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be more. >> the light at the end of the tunnel is the more packages they send, the more likely we will find them faster, right? every package there is fingerprints and possibility of dna. there is more and more evidence on every package. >> we begin there, tracking the breaking news. authorities have found a total of 10 suspected pipe bombs concealed in mailing packages addressed to prominent democrat. one addressed to joe biden recovered in separate delaware post offices. investigators have been trying to locate one yesterday. after they believe it was circulating somewhere in the mail system. another in lower manhattan and address to robert de niro. it's similar to the others discovered. all 10 intended to reach high
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profile targets, likely intended to assassinate or intimidate barack obama, bill clinton, maxine waters, donor george soros. if you get that nagging feeling something doesn't feel right, don't ignore it. >> everyday people can be part of the solution here. we need to be vigilant and recognize that anything suspicious, don't explain it away or think maybe it's not a big deal. if you think a package is suspicious, call the authorities immediately. protect yourself and everyone around you by being vigilant. that can be part of how we find the prerp traitors and the information time and time again. that wins the day. >> where are weave in this
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investigation? >> we are up to 10 packages. overnight the postal skefrs wers scrambling to find a package addressed to joe biden. this morning we found out from the fbi that they did identify two separate packages addressed to joe biden. one appeared that there was an attempt to return to sender back to the same sending address at debbie wassermann schultz in florida. what the authorities were able to do is track down the two packages, both in the wilmington area. newcastle and wilmington. the authorities have now removed the two packages. they believe it's safe enough for the two locations to be declared safe. you can see the reaction that was spreading today, especially because the day began with a call from robert de niro's
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production company and a security officer fountain envelope that matched exactly like the other ones we have seen and called the police and new york police department was able to remove that device. it looked exactly like the others we have seen. they did an x-ray and they found what looked like the same type of device. that one is being examined by the fbi. the fbi has taken over this investigation and treating it as a domestic terror investigation and everything as the mayor said in the video you just played, everything is a clue. everything from the envelopes and from where the postal markings from where these items were shipped from. every one of the things is going bring the fbi closer to finding out who is doing this. i will give you a quick hint. back in march, there was a series of bombings in texas in the austin area. one of the key thing that is the fbi and atf were able to do is go to surveillance video and
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found video of this man who was dropping off the packages and they matched his cell phone and found dna. all of this was able to be done over the period of 18 days before they were able to solve that series of bombings. i think that's what they are trying to do here. >> evan perez with the latest on the investigation. appreciate the reporting. joining me to share the reporting and the expertise, the fbi agent, raymond lopez from the u.s. marshal's office and assistant secretary of homeland security and mary ellen, let me start with you. based on what we know about the packages and everybody has been targeted so far criticized the president of the united states. if there is a preliminary profile sheet this morning, who are they looking for? >> well, preliminarily, they are looking for someone that planned this out very well. that means someone that didn't
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just happen to decide to do this a couple of days ago. this was someone that seems to be very knowledgeable to a certain extent about politics and knows the people he doesn't like. his dislike of he's people might have been manifested on social media prior this to this and that becomes important or he may have subject a letter to someone talking about one of these people and how he disliked their politics. if you look at the forensics, you have got someone that because of the planning that went into it, i would be very careful about summarizing or concluding that any mistakes that you see in how he addressed the letters or the return address that to assume they are mistakes. it may be very intentional because it does look like he's planned this out fairly well. the other thing i think is very concerning here is if these devices are meant to not be
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functional, we will know that when the fbi lab completes their analysis and each one could be functional if one additional thing occurred. this person may decide to make them functional and this person may also be really just taken with all of the attention that they are getting. it's thrilling and exciting, even more than what he thought. this may perpetuate him continuing to do it because look at the all the attention he's getting. that's a concern if that happens. >> a huge concern. with the assets available in a sense, you have these packages and you are looking for dna and fingerprints and identifying marks. what else? surveillance video? >> right. surveillance videos, you are doing neighborhoods to see if they picked up anything prior or establish timelines as when this package may have been delivered.
