living in the oval office as well. thank you very much. i appreciate your time tonight. and thank you for joining us this evening. so much to cover. i appreciate your time. "ac360" starts right now. good evening. thank you for the hard work of dedicated professionals around the country. there is a lot to be thankful for. an alleged serial bomber is in custody in south florida and thanks to yet others, more ieds, as the fbi called them, were intercepted before they could hurt anyone. we're learning more about the suspect. a man named cesar sayoc. we're showing pictures of him because authorities have asked us to in the hope that's others who may have encountered him will come forward. we are also learning as well about the political agenda that he plastered all over the van he was actually living in. pro trump messages, pictures. president, a sticker reading cnn

sucks. with prominent democrats, people the president has verbally attacked. some of whom were packaged with bombs as well. we'll be speaking with one who has known the suspect for years, his attorney. and we'll bring you the very latest on the investigation itself and where it goes from here. hanging over all of it is the question of the president's language and what role if any it played in giving license to attempts like this. again today, the president refused to even acknowledge the possibility, let alone accept any potential responsibility. and tonight at a campaign rally, in charlotte, north carolina, after briefly calling for national unity, he quickly turned on yet another of his own grievances with the press. >> we have seen an effort by the media in recent hours to use the sinister actions of one individual to score political

points against me and the republican party. 94% of the press i get is negative. even when i do something wonderful. >> that's just a small portion of what was a lengthy rant. more on that shortly. first, evan perez with the latest on the investigation. what have you learned about how the suspect was actually identified? >> anderson, a lot of police work that went into this. some of the key things that happened happened in the last 24 hours or so as the fbi lab was able to retrieve a fingerprint from one of the packages, one of the bombs, one of those sent to congressman maxine waters. and then they were able to retrieve dna from a couple of devices. again, one of those sent to maxine waters and one sent to president obama. those are key pieces as they were able to match an extensive

rap sheet of this suspect. the state of florida, he's been arrested about eight times dating back 20 years. so there was a lot for the police to work with. in the last 24 hours, we saw they started focusing on south florida. they were able to identify anderson. a lot of these packages, most appeared to have come from one specific area. that opa-locka facility where a lot of them were processed before they were shipped. so a lot of police work and just the fact this guy made a few mistakes and he had such an extensive rap sheet were key here. >> what exactly is he being charged with? >> he has five federal charges. in the southern district of new york. he is facing instate transportation of an explosive, illegal mailing of explosives, threats against former presidents and other persons, threatening interstate communications, assaulting

current and former officers. all of which he could face 48 years in prison. >> is the fbi concerned he have other packages out there? >> certainly the they are concerned. as we were reporting on his arrest we kept hearing about new packages showing up today. one that was being mailed to the democratic donor in san francisco, in the san francisco area. and another one to senator kamala harris in sacramento. so they were finding new devices even as they were rolling to try arrest him in that van that you now see. so the concern throughout is that there might be others. he briefly spoke to the fbi before he lawyered up. so the great concern is that there might be others. >> so there are no terrorism charges? >> not at this point. one of the things here is that there is no domestic terrorism

statute per se. a lot of our terrorism statutes are geared toward international terrorists. in this case, this guy seemed to have a cause but it was a political caused ad hoc. if they're able to, they'll add additional charges. >> all right. i appreciate that. next on ft. lauderdale where senior investigative correspondent drew griffin has been learning more about the suspect. and again, i should point out. we normally don't name people who are charged with things like this. the fbi asking for more information about this person. if anyone out there knows. what have you learned so far about this person's history? >> this arrest recordings back to 1991 and multiple states are involved in arresting and dealing with this guy. mostly for petty crimes throughout his life in florida. eight different times he was arrested. grand theft, battery, fraud,

drug possession, multiple probation violations. a couple things stand out. 2002 the power company is threatening to turn off his power. he threatens them with a bomb. charged with threatening to discharge a device. apparent supply sort of threat that he would blow up the power company much bigger than 9/11. in 2004 another crisis in his life. he was arrested for steroid possession. we now know there was an intervention trying to be taken place by his family involved drugs. and then a bankruptcy in 2012. that appears to be when he started distancing himself from his family and becoming somewhat estranged. so all of these adding up. we don't know when he began espousing all of these political views. he registered to vote for the first time in florida. in 2016, he registered as a republican. >> you spoke with a former boss

