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a source tells cnn the gunman made anti-jewish comments during the shooting and in fact even after he was arrested. but i want to playing this chilling 911 dispatch audio for you. this is from first responders in the synagogue. >> please be advised, suspect's currently injured. 93 yards. s.w.a.t.'s talking to him, telling him to continue to crawl at this time. suspect's talking about all these jews need to die. we're still communicating with him. be advised red shirt at this time. we don't know if he changed clothes. >> suspect keeps telling about killing jews. he doesn't want any of them to live. >> yeah, right. i already relayed that. i'm on the other side of the stairs. copy that. >> this community, this squirrel hill community, those who live there of course just in mourning and in disbelief that this could possibly happen in a sanctuary.
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>> in this community, no. there's no -- there's no violence. it's not -- it's not on the news regularly. it's not -- there aren't people dying. it's a place where you'd walk as kids and a lot of different communities here, christians and jews and a variety of jews from the very orthodox walking around. there hasn't been an issue. it just makes it really, really terrible. >> we want to focus on this community now. cnn's jessica dean is live for us in pittsburgh. where a candlelight vigil was held at the presbyterian church for everyone devastated and in mourning. tell all of us more about squirrel hill. >> reporter: well, brooke, i'll tell you this. squirrel hill is devastated tonight. there is just a very heavy cloud of grief that hangs over this community. but as you mentioned, they came
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out to the church behind us. and this was something that was kind of -- just came together organically because i was told by people here in the community they just wanted to be together, they just wanted to comfort one another, and more than anything they wanted to send this signal that hate is not what happens here in squirrel hill, that love is what will be triumphing at the end of the day. and so they all came together with that in mind. and i talked to a lot of people who say they lived here their whole life, that they know each other's kids, that they know each other's families, you say hi on the street corner, that this is a diverse community and it's a community that feels safe. and as you can imagine, they were absolutely stunned when this happened here in their community today. and i think it shook so many people. but again, they wanted to make sure that love was the message of the day, that coming together and unifying behind that was very important to them.
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now, all of the candlelight vigil and all of this playing out as this investigation also continued tonight, we found out later this evening that the feds did go ahead and file those criminal charges, those hate crime charges against the suspected gunman in this case. 29 counts in all. this as they continue, as you mentioned, to comb through his social media accounts, which were riddled with anti-semitic messages. one such message that went out just minutes before that first police call today. but again, just so many people here who are grieving, who are affected personally by what happened today, and also those who don't know anyone personally who was affected today but just are so deeply saddened that this could happen in their community that this sort of behavior, that this horrible, horrific thing could happen right here in the neighborhood where they walk their kids, walk their dogs, and have spent much of their life.
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brooke, tomorrow there is going to be a press conference in the morning. we're expected to learn more about the victims and of course more about those criminal charges, those hate crime charges that were filed this evening. >> so many heavy hearts across religions, just across the country and across the world tonight for this community where you're standing. jessica dean, thank you. in pennsylvania. six people were wounded. some of them were police officers, who of course when everyone's running away they're the ones bravely racing toward the scene. found themselves immediately in the thick of this gun fight. as for those who lost their lives, pittsburgh officials told us that they will release the list of names tomorrow morning. cnn's jean casarez is outside the hospital where those survivors are being treated tonight. jean, tell me how they're doing. >> reporter: we are outside one of the level one trauma centers here in pittsburgh. it is the university of pittsburgh medical center, mercy hospital. there are six surviving victims in all of this.
