>> watch "this is life with lisa ling" sunday at 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. okay. we're back at 10:00 eastern for cnn newsroom. >> "smerconish" is next. ♪ i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. only a few seats remain undecided in the midturls. the new freshman class has descended for a congressional boot camp. i'll get the inside scoop from one of them and many demonized her as the intern who led to impeachment. she's speaking out about the #me

too movement. plus the amazon head quarters sweep stakes are over and they're poorer. so why do cities keep spending billions to cannibalize one another? and really again? hillary clinton running again in 2020? i'll ask one of them if he thinks anybody else agrees. but first next week is thanksgiving. if you tune in that saturday and i'm not here, i might be serving five years or paying a $10,000 fine. apparently i violated the election law by not voting twice. please keep in mind that voting for me is sack rosangt. i've never missed an vote i've been eligible. i want to change my state's

regressive voting laws and your states too. i previously uctatalked about h restrictive pennsylvania voting is. you can only vote on election day itself here. my state's absentee process is historically restrictive. provable cause, religious observance or swear you'll be physically absent from your town on election day. even philly's firefighters and emts can't vote absentee just because they're working around the clock in the same prince palt. if you're able to vote in person on election day, you must go to your polling place, void your absentee ballot and vote there. i was scheduled to cover the midterms for cnn.

i received it, returned it on time. i then worked sunday, monday, and tuesday in washington. i was planning on staying in d.c. on election night but i was able to go back to philadelphia that afternoon, arriving before the polls opened add 8:00 a.m. i it did not go to my polling place. inither words i was expected to vote twice. variations on this theme cropped up. like the rejection due oo signatures not matching exactly. we tentd to stifle it with no early voting and making absentee voting difficult and i think it's deliberate to hold down the vote. on election morning from washington i watched live coverage of voters standing in line in the rain to vote in bucks county, pennsylvania the

seat off a hotly congressional race and when i tweeted that this is another reminder of why this state needs change its rules, i was pleased to receive an retweet from that, he said i introduced it legislatively in 2009. needs happen. amen and i call him in my defense. in the meantime i've already found a lawyer to represent me. so bring it on. now there was a legendary line that end of the 1972 classic movie "the candidate". you remember after bill mccay wins an upset for senator, he asks what do we do now? mccay never gets an answer. but that is not the case with dozens of newly elected members of congress. the youngest member sharing her

experiences on her instagram feed showing her swag bag, the secret passageways, even jefferson's copy of plato's republic. congresswoman elect, susan wild won the seat vacated by contributor, charley dent. what's orientation like? >> orientation has been fast and furious. it's -- they're teaching us a lot and it's everything from sessions on ethics, which are of course incredibly important and mine ugs aa of how you can use your cell phone, what the budget is for your office, what kinds of staffing you might need and in week two my understanding is we'll get into some of the more substntive areas. >> it seems everybody's got that pledge pin. >> we don't get pins until we

actually are sworn in. i will be sworn in early a because i won a special election as well as a general and as soon as you get sworn in, you get the special pin. >> how are committee assignments handled and bhaut committees are you particularly interested in? >> well, they're handled, as i understand it, once you've made a determination of committees you've want to be on. i understand the first thing i should do is talk to the dean off my delegation. in this case mike doyle of pennsylvania. as well as the ranking chairs of those committees that i'm interested in and eventually prepare a letter to be sent to whom ever the new leader is expressing my interest and i've been told we should have a series of possible committees weir are interested in because the chances of getting our first

choice is somewhat low. >> the president this morning he tweeted on that subject and we'll show everybody what president trump said. i can get nancy pelosi as many votes as she wants to be speaker of the house. the are those in her party ewho are trying to take it away. she will win. what kind of pressure is being put on you as a newly elected member off the house relative to the leadership fight? >> it's like running for anything, honestly. people have reached out by text, by email, by phone call letting us know each of us in the freshman class that they are interested in certain positions in leadership. i would withant call it pressure. but i'm well aware of each person running for the different positions and why they think they're the best for the job.

