their website is on your screen and find it with other organizations on cnn.com/impact. it's been an honor for us to be here, a sad privilege and a painful one, but we feel honored to have been able to bear witness over the last two days here. i want to go back to chris. "cuomo primetime" starts right now. >> thank you, anderson, and to your team for the coverage. >> fear and loathing. that's the theme for the midterms. the tax cut, trade. focus on the monsters making their way here and others like them. damn that media that discloses our lies about the same and double down on the harshness against both. and then they tell us the president is trying every way he can to unify the country. come on. send the military to the border now and make the situation seem urgent when it will be at least a month before the strongest of the migrants could make the trek to our border.

and the newest creative truth, birthright citizenship gone. president trump can change it by executive order. mr. president, do you really think you can defy the constitution by fiat or another promise? is the gop okay with this strategy. many leaders sit mum but not all. we have a member of congress tonight who says it must stop here. and just days after the worst massacre of jews in american history, a candidate for state office targets his jewish opponent with an argument that some say is anti-semitic. is it? let's get after it. there were some protests that greeted the president today when he landed in pittsburgh even as he did the right things there. he laid stones and white flowers for the 11 people who have been massacred. he went to see victims

in the hospital. the protests were because of everything that he had said before today. those words are being being felt especially in pittsburgh, especially after that massacre. the demonstrators included some of the victims from this past week's mass shooting united against what they say is the president's hateful rhetoric and stoking of fear. the thing is, the president's not hiding his intentions. he wants his base to be motivated to vote, and he sees scaring you about migrants and fighting with the media, that's the way to do it. invaders, meet them with the military. trump can change what's in the constitution all by himself, that's how smart he is. and the media who questions him, they are the real enemy of the people. and that phrase is from stalin and hitler. they both used it. why bring that term or the term nationalist back if you don't want to get hit for their history? is all the gop on board with this? let's bring in republican

congressman adam kinzinger of illinois. joining us right now. it's good to have you. not an easy conversation. i respect that you want to have it. >> you bet. thanks. thanks for having me. >> fear and loathing. that's what i call it because that's what it is. you defended this country. you were a hero in the service of the military. and now you are being told as one of the members of the party there is a bunch of barbarians headed towards our gates, they're murderers, they're drug dealers, they're coming to break through and do harm to as many as they can. that's what the president wants you to believe. do you believe that about the caravan? >> no. i don't like the caravan. i want the caravan to not come here and take advantage of our asylum laws, and i want the border to be secure, but one of my big concerns in all of this, you know, look, you mentioned my military service. and i got into politics not because i wanted to win. i got into politics to maybe a

difference i could make. winning i think helps me make a difference but where my big concern right now is where the country is. on one side, our side blames only the democrats, the democrats blame only the republicans. and i think, look, maybe only god knows who is really more at fault in all of this. everybody, including the president, including members of congress, including people just when you're on facebook and twitter, we need to take deep breaths, and we need to realize that we're not going to be this country that sings kumbaya and is united on everything, but we can be a country that respects each other again, that takes moments like a shooting in a synagogue and ponders that. what does that mean for us? what does that mean for our country? why is this happening? and, look, there's plenty of blame to go around everywhere. >> but you know why, congressman. there's no question that the partisanship is toxic. that's the easy part of the analysis. the left isn't in power. they have their own problems. they're struggling to figure out how to match the energy of president trump when it comes to

rallying the base. this negativity works with his base. may not be the same people who voted for you but the people who voted for him and your party now giving him well over 80% approval, it works with them. the problem is it's based on at best bad information and in the main lies. we know from his own intelligence he knows that migrant caravan isn't showing up here any day. the strongest of those people, people as fit and strong as you wouldn't be here for another month. he knows that the population of it can't be broken down as being in the main, murders and drug dealers. he knows that's not true. but that's what he's selling. isn't it incumbent upon you guys in the party who know it's not true to stay stop it? we don't have to like the caravan. we don't have like big groups coming here. stop staying they're monsters. they're more mothers than monsters. you don't say it. why don't any of you say that? >> i think we're doing it. >> really?

