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this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. president trump firing his long suffering attorney general. hours after polls closed in the midterms. jeff sessions forced to submit a red nation letter. catching top white house fishes off guard. the president who became famous for the phrase you're fired. punting to his chief of staff to give sessions the boot. john kelly didn't do it face to face. but opted by phone. kelly refused to grant sessions request to stay on until friday. matthew whittaker who started chief of staff. finishes as acting ag. over seeing the mueller investigation. are leaving the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein of the
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responsibility. whit ter the president found an ally. who questioned the scope of the investigation. i asked him last year why trump wouldn't say he would fire mueller. >> it's dangerous politically. legally there are certainly a way for that to happen. >> you don't think it's dangerous legally it's not obstruction? unless you it goes my way i'm going to fire you. >> no. i don't think that's obstruction. we keep using that term. >> whittaker also previously questioned the scope of the special counsel investigation saying examining the trump family finances would be would raise serious concerns that the special counsel investigation was a mere witch hunt. witch hunt. sound familiar? lots to discuss. executive producer of show time the circus on sunday night. also cnn global affairs analyst.
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susan glasser. good evening everyone. >> before we get started. about jeff sessions. matthew whittaker and the president held a press conference for 26 minutes. lashing out at everyone. who challenges him including the media and everyone he disagrees with. here it is. >> you are a rude, terrible person. you shouldn't be working for cnn. you are the enemy of the people. >> on the campaign trail you call yourself a nationalist. now people are saying. >> such a racist question. >> are you offering my way or highway situation to the democrats? you're saying that if they start investigating you, you can play that game and investigate them. >> better than them. >> can you compartmentalize that and continue to work with them for the benefit of the country?
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>> no. all it is is a war like posture. >> 26 minutes. hour and 26 minutes. is he feeling the pressure? >> you know, he came in loaded for for that press conference today. he seemed to seek out the confrontation. and as often as the case to double down on it once it was launched. and i think that in general it's a strategy for the people who thought the election was going to bring an end to what has seemed like an exhausting and very devicive news cycle. we saw today from president trump that's not the case. if anything we may come to look back on the campaign as a quiet period. >> the land the folks were living in. of course this administration. they thrive in chaos. don't you think? my assessment was that maybe he was concerned that he now has
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there's some check. you're saying i'm misreading it. you were at the press conference. >> i was struck by a couple things. one was that i think he came in ready. he seized last night as a win for him. definitely defied expectation. they were much higher for democrats. historically the important thing is they took the house. for him for the moment he defied expectation. and it's the first time in at least decades maybe longer that the end party has actually added senate seats. he had something to talk about. but it was interesting to me that during that discussion, which was his prepared statement. it was quiet and laid back. kind of soft in tone. and then he as soon as he went to the question and answer. he went looking for confrontation. it was so clear. there was a room of 100 reporters and he goes to jim acosta. we knew what was happening with that. >> mostly the people he has --
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confrontation. >> presidents i work for and known before others in the past the traditional way is you have ten reporters that you know you go to. most of thep friends. you know what they'll say. the president first of all he talks to reporters that he knows he'll have a confrontation with. and 100 reporters in there. and a will the of them in there that are kind of whacky. and he doesn't even know. no idea. and picking people he has no idea or what they'll say. so unconventional. >> what did you think of the calling the question racist? where do you start with that. >> again, to me that had the air of a line he reversed in advance. he repeated it. a couple times. and it seemed that he decided that this was a brilliant way. we have seen that before by president trump. when he has been challenged he does this sort of like no i'm
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not. what are you. and i feel like it's a classic trump move. on some level that if he proceeds to accuse himself of racism. he'll accuse you. we're drawn into -- >> your assessment is. personally i know that. he accuses you of whatever it is that you are saying about him. even if that means racism. if you challenge him. especially a reporter of color who challenges him on race. listen to women who challenge him. he talks about women who challenge him. >> for him to embrace want notion of being a nationalist. proactively. which he did. without having historical per spect i have about what that word. had e knows what it means. if he doesn't, that's a different problem. the thing is i think he feels l -- how do i say this. he feels most of the public and
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reporters are as easily swayed by his rhetoric as his supporters. that people, he is frustrated by people who actually do the research. and fo better. people say i didn't just fall off the turnip truck. come on. >> he's surrounded in the environment of the rally and campaign mode. he is very proud. he pointed out in his press conference he had done 30 rallies or something in 60 days. he traveled around the country to the very friendly environments. remember how whent to the in assembly and seemed shocked people were laughing at him. and not alongside him. he's surrounded in atmospheres that are essentially people cheer leading him and the message. he's taken a little bit of his own spin to heart. on some level it struck me he believed he had won a great victory. you can argue as he say, in a
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way there's something to that. in that in his view, because republicans have held onto the senate. and actually added slightly to their majority. thatth odds which were. >> reporter: low they would ever go along with the house impeachment and convict him. have dwindled down very low. which means on some level. it's not there is a check on the president. if he's saying to democrats i don't believe. he's calling their bluff. listen, go ahead and impeach me. i'm going to within the political argument. >> you said earlier. by the way he's reading and believing his own press. which is never a good thing. washington will get worse not better as a result of tuesday's result. the political scripts of the past have been destroyed they are not coming back. we discussed that. let's talk about it. i want to bring in trump biographer. the truth about trump.