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two of the six are in critical condition. we understand one is a 70-year-old male, multiple gunshot wounds affecting major organs. we know that he has undergone a second surgery, currently in critical condition. another a 55-year-old police officers in critical condition. once again, multiple gunshot wounds. this time to his extremities. we also know a 61-year-old female victim is in the hospital, level one trauma cent center. also another officer and a 27-year-old officer here at this particular trauma center. but some good news, one of the officers, law enforcement, they have been released from the hospital at this point. we also know that sunday morning at 9:30 they will release the names of all that perished in this shooting. 11 fatal victims here in pittsburgh. jean qacasarez, cnn, pittsburgh
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pennsylvania. >> as we wait for those names in the morning, jean casarez, thank you. we did hear from the president today. president trump mentioning this mass shooting at the pittsburgh synagogue at both of his campaign rallies today. our white house correspondent boris sanchez is in murfreesboro, illinois. and boris, what was the president's message? >> reporter: president trump acknowledged to supporters here in southern illinois that he considered canceling tonight's rally though earlier in the day he said it was an obligation. this is one of more than a dozen stops the president has made in october campaign forget republican candidates across the country. he ultimately told supporters here that he felt he had to move forward because "we can't make evil people important." the president considered tonight's rally akin to september 11th, saying that the new york stock exchange opened one day after the september 11th terrorist attacks, something that is just factually inaccurate. the stock market actually took about a week to open after those
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attacks. nevertheless, the president for the second time in a week called on americans to unite in the face of domestic terror saying that americans have to come together to fight scourge of anti-semiti anti-semitism. listen to more from the president. >> there must be no tolerance for anti-semitism in america or for any form of religious or racial hatred or prejudice. >> reporter: one more note, brooke. the president was asked as he was departing the white house whether he would consider supporting gun control legislation, something that would potentially prevent attacks like the one we saw in pittsburgh. the president dismissed that idea. instead, he had other thoughts. listen to this. >> this is a case where they had an armed guard inside, they might have been able to stop him immediately. so this would be a case for if there was an armed guard inside the temple they would have been able to stop him. maybe there would have been nobody killed except for him, frankly. so it's a very, very -- very
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difficult situation. and when you look at it you can look at it different ways. but again, if they had somebody to protect people -- now, isn't it a shame you that even have to speak that way? isn't it a shame we even have to think of that inside of a temple or inside of a church? but certainly the results might have been far better. >> reporter: it's not the first time we've heard the president suggest armed guards as the possible solution to shootings. we heard him say the same after the marjory stoneman douglas high school shooting earlier this year in parkland, florida. the president clearly believing that having armed guards at places of worship or schools is a better solution than passing gun control legislation, brooke. >> it's a question of how realistic that is. boris, thank you very much in illinois. there's a lot to talk about. first just on the investigation here. with me, cnn law enforcement analyst josh campbell, who's a former supervisory special agent at the fbi. also with us, shimon prokupecz, cnn crime and justice reporter.
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and cnn legal analyst michael zeldin. gentlemen, let's begin with the newest piece of all of this and these 29 counts he is now facing. walk us through. >> right. sought big thing here obviously with these charges he's being charged with crimes of violence that are based upon the federal civil rights laws prohibiting hate crimes. this is a hate crime. it's clear this is what the government is saying. that's how he's charged. 11 counts of obstruction of religious belief. 11 counts of use of firearm. there's other counts here. but the bottom line is he's now officially arrested, he's now going to face court. he's going to be seeing a judge in pittsburgh. whether it's tomorrow or monday that remains to be seen. but that's it. and this is all we really know right now because the other documents we usually get when someone is charged, like the criminal complaint, that has not been released yet by the u.s. attorney's office. and in that we'll learn a lot more once we get those documents which are going to be released
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tomorrow in the morning at the press conference. >> let me go straight to michael zelden, to you. with your legal hat on. we had heard from the attorney general jeff sessions earlier today that they would be filing this hate crime charge and that in fact they have in addition to a number of other charges. is that the most significant here? >> absolutely. the charge of violating the -- i think it was actually passed by congress in 1996 and signed by bill clinton. i think it was called the church obstruction act. it related to church bombings. but it prohibits interfering with religious freedom and it carries a maximum of death, if death results from your acts. so these are death-carrying charges. section 247, which is what is the principal charge in this charging document. the use of firearms cascade down from it. so yes, this is as serious a
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charge as one can bring in a hate crimes case, a death-carrying sentence. whether they proceed with the death request is up to them, but the statute they're using does carry that if they want or they can go with life in prison. >> let me just remind everyone, before i come to you, josh, as we come to ultimate potentially death penalty in this case. sitting right there, the head of the adl, i don't think i can say this enough. adl saying this was the most violent, the deadliest attack on jewish people, the jewish community in the history of the united states. just let that try to sink in. go ahead, josh. >> it's obviously very serious. and i think what these charges show is obviously there's what the u.s. government brings to bear legally and what the penalties will be but i think it's also -- there's a symbolic angle here as well and that is the federal government, the department of justice, attorney general jeff sessions.