>> i think i'm on here doing it. again, this is the problem is you can't just -- yes, i've said it. the president needs to tone down his rhetoric, but it is -- the caravan is an issue we're concerned about. they may not be here tomorrow, but this caravan if they continue to get nice bus rides and walk and everything, they're going to make it here and then there's going to be a decision that has to be made at the border, which is do you process these requests as asylum requests with a court date in the future or don't you? it's going to be something we have to address. now, you can disagree with the language being used in this and i disagree with a lot of the language used in this, but it's a reality. and i think, look, if we're -- >> what's the reality, congressman? just to be clear, what's the reality? >> the reality is they're on the way. they're on the way. there's a second caravan coming. this is a process, and it's not even just the caravan. it's the fact that people now, there's lawyers that go down to advise these people on how to make an asylum claim into the united states even if they don't have a credible fear of harm. the reality isn't asylum laws. they should be declaring asylum

in mexico and staying put there. >> a big bunch of them just took asylum there. >> maybe. >> but a big bunch of them just took asylum in mexico, but i have to tell you, if you're going to make a go of it, why would you stop in mexico? life there is very hard. >> because that's not what the law is. because the law says asylum isn't about going to the place you've always wanted to live or going to the nicest place with the best skyscrapers, it's about going where is safe. there is crime in mexico, but mexico is not considered -- it's a healthy place to consider asylum right now. but the broader issue is this, we're on your show talking about how to fix the tone here, but what ends up happening and every time i get in this discussion, fingers are pointed only on one side. i will say the president significantly needs to tone down his rhetoric. i want him to be a comforter in chief after things like pipe bombs are sent or after a shooting in the synagogue. i want him to be the kfrtder in chief. at the same token, if all we do

is say it's only the president that's republican or the republicans say it's only these people that are responsible, the temperature escalates. no one is going to say you got angry enough and i gave up and you're correct. it just raises the temperature in the country. plenty of responsibility to go around. i just want it to ston. i want to have healthy political debates. we can go negative in politics. we always have from the beginning of time, but it doesn't have to be personal. >> 100%. disagree with these -- it's one of the mottos of the show. i'm totally with you. it's why i have on. it's why i have everybody on. you may like the testing, you may not like it. you're never going to leave my show saying, wow, that was a cheap shop. i would never do that. however, it's not the way the president thinks. and while there is a lot of blame to go around, you cannot ignore that the tone starts at the top. we've never dealt with anything like this. there's a reason that there's 90% negative coverage about the president, it's what he says.

look at the anti-semitic in this country. it's everybody's party. you got two candidates there. most notably a guy he hand picked and said this is the guy you should make the senator. u.s. senator. the guy has cottoned to these confederacy loving people and these ugly people and president trump knew that when he said this is my guy and now he's putting out an ad describing these migrants in the ugliest terms. that's the tone. there's another guy right after the massacre running as a republican putting out a mailer describing or depicting his opponent as a jewish guy holding a handful of money. the guy is jewish he's running against, right after the massacre. what is that about, congressman? >> i don't know. i can't -- i mean, again, i think you want me to come on and they're legit questions and speak on behalf of the president and speak on behalf of everything that's said. i can't do that. all i can tell you is i came in to politics to make a difference.

