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an alleged serial bomber is in custody in south florida. >> 56-year-old cesar sayoc, they have confirmed at least one of his fingerprints from one of the envelopes. >> we are also learning as well about the political agenda that he plastered all over the van he was actually living in. >> it was covered in photos of president trump, and vice president pens. >> this is a sad result of someone who is very sick, didn't
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get the help, became a loaner, and then found a cause. he found a father in trump. >> we must unify as a nation. we have seen an effort by the media in recent hours to use the sinister actions of one individual to score political points against me. >> calling them enemies of the people, and then suddenly pretending that you're concerned about civility. come on. good saturday morning to you, after a four-day nationwide manhunt, federal agents say they have arrested the map who sent more than a -- man who sent more than a dozen mail bombs to prominent democratic figures and trump critics. >> 56-year-old cesar sayoc told investigators he didn't want to hurt anyone but the fbi director says under the right conditions these packages could have gone off. >> today's arrest doesn't mean
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we are all out of the woods. there may be other packages in transit now. >> well, the two most recent packages were sent to democratic senator kamala harris and democratic donor tom stier and that brings the total number of mail bombs to 14 now. at least 14. for more, let's bring in cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns live from the federal detention center in downtown miami. that is where sayoc is being held. joe, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. i can tell you a couple of things about this. number one, authorities are very concerned about whether there are other packages in the system. we hear of it from christopher wray, the fbi director himself, who said just yesterday, during a news conference in washington, d.c., we're not out of the woods yet. while authorities do have a suspect in custody, there are still questions about packages that went from cnn center in new
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york, for example, all the way to california, delaware, florida, washington, d.c. could there be something else in the system? that is one of the big focuses of the investigation this morning, victor. >> so joe, we know that he has a court appearance on monday in miami. what do we expect to come from that? and what do we know what happens from this point on? >> reporter: in the federal court system, it's usually pretty simple. he has an attorney, and the attorney simply sbeenters a ple. the question then is what happens next. whether this individual wants to admit to his crimes, and move on, on that track, or whether there is a desire, if you will, to fight it out. so we do know sayoc is expected to appear in court here in florida, to answer for these
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initial charges that have been field by the federal government, and the investigation continues as authorities try to figure out number one the motive, also whether anyone else was involved, and how in fact, a man of limited means, who apparently was living out of his van, was able to put the entire country ill at ease, if you will. >> joe johns, thank you for the update. we appreciate it. president trump has acknowledged the mail bombing suspect was his supporter but that's it. he did not disavow his support. >> the rally in charlotte, where he blasted the media's response, after the suspect was caught, cnn white house reporter sara westwood, live from the white house for us now, what exactly did he say, sara? >> reporter: well, christie, president trump was renewing his calls for unity in the wake of the package bombing spree. but in the same breath, he was criticizing the media for the negative coverage and blaming news outlets for somehow
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spreading hostility and divisions in this country. president trump has been complaining this week that all of the focus on the mystery behind who was sending these pipe bombs has blunted what he saw as gop momentum heading into the final week of campaigning before the midterms. as you know, the president has wanted illegal immigration and the caravan of central american migrants in central america to be his closing argument for the mid texas and that's what he wanted to turn the conversation towards, but so far in terms of his response to the pipe bomb, he has been alternating between taking swipes at the media and encouraging americans to come together. that's what we saw from him at charlotte last night. take a listen. >> everyone will benefit if we can end the politics of personal destruction. we must unify as a nation in peace, love, and in harmony. the media has a major role to
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play, whether they want to or not. and they do indeed have a major role to play, as far as tone, and as far as everything. and we all say this, in all sincerity, but the media's constant unfair coverage, deep hostility, and negative attacks, you know that, only serve to drive people apart and to undermine healthy debate. >> now relatively speaking, for the president, we have seen a more moderating tone from him at that rally in charlotte, at a rally he did in wisconsin, earlier this week. last night, he is trying to pivot back to political terrain that is more comfortable for him, he did tease repeatedly an