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they're essentially saying we will go after those who traffic in hate, try to target people with violence, which is a very strong message to be sending. it will be interesting if this becomes some saturday of a new shift or initiative. you take just this last week what we see in these two incidents of serious violence that appear at least on the surface to have some sort of political motivation or some type of hatred involved. is this now going to be a new initiative? each department of justice as they come, in each new leadership, they can set the priority for the department about what they want their people to focus on and it will be very interesting to see if the department of justice under jeff sessions and obviously under the president, if they look at this and say okay, we have a problem here, this is something we need to focus more on. it's one thing to sit here and walk past a crime scene with victims and dead bodies and prosecute the person that did it. it's quite another thing to try to get out in front of these problems before they actually happen to dedicate those resources to doing just that. i'll say one last thing. we actually heard tonight from
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the fbi agents association which we were speaking -- cnn was talking to one of their spokespeople who renewed this call from the agents association to congress, to the white house to actually move forward on this domestic terrorism legislation. they cited this incident. they cited the incident with the package bombings. there is no domestic terrorism statute right now. >> that's stunning. >> that's something they're trying to call on. they want the investigative tools to be able to investigate these things, to be able to pre-empt this type of crime. >> welcome to america in 2018. that's the kind of thing you need. >> you can probably bet that this attorney general, jeff sessions, and this department of justice will recommend the death penalty in this case. i'm sure of that. >> we heard that already. wasn't trump alluding to that already? >> basically, yeah. and it's trump's department of justice right now. and really you know, trump likes to say that somehow would prevent something like this. >> which say one quick note on that? because this has been bugging me all day. what the president was saying today, he came out to the microphone just minutes after essentially we heard about this. we'd been covering it.
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still a lot of facts that were unknown. but he was essentially saying that look, it's hard to describe this, he's sbasically saying that we don't need due process it seemed. he said we need to speed things up, move straight to the gallows for these kind of people, which obviously we all feel just that visceral -- >> it's a visceral reaction. but you need due process. >> but this country is based on the rule of law. and again, people will debate the death penalty. that's a separate conversation just in general. but we have legal processes in place to ensure that there is justice, there is due process. everyone wants people like these monsters that do this type of violence to face the swiftest and most serious justice as they can. i think what i'm distinguishing is some of the chaeft beating, okay, let's blast past all the norms and rulings our country's based on that we are going to offer due process on one hand that i'm going to set aside that's just bluster. but it will be interesting to see whether the department of justice actually prioritizes these types of crimes and moves forward with really throwing resources toward getting out in front of the a lot of this. >> michael, do you want to jump
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in on that before i move on to where this suspect is right now? go ahead. >> i believe actually one of the priorities of the attorney general has been religion and religion-related crimes. i'm not sure, to josh's point, i'm not sure that it isn't yet a priority. i think it is a priority of the administration. it's a matter of resources and then definitions. what are they going to determine to be a religious interference crime and what priority will they be giving resources to enforce those things? but i think this will be a catalyst for sessions to do what he's wanted to do all along, which is prosecute these types of cases. >> yep. and again, just as we sit here and we were sitting here yesterday and i know it's late on a saturday night but i can't not remind everyone the week that was with the two black americans killed in that grocery store in kentucky and then the
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pipe bombs. obviously these people targeted, many of them for their political views, critics of this president and now members of the jewish faith clearly targeted because of what they believe. just sit on that for a second. lastly, his beliefs. gab.com. for people, again, who are just sort of tuning in and learning about what has happened today, who this individual is, tell us more about liz anti-semitic rants online. >> clearly anti-jewish. he had issues with the caravan. he had issues with people who when supporting some of the immigration movement, the caravan, and was in some ways pro trump you could argue on some of this stuff. >> he said he didn't vote for trump, he doesn't like trump because he surrounded himself with so many jews. >> you behad issues with tbut h caravan. it's a troeshz trove for us to
