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domestic terror and hate crimes this week started on monday with an apparent pipe bomb sent to george soros, and politicians, former u.s. presidents, other leading democratic politicians and two of them were intended here at cnn. one of the package as you know ended up in the mailroom at cnn in new york and the other package found in a mail office. and saturday we all hear about pittsburgh, a man walking into that synagogue there killing 11 people and injuring six others including four police officers. pittsburgh is really now from the newspaper front pages across pennsylvania as the state and as the country tries to make sense of it all. you know, there are so many good people in the world. so many good people spnrespondi to these crimes right now.
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but then there are these darker forces as well. and what we all have in common and all share is social media but also this poisoned environment. we have to look closely at the poison being spread sometimes on television, sometimes at the mouth of political leaders and oftentimes on ugly, dark corners of social media. so that's something we're going to examine here in the hour to come. i want to make one more point before we bring in the panel, and that is to take a look at the suspect in pittsburgh's post on gab. gab is this version of twitter. it's an alternative to twitter. it's become very popular among hate groups and bigots because you can post pretty much anything on there no matter how ugly. he posted i noticed a change in people saying illegals, that now say invaders. i like this. he's talking about the migrant caravan portrayed by far right
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wing media as an invasion. five minutes before thet shooing he posted on gab again hias, it likes to bring in invaders, he says that kill our people. i can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. screw your optics, i'm going in. we know the suspect in p pittsburgh was deeply anti-semitic. that was the root of his evil. but he was also anti-immigrant, talking about this invasion that's not actually happening. and yet who's been telling him it's happening? that's a part of the conversation we have to have today. bill crystal is with me, margaret sullivan and in washington matt lewis. bill, if i can get started with you, president trump mentioned you by name at a rally yesterday. you've also been outspoken about some of the problems in right wing media as it relates to some of this. what is your reaction first of
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all to this hate filled week in america? >> obviously it's horrible and deeply depressing. i do think the coming together of his anti-semitism and his hatr hatr hatred of jews, which was already there, and hias it's one of the organizes who helped resettle holocaust survivors, and a 97-year-old woman n synagogue yesterday, and they helped resettle soviet jews and non-jews, so they helped with resettlement. they worked with the u.s. government. and one thing donald trump could have said last night if he were in the mood to say nice things were to praise these agencies, which are mostly volunteers, nonprofits burking in these u.s. government programs. but he hates jews, hates immigrants and went ahead and
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killed a lot of people. >> and when you be a toxic political and media environment, of course, you know, this is where the 101 correlation of blaming "x" for "y" doesn't make sense. certainly my fellow republicans, oechl oh, these are just tweets, you know the policies are good. how about this? he's helped create an environment -- right wing media, parts of it, have made this much more acceptable. their coverage of the caravan and the danger of these immigrants. last night after i think it was the killing, right, someone on fox business had a guest talking
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about what was it the soros occupied state department. >> let's pull that up. i don't want to play the clip from lou dobbs because it's so gross, no one is giving it more oxygen. but lou dobbs had a guest on saying the caravan was being funded or directed by the soros cot pied state. >> that's a play as a very familiar anti-semitic trope. so this brings it all together. so it's all evil jews occupying u.s. government and bring in invaders into this country. you don't have to go that far unfortunately not just right wing websites but even fox news. >> but fox news is going to say are you blaming them?