of his today. what did you learn? >> yeah. just an incredible interview. he was for a year through most of 2017, a pizza delivery guy at a pizza join right here behind me. he delivered pizzas in that van that everybody saw with all those stickers on it. with all the cobusiness. >> you didn't want them to sightful? no. it was messy. busy, it was kuklux klan. >> yeah. he was very proud of the pictures. very proud of the pictures he got. >> reporter: he had very strong political views. never threatened anybody at this

pizza place and apparently was a very very good employee. he left near january of 2018 saying he was going to become an either long haul trucker or a hazmat trucker. he left and they never saw him again. >> i want to confirm. he was working as a pizza delivery man, he was employed driving around a van that had nooses and kkk references outside the van and delivering pizza to people's homes? >> reporter: yeah. i didn't get it either. apparently he was a very good employee. i'm standing in front of the pizza place. they made him park the van around the back. he could only deliver at night. the manager, and you'll hear her again talk about this guy. it is like jekyll and hyde. what came out of his mouth was pure venom. but at the same time he was a good pizza delivery guy.

>> anti-gay, anti-black, anti-hispanic, anti-jewish. he told me more than once i like you as a manager but i hate you for being a lesbian. and if i had complete autonomy, you and all these other people would be eradicated. plain and simple. i was deformed and god made me with a deformity. >> reporter: was he threatening to you? >> no. he really wasn't. >> reporter: and yet he lowest good terms after they called him a great employee. this guy's social media as we've been reporting is just awful. even tweeting and posting things right up until almost his arrest, anderson. >> so this place felt comfortable allowing a guy who hates gay people, hates black people, hates hispanic people and others to go to people's homes at night and deliver pizza. that's pretty extraordinary. >> reporter: yeah, it was

interesting. the general manager as she describes herself is proudly lesbian and respects all people's views. and apparently as long as he showed up for work, did his business, no customers ever complained about him, they say, he was allowed to continue work. and she just told me, she wished she had more employees like him. that hard work ethic is hard to find. based on everything we know, anderson, it is kind of hard to swallow. >> we'll dig deeper on what you just touched on. joining me now only on "360," the attorney who has represented mr. sayoc in the past. i appreciate your time tonight. can you just walk us through how you came to know mr. sayoc and what he was like when you knew him? >> approximately 2000, 2001, his

family asked me to assist him in some problems he was confronting legally. and for the next five or six years, i represented him on four occasions. >> so what was he like? and i mean, i don't know if you can talk about the issues he was facing. a number of things he was alleged to have done in his past. what kind of a guy was he? did he have, in your opinion, emotional problems? family concern that he had some mental issues? >> well, when i first met him, the first thing i noticed was his vehicle. at the time he had another vehicle and it was plastered full of indian materials, regalia, paintings, all on the exterior. i saw that as strange. most people don't drive around with plastered vehicles.

and i recall a pulled down scrap book and he immediately wanted to show me newspaper clippings, photographs of him with this exotic dancer or wrestler or him body building. and i recognized very quickly that he suffered from certainly an identification issue as to who he was. he needed people to be impressed with him. he had issues of insecurity. i then began to realize that he had what i considered a lesser iq, substantial emotional problems. he was like a 14-year-old in an adult's body. and the kind of arrests that he had were reflective of that. from steroid possession, which he used in order to help build up and try to be attractive to women. to falsifying a driver's license where he took his own driver's

license and changed only one symbol on it. the year of his birth. in order the indicate ten years later so he would look you know yes to women that he met. and these are very immature acts. and i recall when i got the phone call, when he was arrested for threatening florida power and light company. and that occurred when he was working with a laundromat. he actually owned it. a small laundromat. and the electricity was turned off. he got so ang riflt he got on the phone, begged them on put on it, they wouldn't, started screaming and then he blurted out. if i load up your office, i'm sure you would turn it on real quick. i can make it like worse than 9/11. they hung up on him and of course they called police who came is that investigated. found no indications of bomb making but they charged him with a threat. when it went to court, the judge