where i think i can make a difference now is pointing out out that all of it, we just have to move on and that includes the president. i'll say, i love the president's policies. i like the policies of the administration, but the tone, we need him to be a comforter in chief in certain things -- >> but somebody's telling him different, congressman. i don't want you to speak for trump. if i thought you were speaking for trump, i wouldn't have had you on tonight. i'm trying to make an effort after what happened over the weekend -- >> i'm trying to make an effort, too. >> you're doing great, congressman. but somebody is giving him a different message than you're giving him. somebody is telling him, you will win, keep fighting with the media, the base loves it, keep dividing, keep scaring them about the migrants. you will win. the division is right. the culture war is real. you actually had a lower third on fox news, which let's be fair, they're not exactly attacking your party or this president on any kind of regular basis that says democrats are talking about health care and the economy, republicans renew

culture wars ahead of midterms. that was the lower third on fox of all places. that's how obvious it is? how is that good for your party? >> i don't know, i mean, again, i don't know if it's good for the party. i don't know what it's going to do on tuesday. i don't think anyone can prognosticate what ends up happening on tuesday. i think it's legitimate to be concerned about it. i think immigration is one. it's legitimate to be concerned about it. you may not like the rhetoric behind it. i've said i don't like some of the rhetoric behind it. but bringing up immigration in the midterms is an issue -- >> if someone said to you and said, i think you should call yourself a nationalist and use enemy of the people, it seems to work well for the president. i know stalin and hitler used it, but it worked well. and nationalist worked well also. say you're redefining it. would you do anything of those things? >> no, i wouldn't. i believe in america, i believe in america first, but i'm not nationalist. i believe we have a role in the world and that role is to be an example to billions of people

that are desperate for a taste of what we have that we take for granted. i don't think the media's an enemy of the people. do i think the media has bias? absolutely. but we can still win even with a biased media. to call them an enemy of the people when we're fighting in places like against isis and things like that and we have to deal with the russians and the chinese, i don't like that tone either. but at the same time, like i said, i'm not here to defend the president of the united states and i know you're not asking me to do that. what i'm here to say is we all -- and maybe after tuesday, maybe after the next presidential election, but we all have got to think about what's happening here. everybody's to blame. i'm to blame, the president's to blame. democratic leaders are to blame, and every time you post something divisive on facebook, even if you're not in politics we all have a share of it. we all need to settle down and say, look, have massive disagreements. the thing i admired so much

about john mccain, he was a pretty serious partisan. he also never lost respect for you. he may not talk to you for three days after an argument but you ended up being his best friend afterwards. >> sometimes silence is a comfort. we've certainly learned that these days. i want to ask you before we let you go, have you reached out to the leadership, scalise, ryan and say what are you guys doing, i can't get anything done here. >> yeah, we've all talked about it, absolutely. >> why do you think they're so quiet? >> i don't know if they are. i don't know. we're in the middle of an election. the other thing is this, you can't every time the president says something, i can't make a tweet on it, i'm not going to come on tv and talk about it every single time. the president is who he is. he's very different than we've ever seen before. all can i do, all paul ryan and steve scalise, we just have to live by whatever we want this country to look like and our politics to look like. i may fall short, i may continue

to fall short in the future, but my hope is to say when i get out of this, i made a positive impact, no matter how big or little that is. >> if you speak out about what you know is wrong, that's going to be the best barometer about whether the people put you in office. congressman, thank you for coming on. you're always welcome. >> you bet. see you. >> look, here's a matter of fact, there is no invasion crisis at the border. there is none coming soon. there is a credibility crisis though and it's all around us, but we're not going to let it float around as fact, not here, not on this watch. so we have the truth about the caravan. the fact about trump's ability to militarize the border and his claim that his lawyers say he can change the constitution all by himself. facts first next. i am proud of you, my man. making simple, smart cash back choices... with quicksilver from capital one.

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to be invaded. they're almost at the door. the terrorists used to be part of the cell but it was proven to be too foolish of an idea and he's taken that out. the problem is it's all untrue. these migrants are about a month away if you're really healthy and walking fast all the time. that's the earliest they would be at the border. so you're going to have attrition. even if they ran a marathon every day, they wouldn't be here by december. but that's not what the president is really worried about, all right. this is -- people voting. and that's a whole lot closer, right? that's a week away today. the initial monsters in our midst attack had big holes blown in it by us in the media because trump was grossly exaggerating what he knew, and here's the proof. when i say he knows they're not coming, i say that because he knows they're not coming. his own intelligence clearly tells him they expect a small percentage of the people in the