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understand and law enforcement to understand what his mindset was, what he was thinking and how he was thinking. and also the post, he made a post just minutes before. he posted just minutes before the attack like it was go time, i'm going in. it's an interesting sort of platform for people to communicate on. they protect -- they tout themselves as protecting free speech and -- >> they don't monitor. unlike twitter and afghanistfac other sites, if you put hate speech out they're going to yank it down. and apparently this gab.com which many of us never heard of until today is a place for bigots, for extremists to -- >> yeah. it's a platform for hate, essentially. or at least it allows that to go -- to fester. and maybe this will be part of the effort. michael mentioned maybe this catalyst we see to become better as a country where we actually look and see okay, we all believe in first amendment free speech. but if that comes up and runs up alongside inciting violence
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that's something we need to look at. if i can end just quickly with a positive note. >> please. >> in the midst of tragedy one thing -- we've seen so many of these types of tragedies, so many of these types of incidents, but the one thing that continues is obviously we have our leaders that will disagree with certain things that they do. we'll talk about the policies we want them to implement. but the country's more than our leaders. right? and i think what we have seen, just to again on some positive note if there is one-s after each of these tragedies one thing holds true and that is the country comes together to the extent that you have people looking here, people are mourning for the jewish community today in the uths of america and one thing that's always -- the commonality with these attacks is the bad guy always loses. yeah, he's killed people and we mourned their loss but we can come together as a country and say we're more than that, we're better than this. there may be hate festering out there but this is the aberration and then we have that national conversation about how do we get past this and prevent this from
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happening. >> sure. but nobody wants the next one. guys, i'm going to say thank you all so very much. michael and shimon and josh. we have this just in also from the white house here. we'll show you live pictures. there it is. the president ordered the flags half staff in honor of those synagogue shooting victims. live pictures. the white house. we'll be right back. why didn'at hilton.com,r family vacation on a travel site? i get the price match guarantee. and i can choose from their 14 different hotel brands, so i get the right hotel for every member of my family. like a doubletree for my cousins who love their warm chocolate chip cookies. a homewood suites for my uncle who likes a long stay. a hampton for my sister and her kids. that's a lot of syrup. and the waldorf astoria beverly hills for me. but i thought your family vacation was in miami? it is. i hear they're having a great time. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee. if you find a lower rate, we match it and give you 25% off that stay. you don't always use your smartphone for directions... are we there yet? hey guys, up there.
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of these anti-semitic and also anti-immigrant views. that said, i really want to focus in on this community, squirrel hill in pittsburgh. zachary weiss is with me on the phone. his father stephen was actually inside the synagogue when the gunman opened fire. zachary, i don't even know if i have the full words to express our deepest, deepest sympathies to your community, to the jewish community for this heinous crime that happened in this synagogue. how are you holding up? how's your family? how's your dad? >> it's been -- the day's been what it's been, to be honest with you, brooke. and we really appreciate speaking -- i don't want to speak necessarily on behalf of the congregation, but the outpouring of love and support, not just citywide, statewide, but really worldwide is -- it's nice -- unfortunate that it's in
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this instance, but it's nice to see that there's been so much support and outpouring. and we obviously ask that that extends beyond today and beyond tomorrow and beyond the days to come. but it's been tough. my father, fortunately, was able to make it back home. he is 100% healthy. he's safe, unharmed. the real savior of the day was all those who sacrificed in one way, form, or another and the fact that there was an active shooter training that was put into place last year that a lot of people including my father took which really was able to help in the event of this active tragic shooter incident. >> that's what we heard, that you all practiced. you practiced an active shooter drill. and you had to, you know -- you were prepared for what happened today. i was talking to the head of the adl earlier and he was telling people that there was a bris happening this morning.
