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challenger. >> if you look at the spectrum, he is very, very far right and i'm much closer to the middle. that still makes me appealing compared to him with most of the voters. >> every time it matters, she's with the party and against the president and the people of the state. that is what this race is about. this race is about the fact that she is at logger heads with the voters. >> the city of pittsburgh today is bracing for the first funerals of victims of saturday's synagogue massacre. the squirrel hill community will bury brothers david and cecil rosenthal and jerry rabinowitz. president trump will travel to pittsburgh with the first lady as well as ivanka and jared kushner. why today? he said it worked best for his schedule. he has campaign rallies every day this week. for some, it comes too soon. some say it could distract from
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the families of the victims. the funerals happening today. that's why the president is not accompanied by any leaders from congress. two sources said the top four leaders as well as republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania received an invitation and all declined. they are not the only ones. either the mayor of pittsburgh and the county executive plan to be with the president while he is there. the rabbi of the tree of life has no plans to meet with the president, yet he may clear that the president is welcome whenever he likes. kaitlan collins is in pittsburgh where the president will be. what are you hearing about what the president is going to do and who he will meet with? >> it's a pretty big question mark for some officials in the white house who have been scrambling to put together a schedule for president trump when he does arrive. that's becoming complicated
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because they have a slew of not only national, but local officials who say either they don't want to meet with the president or it's not going to work out. these funerals are starting to get under way today. that's one reason why the rabbi said he will on't be meeting wi president trump even though he is welcome to visit when he wants to. the mayor said there is logistical officers to guard the funerals as they are starting. there is other concerns. whether or not the visit will create protests in the area and they will have to handle as well whether it will get in the way of families traveling to the area. the white house wants to move forward because president trump is not telling aides, i said i was going and now he wants to stick with the plan and also as you mentioned, the president has a busy schedule starting tomorrow with the campaign rallies, doing up to two a day ahead of the mid-term elections.
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they thought if they had the president come visit on wednesday or thursday or later on in the week, it could look bad and the optics could be poor if the president was here mourning and later on went to one of his rallies. the high charged events. they thought they could be criticized that the president waited too long to visit. two sides the story, but we have an increasing number of people saying today is not the right day for the president to pay his respects. >> kaitlan collins, thank you for that report. today to share their insights. michael cher with the "new york times." jackie kucinich with the daily beast. it's unfortunate that this is the conversation we are having now. should he or shouldn't he go. that is what's happening because he is going despite the reality he is facing on the ground.
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the pittsburgh mayor is a democrat. in these times, we tend to see a lot of bipartisanship or nonpartisanship coming to to pay respects. here's what he said about the president's visit. >> i do believe that it would be best to put the attention on the families this week. if he were to visit, choose a different time to be able to do it. our focus is the city. we will be on the families and the outreach they will need and the support they will need to get through it. once we get past that, i think there is the opportunity for president trump to visit. >> michael, what are you hearing from your sources about the trip today. why he is going and what he will do. >> kaitlan said it well. for any president this would be a complicated moment. the week before an election is the height of political season.