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>> i'm blaming them for putting that on the air in realtime and 12 hours later not saying anything. i'm blaming the management of fox and the investors in fox and some of the other talent who are decent people at fox for saying nothing. if you watch fox and read about it and see clips, they're going to say it's not just fox, they're making money. >> you're saying it's time to talk about this, we can't ignore this. margaret you said look at all these targets, it reads like a list of shawn hannity emphasis pre-broadcast crib notes. that was the way you put it in your "the washington post" column. again, are you blaming the hannitys of the world? >> i think they have a share of this sort of revving up of hatred without regard for what
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its affect might be and without much regard for the truth. i mean the way things are being pitched on fox and in pro-trump right-wing media is dangerous, and it's destructive. so i think we need to call it what it is. >> matt lewis, let me get you in here. your perspective on this. your a cnn commentator and also a daily beast analyst, how aria taking this conversation about fox's role in particular. >> look, i agree with everything that's been said and i think look we're all responsible. we have a megaphone and we're all responsible for helping create or foster what is a very toxic, political environment right now. and i think our politicians have perverse inceptives to gen up their base for elections and
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same thing with websites, with clicks and tweets. i agree with everything that we've said so far today. the only thing i would add is tomorrow it could be shawn hannity who's targeted or a republican congressman who's targeted. and while i agree with the condemnation of what fox has done in terms of ginning up this anger over the caravan, i think this is much more widespread problem. i think all the cable networks engage in fostering this anger and toxic environment. and that's sort of where i would take it. i think this is much bigger problem. it has to do with media, perverse incentives -- >> -- of false equivalency between fox and others? >> no, i don't think it's a false equivalency. i think we have a pervasive
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problem that has to do with our politicians who have per vase incentives to gin up anger. and i think we have a media environment that needs ratings. i was just watching fareed zakaria. i thought that was a really intelligent thoughtful show, but by and large cable news is toxic shout fest. i think it contributes to the anger weave in america right now, and i do think at the risk of sounding like donald trump in charlottesville where i think he was wrong, but i do think that in this case there's a problem on both sides. we had a republican congressman a year ago who was shot. this is a problem. this could happen tomorrow to a republican politician. >> yes, look there's security outside the fox news headquarters. unfortunately, they've had squad cars out there for years because of threats at fox. this is not an issue that's unique to one side or another or one news outlet or another.
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>> but it's not even. >> but margaret sullivan, you're disagreeing with what matt was saying. >> i think in fact there is a false equivalency here. and when we talk ability the media, we need to stop and think about what that means. are we talking about fox? are we talking about breitbart, "the new york times," "the washington post"? you know, i think it's important to break it down a little bit because there's so little trust in the need media generally that's it's actually not that useful for us to make these broadside attacks on the media. >> and it's not right. i mean, this shoe is not like lou dobbs on fox business. the weekly sarnd is not like breitbart. there's blame to go around and god clearly irresponsible people on the left, right. and there are haters on all sides, i guess you'd say. but in this precise case with a
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president of the united states, that's what makes this different, echoing one particular strain of this, and that strain way more out of control than whatever you find on cnn or msnbc or on other places. i don't believe there's any equivalence. >> give me one second, matt, to get kathleen. you made a kmenlt off air what trips a person into violence is not understood. we're not going to entirely understand what makes someone go off like that. >> we're not. but we do know you can create a climate conducive to it or less conducive to it. first, calling someone an enemy is highly problematic characterization and should be reserved for those uses in which we have a real definable enemy. defining someone as evil is problematic. nikkei haley made an important point when she said our opponents are evil. they're simply our opponents.
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i when the president said this act is evil he was saying something important. but he's made it harder to use in that setting. let's stop calling other people evil and let's stop assuming people are trying to destroy us when in fact they're not. define an enemy. under those circumstances we actually mobilize countries to kill people in other countries. let's reserve that rhetoric for moments where it's actually necessary. >> i mean she presumably wishes donald trump well, and she felt it important to do this. what does that tell you about donald trump? >> here's what i'm wondering, matt, this kind of conversation happens, some of trump's biggest supporters hear it and they say you all are railing against the problem, you're the problem and
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the vicious cycle continues. is there any way to change that? >> it's really tough. and first i'll agree with bill crystal. i think although we all have a platform and a part to play in this culture that we've fostered there's nobody more important than the president of the united states, whoever that may be to set the tone, and i think donald trump has abdicated that responsibility, and that's a huge, huge problem. i would say going back to my earlier -- you know, at the risk of being accused of what aboutism, i would go back and say i see on non-fox news because there are main stream media cable outlets people talk about racist, talk about separating fammies, talk about if you're against obamacare you want to kill millions of americans. i think that kind of rhetoric also contributes to this bitterness. and what we can do each and every one of us i think try to police ourselves as best we can. that rhetoric where we call
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people our enemies of the people, which horribly horrific. and as someone who works for cnn i have a personal stake in not seeing the media that way. i believe most people who work in journalism are good people. we need journalists to hold powerful people accountable. but i also think this is business, this is an industry that needs ratings. just like facebook wants to keep you addicted, wants to keep you fired up. just like donald trump wants to keep his republican base addicted and fired up, i think cable news by and large has a similar business model, and i just interest to call it out. >> i'd rather generate ratings covering anything than this kind of story, though. people are thought rooting for these kinds of crimes. i know you're not suggesting that, but i want to be clear there's lot of ways to get ratings. it doesn't have to involve mass
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murder. it doesn't have to involve covering mass murder. >> but we have panels and shout fests where we call each other racist, and i don't think that causes somebody to go out and do something horrific, but i think it does contribute to this culture that ultimately somebody who is volinabulnerable whether shawn hannity or msnbc, i think all of it plays a part where we are. and i think we have these perverse incentives. >> margaret, your last word on this block? >> yes, media plays a part and i don't doubt that. but when you think of all the things president trump could have voiced this week, and he did give voice to some in a tepid way, he also spent an
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awful lot of time blaming the media again in a completely inappropriate way as i see it. i mean, that's not what he should be calling attention to right now. at this time of crisis, much of which he has brought about through in his own rhetoric to blame the media is just simply wrong. >> i'll never understand why he's tweeting about baseball on a week like this. thanks for being here. i'll take a quick break and talk about a day we're not going to forget here in this building. we're going to jump in. >> there's a fire alarm here in the background. we're going find out what the latest here. >> what's changing at cnn as a result right after the commercial.