and the prosecutor saw it for what it was. he was someone who was sick. at that time he clearly no indications of carrying out such activities. it is now 16 years later. his sickness has obviously worsened over the years and they put how many probation and gave him a break. >> has he sought any counseling? did his family get him to seeing any counseling or medication for mental health issues? and i'm wondering, you do know him and you're representing the family. how did they see this latest incident? if in fact he is the person who sent these potentially explosive devices, how do you see it? >> well, first, to speak to the counseling, his mother, madeleine, and his sisters, have been urging him to get medical help for decades. he is always refused. he has become indigindignant, a

someone who doesn't want to look at his problems. and in florida sadly, the laws don't allow compulsory medical treatment unless you're a clear danger to yourself and others. now we have the evidence. now we can get him baker acted. now it is a little too late. if the laws in florida were more like the laws in other states, the family might have been success envelop getting treatment. the only opportunity was with the steroid case. the judge, to his credit, in broward county, was willing to treat the steroid possession as a far could theeck possession. and give him drug court treatment. and while that's not true therapy, we were hoping that a 12-step program, some attention, might get him on the right direction. sadly, it didn't seem to help. currently the family is distraught. i was with the mother at the

hospital. she was getting surgery this morning and woke up to find her son was arrested. her emotions are varied. she's angry at him for doing this. she is a true lover of democracy, of america, she serves on local boards. she's been an active democrat all her life. i met her in the democratic circles 20 years ago and she's shocked her son has done what he's done. she feels sorry for the victims and the fear he's imposed on them. and she's sad. >> we've seen the pictures of the van with the pictures and the signage. when you knew him, did he seem politically active? did the subject of politics come up? we understand he didn't get registered until 2016. >> just the opposite.

he had no interest in politics then. his mother confirmed to me, he had never voted this afternoon. he never had an interest in any type of political issues. his interest was more of body building, nightclub events. it was a lifestyle of a teenager. someone who didn't have their priorities in order. >> so do you know why he became, i don't know if politically active is the word, but engaged with the presidency, going to rallies, driving around in that van, do you have any sense of why that happen? >> well, i have my opinion. i don't know certainty but it is my opinion that he was attracted to the trump formula of reaching

out, trump reaching out to these types of outsiders, people who don't fit in, telling them they have a place at the table. i believe that was a motivating factor. do i blame the president solely? no. this is a sick individual. i blame all of us. we have to start arranging for treatment for people when we see problems. we don't have to wait for it to become violent. we're not socializing these people when we recognize signs lying living in vans or doing stupid actions like threatening a power company. we need a socialization plan to work on these people are outside. it doesn't require psychiatrists and expensive doctors. >> early on, you said he started to embrace that he was

native-american even though there's no evidence. the family says there's no evidence that he was of native-american descent. but something now about this last election that became the focus of whatever his resentment or anger or whatever his emotional problems were. that's what you believe. >> well, he was clearly not native-american. his father was filipino and abandoned him as a child and his mother is italian. and he adopted this claim to being a seminole because he was trying to create an identity. if you ask me, my layman's opinion, is that manifested, this was someone lost. >> and do you think now -- >> he found a father in trump. >> you believe this was a quest for identity and this was the

latest iteration of that. going to a rally, attack cnn, attacking those who have criticized trump. >> that's correct. i agree with that. >> so what happens now? you're representing his mom, his sister, what did they want to see happen? >> well, obviously, they want what is very best for him and they've always hired me in the past to represent him. we spoke this afternoon and we discussed the seriousness of the charges. the fact the attorney general of the united states, the president, are speaking, saying they're out for blood. and they'll bring the weight of united states down on him. and i told him, they're simple middle class people who have worked to create good name, a good reputation for. they, and they'll go broke. they'll never match those fumds. the best thing for cesar at this

point is to use the office of the federal public defender. they have great resources or as close to it as the government. they can do a much better job. if they have any assistance, to mitigator offset these serious penalties, we're there to help. i interacted with cesar. if i would say apples, he would say cardboard. he didn't react like a normal individual. he wasn't working on all cylinders. and this is a sad result of someone very sick. didn't get the help, became a loner and then found a cause that documented and accepted these times of people.