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immigration announcement he will have next week but despite calling on americans to come together, victor and christie, the president is showing no signs of letting up on the intensity of his rhetoric head nag the last week before election day. >> when the president was asked if he should tone down, he said he actually could tone up. we will see if he does that over the next ten days. sara westwood for us at the white house, thanks so much. we want it talk about the investigation into the packages and what comes next as well. cnn white house reporter steven colinson and cnn analyst josh campbell and margaret talab, senior white house correspondent for bloomberg. thank you all for being here. we appreciate it. absolutely. josh, we know the dna fingerprints, we know that pings from the cell phone tower led authorities to this auto parts store parking lot in south florida. what do we know about what investigators are doing today with that, that van, because if that is where he was living, we would think that they would be able to make some real decisive
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i guess consequences -- >> progress. >> yes, progress, in terms of what they are going to be able to determine about this man and his motive. >> absolutely. law enforcement officers will continue to work through the weekend including today going through the van which is a potential gold line for evidence. they will be looking for, you know, indicia of explosives inside, perhaps evidence of packaging, something that may indicate that this was possibly the scene where he was actually putting these devices together or at least transporting them. again, we have talked a lot about the outside, we see the video there, we remember yesterday of the authorities putting the tarp over the van covering up all of the paraphernalia from political indications, so that will be of interest. obviously to investigators to go through that and catalog and photograph it and see what this means and trying to get to the motive why this person did what he did. and also going on far away from florida and washington, d.c. on the outskirts in quantico,
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virginia, the fbi bomb laboratory continues to process these devices. just yesterday, to the hedge fund billionaire, we were talking to our law enforcement contacts last night who indicated that today, likely that would be packaged up and shipped back to the lab. yet another piece of evidence that they will be going through. so law enforcement officers have a herculean task ahead of them throughout the weekend. >> let's talk about rhetoric, political rhetoric here and let's first listen to new york governor andrew cuomo and then talk about it on the other side. >> we have to get to a point where you can have political debate without political violence. this is at a torrid level that is just unpalatable. and we're learning that, when you keep stirring that pot, and you have leader, the president of the united states, people learn to him, he is no longer on a talk show, he is the president
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of the united states, and this is whipping up people, and you will see people respond. >> prominent democrat there, making that point. other democrats making it. a few republicans. ohio governor john kasich as well. but where is the rest of, the li lion's share of the president's party on this point, we are ten days out from the midterms, would it be naive to expect they would take a stand on them going into the midterms? why haven't we heard from more of them? >> i think you're right, there are a lot of republicans who also feel this way, but strategically, politically, it makes sense for democrats to be talking about it. i suppose it is a laittle bit riskier for republicans to be talking about it because of the midterms but also how the president will respond to them. and you know, any, most any president you can imagine, from the last half century, republican or democrat, if something like this were happening, it would almost
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entirely be setting aside politic, calling the affected parties or having the chief of staff talk with them, really talking about unity. but for president trump, part of this may be a calculation that because midterms have always been base election, messaging to the base, still is the right course of action and part of it may be him bris ling at the suggestion that he has responsibility for his rhetoric. and so i think we are seeing politics absolutely overshadowing kind of the governing part of the equation that we might typically see with another administration. >> i want to listen here to gop congressman, representative mark walker of north carolina, talking about what he thinks trump means when he says unity. let's listen here. >> i do believe him. i believe in his heart he wants to see things unified. i believe we are all certainly,
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as your host talked about, there is some responsibility that goes around, but i think it is really the bottom of his heart, i do believe he wants to have a more peaceful union. >> steve, look, people are not stupid. they see the two different president trumps here, one who is calling for unity and the other who is calling people names, and who is very divisive. what is the white house doing, the administration, as we are now so close to midterms, are they doing anything to try to reconcile that, for people who are getting ready to go to the polls? >> i think you see, christie, the tension between the president's official ceremonial role, and fulfilling the expectations we have of how a president should behave in a time of national peril. and president trump's political inclinations. so he comes out several times this week and gives a scripted statement, calling for unity, condemning political violence. yet with his tweets, and his
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comments at rallies, he appears to undermine that. so there is this constant tug between the president living up to the expectations of washington, and what we believe and how we believe a president should behave in this kind of moment, and his political sort of rationale if you like. he doesn't seem to be able to sort of unite those two conflicting requirements. and you know, here is the problem, the president calls for unity, but everybody knows that his political project, if you like, is based on looking for errors of political, social, even racial division in the united states, and tweeting them. and that is how he gets his base enthusiastic. and he became president because he took aim at those conventions. and if he behaves in the way that we expect the president to