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it's hard to get away from partisanship. trying to fit it in, you have a difficult situation no matter where you did. the grim reality of our country is that presidents have had to become consoler in chiefs more and more. president obama, i travelled with him to so many places where he had to go in the wake of tragedy. not just natural tragedy, but more the man made. the shootings. he went to a lot of rural places and places he didn't win or a lot of places that he was not are inially politically the champion of. yet, he had a way about him that people on both sides of the aisle tended to say you struck the right note. you struck the right tone. president trump's problem putting aside politics, putting aside partisanship is he doesn't do that well. he is awkward about it and doesn't leave people with a
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feeling that they are consoled very well. that more than anything is what is causing the problem. >> it's interesting you say that because i'm sure you are hearing this as well, that is a well-known factor by people close to the president. i spoke to somebody in trump world saying why is he going and the response is he does care, he's not just any good at it. >> i have been with the president when he made these other trips to florida after parkland and las vegas. likely what you will see is a focus on first responders, hospitals, both of those trips. he went there and he often because as michael said, he struggles with the empathy, he focuses on the response and the law enforcement. that's one way he tries to connect. i think it's important to note that some of the feelings that are percolating might come after
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saturday when as these shootings unfolded and came out, the president strongly condemned it, but continued with his schedule, including a political rally where he said he would tone things down, but continued with his standard attack lines. >> this goes back further than saturday. charlottesville looms large because it involves the jewish community. the president had a chance to do the right thing and he chose not to. he talked about both sides. i know he tried to fix that since then, but something i heard again and again. there are wounds that are not healed and the president hasn't done a good job trying to fix that. >> this is the part of the skepticism i think that you hear from the mayor who suggest the president shouldn't come. this community right now is a tinder box and the president is a match. he doesn't lean into unity and hope. it doesn't come naturally to him. president obama did this and president bush was praised after
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9/ 9/11. this is something that a lot of politicians enjoy doing, but president trump does not. hope and unity do not come naturally to him. before an election, he calculated that a strategy of polarization is good for his party. anything he can say in pittsburgh if he were to strike the right notes, it does not comport. that's the complication. >> the point you were all making is generally in times like this, a president is genuinely the president of all people. goes to console. goes to be a leader. goes to give everybody a chance to take a breath and say okay, this is still america and we are still the greatest democracy on earth and so forth. that has been the role of this rabbi. rabbi jeffrey myers who has been extraordinary and has been on cnn a couple of times talking about how a political this is
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and should be. listen. >> hate doesn't know a political party. hate is not red or blue or purple. hate is in all. i turn to them to say tone down the hate. speak words of love. speak words of decency and of respect. when that message comes loud and clear, americans will hear that and we can begin to change the tenor of our country. >> even in the face of that kind of language, that attempt, as a spiritual leader should do of any religion to tone things down and try to make sense of things that are so horrible, he is getting hate e-mails. he is. he said how could you do things and be welcoming of the president? he said hate promulgating hate promulgating more hate is not the solution. >> yes, of course.
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i don't think there is a willingness in our political environment for political leaders to take that path. that's unfortunate. you have seen several democrats in response to trump's pug neighborsness, as you put it. they tried to use his language and it caused things to devolve with both parties. no one really has the moral high ground at this point. there is such a -- they are choosing to slug back rather than step back. that's what this rabbi is saying. >> that's such a great sentiment to sort of -- that we could all take a step back. this incident of the synagogue is not happening in a vacuum. it's happening in a political dialogue and debate and argument and fight that goes across all sorts of issues.
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what does the caravan have to do with it? what does the president's proposal about birth right citizenship or the issues are so intense and so bitter that it seems unrealistic as much as we might hope for it that around this one event, everybody would step back and say we are not going to fight anymore. >> especially as you mentioned earlier, it's the climate we are and where we are on the calendar. there is no way that they should or would or could stop what they are doing with the elections a week away. >> the president sees the hard line divicive rhetoric is working so they don't want to slow it down. they want him to do this rally schedule going into the mid-terms. they want to be out there delivering the messages. there is not a lot of incentive at least from the political to do that. >> he is making a trip with the
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pleas and there was an arrest and he did make a strong statement and they want him to get credit for that, but they want him to continue. >> he is capable of reading a speech where he talks about unity and harmony and condemns the hate vitriol. his presence is raising alarms among people who don't believe he is there. you mentioned charlottesville. i don't believe he disavowed the people when he said there are fine people on both sides. >> the stuff we don't normally see. the one time he tried to console the mother of the soldier who had been killed and that blew up in his face because the sense that his words to her were awkward and not particularly well received. that's something that makes it harder for the president and the white house to schedule one of these trips. that's normally something you do. >> we also don't know to the
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mayor's request if he reached out to any of the families and see what the family's wishes are. that's something we haven't had an answer to. >> before we go to break, i will play what joe biden said about the shooting just moments ago, speaking in wisconsin. >> two of my close friends belong to that synagogue. 11 of them killed and another five wounded. folks, this is not who we are. we need to recognize that words matter. >> that was former vice president, joe biden. i want to highlight as we go to break, the story of jeffrey cohen, a member of the synagogue who was a physician in charge at the hospital where the man who hearded 11 members of his community was taken. here's how doctor cohen described what happened when he went to see the man in his hospital room. >> he said i'm feeling okay.