the one thing -- >> go ahead. sorry. >> he never seems sophisticated enough to do something like he's accused of. i wouldn't be surprised to find out that there were either others who helped prod or encouraged him to do this, or that the bombs in fact were so crudely made, they never could have worked. he didn't seem to have the intellectual capacity to plan a conspiracy like this in my opinion. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. more now on how the suspect expressed his views online and what if anything that says to investigators. >> in addition to slamming cnn, he was a critic of the very people prosecutors said he target. 14 pipe bombs sent through postal system in the last few days. the 56-year-old registered

republican has been active across social media where he has posted multiple images of himself attending trump rallies or making a make america great again hat. even wishing trump a happy birthday in june. and saying it's time take our country back. vote republican. and the swamp to be drained. including pictures of prominent democrats and all major news networks except fox news. his activities echoing conspiracy theories. posting on facebook this photo of hillary clinton in may 2016 with the caption, i presided over $6 billion lost at the state department, sold uranium to the russians through my charity and illegally deleted public records, and murdered an ambassador. and this message about his quote, real father. and posting just weeks before the presidential election,

clinton is worst on terrorism. her and obama have made america weak and open to world terrorist attacks. a facebook spokesperson saying they previously removed multiple posts from his account for violations of its standards, at times following complaints by other users. they would not say it was removed until after he was name a suspect. in two twitter accounts tweeting about president obama and two billionaire activists. after authorities found the pipe bomb he allegedly sent to one of soros' homes. he tweeted about former vice president joe biden in late september. two days earlier posting this message about new jersey democratic senator cory booker. he's had multiple interwakss tlaufl he fweetd another target

maxine waters in april. he has posted a series of threats to cnn, its anchors and contributors saying you're next. you're next. so the corrupt con job media like make threats, april and don lemon next. among many ramblings, saying on the president's birthday, thank you for all do you against everyone and not be stopped ever. straight ahead, get it done, awesome, build wall. cnn, new york. >> he also tweeted about one of our next guests, phil mudd. he joins us next. i'm wondering, were you surprised this guy had threatened you in. >> yet. someone said you realize your name is out there.

what are you talking about? within a couple minutes somebody shows may tweet from i think it was august 24th, where this individual looked the me like, he said you're next. it took me a couple minutes. i've seen a lot in my life to say, if he had decided to get in that van and travel to my house, things could have turned out differently. i'm not worried. i don't feel threatened today. i'll go out on the streets of new york city but you realize the immediacy of the environment we live in. in passing, i got another e-mail today via my website that i had to pass to the local police department because it also contained a threat. that's not uncommon. >> i've had the fbi in my office. august 24th was i believe when he tweeted that that, only four days earlier, the president had tweeted about you as --

>> as everybody said, i don't blame the president for someone who has, i'm guessing, some sort of mental disorder. i saw a lot of people like the when i watched extremists. i look at individuals like the and they're looking for a ready would. i would call it validation. he is looking for someone regardless of the ideology to tell him. it's okay it's okay to act. the president has 55 million twitter followers. the president must be telling me right or wrong to go out and do something. only 96 hours between when the president came after me and tried to shame me and when this person put my name out in his own twitter feed. i'm not tom cruise. i'm not recognize an. there is only one way this guy decided to come after me. >> i don't even know if you call

them political beliefs or his focus is on the investigation. >> we always talk about motive. wh you want to figure out, are there warning signs here that we can pick up on in other cases, other people fit the same mold. so that's all a key part. we talk about the commonalities. since the devices started being discovered and then elected officials. there were some trying to ignore what was staring us directly in the face with the commonalities of the targets. saying perhaps there was a false flag operation. here they're saying, no, he appears to be a partisan.