>> do you have ang office? is that handled in seen yort and if i understand you may be sworn in a few weeks ahead of oyour colleagues because of the special election. did it it bump you up the ladder? >> it did. last night i was fortunate enough because the state of pennsylvania certified my etlee election to the house of representatives shs i was able to pick up my keys, the office formerly used by charley dent. it's a rather grand office. it will not be my permanent office. as i understand in january i'll need relocate, which is a little sad buttialver senorty in terms of going through the lottery process. those of us that won special elections and have already been sworn in will take office one

week ahead of >> you're going to congress. what has been the pinch-me moment so far? >> no question about it it getting the keys last night. it was after 6:00 andope thing doors to the office and realizing for the next few weeks while we're in session i'll be working out of that office and i'll be a congresswoman. that is the pinch-me moment. it really felt real at that moment in time. >> congrats and good luck. >> thank you so much. >> go to my facebook page. i'll read some responses throughout the course of the program. as an alabaman i kaebt wait to see how this plays out. no doubt about it i want to draw attention to this issue because i don't see my state legislature doing anything about it. i'm envious of the 37 states

that have mail-in ballot. oregon, you're the gold standard as far as i'm concerned and i'm happy to be a test case. go to my website and answer this surv survey question about an issue we will get to later. do you agree with this week's wall street journal oped that hillary clinton will run in 2020. i'm not asking if you want her to run. i'm asking if you're agreeing with the assessment of she's getting in? up ahead when news broke about her affair with bill clinton, then intern monica l u lewinsky was demonized. might it be different today? >> it's not as if it didn't register with me that he was the president but i thing in one way the moment we were actually in the back office for the first time, the truth is i think it

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mostly remained silent but in the me too movement, people are reassessing the intern. and she's speak up out on a documentary called the clinton affair on a & e. >> he, you know, paid a lautd of attention to me. he spent time holding my hand longer than he should have and given what others described as the full bill clinton. it feels as if you're the only person standing there. the next day we ehad a surprise party for bill on the south lawn that the staff was having. i did this really silly thing. i ran home at lunch time and i put back on the sage green suit i had been wear ting day before when he paid attention to me and i thought well, maybe he'll

notice me again and notice me he did. >> she revealed her motivation in coming forward in a piece she wrote for vanity fair saying it forced me to admit past behavior that i feel ashamed of but i hope that participating about a time in my life, a time in history i can help insure shur that what happened to me never happens another young person in the country. if her story broke today, would things be different? joining me is a staff writer at slate and a a host off a terrific podcast called slow burn which devoted its second season to the clinton scandal. and wrote the piece monica li lewinsky is finally having her moment. i said from this moment forward

i will call it the intern scandal. not the lewinsky scandal and i'm sorry it took me so long. your first words reference the way we labelled it then. why did it stick? >> i think at the time there was an outside focus not on bill clinton who is himself the president but on monica lewinsky seen as the other woman and mr. clinton called her that woman. when the focus should have been on the president of the united states having an affair with someone who is his subordinate. >> i know it's called "the clinton affair". you say people's reactions 20 years ago are inexplicable, viewed through the prism of otwo decades. >> i mean it's very hard to identify with people who made

fun of her. i think we should have a better appreciation of owhat they go through when they're in relationships that have this pow and balance. maybe we have more vivid understanding of how that suffering feels but it's very hard to identify with the people who mocked her and ridiculed her. >> what's top of mind? >> bill maher called her a home wrecker, said if anyone owes the country an apology shs it's her. it's an absurd point of view and hard to imagine anyone saying that today. >> ana, she herself has had a change of heart. in 2014 she had written that her relationship with clinton had been consengsal and any abuse came in the aftermath when i was made scapegoat but by february 2018 in light of the #me toer

are movement he's reconsidered that. >> she thinks of a lot of nuance of what she went through at that time. she's said in the past that what happened was consensual and she hasn't can exactly said it wasn't but she is thinking through the power dynamics j that's between the president of of the country and a 22-year-old intern is a pretty enormous gap and i think a strength of her as a voice in this moment is not only that she's able to speak for herself and she's speaking for herself what is this really thinking through what went on and what was inappropriate about it. >> does she believe, leon, that she had clean hands? does she go that far as to say it's all on him? >> she makes a big point that