caravan will ever make it to this country. so the monster madness needed some fluffing up, and that's where another offer you can't refuse came from. >> some legal scholars believe you can get rid of the citizenship without changing the constitution. >> with an executive order. >> exactly. >> right. >> have you thought mr. that? >> yes. >> tell me more. >> it was always told me me you need a constitutional amendment. guess what? you don't. >> this is the latest of trump's barrage of bs and last-minute midterm promises. tax cut for the middle class, congress isn't even in session. then you have all the tries to get rid of pre-existing conditions. we all remember then. then no, no, no, we're going to keep that and keep the protections for you. then he believes the big sell is those posing as monsters and wants to get rid of them. and then he's going to lie and now the idea of changing a signature right in the constitution all by himself. but can he do it?

it raises two central questions. should he do it? let's deal with the can, all right? here was the vice president trying to sell this. >> we all cherish the language of the 14th amendment, but the supreme court of the united states has never ruled on whether or not the language of the 14th amendment subject to the jurisdiction thereof applies specifically to people who are in the country illegally. >> now, that's an end run, all right? he's not being intellectually honest. they've never tested it because when they did first test this initially and if you google the 14th amendment, click on any description about this citizenship clause. you'll see. they put it in an amendment because they wanted to keep it safe from congress and keep it safe by scotus. the one time it was reviewed by scotus, they had one simple line, "all persons born and naturalized." then the court case said if you're born here, that's it, that's the end of the analysis.

so he's being intellectually dishonest. even the d.o.j.'s actual arguments back up the fact that trump can't do this. maybe that's why on the eve of halloween the ghost of paul ryan finally came out of hiding and said this -- >> well, you obviously cannot do that. you cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order. >> all right, so on the can, if trumps tries this, you can expect a big court fight where he will argue that liberal judges are out to get him and they'll argue anchor baby tourism, advertised as a place to have a baby so you can automatically get citizenship for that baby. now, trump should know something about this. the "daily beast" reports that his properties in florida are often advertised to russian parents to come and have babies. so sending in the army, this is a little bit of an easier situation, why? there is this law known cast

possi comitatus. back in the cowboy days, let's round up the posse. that's what this was about, the ability to enlist and conscript citizens. it says you can't use the u.s. military to enforce laws against u.s. citizens but there are loopholes. and if it is what the doj says it is, it should be okay legally. but what happens if there's violence? that's where the should comes in. and even they -- even then, rather, trump may believe if people are angry about the migrants, he still wins no matter what happens. does that sound far-fetched? remember when they were torn from the families, he wanted it. said it was right. then there was outrage. he pretended to fix it and it was all a lie. he eventually said he liked the message of taking kids from their parents and the harshness and what that said to others to keep them away. that's why the dhs has separation high on their priority list. he likes the harshness. he thinks it will bring wins

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the president says his lawyers told him that he can end birthright citizenship, first protection afforded by the 14th amendment, and he can do it all by himself. i hear everyone saying this is just a farce to impress the base a week out. but you know what? when a president says something like this, it must be tested. can he do this? should he do this? cuomo's court is in session. we've got norm eisen and mark smith. gentlemen, thank you for being here. mark, if we look at this -- if thanks for having me on, chris. >> 100%. if we look at this on n nontraditional litigation, you would go first. give me a quick take on why you think a president can do this. we'll deal with should later. >> sure. bear in mind that no one is

suggesting that president trump can amend the 14th amendment by himself, but the president of the united states has a seat at the constitutional table. the president, members of congress, the supreme court all swear an oath to uphold the u.s. constitution, and i think what the president is doing here is essentially saying we are going to start the legal process with this executive order he says he's going to sign and that legal process we know is going to go to the courts and eventually, chris, it will go to the u.s. supreme court and while the president by himself cannot change the meaning of the constitution, certainly we know the supreme court can change the meaning of the constitution as to how it's applied because the supreme court, frankly, does it all the time. even i think what's really going on is the president is doing two things. one, politically he's reminding people on his views on immigration. he thinks it will help him at the midterm. and then there's the legal strategy part to say, look, this is going to take years, let's start the ball rolling now. why wait?