it goes back to that issue, how do we stop it from happening again? i've been a lot more harsh than others who have been diplomatic as far as where the blame rests. i think if you're an elected official and you know that there are people throughout in this nation who are pre disposed to act on violence, it is up to you to do something simple and basic, not to spew hate and invective. that should be simple. you must know, the president isn't just to blame. it only takes one incident, one deranged individual to take those incendiary words and meet them with incendiary devices which we saw in this case. >> based on what you're hearing, to you believe he acted alone? >> we just heard that he didn't have the ability to act alone.

it has been a key aspect. first they want to know that there were no additional devices out there. also, they want to know if other people were associated with this person. from those familiar with the investigation that he has left gua guard, he has lawyered up. we don't know whether he did have additional people involved. they won't take his word for it. they'll be talking to his family and friends and former colleagues. and seeing if there are other people out there. they're not saying that there is but it is manage they need to rule out before they send out the all clear. >> coming up, more on what the president said after called for

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over the news, what if any responsibility the president or the impact his language may have had around any aspect of this being of terror. with me now, from the rally the president just spoke at with senior correspondent jeff zeleny. the president renewed his call for unity. but yet again, that call only lasted a few sentences. what happened? >> reporter: it did. the president was here saying the same they know that he's been saying at every rally. the tone was a little softer than it has been, say, then the houston rally where i was always at. it was similar to the rally on wednesday and the difference is that the president did not specifically mention any of his critics by name with the quick exception of hillary clinton one time and maxine waters. beyond that he largely stuck to his normal script here. but what we heard tonight was the president finding a new

point. he has gone out to the media repeatedly. that's his main opponent. he blamed the media entirely for what he said was trying to score political points for the serial bomber. take a listen to what he said, not accepting any responsibility himself. >> nor do we blame the democrat party every time radical leftists unleash violence and mayhem. yet the media has tried to attack the incredible americans other support our movement to give power back to the people. that's what our movement is. >> reporter: so talking about that movement, he said it was greatest movement in the history of the country. by that he means the trump campaign. never mind the civil rights movement and other movements. he was trying to shift the focus off the serial bomber and trying to turn it into a larger fight

that he believes the media is having against him in trying to stop his movement. he brought all of this into the context for the mid-term elections, that his supporters need to stand up. so what was striking was that he did not use this serial bomber that we've been talking about all week as a national security moment as some others might have done, keeping people safe. he said it was the left and the media trying to score points. it was more grievance than anything else. i will say after covering so many of these rallies, the vitriol from his side was lower than it has been on some rallies. >> the president was asked earlier if he shared any of the blame here. what did he have to say about that? >> he said no. i do not share the blame. he was asked that as he was leaving the white house. he said no.

talking to people who were talking to the president, they believe that he believes he's been unfairly linked to all of this. so not sharing any responsibility. we have seen the president call for unity but not one time tonight or throughout the day say what he is going to do to change the conversation. not one time. >> all right. thank you. >> joining us now as well as investigative journalists and author carl bernstein. i don't think anyone believes the president is going to use this as an opportunity to pause or look inward, recess rhetoric that he has used. >> why would anyone believe that? that is not what he does in the four years he's been in the political arena and the white house. if anything he has gotten more political. he has doubled down more than what we used to see.

he feels more egged on by what he says. he was saying, just as we don't blame leftists, that was his word, for mob violence, that's what they do. the questions about his rhetoric should not be made. i continue to be struck by the degree to which this president does not see the role of a president is not the same as a media network or an average citizen or a television commentator. it is a very different role. it is the reason there have been 44 of them over time. and this is not the moment where he changes who he is but it is worth noting. >> the president was bemoaning on twitter what he claimed with you a political downside of the bomb coverage. and hours after the arrest he was saying the same thing. that it had cost republicans momentum for the mid-terms.