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michael. what did you see from the president's reaction? good evening. >> good evening. i think that susan is right. the president was prepared for confrontation. i disagree with mark a bit. i thought he seemed kind of depressed. at first. when he was issuing his prepared remarks. he really came to life when he was battling with the press. he's determined that what worked for him in the past is going to work for him going forward. it is true that we are in a new reality. where what existed prior to election day has become even more intense. so the senate is going to become even more intensely trumpen. the house is in the hands of the democrats. it's not going to be a cake walk for them. because they'll have to work with the senate.
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somehow. over it all is going to be the president doing the thing he's always done. and we'll be talking about his personality. so how strange is that we have now spent three years talking about donald trump's personality. not politics sfl i don't think that's -- you're right about that. i actually thing moving forward that this is going to be more about policy than personality. because the story will shift from white house intrigue. his personality. and to more policy move. the democrats will -- the congressional the story that's coming out of the congress. will have equal if not more importance than the story that comes out of the white house. which will be interesting. >> don't you think that the country sort of expects the democrats to propose things but not get much done?
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and then investigate. and hold hearings and that will be conflict times ten. and when the president says he's very good at this, he was talking about investigation. he's very good at playing these power games. and rallying his base. that base is now permanent. we have a portion of the lek tort that is angry. permanently rejecting of nancy pelosi. and the drath democrats. it will be a slug fest. >> i understand that. what i'm saying is for so long the narrative in the news and everything is just been one sided. because the congress the senate, they have gone along with what the president had to say. it has been his narrative. the republican narrative. the entire time. democrats are in control of congress. part of what they're doing will come into play as well. i don't think -- listen. don't get me wrong. the white house will be a big
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part of this. they won't have the whole pie. is all i'm saying. >> made an interesting argument. he was saying that i have feel better a better with a democratic majority. than a close majority of republicans. it will force us to come to the table and talk about infrastructure and issues that maybe it couldn't have. >> i want to talk about the circus. >> shut up, susan. >> what he thinks of the trump presidency. two years in. >> he's having a terrible go at it. i don't think he's living up to his part of the bargain. and i'm troubled by politicians that only speak to people they believe will vote for them. it's sad because he's got the bully pulpit. the highest office in the land. hopefully we can hold him to
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task or get someone in there that will think about all of us. >> america will have a hang over after trump. do you agree? >> well. america is going to have to try and figure out what to do after trump. republican party certainly figure it out. the republican party has been splintered and radically transformed. >> have you seen the research on the republican party? what happens after this. just -- they keep winning though right. >> john weaver last night said i think on your net work. the republican party has been reduced by 10 to 15 million people. it's it maybe a hard base. it's a shrinking base. i don't know where the numbers came from. it's interesting to see. it's a bunch of republicans out there that don't have a home. and have to find one. >> we'll see you soon. watch the circus this weekend. sunday. show time. >> kick it. >> thanks everyone. i appreciate it. house democrats say they are preparing to open multiple
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new questions about the fate of the mueller investigation tonight after the president fired jeff sessions and put acting ag in charge. this as democrats are about to take control of the house. let's discuss. congressman eric swalwell on the house intelligence committee. good evening to you. are you concerned? >> yeah. i feel like we can do something now. we're not powerless. we won the majority and the american people should be assured we'll protect the democracy. >> you're feeling some strength. because before it was frustration. every time you were frustrated about something. i can't believe this is happening. >> we had the make the case to the public. go to the town hall and tell