>> we know it's not going to take years. if he tries by executive order to change the protection in the 14th amendment, he's going to have a short legal battle, unless what you're suggesting is that he's starting the process of changing the constitution. that's not what he says, though. but, norm, even on the basis of that, this is the beginning of a long legal process and i'm going to start it by executive order. would that pass muster? >> chris, thanks for having me back on "cuomo's court." as somebody who has advised a president on executive orders, i can tell you this is a complete stunt. the 14th amendment is clear. this is one thing and one thing alone and i give mark credit for acknowledging it, it's a political ploy, and it's desecration, chris. this is when we're still mou mourning these people who are dead in part because of what? in part because of president trump demagoguing the caravan. shameful. it is an insult to the office of the president of the united

states and a ridiculous legal argument that doesn't bear water. >> do you think the acting counsel -- >> chris, i think that historically -- >> hold on a second. the white house counsel is gone. hold on a second. i want to give context to this. the president said his lawyers told him he can do this. i really think they should produce the lawyer. not that i don't love having you on the show and you're welcome back. i want to hear that somebody told him by executive order you can stop birthright citizenship. because you know nobody who is worried about their license would ever give that advice. so how does this work out for the president legally? >> chris, let's take two ideas that at one point were viewed as crazy in a sense and then became the law of land. first of all, if you suggested 200 years ago we would have a constitutional right to gay marriage recognized by the supreme court, i think people would say that's not possible.

and now we have it. likewise, 100-plus years ago, we had separate but equal or the jim crow laws that said african-americans and whites can be separated in public accommodations. and then, of course, many, many decades it took before we have brown versus board of education. so there's a lot of precedent historically of time starting the ball rolling and what would be on a don quixote effort to change the law and that ultimately gives rise to a successful supreme court outcome that changes not the constitution but the interpretation of the constitution. >> well, but the problem is though there -- >> what donald trump is doing is kicking off the football at the start of a football game. >> that's not what he said. he said he could kick the football, run down the other end, catch it and run it back for a touchdown. that's what he said. and, unfortunately, somebody like you have to own that, although you wouldn't have stated the proposition that way. however, there's a fundamental difference, norm, between those other examples and the one we

have here. those were about evolving and having more inclusion put into the constitution. this is about congress already deciding to expand and make more inclusive the protections of the 14th amendment as a reaction to dret sco-- dred scott and other exigencies and this would be undoing the inclusion, it would be shrinking the situation. do we have constitutional precedent for that? >> no, chris. >> less rights. >> your honor, it's contrary to the whole trend of the constitution. chris, why are we talking about gay marriage and dred scott and separate but equal instead of the 14th amendment? because president trump doesn't have a leg to stand on. and it is so reprehensible for our president, our chief law enforcement officer charged by the constitution to take care that it be enforced to use that as a red flag to feed the base, to whip up hate in a week when

his hatred has already caused so much pain, suffering, risk, pipe bombs and 11 deaths, chris. you're so right to put it in that context when you introduce the this segment. that's what we need to be talking about. this is one of the most profound betrayals of a constitutional duty that we've ever seen, and that's why, mark, to his credit, who is attempting to defend this has to pivot off of the plain language, the congressional intent and the longstanding case law of the 14th amendment and talk about gay marriage and separate but equal. come on! >> the 14th amendment is hardly clear. remember, the 14th amendment was one of the three constitutional amendments that were ratified immediately following the civil war in the 19th century. i think we can all agree that at the time of the years after the civil war, which ended slavery, i don't think, you know, concerns about illegal immigration from latin america