he is not attempting to hide what appears to be his main focus here. >> there has been a failure of moral weakness that may be unique to the modern presidency. the president of the united states is supposed to be the moral leader of the country. and in a moment when we are being terrorized by someone threatening on assassinate leaders and expresidents, and we have a proper alert because of bombs going through the mail, this president at 10:39 a.m. this morning, just before the bomber was caught, tweets out about his own self-interests. republicans are doing so well in early voting and at the polls and now this quote bomb stuff happens and the momentum greatly slows. news, not talking politics. very unfortunate. republicans, go out and vote. that is his moral response. this may be a low point in presidential leadership in terms of what we hope to see president

telling our children. telling our children. this is a moment the unite. democrats, republicans, let's reject violence and say we must find who is responsible. we've heard nothing in the last week, while this terror was going on sxeexcept self-interes. we've heard these kinds of tweets out of this president and making the conduct of the press the issue. instead the real issue, as we have seen, is the conduct of the president of the united states. >> the president said he has toned down his rhetoric. has there really been any substantive change in his rhetoric aside from congratulating himself during a speech with how nice he's being? >> well, no. other than that. i would say when he was hosting a black leadership summit, and

someone said lock her up. that was the first that i'm aware of. so no. i don't think he's toned it down. what i think is pointing out is that we'll have this conversation. i guarantee you, what will happen after this conversation, we'll get e-mails or tweets accusing us of being contemptuous of the president. we are reporting on what he is doing and saying. this is just what is reality in front of you. this is not opinion. that is something that he has really struggled to deal with when it gets reported on. this is no president who likes the media coverage. if he at any time realize that's part of what it entails, you get aggressive coverage. despite what the white house

says. then he probably shouldn't have run because this is what the job is. when he satisfies bernie sanders supporter attacking the baseball game last year, that is true and congressman scalise was gravely wounded. made a remarkable recovery, thank god. it is true that bernie sanders didn't routinely list off andville five specific people that he didn't like that the people who sent these pipe bombs, they were all interpreters being critics, or had said things which were critical of the president and the president had called them out. it is not just that he called them out. it is that his message has been of hate, division, and one of threats. let's listen to the threat he made with body slamming and praising a congressman for body slamming a reporter. let's listen to the threat he made not long ago in which em, i would have liked to have punched him in the face. the problem is nobody wants to

hurt each other anymore. that's the president of the united states talking. truman didn't talk like that. roosevelt didn't talk like that. eisenhower, bush 1, bush 2, clinton, no president of the united states has ever talked like that. one of the great shame is that the president in washington, on capitol hill, they've not been able to say mr. president, we maybe agree with you on the issues but you must stop the tone of attack that has been the hallmark of your presidency. we cannot accept it. the country cannot accept it. it is dangerous and now we have really seen the danger of it. this mad bomber acted on his own but in an atmosphere that has been defined by the president of the united states and that kind of language. coming up next, the counter story that unfolded this week.

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before today's arrest, there was a lot of speculation on the part of some why w no evidence that what we've been watching this week was so-called false flag operation. >> we do as you've seen in the past, reporting on these events, incidents where it is a false flag, if you will. >> you talked in your notes earlier about the potential that it could be a false flag. >> we cannot rule out that it is a false flag operation as well. >> rush limbaugh suggested these were actually false flags by the left. >> the left feels they're losing on many levels, and i feel they're planting these devices. >> we have the worst right wing

bomb maker in history or we have a false flag operation where it is a left wing type of operation to create hysteria. >> because two weeks before a major election, who will look like the bad guy here? the republicans. >> fascinating. joining us, the former trump campaign aide michael caputo. is there any reason to believe the evidence today will convince those people this was not a false flag operation? >> i feel like anybody who could even go down that road in the first place is probably not the most persuasive person. but these are the things that i would have associated with an alex jones type person. to watch martha mccallum at fox news say that's fascinating, it's an interesting concept, or have ed henry, these are people at least when i worked there,