she spent a lotf otime apologizing to people and regrets a lot of what happened. i would hope she doesn't feel responsible ultimately with the way it all played out because there were so many other elements of the story. in order for it to get to where it got with ken starr and impeachment, a lot of different pieces had to go a certain way and it wasn't her fault. >> i thought your point about the podcast was the very first episode in the hotel room. can you give us the cliff notes version of day one. >> so monica lewinsky was friends with a colleague, linda trip, who had been recording her phone calls for months and on that day that you're referencing, linda trip led fbi

agents fo age to a meeting place where she was going to have lunch with monica lewinsky and instead of having lunch, she found herself being ambushed by fbi agents who took her into a hotel room and asked to cooperate by wearing a wire, by basically obviously telling them everything that happened and essentially serving as a cooperating witness. >> she's able, if she chooses -- and eventually when mom ariebs, she does get legal counsel but she's discouraged from it and spends 11 hours in that hotel room? >> yes, 11 harrowing hours. >> 24 years old. >> yes, very hard -- and to be fair she did not keep her cool. i think she suffered through that day and there were times when there were moments off levity when they left the hotel room to kill time while they

were waiting for her mugter to get there, they went shopping shs dinner. but it was a that she could only process as a fantasy happening round her. >> so let's sort of switch now gears and say what can bill clinton do at this moment in time to preserve his reputation? i want to show you -- you've seen it of course, we've all seen it, what he said as recently eas june about this whole spectacle. >> but you didn't apologize to her? >> i have not talked to her. i do not -- i never talked to her. but i did say publicly on more than one occasion that i was sorry. >> there anything that former president bill clinton can do to sort of stop the damage as people are? as you indicated reassessing how

they do this? >> something monica lewinsky says is she's not necessarily disappointed in him or by him by his refusal so far to apologize but dis pointed for him. disappointed that he can't be the better man and come forward and say he's sorry and disappointed for the country that we don't get to experience what it could be like. i think it it could be useful to offer a more pointed apology. he doesn't appear he's reassessed in a way wlee have and i think that would be crucial. >> you say you really don't know in the moment how history is going to treat something. >> that's right. i think one of the fun things about doing my podcast in which we look back at seismic events

in history is seeing how clueless we are about how events will settle in people's collective memory down the line. rifrlts something i'm curious about. how we're going to look back 20 years from now. >> nicely done. thank you both. so what are the rest of you saying via my smerconish facebook and twitter pages. don't want to hear anything from monica. unlike majority of me too victims she was a willing participant. listen to this podcast. the slow burn podcast. i wondfer it will change your perspective and i'm not holding her harmless but at age 24, makes the mistake and the feds step in. she's going to a food court with linda tripp. i thing this is what angered me

as an attorney and gets headed off by federal type whose usher her into a hotel room. she's there for 11 hours, cautioned against making a phone call to a lawyer on and so forth and really for that? for that underlying incident, the full weight of the federal government is going to come down on a 24-year-old intern? no. and frankly too much on him. that was a domestic issue best handled in his marriage. the best response was for his clothing to be littered on the south lawn from the second floor window. don't get me started on that. still to come. the amazon head quarters and the winners lost $2.8 billion. isn't there something wrong with this picture? and. and an article in the wall street journal claiming hillary clinton is definite lay running

in 2020 and will easily capture the nomination. is that right? answer the survey question. do you agree with this week's wall street journal ope derks that she'll run in 2020? >> democrats would do well to try a different approach. i'm running against donald trump. you're not going to vote for him, are you? when i walked through a snowstorm for a cigarette, that's when i knew i had to quit. for real this time.