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your congressman. senator. yoir concerned. they went to the ballot boxes. and hoping that we stand up and do what's right. we can protect mueller and insist documents are preserved. and insist he step aside on the russia investigation because of the conflict. >> leader pelosi is asking he recuse himself. is that what you want? will that happen? >> yes. he should ask for a opinion and get a public response from the ethics department. they will find he's conflicted. >> when i speak of the frustration that you had during the investigation. remember your investigation you felt it was shut down by republicans. >> obstructed. shut down. looked the other way. free passes. >> you reopen that now? >> we'll fill in the gaps. we want to be productive. look forward. make sure the upcoming election is protected. russians will seek to enteer
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fear again. and get the documents they were unwilling to get. don jr.'s phone records. bank records. financing information about the president and his russian financing. all the stuff we asked for and the republicans refused to get. >> you heard him today. if the democrats start investigating me i'll investigate they will. how did you read that? a threat. empty promise. what. >> senate is a separate branch of government. and suggesting government will come grinding to a halt. they kept building the dome. they passed they purchased alaska. and we acquired more property in the west. america can go on. there's opportunity to collaborate. on infrastructure and dream act. background checks. prescription drugs. we'll put stuff on the desk and see if he'll sign it. >> i had ted lieu on. what about when it comes to the affordable care act? will you work to implement the
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things that were stripped or removed? sfwl. >> yeah. protections for the counties. a thousand counties where there's not much competition. reinsurance or cost sharing. there's bipartisan proposals there. also prescription drugs is an area to reduce the cost. i have a 17 month old. i bought tam flu. she said good thing you have insurance. it's five dollars for you. if you don't it's $500. >> you felt it was inconsistent testimony. and you didn't get enough. from them. it was incomplete. i'm wondering. you said it was incomplete on inconsistent. including hope hicks. corey lewandowski. roger stone and many others. again. that opens up again. >> we'll pore into the commercial break if wint through
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the witnesses. >> what about tax returns. >> that's one of the easier things we can do. chair will be able to request them. we shornt do it just for any voieristic interest. we should do it to see if he's corrupt. saying he's tax cheat. if that relates to governing our domestic policy. he may fight it. it will go to the supreme court. the law says if the chairperson of the committee requests it, he has to turn it over. >> you heard whittaker. there's a legitimate way or easy way for the president he believes. a way to get rid of the investigation. that is starve it to death. of funding. are you concerned. >> yes. we are in a position that's not going to happen. we'll protect mueller. people are going to the streets tomorrow. and 900 different communities
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across america. so on the inside and congress and outside. we'll protect the investigation. >> people are doing what? >> going to the streets. there's a protect mueller effort outside the white house. tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. there will be 900 different communities rallying to protect mueller. >> thank you for your time. >> the president today denying he's ever said anything racist. and falsely accusing an african american reporter of asking racist question herself. ugh. this screen! you know, sprint has the awesome new iphone xr. oooh. let's take a picture! whoa! it's so clear! yeah, it has an amazing liquid retina display... (photographer) look at the colors! ...on a network built for unlimited. this is amazing! and it's only $0 per month, compliments of sprint. i can't hold this smile much longer! i can. (vo) it's here! we'll give you the iphone xr to use for $0 per month with eligible trade-in for people with hearing loss, when you switch to the sprint network.
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president trump is in florida ron desantis won. kemp is claiming victory. i want to get your take. on these what i think are what most people think are racist dog whistles. they worked on gillum. abrams not qualified. >> it's apparent they won. that's the disappointment that we have in the country. that we live in. there were large swath of individuals. a group of individuals. i want to make sure and look at the people and tell them to make sure you come out and stay engaged and had vote. do everything necessary. but we thought the progress in the country was further along than it is. gillum and abrams ran a great race. it was a great rapper. plies. he said today he was excited. because gillum there was no reason to be upset. because he took it from here. to here.