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i introduced myself as dr. cohen, president of allegheny general and i left. the fbi agent in charge looked at me and said i don't know how you did it. isn't it ironic that someone yelling in the ambulance and the hospital i want to kill all the jews is taken care of by a jewish nurse and a jewish hospital president that comes in to check on him afterwards. >> this is not just the story about health care professionals doing their job, but the story of something much bigger. education is the only way to curb hate. that's what our colleague whose father survived the holocaust said he taught her. that's what dr. cohen was trying to do by saying his jewish name to this anti-y is might. jews are not scary. we are your neighbors and nurses and friends.
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born or naturalized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction there of are citizens of the united states and of the state where in they reside. i'm sure you all have the 14th amendment memorized, but in all seriousness, let's talk about the big picture as we start this segment. this is part of it. it's just beating the drum relentlessly on this immigration issue. obviously because the republicans knew they had a sleepy base and trying to wake them up. they are not giving in, facts be damned. >> it's an old play and it's a play that works. i remember in 2014, talking about how immigrants were going to bring ebola across the border. this is something we heard and you started hearing that strain yesterday. talking about other illnesses they could be bringing.
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this is a scare tactic and it gets republicans to the polls. they know it. yet that's why they are doing it. because it works. he is playing on fears that people have. i was in arizona talking about voters are issues are motivated by security, security, security. they were not just talking about terrorism, but immigration. the president's rhetoric struck a cord and made a lot of these people more fearful of people crossing the border. >> it's no wonder they are fearful. because of the words people are using. invasion. it's not just the president, but his back up singers at another news network who use that same word. >> when you look at that bridge loaded up with people, that's called an invasion of our
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country. this has nothing to do with elections. >> calling it a caravan is a misnomer and sickening. >> yo ept to see anybody hurt, but i don't want our country invaded by 14,000 people. >> it was interesting that one fox news host yesterday said it's not an invasion. >> let's play that and i want to talk about this more broadly. this is our colleague who talked about the fact that this is this truth portal that happened and this is the truth portal. watch. >> the migrants, according to fox news reporting are more than two months away if any of them actually come here. but tomorrow is one week before the mid-term election. which is what all of this is about. there is no invasion. no one is coming to get ou.
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there is nothing at all to worry about. >> i mean, he's got you know what. >> can i take one issue with that? i agree that this is all about the election and the timing and the language of this is designed to do what we talked about, which is to drive up the base. let's not forget that it is also part of a determined and concerted effort to fundamentally change the way this country treats people who are coming in and who treat immigrants. this president ran on this issue when he came into the white house. he assembled around him and continued to assemble around him for the last two years, a group of people who fundamentally see the issue of immigration and refugees and asylum and all the other pieces in it in a fundamental way in a bipartisan consensus. they are trying to change that. they are trying to change it
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piece by piece and doing it in little ways and big extravagant ways that have been blocked by the court. while i think it's important that we talk about this in an election context and point out the ways in which they are trying to motivate their bases, this is not a kind of effort that is for no reason. they are doing it to change the policies and could have long lasting impact. >> i think also we know that the president views this as the driving issue that brought him to the white house and the thing that motivates his people above all else. privately he referred to the caravan as a gift, political. he is trying to find ways to drive people to the polls next week. he talks about this being the election of kavanaugh and the caravan and law and order. people cheer. it really gets these people going. >> it is having an impact. you were in arizona earlier in the week. i was recently in missouri and
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one of the most fascinating moments that i think was telling to me about how much this talk about the caravan and everything else is penetrating was when clair mccaskill, the incumbent democrat, without being asked, in a very red state, she talked about how she stands with the president on immigration. watch this. >> the idea of this caravan being used to divide us, i certainly support what the president needs to do to secure the border. absolutely. he should use every tool at his disposal. notion that anyone in missouri should thank i don't agree with the president that we cannot allow our borders to be overrun, they haven't looked at my record. >> that's potent. >> democrats have taken notice and feel the need to respond. they have an ad out with border