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behave, he is not completely being true to himself, and that's why you have this constant conflict in the way the president behaves. it is in his interest to get republican base voters enthusiastic and angry, in the last nine days before the midterm elections. and calls to unity probably don't do that. >> margaret pointed out -- >> it will interesting to see how he goes forward from this point. >> margaret pointed out midterms are base elections. we saw that sayoc is a trump supporter but when you look at the five charges he is facing, how central to making the case is his political ideology? >> so at this point, what all law enforcement officers had to do was come up enough charges, even one charge, to put him behind bars, initially, to bring him into custody. they have done that. we have seen the initial charges, of course, threatening
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the officials, very technical charms here, interstate violations, moving things across state line, and using communication device, that kind of thing but we are still early in the investigation. and they haven't had the opportunity to interview him when this complaint was actually filed. so it will be interesting to see if what they glean from that initial interview with him, our law enforcement contacts are telling us that he eventually lawyered up, he stopped talking to investigators, the question will come, did he provide anything of value before that took place? and the last thing quickly, is there is an entire trove of social media activity out there from this person that is now coming to light for all of the world to see. we are looking at. it investigators are also looking at. it they will be going thue and trying to get into the mind set of the person, the motive and if they can get to that t word, terrorism, domestic terrorism, that is something that at the will try to pursue at least in the extent they confirm the initial investigation is going on now and they can always add additional charges later on. >> thank you for sharing with us
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this morning. coming up, the mail bombing suspect's former employee tells cnn he was a model employee. . >> i think everybody has some kind of "ism" some kind of political view that they are afraid to come out and say, maybe this keep it hidden, keep it secret, he was one of the people who just told it like it was. and i never would have thought this was him. >> and odds are, if you're up this morning, you missed the end of the world series game. it kept going. and going. later this hour, the historic game that stretched into the morning hours. >> plus, megyn kelly's time on the "today" show are over and exit from the network, it is a conclusion, a foregone conclusion. coming up, what is at stake in her negotiations with nbc. the roasted core wrap. 3, 2, 1... not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that's cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and
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56-year-old cesar sayoc from florida has a criminal history and ties to new york. >> yes, but his boss, back when he worked at a pizza restaurant says he was a great employee. cnn's drew griffin spoke with his former manager. >> he was a reliable employee. >> fabulous employee. >> fabulous. >> always on time. never forgot anything. always appreciative. always respectful. i had never had any problems with him. >> except he had crazy political views. >> he had a lot of crazy political views. >> like what? >> anti-gay. anti-black. anti-hispanic. anti-jewish. he told me more than once, i like you as a manager, but i hate you for being a lesbian. and if i had complete autonomy, you and all of these other people would be eradicated. plain and simple. and i was deformed. and it was a deformity. >> was he threatening at all to you? >> he really wasn't. i have dealt with it all my life. people who have strong views,
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lesbian, or trans-gender, so that was just another one, i just thought, you know, i mean i dealt with him, and he just did his job, and he was never any problems with any of the customers. the customers absolutely liked him. he was respectful. he was always, that was just it, it was a flip side of the coin, you had the divisive personality that he was, and the political views, and then you had the responsible and reliable and showing up for work and due diligence, and i mean it was two different people. >> and he worked here for a year? >> he worked here for a year. >> he delivered pizzas. >> he delivered pizzas. >> worked the night shift. >> he had to work the night shift. >> you didn't want customers to see that van. >> his van was messy. it was dirty. it was ku klux klan. he had nooses on. there animals that -- >> did you ever say, what's with the van? >> yes, and he was very proud of some of the pictures he got. very proud of some of the pictures he got.
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for him to have these political view, i don't know. i think everybody has some kind of "ism" some kind of political view, you know, that they are afraid to come out and say, maybe keep it a secret, and he was one of the people who told it like it was, and i never would have thought this was him. >> some stories have been like this, you never thought it was him and you find out it was him and people are feeling oh, my gosh, we are so vulnerable, and do you think he would have ever hurt you? >> there was a time when it was raining and he drove me home in that van. and i said, whoa, you really hate me as a lesbian but he likes me as a general manager. so is there any way i can get out of this van? i mean i did flash to that. just because, sometimes, you didn't know the amount of hatred that he had. so i kind of wanted to look around to make sure there wan an exit point that i could get out.