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and for many african americans who run statewide like myself. many people who have dedicated their life to public service like gillum and abrams. they didn't make it over the hump. but chipped away. >> didn't i tell you last night this was progress. i don't know why people are like oh my gosh. everybody won. republicans won last night. democrats won. i think -- >> actually i agree with that. >> if let's think about it. stacey abrams. women of color. whether she wins or not i don't know. voter suppression. you see what happened in florida. and young folks what happened in texas. with beto. a republican or democrat. he's a young energetic person. isn't that progress? it almost flipped red states to blue. >> it's almost progress. so the question is what happens today. baby steps. what i want to do is engage as
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plies is now. it make sure he stays engaged. and the individuals stay engaged. diddy and dj ka led. the individuals. >> let's not get too far ahead of yourself. >> make sure everybody stays. >> stacey abrams is refusing to con seed. previously accused kemp of using voter suppression during the election and the fact that the secretary of state over saw the recount. i'm wondering what that does. is that a problem for people having faith in the voting process? they sort of feel their votes counted and whether he won fair or square. >> i think it is. it's actually a problem. when you have this. i'm sure people on both sides disagree with me saying this. sometimes secretaries of state run for governor or higher office. and we have the rule of law. theoretically you should be able
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to run the election that you are involved in. there's an obvious conflict of interest. so i think it's a problem. you recuse yourself if you're jeff sessions in the russia investigation. what is appropriate to do if you're a secretary of state? should you be over seeing it. i don't know what the answer is. it strikes me as something you need to fix before it happens. >> something we accuse banana republic of. >> avoid even the appearance. democracy is so important. i would say right now it's so fragile. anything that would give him the benefit of the doubt. it's above board. if it creates the appearance of impropriority. that's a problem. >> sit back and think about this. if you think i can win, i'm the best. fine. what's wrong with having someone else come in and over see the election? impartial. if you have confidence in your
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number. >> in florida this is similar to the jeb bush. being the governor. and katherine harris in florida. and 2000. a similar situation. maybe they should do something. >> van and i had a conversation. the green room conversations. one of the things we said is that last night i think he actually brought it to my attention. we didn't necessarily articulate how much stacey abrams had to over come. we talk about the fact she got this close. but she got this close and still running great race. it's not over yet. she had to over come the voter suppression. people didn't vote. until after midnight. there were polling places in georgia that didn't have power cords. for the voting. >> there was a place that had one or two voting machines and people were lined up. >> if you have electric
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machines. how do you not give them poir cords? >> this is america. >> i want to play the exchange. from the president press conference today. >> michael cohen said you called black voters stupid. >> false. >> using the n word and the rapper little john said you called him uncle tom. what's the response? >> i don't know who little john is. >> he was on the apprentice sfwl i don't know. >> i would never do that. i don't use racist remarks. if i did, you people you would have known about it. i have been hearing there are tapes for years. number one, i never worried about it. i never used racist. i have never used racist remarks. >> okay. he denies that. there are pictures with him with little john. there's a video of tape of him. on the show. but twice. >> disavow the fact in order to
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be racist you have to say the n word. his actions and the language. that he traffics in has been there. i'm a little john fan. he's a cure iter of my college years. >> little or lil? >> you said little. >> don't come for me unless i send for you. >> sorry. >> i feel like scott jennings. >> little marco. >> no response. >> he denies it. what do you think? >> well, yeah. i think it's totally plausible he doesn't remember meeting somebody. or met somebody. i love your music. and. >> you think he loves lil johns music? >> he might have said that. >> thank you. >> nothing. >> what happens when an african american female white house correspondent trying to ask a question at the president's
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so. the president held an angry combative, press conference today for almost an hour and a half. one point branding a reporters question as racist. after she asked about his support for nationalism. and whether that support might em bolden white nationalists. i want to bring in someone who had her own run in with the president today. april ryan. the author of under fire. reporting from the front lines of the trump white house. so, it seemed like a legitimate question to most people. good evening to you. i want to get your response.