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the news happened right here at cnn new york earlier this week when that suspicious package arrived in the newsroom and this newsroom was evacuated. some of you may have heard it live on tv. of course at the time they were covering the other packages that had been spent to the clintons and the obamas. within a few minutes poppy and jim were outside along with the rest of the cnn staff. and the entire company here, all of warner media, even the whole foods in the basement, the set went dark and they went outside. we have the pictures of what it was like out on the street when the evacuation happened.
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and as i'm sure you saw jim and poppy went back live this time on a cellphone. someone loaded up the skype app and was able to get this thing back on a nearby hotels and restaurants. and consistent coverage outside the building almost all day. it wasn't until late afternoon we were allowed back inside here. i have to say i was so proud to be a cnn employee this week. to see how this company, the tv network, the digital operation all mobilized in a crisis. cnn president swruker e-mailed us updates in the next hour, and there was a loud round of applause for our security personnel, and swruker announced a change. from now on all mail destined for cnn will be screened first at an off-site location. it's a sad sign of our times.
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last night cnn thanked those woo worked to keep us safe. newsrooms across the country are making changes. you might have seen this as well. days before the suspected bomb arrived here a man in washington, d.c. kicked through the doors of wttg, that's a local fox affiliate. he kicked through both doors, started to get in the building and then a security guard shot him once, so he was taken down. scares like these have journalists and newsrooms across the country on high alert. now, let's continue our conversation now. cnn media analyst bill carter is joining the table. bill, you used to work "the new york times." so did i. now there are these new concrete barriers outside "the new york times" building around the street. another sign of heightened security in this day and age. >> it's remarkable.
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news people are dedicated professionals. that's what we do. we don't put out messages filled with hate and make us targets, but we've become targets. and it's a terrible sign of our times. and also a sign we're in a position we've never been in this country. what's happening here in this country is nothing -- i've been around for a long time. it's nothing i've ever seen before. and i remember the vaet pneumwar and protests and everything else. this is at a height and level of venom and hate i've never seen. and unfortunately i believe it's being encouraged in places and frankly the responsibility has to fall on those people and they really have to step back. >> and you're talking about the president? >> the president has demagogued so many issues and he's calling the press the enemy of the people. those code words are very dangerous in my opinion. >> and what wave seen this week are attempts to attack the core
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of our democracy, political leaders, news outlets and places of worship. these are our fundamental tenants and a lot of this comes back to what they've been seeing on tv and these caravans, and immigrants are threatening people -- and the jews -- and this does not sound like america to me. instead he says, well, i take this tone because the media makes me take this tone. the lip service is, oh, i'm very upset about it because that's the teleprompter version of him. the off the cough version of him is well, my hair was wet. that's really my concern today. and frankly i only take this tone because they're putting these words in my mouth to say
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these terrible things that women look like horses and mexicans are -- >> that's him. that's not the media saying it. >> this week has been particularly bad, but we have to look at this in a historical perspective and say there's always been loons out there? >> we have. but now we're in an environment to say -- when standing at a rally and a person next to one is wearing a t-shirt that says journalist or some assembly required or a political leader inside its cross hairs the people standing next to that person needs to say i agree to supporting this candidate, and the candidate shaets speaking from the podium needs to say i want you to take that t-shirt off, that's not who we are. >> and the head of cnn on
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wednesday oegsed a statement to the white house really saying there's a total and complete lack of understanding at the white house about the seriousness of their continued attacks on the media. the president and especially the white house press secretary should understand their words matter. thus fair they have shown no comp he comprehension of that. >> and brian, it's actually become very difficult to even sort of keep track of these things. they tend to kind of blend together in our minds, and it's very dangerous that we're at the point where each day brings a new terror and a new reason for fear. and it is this fear mongering i think by the president and some of those around him including -- including right wing media that is a huge part of the problem. >> so matt lewis, tell me i think there's kind of three kinds of americans right now. there are those who have been
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told by trump the biggest threat is the caravan, and those who think the caravan is the biggest threat, people influenced by rhetoric, and then there's people exhausted by all of this. there are people who just can't take it. >> right, and i think in a way all three of those things is very pad. the last example you give could lead people not to vote or not to be involved. they tune out or become apathetic. and then the other extremes i think lead to bad things as well. this goes to my larger point about the erverperverse incenti. donald trump is creating an environment where it's very difficult for somebody like me who's in the media to be critical of the media. when he calls us the enemies of the people he basically has declared war in in a very irresponsible way on the media. and i think the media have taken the bait and called war on him.