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security. it's important to say there is a big conflation between illegal immigration and gangs coming. these people who appear to be fleeing violence and those same gangs in central america and appear to want to apply legally for asylum. that is legal. part of the law. president trump wants to eliminate that right to be heard in court if you claim fear of persecution. that is the law right now. it's not illegal to do that. 5200 troops, there are fewer than that at this point. how many do they need to stop the mothers and children? >> it's interesting to know what clair mccaskill would say about creating tent cities which is what donald trump proposed. he should use every tool. >> she doesn't support the border law. >> where the president is going on the mid-terms, he was in missouri twice. >> bingo. up next, the president's mid-term campaign tour, but first, look at a flash back to a
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just one week until election day and president trump is hitting the road. he has 11 rallies in the next six days, stops in florida, missouri, west virginia, indiana, montana, georgia, tennessee, and ohio. i think i did that without a breath. there is a strategy with a huge focus on keeping the senate in republican hands. many of those stops are home to trump state democrats. places where trump won, but democrats represent there. they are vulnerable for that reason. in addition his base driving tactics on immigration, the president is closing his message on the economy. he tweeted, the stock market is up massively since the election, but is now taking a little pause. people want to see what happens with the mid-terms if you want
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the stocks to go down. i strongly suggest voting democrat. they like the venezuelaa mottle and open borders. >> that's a way to spin the stock market going down. >> it's dangerous to do a negative like that. i'm definitely overthinking this, but let's talk about the big picture. he has been deployed to these red states because if you talk to the candidates in these red states on the gop side, even the democratic side, it seems to be working. >> it's a strategy. >> they're want him there. he has been to montana how many times and missouri twice on this tour. he is going to the states where they see these vulnerable democratic senators and they think it's working. they think they will pick off a couple of them. it's good to think about where he is and is not going. he is not spending the time on
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individual house races at all. the white house is sensitive to the suggestion that he is in any way giving up on that. they are certainly putting distance that gains in the senate, he should get credit for. >> let's be frank. the house members who need a boost the most would get the opposite with the presidential visit. the dynamic is polar opposite when you talk about the most important house races versus the most important senate races. you are talking about it so many times and he is reporting again. >> rural areas are good. suburban swing districts where you try to reach independent women, not so good. >> it's a heavy focus on the senate. the rural red states that voted for him by big margins and he might be able to push them over the top. there are a couple of states with a close governor's race
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there as well. rick scott is not running as much of a trumpy platform as ron desantis. he is ignoring the platform. he's a liability in the swing districts. it seems like he got that message. as far as the schedule goes, if you are the president's adviser and the republicans in the house and senate deciding where he should go. >> you mentioned florida. let's drill down on florida. look at what the president said last night about the governor's race and the democratic candidate there. >> here's a guy that in my opinion is a stone cold thief and his city, tallahassee, is known as the most corrupt in florida and one of the most corrupt in the nation. he's a disaster. how he is even close to being tied is hard to believe. florida can't have -- if florida has a governor like that, and i know florida better than i know
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practically anywhere, florida will be venezuela. it will be a disaster. >> he never explained what he meant about saying that andrew gillum is a stone cold thief. there were accusations on line and elsewhere, but as he usually is, he is very quick to respond to the president. here's what he said. i heard donald trump ran home from fox news to lie about me. my grandmother said never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty, but the pigs like it. ignore him and vote, florida. >> the debate where he said i'm not saying you are a racist, but a lot of racists think you are a racist. that moves the debate back to florida and back to his own candidacy. but the other thing in this race
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we should mention is desantis, the republican won because of president trump. he tied himself to president trump. closer than most candidates across the country. that's someone while rick scott is trying to step away, desantis can't. he's there for the ride. >> it's going burning back while taking the high road. you can't just let trump's remarks go unanswered. they seep into the political ground water. it affects the way people think about things and he's effective at branding people for the negative. he doesn't want this entire race about trump. >> in a diverse and big state like florida, a comment like trump made is reflecting that this is about turning out the desantis base. there is no attempt to reach out a little bit more broadly and help his gubernatorial candidate eat into the moderates and or
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independents. it's all about being the red meat help for desantis that he hopes will deliver. it's a very close race. >> it may not be enough. in the debate, he distances himself from the cutesy ad where he is reading the art of the deal. he said i don't actually read that to my son. >> these are rallies for mid-term candidates and he brings them up on stage. they are trump rallies. there trump signs and people wearing trump 2020 shirts. >> florida tends to be important in presidential elections. don't tell anyone. >> up next, proof that today's political news cycle is really stressful.