and what happens to their children was really being discussed. >> although they tested it -- they tested it -- hold on. we have to go and let's do it this way. first of all, mark, you had a tough go tonight because the president put you in a box. the idea of whether or not he should do it is a much more fertile, legal and political discussion really. we'll have that one with you as well. but it was tested in an immigrant context. that was the case about chinese immigration and the supreme court ruled very clearly in a single line, if you're born here, it triggers the protections of the 14th amendment. but whether he should do it, whether she should want to do it and go through a change of constitution, separate conversation and you're welcome back to have that one. mark smith, thank you for being here. norm eisen, best hair in the business, as always, thank you very much. >> does the trump base feed on fear and loathing? i'm kind of stating it as a given. does it, and if not, is there a chance that this could backfire a week from couldn't?

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protesters, prayer, politics were all on display in pittsburgh. the president went to extend his condolences to the loved ones of those lost in the synagogue massacre. it was a brief departure from an all-in campaign of fear and loathing, focusing on migrants as marauders.

the question is, will it work? let's address it with our great debaters van jones and david. it works because -- go ahead, david. >> of course it works. it works because we have to acknowledge there's a problem on our southern border. you're going to either acknowledge we are a country that plays by the rules and has a system of legal immigration and is secure border or we're not. so, look, i don't think that there's a band of marauders coming on the southern border, but i do believe we need to have secure borders. and this president like other presidents -- i think you have to point out president trump isn't the first president to send u.s. troops to the border to secure the borders, president bush did it, 41, 43, and for the same reasons, to help enforce the border and stop illegal immigration across the border. i don't think this is the end of the world coming here but it really does make a statement are you for open borders or against open borders?

so i don't think this is the end of the world coming here but it really does make a statement are you for open borders or against open borders. are you for legal immigration or are you for open borders? i think that's really an issue here. >> van. >> chris, a couple things here. first of all, you notice all the republicans tonight keep talking about the southern border, the southern border. the majority of people who are here unlawfully did not come through the southern border. they flew in on airplanes and overstayed their visas. if all they were concerned about was literally just people being here unlawfully, the conversation would be different. this isn't about unlawful immigration. it's about who these people are and where they are coming from and that is unfortunate. we are talking about now, by the way, putting 5,000 troops -- we're going to have more troops on our border to stop this little caravan than i think we have in iraq. we've got -- atemit's a massive

overreaction, and it's not chartered to the problem of undocumented people. it's undocumented people of a certain color from a certain part of the world. and that's what i think is very disturbing, and we can't get away from this bigger picture now. in brazil, they just elected somebody who is an enemy of democracy playing on these internal tensions and divisions. turkey, hungary, all around the world liberal democracies -- i don't mean liberal like democratic, i mean liberal like not fascist democracies are starting to turn on their own people, they're starting to move in a negative direction. >> it does feel familiar. that's why i jump on the enemy of the people stuff and the nationalism stuff. i don't know why trump's bringing that stuff back when we know the history of it. >> chris, listen, the president needs to acknowledge the media is not the enemy of the people and -- >> only one is saying it.

>> and the media needs to acknowledge the president is not the enemy of the people. there have been thousands of troops on the southern border before. it's not an historical abnormality. to your point earlier, there are folks coming through because they're fleeing horrific conditions in their own country. we need to as a nation and as a world examine why are those people leaving? why are they fleeing these oppressive regimes? >> we all know the history of what happened in the '80s. what countries were supported and what weren't. >> what are we going to do to fix it? >> trump said he wants to stop their funding to cause the same conditions. >> so when they get to mexico and they're offered asylum, why don't they stay? why do they come to the united states? >> you just had a thousand take asylum. >> why is it a better place to be? >> what do you mean? there's every reason you can think of. >> because there's more economic opportunity -- >> that's right. and people are hiring here. in a way that president trump won't crack down on. that would go a long way to stop the flow also. >> you're a smart guy and a lawyer. what is one of the key elements