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trying to identify who delivered the package if it was the post office or it was a delivery service. those are things they are looking at. the fbi is trying to get all these things together as they -- today was a wake up that we found several more devices. we don't know what tomorrow or this afternoon holds. look at them and catalog them. are these pipes from the same lot or the timers and these things to put them together. there seems to be the same one consistently and work backwards. where could the items possibly come from? that generates leads to go out and actually start looking for people who sold these things or may have knowledge of these things. it's a long way away. >> when you listen to the reaction to this, these are 10 packages directed at people who have been sharply critical of
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the president and he has been sharply critical of them. many say it's obvious domestic terrorism. one person who has not said that is the president of the united states. should he? >> the two predecessors have been the subject of you could call it an assassination attempt. we are lucky these did not work. if they had, we would be in a different space right now. one thing we are not getting from the white house is a sense of immediacy and gravity. two former presidents and a first lady and a former secretary of state and former cabinet secretaries, media institutions. this is a targeted terror attack. i think that's why you see on the operational level, so much focus on this. what the white house could do is sort of -- in the same way that
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the mayor did quite successfully is engage us, the american public. someone knows. there is no question in my mind as we see with most of these cases that there is a community around these person or people who have some inkling or sold something or heard him say something or who may know the plan and feel guilty about it who should come forward and feel welcome to come forward. the gravity of this can't be underestimated. if it was just the two former presidents, it's a big deal. >> if it's just the two former presidents and it's bigger than that. obviously you have yesterday which was a horrific day and more found today. governor cuomo saying if you are the person or person presidency, you are getting the attention you want. you insighted fear and terror and that makes it terrorism and you are getting attention.
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how do you crack it? >> i listen to a bomb tech to tell me what these devices are all about. the american people should also be confident in how this investigation is being handled. it is handled by the joint terrorism task force and there are 102 of these task forces around the country because we have several states involved that have crime states going on. there are 4,000 members of these task forces that are state, local, and federal investigators from 55 federal agencies and 500 state and local agencies. this joint task force as the assets at their availability to conduct the investigation and all the stuff we talked about over the past 24 hours, all that is being fed and spread out to the joint terrorism task forces. all these leads are being handle and with a ton of resources. >> hopefully we get to a suspect in the near future.
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together in peace and harmony. we can do it. we can do it. >> that are plea is what we expect and what we need from a president during a nationwide scare. this tongue in cheek reminder that the president knows the expectations. >> and by the way, do you see how nice i'm behaving tonight? have you ever seen this? we are all behaving very well. hopefully we can keep it that way, right? we are going to keep it that way. >> he didn't keep it that way this morning. the president giving himself credit, i guess, for not calling his critics evil or label the media the enemy of the people. jeff is live at the white house. new reporting on the president's mind set as this national issue plays out. >> we do and the president's mind set is clear from what he is saying. you heard him there last night at the rally in wisconsin saying i'm behaving nicely. that is a sign that he is
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assessing the politics every minute as well. this morning i am told that he is having conversations with his normal round of confidants and advisers and he is planning to dig in. he is believing he is unfairly link said to the suspected pipe bombers and has no plans, at least at the moment, of changing his approach on this. he believes it's a winning approach and he has done it before, going after the media that is popular among his base. he is programming the day, if you will, on conservative talk radio and television, the message he believes others should do. i was speaking with one confidant of the president and he told me this. offering a window into his thinking and he believes he is being treated with hostility and unfairly. there is no talking him out of that. that is the sense again of this president. as in most situations, what we are seeing publicly is what he is saying privately as well, as
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best we can determine at this point. do not look for any change in the short-term in his strategy and reaching out to his pr predecessors serving in the oval office. he believes he is unfairly linked to all of this. what impact will this have on the mid-terms? we don't know the answer to that. the president is keeping an eye on the investigation and he believes that this person or a suspect will be brought to justice. as of now, john, he is digging in his heels and we know what he is saying publicly and privately. >> fresh reporting at the white house. with me in studio to share the insights, abby philipp. adviser with "the washington post." mary katherine hamm with the federalist. anyone blaming the president? the president wants to snake about him.
