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welcome to inside politics. thank you for sharing your day with us. turkey's president said saudi arabia is lying and lays out what he said is proof the royal family was in on a calculated plot to murder a dissident journalist. welcome to iowa.
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kamala harris. the california democrat is there making a big 2018 push and hoping to make a lasting impression like another freshman senator, a decade ago. two weeks from today, america votes and remains competitive. fresh proof the president is willing to lie and race bait in his campaign appeals. >> you know how the caravan started? does everyone know what this means? i think the democrats had something to do with it and now they are saying i think we made a big mistake. >> going to the middle of the caravan and take your cameras and search. you are going to find ms 13. you are going to find middle eastern. you are going to find everything. >> today we are two weeks out from election day and the president is doubling down. evidence-free fears about a migrant caravan.
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as new numbers do show a remarkablily close mid-term competition. two weeks out, this is how cnn rates it. 206 lean likely or solid for the democra democrats. 201 lean likely or solid for the republicans. look at the new numbers. this is just choice for congress battle ground districts. this is "the washington post" polling. look how close this is. this is just key battle ground districts, but look at this. points. now three points. statistically that is insignificant. it's not a huge edge. what the democrats have been hoping would be a big blue wave. still democrats favored for the house, but hand to hand combat. republicans favored to hold the senate in part because of the kavanaugh effect. this is not just republicans. they found 6 n 10 americans across both parties said they are more motivated because of the confirmation battle.
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for four in 10, it didn't make that much of a difference. 2% said they are less motivated. when you look at the house, democrats said they have the advantage. in the senate, they think the kavanaugh effect will have an impact. the key races are in republican-leaning states. democrats hoping to hold montana. the president has been out there twice. he may go back. the kavanaugh effect works better in these states in the western senate races that they need to flip or in the case of nevada and arizona, hold on. that's the stay to play. on the road, the president is talking up immigration and a tax cut plan that simply doesn't exist. he said the caravan has gang members. maybe middle eastern terrorists. the vice president is saying of course the president is right. >> it's inconceivable that there are not people of middle eastern
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descent in a crowd advancing towards our border. we apprehended more than 10 terrorists or suspected terrorists per day at the southern border from countries referred to in the lexicon as other than mexico. that means from the middle east region. >> with me to share the reporting and the insights, the associated press. bloomberg, times and politico. the vice president of the united states there twisting or taking out of context the government ta stiftices like the white house press secretary sarah sanders did yesterday. if you call other agencies and say do you have evidence there are terrorists and isis sympathizers, they say no or we'll get back to you. >> it's blatant what the president and vice president are doing.
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they are trying to play on fears that trump's base has of terrorists. they are trying to play on fears that even beyond that, that trump's base has people of middle eastern descent. he is saying if you are middle eastern, you are somehow bad. someone to be scared of and they are people from the middle east rushing across the border. it's not a secret i think what their strategy is. it is not based in any fact. it is not based in any statistics we have. people on the ground and traveling with the caravan have no evidence to back up what they are doing. it's strategic on the part of this president and vice president. they know this resonates with trump's base, regardless of whether it's factual or not. >> this is the president turning back to the issues that won him the 2016 election. mexican rapists and the muslim ban. the president is not a tremendously versatile politicians, but it works for him. he is going back to it for the
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mid-terms. >> it's a smorgasbord and all the things you should be afraid of. ms 13 and gang members and middle easterners and terrorists. one thing i want to tackle. he is connecting this to illegal immigration. these are people who by all indications want to ask for asylum. they are allowed to do that under the law. that's different than people coming here illegally. the population has been flat for about a decade. that has not changed regardless of what he is saying. there are about 5,000 of them and 92,000 in 2016. that's a real issue. most of them don't get approval. this is a genuine issue. the president is turning it into something. >>. >> huh a thoughtful fact-filled presentation of what will happen and could happen. those who try to get into the country legally. that's not what the president is doing. he is saying they are gang members and there could be middle eastern terrorist there
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is, too. number one. and number two, those are both lies. is it possible there are a few gang members? yes. defend our border. find those people when they apply for applications. they are days away and the president said they are banging on the door. >> it is just as possible that this inspires more people to vote against the president than vote for him. the president believes that these are the issues that resonate with his voters, but do they resonate with the electorate and motivate the republican base more than others? we don't know and we will find out in a couple of weeks. >> they speak for the strategy of what it has to be. we have seen post kavanaugh a tightening on the senate side and a bit on the house side, but republican strategists said one group they have not seen is college educated women in the suburbs. that group is gone for republicans. if they are going to offset the
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loss of that group, it is going to be by energizing trump's base. trump knows the playbook for doing that. >> the other choice, he is taking the dark path. what about record low unemployment and a booming economy. you could make the case thats president has a positive case and he has not tried to make it. we talked about race baiting when it comes to the caravan and trying to scare people and the mythical tax cut. he said congress was coming back and the middle class was getting a tax cut before the november election. uh-huh. he changed that a little bit, saying it's in process and going to come soon. listen to larry kudlow saying we are working on it. >> regarding the president's new proposal, the reduction for middle class families. it's doable. we are working through it. do we want to go further? wait and see. it may not surface for a while,
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but that's his goal. i don't see anything wrong with that. >> he doesn't see anything wrong with lying to people. i'm sorry, the president lied saying congress was working on a plan and is coming back before the election. he lied and said we will get to it eventually. if the current congress were in session today, could they pass a 10% tax cut? >> no, no, and no. they could maybe pass it through the house. not through the senate. democrats are not going to be on board with this. his a recognition that the president recognizes that the good economy is not going to save his party. they didn't save the democrats in 2014 and save the democrats in 1994. the economy is mostly irrelevant and that the tax law which was their signature achievement and was supposed to be the key thing has been a political flop. the super pacs are not running on it.