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>> good evening. >> the response between trump and the white house correspondent for pbs. here it is. >> on the campaign trail you called yourself a nationalist. some people saw that as em boldening white nationalists. >> such a racist question. >> now the republican party is seen as supporting white nationalist because of your rhetoric. >> i don't believe it. why do i have my highest poll numbers ever with african americans. that's a racest question. honestly. i have it written down and you'll tell me. it's a racist question. to say that what you said is insulting to me. it's a terrible thing that you said. >> i didn't understand his response. it was completely inappropriate. the question was appropriate. and anything but racist. what was the president trying to do? >> the president was saying that she was accusing him of being a
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white nationalist. she asked the question as many not just black people but white people are wondering about the term nationalist. when there's something called white nationalists. and he could have easily instead of being on the defense, or the on the defensive he could have just decided to explain once again. what his version of nationalist means. it's a simple back and forth that could have been dealt with. instead it's blown up and it's more of a magnifying glass on his nationalism. versus white nationalism. or combined or different. we don't know. the president never explained. >> yeah. well. there you go. you tried to get a question. there's more behind it. with don't have all night. let's be honest. you tried to get a question. >> we don't.
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>> sit down, please. sit down. i didn't call you. i didn't call you. i'll give you voter suppression. i'm not responding to you. sit down. such a hostile lady. it's so sad. you ask me about. you rudely interrupted him. you rudely interrupted him. >> so, what is going on. do you think not only has a problem with the press at large for asking tough questions. does he have a problem with women and people of color asking tough questions? what's happening here. >> i know for sure he has a problem with me. but it was something to see. >> did you interrupt someone? >> let me tell you what happened. and as a reporter you know this. there was a moment. the president stopd answering a
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question. he was going into ask someone else calling on someone else. >> a pause. >> you jumped it. >> people yell questions out all the time and responds. >> yes. i was in the second row. i lobbed the question at him. in the pause moment. and he responded. and he said yeah, yeah. something about jyeah voter suppression. he responded so i stood up. i thought he was responding to me. i don't know. he saw it was me he got very upset. and said sit down. i wasn't being hostile. and i was not being rude. this is a real issue. and don, we were on the set until 5:00 this morning talking about issues of voetding in the midterms and brought up the issue of voter irregularity in
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georgia and north dakota and texas since then. i talked to naacp. he said there's voting irregularity in north carolina. and. >> there were a number of them all over. >> and florida. >> all over the country. especially the south. i have to get this in. back in 2011, i sper viewed then businessman donald trump. i pushed him on stereo types about black people. including president obama. >> when you talk about someone like the president. and challenge whether or not he is has an education or deserves to go fo ivy league schools. you are bringing up promoting one of the stereo types about african americans. wouldn't you be sensitive to the issues? >> it does mean everyone. and it means everyone to me. as far as i'm concerned the president is a very smart man. and i think a comment about racism is ridiculous. as it applies to me.
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people who know me laugh at it. it's so stupid. and i certainly as it applies to me. >> interesting. there's a back story behind that. what happened after wards. but again we don't have enough time. he's never been able to link his words in the way they demean people of color in the country. has he? >> no. and his actions as well. it's this is beyond. this is really beyond just a older gentleman from queens. and i'm using that term loosely. people want to say he's in his 70s from queens. no. no. he even said today he thinks he's a great moral leader. morality involves how you treat others. do unto others have you have them do unto you. someone asked him about church. and his faith. he got off that fast. it's a different day.
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and for the president of the united states to have to be asked about issues of race and are you a racist? it's a sad day. i asked it in january. are you a racist? he never responded. it took three days. >> the evidence is in. you said spoke about church. and the church has spoken. thank you. i appreciate it. >> amen. >> congress is getting a lot more diverse now. the midterms usher in a whole lot of firsts. my next guest is one of the first two native american women elected to the house. the first openly lgbt person elected to congress. from kansas.
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multiple injuries. they are treating it as an active shooter situation. this is not over yet. they are urging people to avoid that area. and we are hearing from people checking on their friends in that bar. we'll bring that sound up. >> the gunman started shooting at the front desk. and from there i'm not sure. students and friends i have in there reported that students are hiding in the attic and bathroom and stuff. so, terrible. >> same thing from friends i have heard. it's a matter of kind of get lg themselves out of the chaos. and getting themss secluded from what's going on. so it's waiting back to hear. we're out here waiting for them. and open to them. and taking them back to campus. it's a matter of making sure everyone is safe. and everything is good. >> is this a bar you have been been to a lot?