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was there a baby boy all part of this, what happened? >> well, there's been a lot of confusion in regards to this. and my answer to that is this, that there -- the synagogue is called tree of life, but there are also two other synagogues that rent space in the synagogue. so at the same time there were two services, one of which was from the tree of life and then there was another service from a separate synagogue called d dor hadash and new life did have a bris. so there was a bris, a third event that was also occurring at the synagogue and between the three synagogues it would be fair to guesstimate probably about 30 to 40 individuals were at the synagogue at the time. >> i understand. what did your father share with you that you feel comfortable sharing with us? >> it all felt like slow motion. i think the first thing that occurred was he heard a loud noise and a couple of congregants went to investigate
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the loud noise because it was quite possible maybe a senior citizen hay horrific fall or maybe there was some kind of material or something at the synagogue which caused a loud noise. and when a xufcouple of the congregants went down the noise was unmistakable. from then on it was treated like an active shooter situation. my dad was actually not supposed to be there. the family was actually supposed to be on vacation, and it was canceled. and at the 11th hour my dad, who's been a 29-year member of the tree of life or l'simcha congregation and has worn many hats during that as many others have, was called in to assist the rabbi who was feeling a little under the weather and they helped lead the tree of life portion of the service. and when everything occurred with the active shooter situation following that alice training which was the security measure i mentioned in the previous answer, they were able to hide in place and then my dad was able to go down to the bris and make sure they were aware,
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which they were already hiding. when he was upstairs, he explained to me as he was headed up he saw casings moving and he expressed that he was roughly five feet away from the moving casings but did not get a clear image of the gunman. and he was able to go back to the tree of life congregation, and he couldn't find anybody. i'm not sure how familiar you are, brooke, with the alice acronym. but the e stands for evacuate. when dad saw everybody was hid nen place he did that evacuation and he was safely able to evacuate himself from the synagogue. >> thank goodness. zachary, last yes. a lot of people learn about the squirrel hill community tonight. what do you want the world to know about you? >> i want the world to know about the squirrel hill communication -- squirrel hill community, rather, excuse me, that we're a very loving and together community. and this is one of the safest neighborhoods if not the safest
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in the city of pittsburgh. and this was a tragic accident -- i wouldn't consider it an accident. but it was very, very tragic what happened and what unfolded from the morning and going on through. and please do not -- i would advise the viewership not to forget this moment, not today, not tomorrow, and not moving forward because unfortunately incidents like these are becoming all too familiar to our society. and however that needs to change that needs to change. and this awareness is definitely an important step. and i appreciate the platform and that happening. although others in the congregation may not be speaking as much right now i know they appreciate the support as well and they continue to ask for that support. >> zachary, how old are you? >> i >> i'm 26. >> 26. i'm so glad you, your father -- i'm glad your father's okay. our deepest condolences for your community. zachary, thank you. >> i appreciate that.
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and i'm glad my brother and my mother, we're all safe. we have a happy ending. but there's at least 11 others that don't. i'm definitely thinking about them and the injured as well. >> we all are. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up here on cnn, investigators are searching the suspect's house, trying to find more clues. we'll hear from some of his neighbors next. ...for that, and just a second, we also have the mendez mediation. brian is going to take the lead just follow his- hello. uh, no i need it right now. yeah... success is a numbers game. and you're not going to win if you keep telling yourself to wait. the more often that you choose courage, the more likely you'll succeed. the most inspiring minds. the most compelling stories. download audible. and listen for a change. this is not a screensaver.game. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's own immune system, thanks to medicine that didn't exist until now.