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i think if we can hold ourselves to a higher standard, i think there is a problem with liberal media bias, and a bigger problem with salaciousness, and the last point i'm saying is i am very worried and i think it's well within the realm of possibility that we could see some sort of serious violent attack that works, that actually is successful on the media or on a media personality. we have to take this very, very seriously and the president needs to lead by toning down, by calming things down here. >> to our panel, thank you so hutch. some breaking news right along these lines as we're talking wnyt a local tv station has announced a bomb threat was called into its studio this morning, studios had to be evacuated and police are investigate. news rooms across the country having to face this. much more here here
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leave no room behind with xfi pods. simple. easy. awesome. click or visit a retail store today. president or fox news pundit? let's talk about it. i went looking for the president in charlottesville friday. but he started the day at 3:14 a.m. by bashing cnn. a few hours later another apparent bomb addressed to cnn was found in the mail nearby
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here. the president tweeted again putting bomb in kwoelgs, down-playing what he called this bomb stuff and worrying about what he called the gop's mid-term chances. those are the actions of a fox talking head, not a president. so i included charlotte. when i reflected on my coverage of the 2016 election i regretted i had never been to a trump rally. i thought i should have experienced it for myself. well, as you know he's had lots of rallies this month, so i had booked this before the mail bombs. walking into the arena a big screen tells you the sign-up for the real news by signing up for twitter and facebook. but by talking to the rally goers i could tell many of them were already signed up. they knew the lyrics to his songs and sometimes they sang along. this is video i shot from inside
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the press pen, and it really is pen. you can see cnn, fox, nbc working and all the camera crews on the riser and then thousands of goers all around the room. when you're in that pen you really do feel like a zoo animal. before the rally people are gawking at you, taking pictures, saying you're fake news, enemy of the people. one guy asked me if shawn hannity was going to be there, another said he wanted to meet jim accost. there are hard core rally goers but others hang in the back. they don't love everything trump says, but they still want to see the show. some folks were rude, calling me names, heckling me during my live shots. others were very friendly. these two guys wanted to selfies. we talked about the news and the weather. the thing is parts of the crowd
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are chanting cnn sucks, but then after they did that one of the men walked over and said, hey, nothing personal, another said we're glad you're here. what you see is the individual versus the collective. you can see how someone can fire up a crowd and point energy in a certain direction. some of them seem to think the enemy of the people stuff is just a performance like prowrestling, but others seem to truly believe it, and that's the heart of the problem. trump is leading a hate movement against the media. i mean, he kept it up all this week. no, not everybody in his crowd believes it, but some do. and that is dangerous. now, you might have heard that tv crews traveled to these rallies with security. and that's true. the networks don't like to talk about this, we don't want to draw attention to, but security is there in case anything gets out of hand. so did i feel like i was in danger there, not at all.
