone going from saudi arabia to describe the latest situation that khashoggi died to a fist fight gone wrong to saying the saudis have changed their
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stories several times since the weeks of khashoggkhashoggi's disappearance. the president has not spelled out what the severe punishments would like for saudi arabia. yesterday he was asked whether his administration could consider imposing sanctions against saudi arabia. here is how he answered. >> it may. i will work also with the senate, with the house. we will be working with congress because, you know, they are very involved and i wanted to keep them involved much as i did with justice kavanaugh. i wanted to cope them involved. i think it's important. >> in an interview with "the washington post," president trump stopped short of criticizing the crown prince mohammed bin salman, the young saudi leader who critics suspect of being involved in khashoggi's disappearance and asked whether president trump thought 'cha
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showi khashoggi was involved in this disappearance. here is what he had to say. >> it's possible. you don't know that but it's possible. >> reporter: the president is coming under criticism rejecting saudis' explanation here. >> sarah, thanks so. here is one more part to this story. also this morning, the fiancee of khashoggi posed a heart-felt message to him on twitter saying they took your bodily presence from my world but your beautiful laugh will remain in my soul forever. my darling. you can hear in the video that attached to the tweet, let's go ahead and take a listen.
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[ speaking in foreign language ] >> we will talk more about this story throughout the morning. senate majority leader mitchell mcconnell was out to dinner when a protester came up to him and told him to leave the country! >> leave me alone. >> dead mess. >> other people there at the restaurant came to the senate majority leader's defense. we will have more on that next. imagine traveling hassle-free with your golf clubs. now you can, with shipsticks.com! no more lugging your clubs through the airport or risk having your clubs lost or damaged by the airlines. sending your own clubs ahead with shipsticks.com makes it fast & easy to
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welcome back. i'm layla santiago in for christi paul easement i'm victor blackwell. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is the latest to be harassed while out at a restaurant. th he and his wife were at a restaurant in louisville when this happened. >> leave me alone. >> dead mess. >> oh! >> check. >> he threw their leftovers at them? i didn't know that.
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>> other people in the restaurant, you just saw them. they came to mcconnell's defense telling the man to back off while the couple had dinner. according to our affiliate wkly, one of the men threw the senator's leftovers out the door. mcconnell's office released this statement overnight saying. the leader often says the senate will not be intimidated by the end ticks of far left protesters. the restaurant regrets the incident and wants everyone to feel safe eating there. >> ahead of the midterm elections, president trump is using incidents is like the one you just saw to open a new line of attacks against democrats. watch. >> the choice for every american could not be more clear than it
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is right now. democrats produce mobs. republicans produce jobs. >> the question here -- will the message resonate with voters ahead of the mid terms? >> joining us is deputy managing editor of the weekly stand kelly jane torrance and brian stelter chief media correspondent and host of "reliable sources." we are seeing all of this happening. how will the democrats respond to this? because president trump has shown to be successful with such message i messaging. >> well, yes, layla, that is true. i have to say, first of all, there are bad people on both sides as, you know, just last week, we had nancy pelosi who was facing some anti-communist
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protesters. >> let me jump in here. we have that video. >> great, great. perfect, perfect. >> right here. >> heckling of and heckling by -- hecklining is not reserve to one party. we saw this on both sides. >> there are bad people on both sides as i just said, but it is true that i do think we are seeing a bit more of this coming from the left. now can you blame democrats for it? in many cases theory are, obviously, people on their own making these statements but you have had a couple of people, not many, but a couple of people
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encouraging such behavior. maxine waters as president trump likes to remind people saying you got to go where they live and you got to go where they eat and you can't stop. she said that in the context where the first news broke about families being separated at the border. i think a lot of people have taken that seriously. of course, the biggest leaders of the democratic party are not saying that but there are some people who are and i don't see a lot of pushback happening on that. so i think republicans do have an opportunity here to say, to blame democrats in a way. now they have to be careful that they don't do the same thing and which we saw last week with nancy pelosi. >> brian, to you. we have seen some reporters on twitter saying this should not happen, that you shouldn't attack people, shout at people, heck le in public. an interesting exchange on twitter and he says that yelling at elected official in public is
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protected first amendment speech. what is your take on that? >> i think a provoking point by wesley lowery. they are saying bring the temperature down and try to be civil. i think the problem with the core of this conversation is that we are living through an age of incivility led by president trump. he is anything but civil. certainly he was not calling out the tea party off other conservative groups engaged in protesting a number of years ago and now it's convenient for him to call out left wing protesters and that is logical and of course, he is going to do that. the problem for the democrats is that there is no person with equal stature. nobody as loud or effective as president trump to puck back on his jobs not mobs rhetoric.