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amen for what he first said yesterday. let's take a breath and everybody tone it down. let the investigators do their nob. we can all be better. it's our fault. why? >> for this president, everything comes back to him and how he thinks he is being perceive and attacked or if he feels like he is under siege. as always with him, the media is the culprit. the media is responsible for him being treated poorly in the public sphere. this is no different. i think what jeff reported there a few minutes ago is the same way he reacted to a lot of these kinds of crisis in his presidency. he was back to charlottesville, his response was that you are trying to blame me for this and i'm not responsible. what people are asking him to do is to step back from himself and
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to set a tone. sometimes by setting a tone, you have to be self-reflective to do that. this president has never been willing to be self-reflective and reluctant to set a tone when the country needs him to and when he feels under siege, he lashes out. his aides are transparent about that. they say he has a right to fire back when he feels like he is being attacked. even if it undermines himself. >> it's interesting because of course he played no role in this, but you have to play a greater context in attacking the mead why and you have to wonder if that contributed to what happened yesterday. he speaks frankly and he goes after and mocks his enemies and people like that about him, but there is a line. it's one thing to be critical of your enemy and another to say that the media is the enemy of
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the people and we are making up false stories to go to montana a couple of days ago and praise a lawmakers who body slammed a reporter and was charged with doing so and pleaded guilty to doing so? that's a whole different level. of course that has to contribute to the atmosphere we are seeing right now. >> you heard him saying i'm trying to be nice, almost as if reminding himself to not veer off script which he returned to today. at portions yesterday, to make it about him. none of these were sent to him. none of these packages. they were sent to other people, democrats mostly. he is distracting from that. that idea of what atmosphere we have in our country right now. he's not doing anything to tone it down. he is reacting to the base instinct which is to blame others. >> at a time when he could have
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a moment. this is a moment and i don't care if you are a democrat or republican or follow politics or stay away from it. you see news like this. i was off yesterday. traveling with my son and you start reading these things. people are talking about it everywhere you go. a chance for a president to say let's be together. let's calm down. he did that. but then -- >> yes. occasionally we can see him have a moment, but it often does not last long. in coverage of this, there is a pretty clear implication by much of it that rhetoric leads to violence. i think that is not a great thing to be saying. we walk a fine line. i keep my rhetoric responsible for a reason. it's best for the country and me and my soul. rhetoric did not cause the shooting in tucson and did not cause the shooting on the congressional baseball field or executions of cops in the wake of black lives matter. if you make the clear
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implication that speech you object to -- and it's tempting to say only the speech you object to causes violence, we are in a bad situation with the freedom the first amendment affords us. i think that is a political temptation that too many people go down the road. we don't know the perpetrator or the motives and it's good to be careful to blame your opposition. >> i agree and we will get to rhetoric from the left. we will have it across the spectrum. the point being, i covered the clinton white house. polarization was bad then and it was worse under bush and worse under obama and worse now under trump. he uses that strategy to ramp up the rhetoric. i never heard a president call the press evil or enemy of the sfat. he is supposed to be a figure
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higher. this is ben sasse, a trump critter who said the president of the united states has to be a singular figure. >> we don't refer to the press as the enemy of the people in america. there are particular stories that are often and regularly biased. we should criticize that and how we do it is arguing the merits of a story and not by delegitimizing or demum an ihum the people on the other side of the facts debated. >> this is the congressman from nebraska. he works at another network, but a pipe bomb set to cnn to john brennan. he goes straight at the president. he said your inflammatory rhetoric and try to act presidential and the american people deserve much better. your critics will not be intim
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dated into silence. i will put john brennan in the same box. shouldn't everybody find a way or are we past that point where this is not the day or the week for that? >> that is what we are trying to figure out as a nation. how do we turn the temperature down? mary katherine is right. the speech in and of itself is not responsible for violence. even the president acknowledged that the way that we talk about each other. this is what he said. the way we talk about each other and to each other matters. the question is, does the president now turn that inward and look at what he has been saying and say okay, i'm a little bit responsible for this. i'm not the only one, but i'm a little bit responsible for this environment. it's not about blaming a speech that you don't like. it's about setting a tone about
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how we talk to each other and have a political discourse. this morning at the white house, we had sarah sanders basically blaming the media's negative coverage of the president. that's literally saying we don't like the way you report on the president, what he says and what his policies are. and that's responsible. i don't think that's the answer either. there is a lack of interspection all-around, but if you are in ben sasse's camp, it might be fair to say it starts at the top. it has to start at the top. >> continuing the conversation. democrats under pressure to check their tone as investigators continue the hunt for whoever is responsible. complete, misse balanced nutrition... for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. ensure. now up to 30 grams of protein for strength and energy!