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but the boos and the insults can feel intimidating. and that brings me back to looking for a president, looking for presidential leadership. here's what it was like in the arena on friday when trump started his media bashing. >> we must unify as a nation in peace, love and in harmony. the media has a major role to play -- [ audience booing ] >> cnn sucks! >> and they do indeed, they have a major role to play as far as tone and as far as everything. >> what's news worthy is what trump didn't do. he didn't try to tamp down the
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jeers of cnn after a week of bombs in the mail. instead he soaked up the jeers, he revelled in the chants. he wasn't channelling the friendly faces who came over to my earlier and said we're all people, we all love each other. he wasn't channelling the people who were asking me questions about journalism and wanted to know more. he wasp fanning the flames and not just about the media either. when he tells his scary stories about illegal immigration and he rails against democrats, he's in fox news pundit mode, not president mode. he makes the crowd angrier. the next day, saturday, the president rightly tweeted about the evil attack in pittsburgh. he said we must unite to conquer hate. yes, so when are you going to start? ...or to laugh out loud. ♪ but when it matters most, you count on tracfone to keep you connected for less.
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welcome back. we all know the benefits the advantages of social media. the interetnet is one of the mo powerful invengs tions of the history of the world. we've seen how suspects in hate crimes and domestic terrorist attacks have shared hate, shared sae semitism, shared conspiracy theories on social networks. the gunman logged onto a social network called gab and said i'm going in. we know he frequently targeted jews on his twitter posts -- i'm sorry, his gab posts before he targeted jews in person. vulnerable people go down digital rabbit holes of hate and
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conspiracy theories and hoaxes, and some end up doing awful things. i think our information environment is polluted in many ways. so how does a free society grapple with that knowing how many benefits come from the internet, how valuable free expression is free speech rights are. how do we grapple with this? let's talk about it with oliver darcy and gq correspondent julia. the company is known as being like a free speech oasis. you can post whatever you want. in reality that means a lot of hate groups, a lot of bigots use the site to spread hate and lies. how are they reacting this weekend? >> well, their ceo has said very clearly that gab is not going anywhere. he said that in a post last night. he said they will do whatever they can to make sure it stays online even if it means building the site from the ground up. they say it's a free speech
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platform and they believe in unlimited free speech basically but it really is a cesspool for hate. i mean, if you go on this website it is just terrible. the worst kind of anti-semitic, racist, sexist comments are on there. and those comments thrive on this platform. they're encouraged. users egg on other users and get more and more extreme me. if they want validation it's very easy to go on this website, say these terrible things, find these other users, network with them and encourage each other. it's terrible and really disturbing to me. >> unfortunately, julia, you have some first-hand experience with this. i was hoping you could tell us about some of the experiences you've had on sites like twitter, sites like facebook where there are more rules on gab but still so much nastiness gets through. >> what you're referring to happened back in the spring of 2016 when i wrote a story about melania trump.
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this was when donald trump was still running for president, was still a candidate. melania trump did not like the article and made her displeasure known publicly and a bunch of alt right people came at me first with holocaust memes, gas chamber memes that then turned into real threats of violence, real death threats. but i do want to take issue with your premise here. i think twitter, facebook, gab, these are all tools and there were tools like this before them. there were the printing press, the pamphlets. most importantly the political moment and the people at the top who set the tone of what's acceptable and what isn't and who whip up a certain level of hate and anger and a fear of the other. you know, in the '90s when we had to oklahoma city bombing and a revival of white supremacist militias, they didn't have gab and twitter. but they certainly got their
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message across. in fact rand paul's father ran some of these pamphlets and news letters and went out to some of these people. again, it's just a tool in the hands of people to give it the content. >> and it's super charged now, though. it can be network, it's viral now in a different way. >> but it's super charged by the president of the united states. and people around him like kevin mccarthy who trumpet these conspiracy theories, these clear anti-semitic dog whistles, these racist whistles. again, there was twitter before donald trump. i was thought getting death threats before donald trump started running for president, and i had a twitter account years before the president ran. >> as you mention twitter let me bring up another example of this. lewis faracan has been under a lot of criticism rightfully so
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for hateful things he said and hateful things he posted online. he says i'm not an anti-semite, i'm anti-termite, that's anti-semitic. but oliver darcy when you asked this month why hasn't this been taken down? >> they said it wasn't taken down because it wasn't harassment targeted at an individual but people at large. so their current rules they say there's nothing they can do about it. they be a new thing coming out that basically says if you reduce someone's humanity it would be a violation of twitter's rules, and that tweet would potentially violate that. but right now twitter saying that doesn't violate our rules. i think one more important thing to bring up, too, we talk about gab and gab is cesspool for hate, but we saw with the suspect that was arrested he was making all sorts of threats and violent comments on twitter,