for proving asylum? >> you have to show a real fear of what happens upon return. >> when you get to mexico and you escaped the fear of el salvador and guatemala, what happens? >> because this is a better place to be. the law doesn't say you have to go to the next available place. >> no, chris -- go ahead, van. >> van, this is an extension of the argument i want you to comment on. look at what he's saying with the 14th amendment. this is like the perfect trump play, okay? legally he knows he can't do it. he said some lawyers told him he could. i say produce the lawyers. i would love to have them on the show. put them on and show the statement. nobody worried about their license would do it. you're saying that you don't want a type of people here. >> yeah, listen -- >> no, no, no, chris, that's wrong. it's illegal immigration. it's illegal immigration. that's what we're talking about. >> it's in the 14th amendment to the constitution.

van, make your point. >> i'll say a couple things. first of all, the 14th amendment of the constitution is really, really precious because the point of this thing and we haven't talked about it is to say that there was an idea that if you were african-american, you weren't a citizen. >> right. >> the whole point was to say we don't care who you are, we don't care what color you are, what your previous status was, if you were born here, you belong here, we want you. >> right. >> that's the point of it. >> then it was tested with the chinese-american. >> exactly. >> and the case was that he can't be a citizen, his parents are chinese. and the court decided quickly and in one line validated that the 14th amendment holds and trump is now saying it doesn't. >> hold on a second. now you have people saying hold on a second, we got people who came here illegally, they came here unlawfully, they're taking advantage, we don't want those people. what they're not taking responsibility for is that's been going on for 400 years.

the pilgrims didn't have a passport either. we've had people coming here for generations. and what we've always said is we don't care -- if somehow you got here, if our laws didn't keep you out, if you are born here, though, you have rights. to go back and say now -- obviously he can't do it, he's lying. there's no lawyer that told him. that lawyer would be disbarred for malpractice. you want to unwind this because of the southern border, not ball not because they're coming here on airplanes. they're not sending troops to the airport. that's very disturbing because it's about a racial ethnic agenda that is sneaking into the republican party and it's wrong. >> we have to hold it there. >> van, we're going to disagree on that. >> that's okay. we're here to disagree but we do it the right way. that's why i love both of you. van jones, david urban. ahead, more breaking news. kanye news.

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anymore because -- and i don't mean this in a derogatory way. he's dealing with some issues. and it seems to me from these tweets he is probably dealing with them, which is a good thing, which is what most people said, this is the point, at this time in his life without the knowledge of history and perhaps reading a little bit more, that he should not be talking about and addressing the issues that he was addressing because he wasn't helping on the issue, especially when it came to certain amendments, right? now we're talking about the 14th amendment today, but that's another story. so you mentioned candace. he says -- he's talking about the hat. the blexit, black exit from the democratic party or whatever, i introduced candice to the person who made the logo. "i never wanted any association with blexit, i had nothing to do with it," he says. he says i support -- he supports helping people in the community.

all kinds of things. i'm looking at his tweets. he's saying he's going to back away from politics. okay, good. focus on creativity. all i say is good for you. i hope you mean it. i just wonder what the trump folks are going to say now, how they're going to spin this. >> my guess, nothing. and if they do have to say anything, because, look, i think it looked like what it was. i think it looked like he was trotting somebody out, the timing of it wasn't great, the media of all over it, shame on us as far as i'm concerned, and he didn't seem well. and it seemed exploitive. so i think they say nothing. if they have to say something, they'll say the enemy of the people barked kanye out of the game. >> you're a smart man. listen, my eyes are now wide open, and i now realize i've been used to spread messages i don't believe in. that's pretty big. >> yeah. it would be nice if he was saying whose messages. >> whose message. >> and who was doing it.

we'll take progress where we find it. d. lemon. >> we're going to talk at the top of the hour. we're going to talk about the president's visit today to pennsylvania and whether it was appropriate or not on this particular day and the reception or lack thereof he got. >> provocative. thank you, my friend. see you in a second. all right. so we have some republicans on the show here the last couple days. we've been making a different effort. we got to figure out a way to get better from where we are. and they'll admit some things that they have to about trump's lies about the migrants and his playing with the constitution, but we have to call out what this is really all about. there's only a week until the midterms. closing argument next.