were very respectable. and i just, i can't even imagine them entertaining these things. fox has always been serving leaning. i can't believe what i just saw. >> we didn't know who this person was. what the motivation was. now that photographs of this person's van have been seen widely, i've seen even online people saying, the van looked like a new van and the pictures looked like they were newly put up there. they weren't washed out by the sun. do you think this will put to rest the idea that this was a false flag? >> well, i have to till. when this first happened, i kind of thought, this looks fake. who could believe some of these labels that were on those packages. i thought this looked like some

kind of a plant. that van is parked around where i live in south florida when i'm down there for my work. it is pretty famous. those stickers have been on that van for months as far as i know. and it is real. at the same time, we look at what happened know, and shot down scalice and others and speaker ryan and nancy pelosi bringing everybody together. they covet one of us and they covet all of us and we sing kumbaya. i think it's important to do it now. i don't think we should be pl politicizing what is clearly mental illness. i think it's put to rest now. >> kirsten, that comparison has been made. is that a fair comparison, the

sanders supporter who ended up smooting a representative? >> no, bernie sanders wasn't over and over routinely naming specific people and organizations they had problems with. donald trump tweets about, talks about whether it's an interview or in rallies, obsessively how much he hates cnn and how the media is the enemy of the people and democrats are evil. these are not the things that bernie sand erers was saying ane was not saying it about his so-called political enemies. it's just a who's who of people that donald trump hates. and i think it's very different. if you think about, as michael was describing what happened with nancy pelosi and paul ryan, you played a clip earlier of trump atracking the press again. he still today is going after

the media when the media is being targeted with bombs. >> michael? what about that? >> well, i can tell you, we know that the president does tag people individually. and all those people that he goes after are people who have gone after him. he is a political warrior. we hug this out after hodges shut down scalice. but the same time, 24 week, i hosted a steve danbannon in a reception here in east aurora, new york, and we had to cancel the reception here, in a historic inn in this tiny village and we had a fire hall, the jamison road fire hall where the rally took place with steve. they got absolutely one after another phone calls threatening them and telling them to shut it

down. my wife got a piece in the piece. and james hodgkinson was arrested, i noted my picture was on his facebook. this goes both ways and president trump, i know it offends delicate sensibilities and he is out there punching back. but this isn't bean bag politics and we have to be careful not to politicize what is mental illness of hodgkinson, the man who was found guilty this week sending white powder to trump's sons, and laramie, wyoming, and the democrat that is sought by fellow authorities at this military in wyoming setting a fire to the republican headquarters there, it goes both ways. >> kirston? >> all i can tell you, there's no question that we're in a particularly bad climate right now.

but, i mean, i can just tell if you are having done this for a while, i have never had people post a picture of my house and tell people to come to my house, which has happened to me. all right, people who support donald trump. i get things in the mail, threatening things in the mail. i get all sorts of crazy things happening to me i never had happen to me. i was a left of center person on fox news, i got a lot of attacks the the people who support donald trump and it's something that is very different. the same thing -- look i i'm sure there are people who always don't like cnn. that is normal for a people not to like a media organization. but the obsessive hatred that is made by the president. michael, even if it was both sides, it wouldn't excuse what the president is doing.

>> i got get a break in. >> it doesn't include maxine waters and the rest. >> michael, thank you so much. sorry, maxine waters and others. chris, we want to see what he is working on. >> it's all this. all that is going on here. everybody is pointing at the other side. i'm looking at your beleaguered face in the middle. and nobody is dealing with the main question, how does it stop? if everybody wants to say it's a problem and nobody wants to own it, nothing will change and we are seeing it right from the the top. there is one president, anderson, you said it and you are right every time. leadership will start at the top. we lwill look at what he said a his rally tonight and a window into what this president wants. we will talk to part of team trump and see what their perspective on what is going on. we will talk to jim clapper on

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pelosi. can you imagine? speaker of the house, nancy pelosi? i don't think so. >> president of the united states after calling for peace and love and harmony. s the news continues. hand it over to chris. chris? >> thank you. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." the bombs were not a hoax. not fake. they were real, improvised devices that might have hurt people. so says the head of the fbi picked by donald trump. the democrats did not do this. a rabid trump fan allegedly did, tashl targeting those who trump told him and the legion of