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democrats and trump critics targeted this time. months ago it was republican lawmakers at baseball practice. the inevitable debate about whether as we were discussing, our discourse is a factor. as we discussed, it's a plain fact that the president moved the boundaries of that discourse by calling critics evil and the media an enemy of the state. it is not right or fair to chastise the president as we believe we should without making
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note of the left, including two of the people targeted this week. >> i am sitting here listening, watching, absorbing, thinking about ali, even though i never met him and with this kind of inspiration, i will take trump out tonight. >> if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, in a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they are not welcome. >> about two weeks ago, hillary clinton said civility can wait. >> you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about. that's why i believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and or the senate, that's
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when civility can start again. >> now she sounds a lot more conciliatory. >> but it is a troubling time, isn't it? it's a time of deep divisions and we have to do everything we can to bring our country together. >> it is a conversation we had many times before, sadly. we had it after the gabby giffords shooting in thank yucs. that striking language. take out trump. that's a member of congress saying hurt or worse to the president of the united states. maxine waters doesn't mean take out trump, but we are asking the question, does that encourage? does that lower the bar for violence? would it be good common sense to
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find a way to talk about these things. >> democrats have not figured out how to deal with president trump. they do this with the language, too. they have not lived up to going high when they go low. they are struggling and a lot will be sorted out in the mid-terms and 2020 campaigns about how to deal with president trump rhetorically and how to offer something that is different from him in a way that is not antagonistic about him. some candidates are doing that, but the candidates we hear about such as elizabeth warren or kamala harris angrily. >> add to that, you mentioned michelle obama, they go low, we go high. the attorney general thinking about running for president, someone who had a packaged directed at him, he said this. >> michelle says when they go low, we go high.
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no. no. when they go low, we kick them. that's what this new democratic party is about. >> and again, eric holder is not saying people should be violent, the question is, we had so many of these episodes where violence happens. sometimes it's impulse and sometimes it's reflex. you say things you wish you could take back. should there be a conversation about training myself to use different language? >> what is one of the first things your parents taught you. two wrongs don't make a right. people on the left of angry and want to pausch back on the president and there is a sense that you have to fight fire with fire. again, if they want to bring down the temperature and create more of a civil discourse, this is not going to help. it could very well blow back on
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them. republicans are on the campaign trail saying mob this, mob that. democratic mob. some people are listening and don't feel that democrats are any better than republicans. >> there are a lot of people saying come on. wait a minute. somebody uses tough language, that's not an invitation and doesn't cause somebody to shoot somebody. >> this is just an angry rhetoric can have a malignant effect on troubled souls. grantingly them a level of moral permission to act beyond the law. few things grant that permission as it minimizes our own team's misconduct as marginal and rare. can we not see where that leads? >> the structure in politics is all wrong for this. people and politicians are incentivized to go further and further to the fringes.