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it's also propaganda and he'll say it over and over again until election day. i think an effective slogan but not to counter him on the other side as loud as press trump. we are seeing examples of this extreme behavior on both sides. we remember that incident with sarah sanders at the restaurant and ted cruz was confronted at a restaurant and mcconnell here at the restaurant. on the other side you have nancy pelosi being shouted at by protesters. so there is a lot of this to go around and nobody's yard is clean. right? if you're a neighbor and you've got a neighbor whos yard is really dirty you have more comble credible of criticizing them if their yard is clean but nobody's yard is clean in this situation. i think that is the fundamental problem. >> you're saying there is no one on the other side but if it had to be, who is powerful enough? who has the voice to take on the mobs not jobs 16 days before
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midterms? >> i still think barack obama has so much political capital and so much goodwill on the left. he is the most powerful communicator the democrat irparty has and actually barack and michelle obama are the most communicators that the democrats have. right now, others don't seem to be trying so hard to do so trump has the stage almost all to himself. i think keep lowery's point in mind. for the most part what we are seeing this is legal attempts to express grievances by the public. sometimes it is not pretty at all but most of the time it's legal and part of the amphetamifirst amendment he draws the line at legal. also a message from conceive scalise who we know was shot during a congressional baseball practice in the morning and he tweeted this.
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he, of course, knows better than most how this can escalate. >> exactly, victory. i have to say, i mean, harassing a 76-year-old man while he is eating his dinner is this petitioning your elected officials? i don't think so. i watch the video a few times -- >> i think it is, yes. legal definition of -- >> i watched the video a few times. i didn't hear this guy talking about any issues. i said mostly why don't you leave the country, why are you here? go away. some of the stuff, yes. i think you should be able to let politicians know how you feel but yelling at people, you know, just to name things while they are eating dinner, i don't think that is the way to go. i have to say one of the things i don't like about this environment is everything now is so political. of course, politics is my life. it's what i focus on.
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but politics should not be the only thing that human beings talk about and worry about and i think there should be a safe space and so to speak when you're in your private life that you can go out and have dinner. i was impressed by the other patrons telling this guy, come on, give it a rest. the last point i want to make it nikki haley i thought made great comments last week our political opponents are not evil, they are our opponents. >> thank you both for that. brian, i heard you chime in there and say that this actually is petitioning one's elected officials so i want to make sure that while there was cross-talk we heard that point too. thank you both. >> thank you. it is the race for florida's governor that no one predicted. republican ron de santos and democratic gillicandidate gilli
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now to the migrant crisis in central america. a potentially deadly caravan situation unfolding saturday along the guatemala/honduras border. big rigs were hijacked and tried to leave the country by speeding plu a poli through a police fence. >> the other people had to jump out of the way. some fell onto the pavement
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there. both men were caught and charged with attempted homicide. while authorities try to manage the crisis along the bridge, the guatemala/mexico border, officials in honduras say thousands of migrants have just returned home. >> the honduran foreign minister said 200 people have been deported and 400 more on the way back. honduras president promised those who return they will be offered jobs and other type of aid when they get home. we really can't ignore the overwhelming images of the thousands of migrants packed on that bridge. that bridge connecting mexico and guatemala. the mexican government is reporting 640 migrants have requested asylum. we have our reporter there on the border with guatemala. many having nothing but the
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clothes on their back as they try to escape poverty back home. >> reporter: some crossed into mexico from guatemala by boat. others waited. or swam, just barely. the thousands of migrants, mostly people from honduras, were fleeing poverty and violence. many are looking to reunite with loved ones. brian came across the river in a boat a week after being deported to his native honduras from the u.s. where he had lived most of his life and left behind a wife and daughter. why do you need to get back? >> my daughter. you know? that's the first thing, you know? i didn't have my dad when i was a kid, you know, at all. i don't want the same for her. >> reporter: on friday, mexican police stopped the 4,000 strong caravan of migrants dead on their tracks on a bridge that joins mexico and guatemala. the bridge came a holding cell. one without bathrooms or water or mercy from the brutal sun
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with a crush of migrants waited to see if they would be allowed to pass. finally, people like this person who is traveling with her three children couldn't ka take it any more. the truth is we are all going to jump in the river and keep going forward. mexican police watched as the migrants took to the river but this time didn't try to stop them. this is what desperation has driven the people to. they were not able to cross the bridge so now coming over on rafts heavily loaded and some with small kids, carrying all they have on their back and now they are going to get off here and finally on the mexican side and continue the journey north to the united states. maria fled the violence of honduras eight years ago and she has come to the river to see if her son will cross here. he was in the caravan and his cell phone died a day ago. now she can't reach him. i'm worried because he told me to wait for him by the river, she says, until he comes, i will stay here.