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topping our political radar, president trump said when it comes to the special counsel's investigation into possible ties of russia and his campaign, he will probably answer some questions from robert mueller. here's what he told fox news. >> it's ridiculous that i have to do anything because we didn't do anything. but we will probably do something, yes. we will respond to some questions. >> meanwhile his attorney, rudy giuliani, confirmed to bloomberg who was reported several weeks ago. that the president's legal team is preparing answers to questions from robert mueller. and gunfire shattered the storefront window of a republican party office in
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florida. four rounds were fired into the office late sunday or monday when no one was there. there is no surveillance video and no shell casings were covered. they said violence is never the answer under any circumstances. are you stressed out by politics? you are not alone. according to a poll by the american psychological association, 62% of americans say the current political climate is a significant stressor in their lives and more than two thirds said they are stressed out over the nation's future. there is a silver lining. they said because of their concern, they are more likely to support causes they believe in. why the kavanaugh factor is the mid-term boat issue really critical and perhaps determining factor in the missouri senate race. ♪
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democrats hoping for a senate take over know the map is stacked against them. they need to make gains and hold every seat up for grabs in states trump won like in missouri where i traveled last week. a dead heat between the democrat, clair caskill and her challenger josh holly. both say the kavanaugh confirmation fight energized their voters, but in missouri, that energy likely means more for the republicans. she said her vote was not about accusations against kavanaugh, but her support for unlimited the campaign cash. >> i have to live with myself and i would be a big hypocrite if i voted for kavanaugh because of dark money. i made my decision before the
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allegations surfaced. way before the ugly confirmation process. >> holly told me that explanation won't be enough to satisfy missourians. >> that was a big deal. very big deal. >> that could make the difference? >> very big. voters were so appalled by the smear campaign. >> she did say how she would vote before the hearing. >> she was honest in saying she was voting against him because he was a conservative. >> it is so many dynamics in this race. other north dakota areas where you have a red state and a democrat who technically at least in today's day and age doesn't fit the state where trump won by in many cases, 30 points and in missouri it's 20
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points and the democrat is trying desperately to run as an individual. as an independent and somebody who stands up to the democrats and stands with the republicans when it works. >> the political context of her talking about dark money is that's a lopsided issue. you have large majority of conservatives and liberals and independents who think there is too much money in politics. that's a safe issue and the acquisitions were extremely divicive. there is a progressive base in missouri. african-americans and college towns and lots of young people. there is no path for her without mobilizing them. >> comparing the dark money and too much money in politics with the kavanaugh fight is the difference in passion. whatever the polling might say, we have seen in politics for a long time now that questions about campaign finance don't
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drive people to the polls. in places like this, they really kind of energized folks. >> even in places where neither voted. in tennessee with the two of them, both of them said they would support kavanaugh and bla blackburn. that's what he looked into. both felt the same way. >> the playbook in missouri is not unlike indiana. the other areas where the republican, in this case josh hawly is painting the democrat he has on his bus a picture of mccaskill with nancy pelosi and
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chuck schumer. >> the tax cuts, justice gorsuch and justice kavanaugh. securing the border. the cia knowledge. the terrorists. you go through it and every time it matters, she's with the party and against the president. >> that's what gets lost in all of the noise about kanye in the oval office and stormy daniels and all of the drama that is currently washington. people at home don't hear about the bill that i passed to lower the cost of a hearing aid. they don't know about the billie passed to make prescription drugs more affordable. they don't know those things even occurred. that's my job is to show them that i am somebody who brings people in from the edges. >> this is the play, right? i'm independent, i'm not part of that machine. appealing to the yet that people are fed up with politics as
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usual has been successful for lots of politicians, cincluding donald trump. this is a test for whether you can be a centrist democrat. >> heidi heitkamp said be careful. if you vote out moderates, you are going to have even more gridlock and partisanship, which is hart to imagine in washington. that's a message point we are not sure really flies in a situation and atmosphere where people are showing their partisan colors. thank you so much to all of you. thank you for watching. a quick programming note, more of my reporting on missouri will be on erin burnett out front. john king is back tomorrow and wolf starts after a break.
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