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>> more for you coming up up here. and also, dna, fingerprints, and pings from a cell phone tower, that's what led authorities to this man, suspected to being the mail bomber. the next guest is a former fbi profiler and he has a lot to say about this, next.
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connection with the attempted mail bombings routinely criticized democrats on social media. >> and now questions about twitter, as critics say there were obvious warning signs, twitter missed it, in the tweet, the social media company has repeatedly said it has combatted harassment on the platform but those who use tweeter says it is not enough. we look at the social media ramblings. >> in addition to repeatedly slamming cnn, sayoc was a frequent online critic of the very people federal prosecutors say he targeted. 14 pipe bombs sent through the u.s. postal service in the last few days. >> the 56-year-old registered republican has been active across social media. where he has posted multiple images of himself attending trump rally, or wearing a make america great again hat. even wishing trump a happy birthday back in june. he also tweeted pro-republican messages like it is time to take
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our country back. vote republican. and the swamp to be drained. a post that included pictures of prominent democrats, and the logos of all major television news networks, except fox news. sayoc's online persona and activities echoing conspiracy theories and themes popular on right wing web sites. posting on facebook this photo of hillary clinton in may of 2016 with the caption, i resided over $6 billion lost to the department, and illegally deleted public records and murdered and ambassador and this string of posts of president obama and his real father. and posting just weeks before the presidential election, clinton is the worst on terrorism. her and obama have made america weak and open to world terrorist attacks. a facebook spokesman saying the company previously re moved multiple posts from his account, for violations of the community standards. at times following complaints by
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other users. the company would not say how many posts were we are moved but the violations were not severe enough to shut down his account until after he was named a suspect. he had maintained two twitter accounts at least, and tweeting about president obama and two billionaire democratic activists, tom styer and george soros, after authoritied fou found -- authorities found the device going to george soros's home. he had this message about the new jersey democratic senator cory booker. sayoc with multiple run-ins with the law, and a string of arrests dating back to the early '90s, tweeted about another targ, california representative maxine waters, back in april. sayoc has posted a series of threats to cnn, its anchor, correspondent, and contributors. tweeting, go screw cnn, you're next. you over enemy of america cnn, you're next. so the corrupt con job media,
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like make threats, april, and don lemon next. among the many ramblings of a prolific social media user who was clearly pro-trump saying on the president's birthday, thank you for all you do against everyone. and not be stopped ever. straight ahead, get it done. awesome. build wall. athena jones, cnn, new york. twitter has since apologized for mishandling a threat sayoc made on its platform against a former democratic operative. let's bring in former fbi special agent and profiler mary ellen o'toole. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> so sayoc's former attorney, now the attorney for his family, said that he struggled for years with quote a lack of comprehension of reality. law enforcement said he lived for some time in his van. passionate about politics. bouncing from identity to identity reportedly. how does this profile that is now coming to light correspond with what we know about people who typically commit this crime,
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or is there a typical profile? >> no, there there is no typical profile. but what is important is to look at how he was able to carry out the manufacturing of these devices, putting them in the mail, developing his list of people that he wanted to send them to, so this was a very well put together plan. and actually, it was pretty successful. because he was able to get these packages out to people. even though in most cases, it didn't actually end up in the hands of the intended recipient. he still was able to make sure that they were out there, and that his plan got a lot of attention. he got a lot of notoriety. so from one perspective, again, this was a well put together plan. so to now suggest that this is, these are indicators of mental illness just don't make any sense. >> so when you say that he got a lot of attention, a lot of
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notoriety, is that typically what the goal is? >> yes, oftentimes, it is. and the motivation can evolve over time to the point where it is more important to get the attention, as much as it is to create fear and to scare people. >> so fbi director christopher wray said these are not hoax devices but we know from a law enforcement official that sayoc said that he didn't want to harm anyone, and that these would not harm anyone. does that seem just like a typical hollow defense? or is this more of that lack of connection with reality? how do you see that defense from sayoc? >> well, the defense that he was giving to investigators would not be the litmus test for the capability of these devices. it would be what the lab said. >> a lot of, we saw from
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athena's package there, that there are signs on social media, that sayoc was unstable. when is it a good time to comment to authorities? i mean there is nothing wrong, obviously, it is not illegal to have strong political views, it is not illegal to put them on the side of your van, but at what point is it appropriate to make a call to police? >> it is appropriate when people feel as though a threat was made to them. >> technology failed us this morning. we got a lot before it went down. mary ellen o'toole, fbi, former fbi profiler and special agent. thank you so much for being with us this morning. well, there are negotiations going on right now, between megyn kelly and her bosses at nbc. the network confirming her morning talk show has been canceled. what is at stake as she negotiates her exit from the network? and where does she go from here?