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investigators are trying to learn more about the pittsburgh shooter here. federal agents converged on this apartment complex where he lived. miguel marquez is outside his home. and miguel, you tell me what we see behind you. >> reporter: federal agents have been going through his apartment just behind me for many, many hours now. they took no chances, though. they sealed off the neighborhood. they moved the bomb squad in to make sure there was nothing that
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could endanger them as they went about their work. and for the last several hours members of the fbi and atf have been in that apartment going in and out, bringing some things out, taking gear in as they go through piece by piece and try to form a portrait of this man and look for evidence of what he did as we. neighbors saying -- i've spoken to several of them now. one of them said -- saw the car come and go, didn't really know him at all. another said talked to him a xum couple of times. fine. one guy said he didn't seem friendly, not unfriendly. his fiance told him that he was a truck driver and he was a fairly normal guy that kind of kept to himself. the only thing he thought was odd is that he would listen to the -- or watch tv at a very loud volume at odd hours. he was here for a few days, gone for others. mr. bowers seemed to have not only this residence but several in the area over the last
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several years. but for as quiet as he was in his home life, he was certainly more vocal online, posting about the caravan that is making its way from central america and his anger at that. at a jewish refugee resettlement organization, hias, or the hebrew immigrant aid society and his anger at that. they were down at the border, made a video down there. he keyed on that. and then moments before going into that synagogue saying i can't sit by and let my people get slaughtered, screw your optics, i'm going in. brooke? >> it's incredible, though, because of everything he wrote on this social media site, the treasure trove that law enforcement had. despite the fact he wasn't known to law enforcement, no criminal history that we know of. miguel marquez, thank you so much there at his home in pittsburgh. you know, the past 72 hours in this country have been filled with tragic rhetoric and worse, hateful action just beyond
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comprehension. and if you are asking like i am, like so many people-r what is going on in america, you are not alone. let's try and put this in perspective. coming up next. minimums and fees. they seem to be the very foundation of your typical bank. capital one is anything but typical. that's why we designed capital one cafes. you can get savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimums. and one of america's best savings rates. to top it off, you can open one from anywhere in 5 minutes. this isn't a typical bank. this is banking reimagined. what's in your wallet?
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tonight let's take aook back at just the past 72 hours in america. you go to wednesday. police say a white man walked into a grocery store in kentucky, shot and killed two african-americans, and a witness reportedly heard the gunman saying "whites don't shoot whites." that was wednesday. also a few minutes before the man had tried to walk into a
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predominantly black church nearby. flash forward to friday. the fbi arrested a florida man who authorities say mailed 13 ieds, pipe bombs across the country. the targets included former presidents, a former vice president, and a former secretary of state. those targets were all people the president had specifically called out. right? that's politically motivated. and finally today, a man who frequently posted anti-semitic hate-laced comments online, he terrorized this place of worship, this synagogue in pittsburgh, pennsylvania on the day of saturday shabbat services, killing 11 people. 11. and wounding six others. this is what the last three days in america looked like. fear and terror and violence. cnn presidential historian tim naftali is with me now. and again, the adl saying they believe this is the deadliest attack on the jewish community in the history of the united
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states. what is going on? >> well, brooke, it's a sad thing to say, but it's true. that anti-semitism is like the canary in the mine shaft for our country. >> how do you mean? >> when we are heading or we are in moments of a lot of late and intolerant, you see a spike in anti-schmidtic behavior. the america first movement in the 1930s had a deep undercurrent of anti-semitism. the reason that america did not bring and allow more jewish refugees into this country was that many of the isolationists did not like jews. charles lindbergh. the great charles lindbergh who flew across the atlantic solo without stopping was the symbol of the america first movement, and he spiced his speeches and arguing against involvement in the european war with attacks on jews. in the mccarthy period there was