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the biggest spender has been about the tax law. they recognize it's not working and they are trying for the same issue. >> i don't know if it makes you laugh or cry. the president's advisers and the communications director said they are calling him a liar. it worked in 2016. get over it. >> when you guys are upset about it and listing all the lies and trying to explain you can't get a tax cut done in 10 days, people are happy about the fact that he is a wrecking ball inside of washington and smashing into this. >> if you want to beat the president, exposing his lies or explaining them to people is not going to beat the president. there is symbolism here. you can call out the lying, but it's literally teflon in a frying pan. >> you listen to that and it's stunning. he does not dispute the president is lying. he said on several occasions the
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president is lying. the president thinks you are stupid. the president thinks people are stupid. >> he thinks people don't care and he is correct that i would venture that the majority of the electorate did not think that then private citizen donald trump is a mostly truthful person and many of them voted for him anyway. i think it is baked into the character and temperament that they made of this president that he has a loose relationship with the truth and another thing he did in 2016 was promise the moon and the stars without regard for whether it was doable. he promised the opposite and everyone believes he is on their side because he promised contradictory and impossible things and never had a problem with that and always bet, probably correctly, that the american people are so cynical about politics and politicians, he believes that everybody lies and all that matters is how it makes you feel. >> molly is exactly right.
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i don't think anthony is wrong. i don't think most voters thought donald trump was truthful and they think he is dishonest and unethical, but they like that he knocks other politicians in the teeth and appreciate his attitude, even though they think he's a relatively disgusting person. >> it helped him in 2016 because his opponent was scored as dishonest. this time he doesn't have the one to one. >> he has the title now. he did not have the title. hillary clinton was the washington insider. we will see. kamala harris takes her message to the midwest. the institute on the importance of voting in the mid-terms with a familiar voice. >> we stand for truth against falsehood and right against injustice and hope against despair. >> i believe we must always stand up for it.
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. senator kamala harris is urging voters to head to the polls. it's a 2018 trip and a 2020 test run. >> we know the stakes are high. we know elections matter. because, you know, hey, don't hate the player, hate the game. you are not going to vote for health care for everybody? we are going to vote you out of office. you look at the unemployment numbers. well, yeah, okay. people are working. they are working two and three jobs to pay their bills. the economy ain't working for working people. >> cnn in cedar falls, iowa. they have an early voting rally. she is trying to make a big
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first impression. how is it going? >> it has been going really well so far. she is speaking to a small group of voter who is gathered here to talk to her about early vote. their concerns. she has really gotten a rock star reception last night in des moines. they were moving towards her in a human crush. the other candidates have been coming through as well. cory booker and there has been a warm response there for them as well. they haven't seen reception like that yet. john? >> out in cedar falls, we will let you watch the event. keep in touch to bring it in the room. one of 50 candidates for president. this is a time-honored ritual.