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20 minutes to the top of the hour now. and sources tell cnn megyn kelly's exit from nbc, it is going to happen. right now, her lawyer is saying that kelly remains an nbc employee, but yesterday, the network canceled her hour of the "today" show. it was after a nationwide blowback from the anchor's racially insensitive comments about black face. >> there were big questions this morning, how much longer will she be an employee at nbc? and how much of kelly's massive contract will the network have to pay out? cnn business senior business
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writer alfred darcee with us now. where might she land here when this is all said and done? >> this has been a stunning fall for one of tv's brightest stars two. years ago, every network wanted to bring her in, right? they wanted to bring megyn kelly, they were offering her show, large sums of money, and it was something that it was like a bidding war, basically. now it looks like she is out of a job at nbc news and it is unclear where she will go from now. if you look at cable news executive, she is seen as toxic, and they don't want her at the network. i don't know where she is going to go. that is very unclear. >> does she have to go anywhere is the question when we talk about the money? >> she is going to be walking away from nbc with a lot of money. we don't know exactly how much because that is being negotiated but it seems like north of $50 million a lottery ticket for anyone else. but if she, she probably doesn't want to work again. and i think it will be interesting to see where she does fall. there might be talk that she might go to fox. maybe i could see some kind of window possibly there.
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but fox news spokesperson said this week that they're very happy with their lineup, so maybe that's not in her immediate future. >> so nbc has not had great success with her shows. sunday night show, they initially launched, the hour of the "today" show, that she hosted, and so was this just the reason to get rid of her, someone that they wanted off the books, anyway? >> i think this is something that a lot of people are not understanding, maybe, is that she was not popular at nbc before all this went down. before the black face comments. she was very unpopular internally at nbc. and -- >> why? >> a lot of reasons. clashes with management. and i think the big thing is her ratings were just not good. you have high ratings as a star, you can get away with a lot more than if you're not bringing in the numbers. >> and to justify the paycheck. >> exactly. >> i think a lot of people looked at her paycheck in particular like you said and she is not even bringing in the numbers. and then you have these comments, this week and some other comments before, that really rubbed people the wrong way and she hasn't been popular,
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and that's not worked in her advantage. >> we saw that unpopularity with her colleagues and the comments that they have made on air about what she said. >> was that surprising to you? that surprised me that they actually said it on the "today" show. >> absolutely. >> to talk about something their colleague said. >> i was surprised with the nightly news the night before, even, that a whole package, a segment on it, where they had noted this wasn't the first time she has had problems discussing race and when i saw the "today" show, i was like a little struck, it looked like nbc management had maybe okayed for her colleagues to go after her and i think that is something they had probably been wanting to do for some time. it was striking to see because it really showed that nbc management, the tide had shifted with them and they were no longer protecting megyn kelly, they were letting the talent go after her and that was a really an incredible moment. >> any clarity on what they're going to do with that hour or who is going to come in there yet? >> you know, in the long term, that's not clear. but we know in the short term, they are going to have the host next week, and obviously, she didn't come on air this weekend, and they had replays, but next
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week, they will have a fill-in host. whether they, who they are going to replace her, with we don't know. it is very unclear. >> or if that show will stay in the structure that it is as well. >> yes. >> good to see you in person. >> good to see you as well. >> thank you. coming up, a rising track star found dead in a car. university officials say she was being blackmailed by her alleged killer and even warned police. t. the roasted core wrap. 3, 2, 1... not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that's cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. and no surgery. results and patient experience may vary. some common side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort, and swelling. ask your doctor if coolsculpting is right for you. and visit coolsculpting.com today for your chance to win a free treatment. and visit coolsculpting.com whoooo. with tripadvisor, finding your perfect hotel at the lowest price...