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a deep undercurrent of anti-semitism that ran through the understandable concern about communism but for many people judaism and communism were completely mixed together. in the '70s there was an uptick in anti-semitism, which is why the jdl began to take -- begin statistics, collecting statistics about anti-semitic activities in the '70s. and now. so i think that today's attack was not an attack just on jewish americans. because it was an attack on people because of whom they worship, who they are, it's an attack on all of us. so when these poor people are buried, america is burying its dead. this is a sign of a deep sickness in our country. and it is a sickness that cannot be solved by talking about republicans or democrats. it's a sickness that we
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periodically see and it's a test of our ability as americans to find our basic values and stand up for them. we did it in world war ii. we did it in the '50s. we did it by coming to some understanding of the vietnam war. and we're going to do it again, i hope. >> you were talking as we were chatting in commercial break about the burden that people suffer with the history of genocide. talk to me about that. >> well, i think that -- i think that if you have a jewish friend this is a particularly difficult moment. when an attack occurs and it starts with "all the jews must die" or whatever that horrible man said, the effect on anyone
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of a people that has suffered genocide is much stronger than the basic human empathy that one should have when people die needlessly. it's like how a tutsi would feel in rwanda if someone, a hutu again said kill all tutsis. it's the way that the herrero people and the namo people in today's namibia would feel. it's the way armenian people and the way jews feel all around the world when someone yells and feels comfortable yelling "all the jews must die" and goes ahead and does it. i think there's a special historical burden. the jewish people and the tutsis and others. and this hits at the core. and there's a historical burden of those around them to understand that this is a particularly traumatic moment for members of the american community who happen to be jewish americans. >> thank you for that. >> it's a terrible day.
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♪ while this investigation continues into this alleged killer's motivation, this man posted a number of anti-semitic statements on social media. chuck diamond was a rabbi at the tree of life synagogue until last year. he joins us live. rabbi diamd, my sincerest condolences to you. i know you have been out there all day long. you live in this community. you were the rabbi for this synagogue for seven years. how did you first hear about this? >> well, brooke, thank you. i was at home and i got a call from somebody a few minutes after, i think, while it was still happening and somebody said, "did you hear what happened at the tree?" and i started getting texts and e-mails and i decided i could be of some help to maybe get outside. i live a couple of blocks from
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the synagogue, and i just wanted to get out and comfort people as best i could. >> and it is my understanding, rabbi diamond, when the shooting started it was during shabbat services. was there a brisk taking place as well? >> you know, i heard that story but i have not confirmed it so i'm not sure. there was another at another synagogue and i suspect it was maybe mixed up but i don't know for sure. >> okay. i know that -- >> the shooting -- >> go ahead, sir. go ahead. >> the shooting took place at about, i think, a quarter to 9:00 is when services start, and there are three congregations who share the space. it is a beautiful building. so at the beginning of services, there aren't a lot of people there i have to say. that was, i guess, fortunate for the people who come later. >> sure. >> but i knew exactly who would be there, the regulars who always come, who you can depend on, and, unfortunately, some of
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them didn't make it out alive. >> i wanted to ask you about that, and, of course, i don't want to get ahead of law enforcement. i know they will be identifying the victims, we've heard, tomorrow morning. >> yes. >> but you know some of those. >> right. >> those lives lost. >> yes. >> what can you share? >> well, i think they were good people. there was one elderly woman in her 90s who would come with a smile on her face every single week no matter what the weather. i believe her daughter was shot but is doing okay. there was another man who just the synagogue was his home since he was a kid, and the synagogue took care of him and he was always there to greet people when they came in. whenever i would go to services when i was a rabbi, he was always there to greet me. they're just good people in all three congregations. unfortunately, you know, it is