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edeciding to split the decision between new york city and west virginia about 2.8 billion worth. it's the latest examples of diverting much needed funds from infrastructure search as schools and roads and police. was this nothing more than an stunt to inflate the bids? and shouldn't they have chosen to revitalize a midwestern city instead? it should be illegal. he's a staff writer for the atlantic. i thought the new york times editorial page made a point. that what amazon most coveted in teens were these millennial tech types and that had nothing to do with incentives offers by new york sit ay. >> it doesn't like you should

need 230 applications for a retail, media advertising company that to expantd in the nation's foot print in new york city. further more we know amazon's cloud services division is looking to get pentagon contracts. they happen to be in the shadow of the pentagon. whether or not they had gotten 6 $600 million from northern virginia. we have a company going to go to d.c. and new york cities anyway but draumatized to stage a cinderella ball contest to see who could have the most glitering city application, that raised the price of the bid and it won a nearly trillion dollar company several billion in subsidies.

>> you anticipate correctly the critique. they're in business to make money. it's not their fault. >> it's that's right. it's hard to blame amazon, because amazon is just trying to make a profit. that, to an extent, is their fidish yare duty. it doesn't make sense to say nashville is bidding and chicago's bidding but i'm not going to bid anything. that seems like unilateral disarmament. i think it has to be solved at an interstate level. unfortunately the u.s. constitution gives the power to regulate which is why we should look into passing a law by offering billions in subsidies

to companies that already make billions a year. >> i'm with with you on your assessment of the issue and it's not just amazon or i wouldn't have dedicated a segment to it. boeing, nike a, intel, tesla, nissan, ford have each received subsidy packages worth more than 1 billion to keep their head quarters right where they are. i would like to see elected officials who cut these deals held accountable. if you think they gave away the store to amazon in queens, then hold bill de blasio accountable. >> i have nothing against holding these mayors and governors count lk. a scandal like this is going to

be forced off of page in 12 hours. every day we have a scandal that replaces the previous week's big story. so my fear is we have this conversation right now about corporate subsidies and it's going to disappear. people are going to forget ede blasio and cuomoo is behind this and we're going to move on with our lives and focusen the presidential election. but if this is indeed problem, it has to be solved at a larger level. >> and finally you do acknowledge if congress were to do something about this, there would be a question as to constitutionality. now you owe taxes on whatever subsidy you provided. but you would acknowledge there was a constitutional issue. we ban bribery of a foreign company.

what they are in a way is they're like bribery. so i don't have a huge problem with the government saying either we find a way to ban this or tax corporate suck sudies on the back end. i think lots of people can recognize it's a problem. but let's focus first eon the fact that this is hanning. cost the u.s. between 70 and $90 billion a year. it is that scale offf a problem and that scale off a problem might require a large scale national solution. >> it's a great conversation starter. i'm told there's a lot of reaction. i'm not surprised frrps i love amazon but after hearing this i'm really conflicted. again amazon's in business to make money. if you were an amazon stock

holder, you'd be saying that's exactly what i want them to do. if these cities are willing to compete against each other, amazon would be foolish, so would say a different perspective, not to do it. still to come two long-term democrats and clinton pals wrote an oped saying she's running in 2020 and she will win the nominations. do you agree? go to smerconish.com right now and answer the survey question because i'm about to talk to one of the authors. >> do you want to run again? >> well, i'd like to be president

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she will easily capture the 2020 nomination. as you can imagine there was passingt reaction to this theory. it was co written by mark penn. and my next guest, andrew stein, former democratic manhattan bureau president and president of the new york city counsel and now chair of democrats for trump. what was your motivation in writing this? >> we were having lunch, michael and we were just shootering the breeze and i think he's extreme ely smart and we decided hillary can get this nomination. if you have 12/14 people in there, she's got 75% positive approval with dems. she knows what she's doing. most of the field really stumbled terribly in the kavanaugh hearings and showed they're amateurs and i think she has an excellent shot of bying

the democratic candidatepub nixon not only lost to jfk in 1960 but the governorship of california in 1964 and everyone said that was it. he was finished. i think hillary has that same determination to be president and she has the base in the party. >> so here was my gut reaction. pen wants to take another shot and andrew stein wants hillary to take another shot because now he's tied up with trump and figures this is the one "d" trump can beat. >> that has certain ely been speculated about. i was head of democrats for trump during the last campaign and i think he's got a terrific record. i mean look at the economy, black unemployment, hispanic