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they get retweets and likes and people showing up at rallies and buying their books and booked on cable television. we are not incentivizing people to appeal to the higher angels of the american public. i'm not trying to be cliché about this, but the reality is that i don't know thinks it's are inially in their best interest politically. if you tone down the media, toning up is what gets people attention. until that structure changes on the left and on the right, it's going to be a problem. democrats will have a hard time managing their base in this next election like republicans will have a hard time managing the president and how he appeals to his base. >> we are about to have a mid-term election that could, if everyone holds firm, democrats narrowly take the house and you
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will have more tension there as well. naive question, probably, but what would be the circuit breaker for the climate of disrespect here in washington? >> i think politicians have to see a market for that. that has to come from the american public. you talk to voters out on the mid-term campaign and there is a craving for mfixing this. there is a quiet group of people who don't get traction and do want more civility. you have to have that in a big national debate and maybe the presidential campaign is a venue for someone who can offer that vision that is a counter balance. it may be naive. >> a crowded democratic field. i would not put your money today on a polite and civil conversation. >> it is totally transactional and people see through that and it's opportunistic. my rhetoric gets to be up here and i can say whatever i want and you should shut up because
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debate between the two men who want to be florida's next mayor. andrew gillum shopping short of calling ron desantis an outright racist. he appeared to guess as an anti-muslim conservative activist. >> i'm not calling mr. desantis a racist, but the racists believe he's a racist. >> i'm not going to take this nonsense from a guy from andrew gillum who always plays the victim. >> gillum is the tallahassee mayor and would be the first african-american governor of florida. this poll has been personal. this is high stakes stuff. you showed up at the conference. the people there are racist and therefore guilt by association or fair charge? >> and also the nasty robocalls that have been going on in that state. it has become a really nasty
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campaign and race is such a central part of it. it was interesting to see andrew gillum address that head on and do it in a way that many thought was skillful. laying out the case of what he thought ron desantis didn't do and say figure these people think you are a racist, then there is something to be said for having that conversation. that moment has gone viral. it's interesting to see someone like him, a rising star in the democratic party deal with guilt by association type of thing that is going to have ripple effects in other races. >> an election of enormous consequences. when you talk about 2020 whether you have a democrat or republican in the race. redistricting is among the prizes. >> making a viral moumt out of these debates is the moment.
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first, it continues to pay paramedics while we're on break. second, it ensures the closest ambulance can respond if you call 9-1-1. vote yes on 11. warning, california. a handful of billionaires have spent over $70 million on campaigns to undermine our public schools.
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and electing a former wall street banker named marshall tuck to superintendent of public instruction is all a part of the billionaires' plan to take money away from neighborhood public schools and give it to their corporate charter schools. that's why tony thurmond is the only candidate endorsed by classroom teachers for superintendent of public instruction. because keeping our kids safe and improving our neighborhood public schools is always tony's top priority. proposition 11 "proposition 11 is a vote to protect patient safety."
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it ensures the closest ambulance remains on-call during paid breaks "so that they can respond immediately when needed." vote yes on 11. fallout from the supreme court confirmation from justice brett kavanaugh, the senate judiciary chairman chuck grassley referring to the justice department. he wants an investigation into julie swetnick and michael avenatti. you might remember she came forward and made allegations about judge kavanaugh. michael avenatti was her lawyer.
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he wants them to look into whether they were materially false statements made during the course of the me is's investigation. that reporting from manu raju. back to politics now. 12 days to the mid-term election. clair caskill wants you to know she is not crazy. clair is not afraid to stand up against her own party. clair is not one of the crazy democrats. she works in the middle and finds compromise. >> interesting closing argument. one of the most vulnerable senators locked in a tight race that president trump won big. she's not crazy. vote for me. i'm not one of the crazy democrats. >> she's clearly targeting trump voters. the commercial with two little
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aged men who were skeptical of democrats and goes up against her own party. there could be backlash and there are local democratis officiwho are talking about a certain lgbt crowd or talking about black democrats. they are making this more of a problem for her than she was thinking it was going to be. >> for you get a trump voter for that, how many do you lose. you get more than you lose. clearly a response. her republican opponent, i'm not a crazy democrat and that's the response to this from josh hawl hawley. >> our country is divided. they will block judges and try to impeach the president. that's the democrat agenda and it's up to missouri to stop it. he's all in on trump.
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>> mccaskill benefitted from running against bad candidates. he is not a bliging her and he is dealing with a reality that this is a red or leaning state for trump. this is like the dominos commercials. this is better now. >> democrats let her need to do to win the race. they used to say let them do what you need to do and they are not having it. >> national democrats will forgive her. they might have a different take. thanks for joining us. see you back here this time tomorrow. wolf picks up the coverage after a quick break. have a great day.
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it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. thanks for joining us. we begin with a major manhunt under way for a serial bomber or bombers and a wannabe mass assassin or assassins. at this hour, a total of 10 devices have been sent to eight devices including the former vice president joe biden and the actor, robert de niro. two packages intended for biden were intercepted

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