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like the 11 jewish people massacred this past weekend. trump was there in pittsburgh today. he did the right thing. he showed respect, but he was shown some disrespect precisely for this kind of talk. and apparently he is okay with all of it. it's so obviously true, this midterm hate campaign, that even state tv had this banner. look at it. i did not make this up. democrats emphasize health care and the economy. gop ramps up culture wars for the midterms. you can't make it up. it's so obvious that even they say it. i call it fear and loathing because it is. now, the full title of the book that i'm borrowing that phrase from is the famous hunter s. thompson, "fear and loathing in las vegas: a savage journey to the heart of the american dream." and that part may apply just as much. we are on a savage journey, and it is a battle for the heart of

the american dream or, more directly, will the dream have any heart anymore? will there be new colossus? will there be lady with the lamp? is the statue of liberty going to be painted gold and called the last line of defense? and will the torch become an ar-15 because it's all about demonizing and keeping people out and force? illegal entrants and legal. more norway, less ways like the ones that his wife, the president's wife and in-laws used. imagine how they feel with that talk. and the most objectionable part may be why he's doing this. the president is doing this not out of some deep, profound conviction. it's because he thinks it sells. it's all about the sell. that's why he hated the bombings, not because of what it said about his rhetoric or the risks to the people they were sent to. he never even reached out to the former presidents who were targeted. his m.o. is spreading.

that's more proof. trump's choice for u.s. senator in virginia is a guy we tested here on this show and exposed him as someone who is way too close to people who are way too bigoted. and he fought it kind of and then put out this ad. >> they allow criminal illegal aliens to assault our daughters, murder our sons, and deal drugs. the democratic party of today is an unhinged angry mob of thugs, and tim kaine tells them to fight in the streets and get in people's faces. and if tim kaine wins and the democrats take control of the senate, it will get worse, much worse. i'm corey stewart, republican for senate. >> if somebody's face says thug, it's got to be tim kaine. obviously i'm kidding, but that's the nature of it. it's so brazen. it's so obvious. and then there's another ad. i almost didn't show you this one because it gets my trump up, and i think we should be turning down the hostility. but you need to know what is being done out there in the name of democracy.

so after the synagogue massacre, after it, this ad from republican ed charamut, who is running for state senate in connecticut shows in mailboxes, depicts his jewish opponent, democratic state rep matthew lesser holding a fist full of money. look at his face. look at the expression on his face. this is what trump is encouraging. this is how he is molding the gop in his image, and that party seems to be sitting by, scared, or joining in. this is a far cry from where that party ever was, and they're basically daring republicans who don't believe in all this jingoism and hateful talk to vote for someone else or not at all. and trump is betting they will not. one week from today, we will see if he made the right bet. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight with don lemon" starts right now. >> and that's why he knew, his

administration knows, his handlers knew that he needed those pictures today down in pittsburgh, because otherwise he'd have to miss a campaign rally or attend both of them on the same day, which was not good optics. but today was a photo-op. not to say the president shouldn't go, shouldn't show up. he's supposed to be the consoler in chief. >> mm-hmm. >> but many people there said, hey, not right now. and if i lost someone, if i'm in grief and you called me, chris, and you say, hey, don, you're my boy. i love you. can i come see you? and i say, hey, chris, not right now. the family is dealing with some issues. give us a minute here, and i'll let you know when you can come over. what would you say? >> i would be kind of hurt that you saw me as something that would be a force for negativity in a time of loss. >> you know what i'm saying. you know what i'm saying. >> here's my thing, i'm slow to blame a president or any elected leader for doing the right thing. those people deserve the respect of the president of the united states. >> no, no, no. the right thing is to go. i'm talking about now. and if you want to go an