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this is an interesting candidate to watch. you have an african-american senator trying to make a good impression like barack obama did a decade ago. they are moving up the california primary. they will start early voting in 2020 about when iowa is voting. some of these others are thinking about it. she is more than thinking about it. >> obviously. this is the road test. all of those things are only on paper. what the voters want to know is what is she actually like. that's the case for all of the candidates. camera harris has a lot of fans, but few have ever seen her outside the context of a committee hearing. what is she like when she's giving a speech. does she inspire me and have a platform that resonates with me? i was thinking back to anthony
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scaramucci. we are not in the business of beating trump. that's the democrats. if you want to beat trump, don't just stand there calling him a liar. he is probably right about that. you see them trying different messages to convince the voters that they are the best to take on trump. what is going to matter to the democratic base is can you win? >> one of the reasons kamala harris is the to watch is minorities have been formidable starting with the nomination and election of barack obama a decade ago. they had major victories and cortez in new york and stacy abrams in georgia and andrew gillum in florida. you nominated a bunch of white candidates and it hasn't worked out well. on an issue level, it will be very difficult for any democrat to claim the populism when elizabeth warren is there. he has been writing books on the shrinking middle class for
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decades. i was assigned one of them in college. kamala harris can be formidable on things like civil rights and the treatment of immigrants. she has a record of prosecution in california and people on the left will talk about criticism in terms of whether banks will let off too easy if foreclosure. >> to the can you win point against trump who if democrats haven't figured it out. he knows what he's doing, whether you agree or disagree. testing a theme you are likely to hear a lot more of. >> this is a moment in time that is requiring each of us collectively as a country to look in a mirror and ask a question. the question is, who are we? i believe that part of the answer to that question is, we are better than this. we are better than this.
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>> the incumbent president is saying i am a nationalist. democrats are trying to figure out how to counter that. i don't say this dismissively, but there are 40 or 50 of them thinking about it. 20 may end up running in the end. that's the competition. >> what's going to be challenging is what you heard elizabeth warren and cory booker say is not that different from what hillary clinton and barack obama were saying. was clinton a perfect messenger? certainly not, but can they go back to that message or do they have to do an aspect trump message. some of this will play out in the course of the primary. what you get if you defeat trump is a challenge. >> no, i think that goes back to the point that these candidates can be qualified on paper, but
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that message can resonate differently based on the personal qualities of the candidate which we can often overlook. hillary clinton was qualify and barack obama may have been unqualified, but the messages resonated differently. donald trump was case in point. he dismissed when he came down the escalator in trump tower, he is the most unqualified president in the nation's history and when he started going out and giving campaign rallies, he got a reception that was unexpected by establish forces from think tankers to reporters to academics. it carried him it to the presidency. >> 194 years in that republican field. you are exactly right. don't think the rules apply or don't think what you think will play out tomorrow. president trump said to be feeling angry with the saudis. skeptical of the turks. where will he land as the investigation of the murder of jamal khashoggi continues.
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khashoggi was killed accidentally. president erdogan claims the disconnected security cameras the day of his appointment at the saudi consulate in istanbul. the turkish president said any attempt to cover up what happened is the insult to the conscious of humanity. listen to mike pence. the saudis say one thing, the turks say another and the vice president insists the united states wants the truth. >> the word from president erdogan this morning that this brutal murder was premeditated, preplanned days in advance flies in the face of earlier assertions that had been made by the saudi regime. it underscores the determination to find out what happened here. the world is watching. the american people want answers. we will demand those answers are forth coming. that from the vice president seems more focused, concentrated
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and cautious. they say this, they say this, we will get to the truth. then the president has been all over the place. >> that are seems like more what you expect to hear from an american administration and it does speak to the fact that there are so many different versions of events here. the saudis have been changing their versions of events going from we know nothing about this to this was a fist fight over the last couple of weeks. it put the u.s. in a difficult position. turkey is a nato ally, but not a perfect partner. not on issues when it comes to treatment of journalists. there is a reluctance on the part of this administration to just go with what the turks's account of this has been. the saudis are not doing their friends in the white house any favors by the way they have been changing their story. >> the president has been openly skeptical aft turks. he said he still thinks this is a plot gone a wry. that accepts the saudi
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explanation that we knew he was coming. maybe we were going to interrogate him, but we didn't plan on killing him. the president said this. trump questioned the validity of at least detail. turkish officials said his body was cut by a bone saw. trump sounded incredulous. do you know there was a bone saw, he repliereplied? whatever he truly believes, he is trying to get to a place where he doesn't have to do too much punishment because he wants to maintain the relationship. >> that's obvious. on the communications front, this is a case in point at the way this administration navigates issues both simple and complex and it takes them about a week, if not more, to get to a consistent message. who knows if pence's message will be the they stick with. that properties a difficulty in covering the administration and figuring out where they stand on issues. at times the officials are at
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odds with each other. are we going to see top officials diverge from where the president is? pence is the first we are seeing of that. >> both the turks and the saudis have been playing a risky game here. the challenge for the turks was going to be they made strong assertions early on about the evidence they had, claiming it was iron-clad. they have to show that's actually the case or else it is going to look like they had an ax to grind. for the saudis, it hub puzzling they make such easily falsified claims about what happened. claiming he left the consulate when they had to know the information was going to come out to the contrary. that was going to jeopardize the relationship with washington even more because as you reported, trump is then going to feel betrayed by having been lied to. >> the saudis are accustomed to buy their version of the truth.