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after a week traveling, many of these migrants are out of money and hope is fading but they say they have no choice but to continue on. mexican authorities have not said whether anyone from that caravan will be allowed to travel to the u.s. border. >> if they do, if they do, president trump warns he'll do two things and cut some aid to some countries in central america and deploy the u.s. military. >> i think some bad people started that caravan. maybe or almost more importantly you have bad people in the caravan. you have some tough criminal elements within the caravan. i will seal off the border until i seal off this country. i will bring in our military. not our reserves. >> mexico is cooperating with the u.s. to try to find a
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suitable solution but the u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo called it an effort to violate the soften sovereignty of america. still to come, voters in georgia, in one county, they are specifically saying they are being disenfranchised after the ballots were tossed out there. more ahead on that. ♪
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there are mounting lawsuits in a georgia, gwinnett county. they threw out ballots weeks before the mid terms. drew yivgriffin has the story. >> reporter: she had no idea her
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ballot was rejected until in any called her. >> i would not have known. >> reporter: you would the no have voted in this election? >> no. >> reporter: how do you feel about that? >> it was very disappointing because i thought surely another way or a way to come indicated to me that my vote was rejected or my ballot was rejected. i wasn't informed. >> reporter: so after we told her about her rejected ballot, she called the gwinnett county elections office and found out it was her signature that didn't match her voter registration card. >> maybe i didn't sign the same way i normally do. i don't know. but that just signature should not prevent one from voting. >> reporter: sherri ann's absentee ballot was disqualified for the same reason. she did get a notice. does that make sense? >> i lived in georgia 17 years and filled out my voter registration card and said that could be. >> reporter: she called the elections office and they told her her letters were too close
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together. >> i didn't have separation. >> you didn't have separation? >> reporter: that's what she told me. >> sounds like something you'd hear in second grade. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: cnn found walters and mcclellan and 593 other rejected absentee voters on a website where they keep a tally. not all of the voters we called knew their ballots had been tossed. right now, i'm humid said carol hutchinson who wanted to make sure you knew she was republican. her ballot was thrown out because of her year of birth missing and one rejected because of insufficient oath information. she was not aware of this and said i have no idea why it would have been rejected. three others called by cnn say they were notified about mistakes on their ballots which they admitted to and were given new ballots. it's up to county elections officials to decide if absentee ballots are accepted and
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gwinnett county told cnn the handling of absentee ballot applications and the acceptance and rejections by ballots by gwinnett county has implicompli with the law and continue to do so. a county spokesperson refused to say much else but it appears gwinnett has a much stricter interpretation to the law than other georgia counties and each more troubling is a racial disparity in ballots rejected. a poll shows that it accounts for more than a third of all the rejections in the entire state. while the lawsuits did not alleged a deliberate attempt at discrimination, the results, according to an analysis, done by a university of florida political scientist show black voters in gwinnett are more than twice as likely as a white person to have their absentee ballot rejected if you're asian, rejection is more than three times more likely.
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racist, disenfranchising? yes says kristen clark with the lawyers commit for civil rights under law. >> there is no other explanation but race that could explain this kind of outcome. >> reporter: clark's group and the two lawsuits are demanding gwinnett county and the state of georgia promptly notify voters their ballots were rejected, provide extra time and no longer reject ballots for sloppy signatures. >> when we see racial disparities like this, they set off red flags and, sadly, this is a pattern that we are seeing across georgia this election cycle, we are seeing policies and practices being implemented in ways that bear more heavily on minority voters across the state. >> reporter: georgia's republican secretary of state brian kemp who is running for governor, has been calling reports of voter suppression politically driven rallying points for his democratic opponent. his office poise to record
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numbers of georgians registered to vote and across georgia early voting has already begun. walters doesn't know what to believe. the reason she wanted to vote absentee sh ee absentee, she is a poll worker and will be working when everybody else is voting. >> you should do whatever it is in your power to make sure the person should vote. you should exhaust every resource system to make sure every person will vote. >> drew driven, cnn, lawrenceville, georgia. >> a reminder, we are only 16 days from the midterm elections. get your tickets. you now have not one, but two chances to win a big lotto jackpot. more coming up. new theraflu powerpods. the cold and flu fighting machine. you put in your machine. press the button to brew up powerful relief. to defeat your toughest cold and flu symptoms fast. new theraflu powerpods. press. sip. relief.
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many veterans have trouble getting the support they need after they leave the military. this week's cnn hero has created a way to help meet army combat veteran chris stout. >> what branch are you? >> after starting to work with veterans, i realized a huge gap in services. if you've ever served you know that if one of your fellow platoon guys they need help, you help them. what we do here gives them an opportunity to kind of get stable, keeps them safe and secure place. and then fix what got them there in the first place. >> important stuff there. to find out more about this program, go to cnnheroes.com. we have all kinds of money to win out there. >> is there? >> all kinds.
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nobody won last night's jackpot which means, listen. between powerball and the megamillions, there is now more than $2 billion between just these two contests alone. >> right now, the megamillions jackpot is tied for the biggest in lottery history at $1.6 billion. it will likely -- before tuesday's drawings so keep your expectations in check, the chances of matching all six numbers, 1 in 302.5 million! so you're saying there is a chance? >> i think all six and the powerball that $302.5 million. if you get the six numbers it's still a good chunk of change. >> not so easy, though. russia has violated the agreement. we are not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement so
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we are going to terminate the agreement and we are going to pull out. >> the turkish investigation here does focus in good part on trying to locate the body of jamal khashoggi. >> i'm not satisfied until we find the answer but i want to get the answer. >> we are not criminals! we are coming over here because we want to work. we need a job. we need a better life. >> you understand president trump will use the pictures of thousands of people surging to the gates against you? >> i think some bad people started that caravan. you have some very, very bad people in the caravan! good sunday morning to you. i'm layla santiago in for christi paul today. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. [ bleep ] [ ble ]

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