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we have new information for you about the murder of a university of utah track star. university officials say lauren mccluskey alerted police, her eventual killer who became her killer had extorted her for a thousand dollars in exchange for keeping compromising pictures off the internet. the school's football team wore a special sticker on their helmets to honor her last night. this morning, though, there are
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a lot of people questioning why the university police did not do more. >> a moving tribute in salt lake city, for university of utah senior and track star, lauren mccluskey. >> there are no words to describe the pain and loss we're feeling a as a team right now. lauren was always a driven athlete. and gave 110% in everything she did. >> reporter: the 21-year-old was killed monday night, on the university campus. authorities say the suspect, 37-year-old melvin roland, took his own life, as police closed in. on thursday, the university communications office described the time line of events leading up to lauren's death, and it shows mccluskey told campus police earlier this month that she had received messages from reld or possibly from his friends, demanding money or they would post compromising photos of her and lauren online. >> lauren stated she sent a thousand dollars to an account as demanded in hopes of keeping
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these photos off the internet and protecting her reputation. >> police had been in contact at least 12 times before her murder and her body was found in a car two hours after she vanished while on a call with her mother. >> they were on the phone with her at this time. she says no, no, no, the phone goes dead. >> mccluskey met roland on and they struck oprelationship. fooic five weeks later she decided to end the relationship after learning he was a registered sex offender and not his reported age. mcclusky never said she felt her physical safety was in danger. detectives waited days to investigate the case and only started formally looking for the extortion claim weeks after the are port.
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something for you this week in this week's staying well. how listening to birds and nature can improve your health. >> waking up and hearing bird songs is one of my favorite things. when i go birding, it's almost as if you enter this whole new world. >> i have difficulty calming down in the city. it's nice spending an hour or two in silence almost. >> cognitive been if thes are seen. blood pressure improves and so does pulse and over the courses of an hour to an hour 1/2 if you're walking through a natural setting, symptoms of depression or anxiety improve. >> it's magical. you start to understand the viewpoint of nature and what the animals go through. there's a phoebe purchased to the left. >> verses worrying about
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whatever terrible things are going on. >> knowing i'm just going to stand here and look at these beautiful birds. >> a lot of times you'll notice someone else with binoculars. you really don't need to. >> makes you aware that even though we're living in the city that's such a man-made structure, in fact there's tons of life around. all right. seven hours and 20 minutes, game three of the world series, the longest in history. >> well into the morning on the east coast. >> that's exactly right. 18 innings. it ended at 3:30 in the morning in the east. game tied at one, the sox have a runner at second. eduardo nunez and allowing the sox to take a lead.
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that meant l.a. was going to have to match or better, their backs against the wall but they rise up. puig slaps one up the middle. this time the sox with the errant throw to first. that allowess munsy to score. tieing it up again. he tripped up just before the throw. the dodgers have new life. deeper into extra innings we go. 7 hours, 20 minutes after the game startd and max muncy after all those hours, deep fly to left and watch what happens when they realize the game was finally over.
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what a moment for muncy. he spent all of last year in the minors. cut thing sox series lead 2 to one. the next two games back in l.a. not a lot of rest. it's going to be which team can be more like victor and crist ey dominate engon little to no rest. >> that is our story this morning. >> and year sticking to it. alleged serial bomber is in custody in south florida. >> 56-year-old cesar sayoc, finger prints confirmed from at least one of the envelopes. >> it was covered in photos of
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president trump and vice president pence. >> this is a sad result of someone who's var sick, didn't get the help, became a loaner and then found a cause. he found a father in trump. >> we must unify as a nation. we've seen the media to use the sinister actions of one individual to score political points >> calling them ineems of the people and suddenly pretending you're concerned about civility. come on. ♪ this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christy ford. >> good saturday morning to you. good to be with you. cesar sayoc, he was a dj, body builder and pizza delivery man beforhe

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