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what i don't understand to their point about the administration, the treasury secretary decided to go ahead with the trip to saudi arabia. he did not go to the conference. he did. he was asked for a meeting with the crown prince. no reason why not. the crown prince wants to talk to you, but why allow the saudis to do this? the foreign ministry in the middle where the world is trying to push the saudis and isolate the saudis and demand truthful answers, why allow this propaganda ploy of the crown prince. we will meet with you, but no photos, period. why? >> they are wrestling with how to go about this and the president made a shift in his rhetoric which seemed to indicate a president who wanted to get to yes and find a reason to accept their version of events and continue with his relationship that the white house put a lot of stock in. the facts are piling up and the
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evidence is piling up and the turks seem adamant that saudi arabia was involved. there was video of a body double walking out in jamal khashoggi's clothes. that's a powerful piece of evidence that this was a premeditated and planned murder. he said this caught the imagination of the world, unfortunately. >> unfortunately. prefer not to have this to deal with. >> he would prefer not to have this problem because he thinks the relationship with saudi arabia helps the u.s. on both the counter terrorism front and the economic front and for him both of those take priority over human rights, over democratic values. >> when we come back, the president said the white house is a well-oiled machine. the heated altercation that turned physical just outside the president's office. details on that dust up in a moment. cal: we saved our money and now, we get to spend it - our way.
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topping the radar, big losses on wall street fuelled by the trade war with china. the dow industrial is down. 317 points right now after more disappointing earnings reports from 3 m and caterpillar. investors fear impact over the president's steel and aluminum tariffs. harley davidson fell after reporting a 13% drop in u.s. sales. president trump could have another meeting with his russian counterpart weeks from now during talks in moscow. john bolton was told it would be useful to continue direct dialogue with the president. both leaders are in paris for
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world war i commemorations. two sources confirm that the former presidential campaign manager almost came to blows in a heated argument in the west wing in february. the "new york times" first reported the story and said secret service agents want to intervene after he was grabbed by the collar. kelly wanted him removed from the building after a meeting with the president. in georgia, a 1992 photo surfaces that could affect the governor's race before the candidate's favorite debate. the photo shows the nominee stacy abrams burning the state flag. she acknowledges she took part in a peaceful protest that led to the emblem's removal. a battery lawsuit against senator david pure due. a college student complains the senator grabs his phone after the opportunity asked a pointed question about that race.
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he took the phone because he thought the student wanted a selfie with him. and sad news about retired supreme court justice sandra day o'connor. she revealed she is in the early stages of dementia, most likely alzheimer's disease. she made history as the country's first female supreme court justice. she talked about how she was on the shortest of short list when president reagan went looking for his nominee. >> because president reagan indicated during his campaign if he had a chance, he would like to put a qualified woman on the supreme court. attorney general smith again collecting a few names, his list was pretty short. there weren't many women judges and there were even fewer republican women judges. his list was pretty short. he kept it under his telephone at the department of justice. sure enough, there was a vacancy and william smith put out his
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pitiful list and there i was. i ended up on the court. >> sad news. delightful and humorous person in addition being a history maker and a trailblazer on the court. i had a chance to bump into her on trips and she was a delight. just wonderful. >> also the author of a children's book that my children had and i tried to read to them, but she did not miss her calling. there were too many words. she was a much better judge than author. >> the last real swing vote. she looked for middle ground and sided with the left a lot and with the right a lot. anthony kennedy talked about the median vote. he is mostly conservative on a wrath of issues and has quirky views on abortion and gay rights, but she was conscious of public opinion and found a middle ground. she was replaced with samuel alito who reversed decisions she
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made. >> she loved arizona. we wish her the best. up next, president trump making more changes to health care. is he keeping his promise to protect those who have protect those who have preexisting conditions?
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>> welcome back. two weeks left in campaign 2018. a big parallel to 2014 and 2010. obamacare, health care was a huge issue and so it is this year. look at this poll. obamacare is popular. 53% have a favorable opinion. that makes the argument better, they think and complicates things for republicans. obamacare's approval spiked in october 2017. back then it was low. plus 11 for obamacare heading into a mid-term election year in which the democrats want to talk about health care. look at the numbers among
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republican voters. older voters and independence. what's more important to you? preexisting continues or a government take over. preexisting conditions. that's a big concern for people, more so than the idea that gives the democrats power. another thing that democrats like to say when republicans say we are all for protecting you if you have preexisting conditions, all these states with republican governors are suing to get rid of obamacare. the president is mindful of the democratic arguments and said the democrats are lying. republicans will protect your health care. >> republicans want to protect medicare for our great seniors who have earned it and who have paid for it for a long time. and republicans will always protect americans with preexisting conditions. we protect you. preexisting conditions.