unemployment, cancel the iran treaty which i thought was a real serious problem. you don't hear about the caliphate like you did when obama was there. >> respectfully to my question and you think she's the one he's best equipped to defeat? >> i think he'll defeat any democrat that runs. i think that's not true what you say because i think hillary is tough. she's learned a lot from her defeat and i don't think she'd be the easiest candidate. i think people like kamela harris and others are basically neophytes. if you haven't run nation nationally, it's like nothing you could do. the pressure is unbelievable. i don't think a lot of these democrats would be able to stand up to the president and stand up

to the mead ai glare. hillary is used to it. >> here's what you wrote. you say this version will be quote strong, partisan, left leaning and all democrat, the one with guts, experience and steely-eyed determination to defeat mr. trump. and nothing that reminds me nothing stops you and penn from wagering money on this if you think she's going to win the nomination >> well, thanks for the tip, michael. maybe we will. >> "joe biden will never be able to take her on." why do you say that? >> i like joe biden and he has a lot of nice qualities as a person and he's got that working class background but he's never been able to run well in the democratic primaries when he's by himself.

he tried many, many times and lost. i think hillary's a much more formidable candidate with her experience. >> do you think she was pleased or displeased to see what you published in the journal? i'm taking for granted you didn't get her approval? what codo you think her reaction was? >> i think she's got to be happy with it. i know hillary for a long time. she because at my son's bar mitzvah. i think she's probably happy because it got so much circulation and she's back in the ball game and back in the run and being speculated on as the democratic candidate. so i think she's happy with the piece. >> andrew, thanks for being here. we're about to find out what this audience things in terms of you being on the right track but i appreciate you being here.

it's your last chance to cast a ballot on this issue. when we come backument rr going to give you the result off the survey question. do you agree with this week's wall street journal oped do you think hillary clinton will run? not with if you want her to run, do you agree she's in this thing? we'll get your best tweets and facebook comments as well like this one. smerconish, not only should hrc run she has a really good chance. tell me a candidate that can galvanize half of what she received in the general election. her base is always there. you might be right. you can't be someone with no one so i guess thencer to say that's ridiculous is okay. who's got the better shot than the candidate who won the popular vote in the last go round? go vote.

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this is going to be interesting. how did you respond to the survey question today at smerconish.com? do you agree with this week's wall street journal op-ed that hillary will one in 2020? 10,996 votes, 72% say she will not. 28% say, you know what, she's getting into this thing. here's something else of what you thought this week, what do we have in terms of social media reaction? smerconish, why couldn't i vote twice on your hillary poll if

you could just vote twice in the election? no, john, you're mis understanding. my violation of pennsylvania law is that i didn't vote twice. think about the stupidity of that. if i'm in trouble with the law it's because i should have voted twice, me, a guy who takes the franchise so seriously that i've never missed an election since i turned 18. i've run afoul of the law because you should have voted two times. my state doesn't want to increase participation, and a lot of other states are just like it. what's next? smerconish, lock him -- yeah, okay. next. there's not much i can say to that. you've been under the radar with the trump administration @smerconish, your illegal voting makes you the blue wave. thanks, pal. yeah, i'm the fraud they're talking about, i'm the guy that takes it so seriously that i'll take heroic measures to make

sure i'm still voting. one more. smerconish, amazon should be ashamed of themselves, they don't need billions of dollars in tax breaks. this is not helping the americans who need help the most. allison in gal veston, i get that. what is amazon's mission? we want them to have the best interests of the country at stake, but they're in the interest of making money. if they can get the municipalities to cannibalize each other by outbidding each other on tax breaks they don't need, what do you expect they do? they ignited the process. they should be better than that. but the answer is this, hold accountable the elected officials that you think give away the store. catch up with us anytime on cnn go and on demand. i'll be here, i think, next week the saturday after thanksgiving. when i walked through a snowstorm for a cigarette,

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