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such a tragedy as you know, brooke. >> for people, rabbi diamond, who have never stepped foot in a synagogue, it is a house of worship, it is a sanctuary, it is a safe space. for people who have never heard the mourner's kadesh, for example, it is a jewish prayer that marks the death of a loved one. >> right. >> can you in your own words, how egregious this attack was? %-p. we have sanctuaries we want to feel safe in, not only synagogues and churches but our schools as well and we don't feel safe there. when i was a rabbi i felt a great responsibility for the congregation, and i have to say i always thought in recent times in the back of my mind of something like this happening. it is just a terrible state we live in. you guys have to cover this too many times. >> agreed. agreed. and this is your community --
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>> and i also want to say, brooke -- >> please, go ahead. go ahead. >> i wanted to say also the first responders and the people, the law enforcement, just so brave and do such a good job. >> extraordinary. >> also, i'll tell you, the news people i have talked to have just been comforting. you also do a good job. i just wanted to state that because of the times we live in today. appreciate it. >> i appreciate you. i appreciate you. just lastly, it was your community, your literal community, your jewish community was attacked because of your beliefs. what do you want to communicate to your community tonight? >> well, first of all, pittsburgh is a wonderful city, and the jewish community is great. i believe all parts of the jewish community get along together, and i feel that we were all attacked. i spoke to other rabbis from other movements within judaism,
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and we feel personally violated. i believe the people in pittsburgh feel personally violated, too. this isn't necessarily about just being jewish, although clearly it seems to be an anti-semitic act, but it is against humanity and what is good in humanity. i think that, you know, i'm tired of throwing up my hands when things like this happen and saying, "what can we do." i think we need to take some sort of action. i hope our leaders are leaders and take action. there's a lot involved in this issue. i think for the short term we have to provide comfort for those in the community and we have to watch each other's back and we have to be there for each other. >> it is sad that this is america in 2018. rabbi chuck diamond, thank you so much. >> hard to believe. >> hard to believe indeed. >> thank you, brooke. take care. >> thank you. also last hour i talked to the ceo of the anti-defamation
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league and he told me about how he was learning of this tragic, tragic news as he himself was walking out of shabbat services this morning. here he was. >> this is the most lethal and violent attack on the jewish community in america in the history of this country. >> just stop for a second on that. that is profound and profoundly sad. >> it is sad and, brooke, it will be more sad tomorrow as the stories of the victims come out. i have -- what i have heard already is heartbreaking. i think first and foremost, our thoughts need to go out to the families and the victims who went into a synagogue to worship, who went into a synagogue to pray, and there was a brist taking place. there was a ceremony. >> there was a -- go ahead and explain what it is. >> when a boy baby is born, eight days into its life it is brought to the synagogue for a service where the baby gets its name. at this moment of hope, suddenly
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there was this act of horror where a man ran into the synagogue with automatic weapons and murdered in cold blood 11 people, whose only crime, of course, whose only offense, of course, was that they were jewish and that they were praying. so it is hard to imagine something more despicable and i think very sad overall. an attack on the jewish community, but it is also an attack on our country. these are all our values, these are all our children. this is any one of us. >> i was talking to a friend whose mother is afraid of stepping foot in a synagogue now. what is your message as these moms and dads were at services this morning where anyone was allowed in on a saturday morning. >> sure. >> what is your message to the jewish community tonight? >> yeah, brooke, i learned about this incident when i walked out of my own synagogue this morning and i looked at my phone as i walked out the door. so i will tell you this.
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we cannot let the white supremacists, we cannot let the bigots and haters win. so we need to introduce security protocols at all of our synagogues and any house of worship, as i said before, and we need our leaders to lead and to call this out when it happens immediately, intentionally and honestly. >> what do you want them to say specifically? >> to say that hate has no place in our country. to say that we can't imagine a world in which this country isn't appreciated for what it is, the most diverse, the most enriched country in the world. i think our jewish community along with our muslim community along with our sikh community, along with our christian and those who don't worship, we're all in this together. i wish our elected leaders would remind us of that and turn down the rhetoric. that's what we need. >> that was jonathan greenblatt, the head of the adl. thank you so much for being with me these last three hours with
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