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right? >> now president trump has not gotten rid of obamacare as he promised, but he revealed the individual mandate penalty and slowly giving states more power. starting this week, states can apply for waivers to create and fund alternatives. the senate minority leader said they admitted the intention is to use taxpayer dollars to fund junk experience plans. that could lead to medical bankruptcy to pad the pockets of executives. is that right? let's get to the bottom of all of that. joining us from new york, who do these changes help and hurt? >> one of the most important things that this new waiver rule is going to do is allow states to let people buy coverage with the obamacare subsidies. this coverage will be short-term plans. it could be short-term plans.
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this is what schumer is calling junk insurance. the plans that last less than a year may be attractive to people who are younger and healthier who have lower premiums and don't offer a lot of benefits. that's how they could hurt people who are older who have preexisting conditions. the short-term plans can can deny coverage or charge more based on medical histories and they don't have to offer all of the comprehensive policies. the fear is that if all of these healthy people are moving to short-term plans and exchanges are left with people who are older and sicker, the premiums will go up and it makes obamacare policies less affordable. the bottom line is that he said he is protecting people with preexisting conditions. is he? >> no.
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his justice department is arguing these protections should be invalidated as part of a lawsuit that republican attorneys general have brought in texas. the attorneys general argue that the entira aca law should be invalidated because of congress repealing the individual mand e mandate. the justice department could have defended the law, but they are not. what are they arguing? they are arguing that these very protections for people with preexisting conditions are no longer valid. >> appreciate the actual facts and policy in the middle of a campaign debate that often veers away. democrats want this to be the defining issue. if you go race to race, the tv ads have been on television. they talk about the economy and health care high up. can democrats close the sale? their argument is this president and this party, the republicans want to throw obamacare away and
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they don't care about you. the republicans say yes, we do, but not this way. >> it is striking and remarkable that you see the democrats and the republicans making the same claim, making the same argument. what it tells you is they have seen a lot of polls like this one. this is what people are concerned b. both democrats and republicans claim they are the ones who protect preexisting conditions. the republicans are scrambling to do everything they can to reassure voters and they are talking about it as much as the democrats because they know what a concern this is for voters. i think beyond the nitty-gritty of the policy which is important, none of this happened yet. it's all hype thed cal for people. something that can help the next time they have the opportunity to buy insurance. what's going to matter is who do voters believe is going to protect their health care and who do they think have more of a priority and polls have shown that the democrats have an edge
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on that claim. >> what is the timing for the administration to put out this move two weeks before the election when president trump is traveling the country and want to protect people with preexisting conditions. what they would allow is to create a parallel market for insurance plans that don't have to abide by the community rating and covering a minimum set of benefits. they will be able to use subsidies which is a huge incentive. the administration attacked the rules from a legislative standpoint and regulatory and a court standpoint. they have an argument to make and it plays into their hands. >> the lawsuit makes it difficult for the candidates and some like a scott walker who said i will protect the preexisting conditions. why don't you pull your state out of the lawsuit? they are in the position with a tough argument. >> joe manchin found what works
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in the reddest of states. >> republicans have moderated their rhetoric and positions on the issue of entitlements. donald trump i think his victory in the election based on his campaign rhetoric and i'm not taking anything away from anybody, it showed conservatives that cutting entitlements was not as compelling to the base voters as they had seen. you saw that during the obamacare repeal where a lot of republicans got skiddish because they realized trump campaigned on this and it was compelling. the voters did not want a repeal and think republicans rhetoric on this is reflected in the mid-term campaign. >> this is new york 19. one of many races and the republican-held district. republicans want to take it away. that's the flash point. >> he broke his promise to protect people with preexisting conditions. faso broke his promise to seniors, too. he took thousands from
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experience interest and voted to let them raise prices on older new yorkers price. what is delgado hiding? he wants to eliminate employer-paid coverage, forcing us all into a government system, putting washington bureaucrats in charge. >> it's good to have campaigns that are not about policy, if when it's over, they follow that and say this issue was litigated, this is what the people want. naive of me? >> in the next two years, we will bebarelying ibarrelling. >> democrats ran from obamacare and they give it a hug this time. see you back here this time tomorrow. wolf starts after a quick break.
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