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>> i haven't personally. it's popular with line dancing and especially on wednesday. it's student night. obviously a lot of people were in there. it's important that we figure out what's going on. >> listening to two gentlemen who have friends that are still inside. that nightclub. we understand that it was a college night. on the phone now. cnn contributor. steve, this is so unnerving. we report too many times about shootings like this. we understand this situation it is an active shooter situation. it is not under control. at this point. what have you been able to pull together so far? >> i have not come up with any further information on this. i can tell you that i'm about a mile from the place right now. it's a place i'm familiar with.
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a place that my daughter has gone to. on student night. and it's a very popular area. a location in area. thousand oaks is a suburb of los angeles. it is kind of an upscale suburb. and you'll find a will the of people there because not a lot of places are open that late. anywhere around here. >> of course as you were speaking to us, we're looking at the pictures. aerial shots of the situation. we have seen a number of ambulances there. on the scene. police are clearly there. at the ready. trying to control the situation. again just prerepeating for viewers. we are following this active shooter situation. at a bar. it is a nightclub there. in thousand oaks in california. it is a college night.
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apparently. so there are a number of people there. inside the building. looking again at the aerial shots. just bringing you back in. talk to us again about this area. authorities are saying they want people to stay clear of the area. and the way they do that if they know where this is. where is the located? >> specifically within the town or relates to los angeles? >> so for any of the viewers. we are being seen across the united states. right now. as well as across the globe. we want to -- all right. we have some witness sound. standby. >> people are innocently doing their own thing. minding their business. what are your thoughts? >> i don't think it should be politicized.
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everyone should help their friends get home and be safe. and try and make sure it doesn't happen again. >> whatever is on your heart. >> i know it's gets politicized every time it happens. so. >> thank you. >> how about you. friends, family inside? >> support. >> support is important. >> have you ever partied at borderline? >> no. >> let me ask this gentleman. you had a business reason to be here. a driver? >> uber driver. >> somebody called you to pick them up. >> yeah. sounded like people running everywhere. >> have you made pick ups here before? this evening. >> no. just i came out over here. it was people running. and that's it. >> can i get your name.
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>> fasil. >> all right. thank you for your time. >> be well. >> steve, just bringing you back in. we were listening to some people talking there with the affiliates. trying to get information. trying to get answers. there isn't a lot to go by. steve, let's talk about where this is exactly. anyone watching can stay away from the area. this nightclub. we understand we're not going to name it. it's a bar where there's young people. celebrating a college night. in thousand oaks. in california. a suburb of los angeles. talk about what you know about this area. >> well, thousand oaks is a upscale suburb of los angeles. it's about 30 miles northwest of
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los angeles. and it's a nice it's a residential community. quiet and conservative. the location of this bar is very popular. in town. they have it's country western themed. usually. they'll be line dancing things like that going on. and it's probably the one largest venue that would be open at this time of the night in thousand oaks. literally this town is as i said it's a bedroom community. and that's where most of the people in thousand oaks are now. i would say right now 99% of thousand oaks isn't aware. simply because it's a workweek. that anything has gone on. >> yeah. of course for those of us those people joining us from around
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the world and on the east coast. it is about 1:00 in the morning. there. at thousand oaks in california. we look at this aerial shot. police trying to bring the situation under control. it's still an active shooter situation. we were talking there with cnn law enforcement contributor. he join pd us on the line. explaining the environment there. it is a suburb of l.a. we'll have more news. at the top of the hour. stay with us. ugh. this screen! you know, sprint has the awesome new iphone xr. oooh. let's take a picture! whoa! it's so clear! yeah, it has an amazing liquid retina display... (photographer) look at the colors! ...on a network built for unlimited. this is amazing! and it's only $0 per month, compliments of sprint. i can't hold this smile much longer! i can. (vo) it's here! we'll give you the iphone xr to use for $0 per month with eligible trade-in for people with hearing loss, when you switch to the sprint network.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. breaking news this morning. a shooting at a bar in thousand oaks, california. all of the details as we cover them. we have a breaking situation. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. it is thursday, november 8th. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. 1:00 a.m. in los angeles. police were called
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