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people report said those comments and twitter really do enough, didn't do anything. >> and he also shared these memes that might seem silly to people, anti-democrat posts, anti-media posts. they can seem reduckilous and nonsensical, but some people are influenced by them. jewel you, last quick thought on this? >> again, when the ground is fertile all this stuff blossoms. and the president that you showed at your previous rallies the chanting, that's terrifying. man, that takes me back and yesterday it took me back. that was an ocean fashioned pegrum, and they didn't happen without the person at the top condoning it tacitly or explicitly. coming up a turn to the
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megyn kelly's show on nbc is over, 13 months after it began. now her lawyers are deep in negotiations with nbc about how exactly she's going to exit the network, which really means how much she's going to be paid on the way out the door. this has been an embarrassment for nbc, a disappointment for kelly. there's loo l there's lot to talk about what went wrong. margaret, the black face comment where kelly was talking about what's wrong with black face,
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that was the final nail in the coffin. what else went wrong with her? >> you know, i don't think that particular thing, we think it was about a 20% factor. really there was a lot else going on there. the ratings weren't so good. she never really seemed to be the right fit for that job. she didn't have the warmth and the empathy and the personality to do that kind of morning show. so it wasn't really working. then something like this comes along and tips it over. >> what does it say about the management at nbc news, which made a $69 million bet bringing her over from fox. >> it seems like they were blinded by celebrity and grammar. they were not the only ones pursuing her. but the idea of installing her in this kind of job was so wrong headed. she's an abrasive kind of
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personality who tried to fit in that, and it was a mistake for her too to think she could do it. i think she was doomed to fail. i don't think that format would never work for her. at the same time, by the way, they pass on ronan farrow. >> kelly was covering me too aggressively, including nbc's own problems. and she contradicted management about where ronan farrow left nbc with all of his harvey weinstein reporting. is there an argument that she's been pushed out because she didn't toe the line? >> it elevated her even further, but she wasn't even liked by much to have staff. but what was nbc's thinking when they decided ronan farrow's not appropriate for us but this woman is? as a news decision that looks pretty gad at thbad at this poi.
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>> what about the idea she could go back to fox? >> fox has said we're very happy with our lineup and that seemed to be a clear no. i mean, we were talking about what is her next chapter? i don't think she's done, but it's hard to see quite how she resuscitates herself at this point. she may have to swing back right before she can come back on the esche in a meaningful way. >> so there could be an annou e announcement about her leaving the network all together. now nbc has to figure out what to put back at 9:00 a.m. thank you for being here. one final interview today, actually about the place that me, bill, and margaret used to work, "the new york times." this week at the citizen by cnn conference, i sat down with a new publisher of "the new york times." "the times" continues to gain digital subscribers, but i asked him if trump's anti-"times" rhetoric is turning off a
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generation of customers as a result. let me show you what he said. and he ends on a hopeful note. >> we're now at a point where, according to recent polling, the majority of members of one political party answers affirmatively when asked the question, is the press the enemy of the people? and that is something i worry about every single day. an independent press is not a liberal ideal or a progressive ideal or a democratic ideal. it's an american ideal. it's one that all of our founders felt really strongly about. it's a baked in assumption in a healthy demock racy. if you're skeptical of government overreach, what could you want more than a bad-ass reporter snooping around for bad actors, you know, doing bad things? i think as a society, it's really important that we find a way to communicate that, you
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know, that independent media is in everyone's interest. journalism in the abstract can be made into a men ace. the practical art of journalism is digging and learning and listening and empathy and it's hard to demonize that. >> a positive note there from a. jmp a.j. salesberger. it's been a difficult week here at cnn, and a difficult week across the country. and it's a time for reflection, especially on a sunday morning. a time for soul searching and a time for all of us to look inward, myself included. i would love your feedback. send me a tweet or message on facebook. i want to end with the words of the head of that jewish refugee organization, the one that was
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attacked and criticized by the suspect in pittsburgh. he said the problem is hate. the problem is there is a growing place in this country for hate speech, and hate speech always leads and turns into hate actions. that's what we're seeing over and over again. that's what we all need to reflect on and address. thanks for tuning in. see you back here next week. acts of hate. a gun mam storms a pittsburgh temple. killing jewish congregants gathered for the sabbath. a horrific attack motivated by bigotry and anti-semitism. the mayor of pittsburgh will be here. plus, terror by mail. an accused bomber charged with terrorizing people whom the president has criticized. president trump blames the media. >> unfair coverage. hostility and negative attacks. >> should he turn down his harsh rhetoric?
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