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this is gps, the global public square. welcome to those around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. world leaders have been meeting this weekend, but one leader has been noticeably absent from this year's apec summit, donald trump. why isn't he there? also, what in the world is going on with brexit? we'll tackle all of it with a terrific panel. and the 2018 midterms are
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over sort of. now it's time to learn lessons and look ahead to 2020. the big question, should democrats zig left or zag towards the center? we'll have a debate. >> finally we'll put the art into artificial intelligence. can you pick out which of these paintings was panltinted by a robot? stay tuned to find out. first, here is my take. it's easy to get distracted by the trump presidency. what is the larger effect? take a look at three gatherings this week on the other side of the planet attended by all of the countries the summits in singapore are particularly important because countries in the region are trying to navigate the power shift taking place there, the rise of china.
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it is crucial they understand the role of the current super power, the united states. the president of the united states is mia. donald trump chose to skip the summits and send mike pence in his place. china's president and india's all visited by the singapore while japan and south korea traveled to both. a persistent complaint from asian countries has been while the united states worries about the rise of china as pence did it is abandoning the field to beijing. we are seeing the trump effect on trade as well. the two mechanisms that were
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moving towards completion in the region had been the transpacific partnership. trump will undermine the facts of giving a stable alternative to a chinese dominated system. after 24 rounds of negotiation which includes china they have slowed perhaps even strong. india trying to protect its market. other countries are trying to keep india service industries out. it is all simply an echo of what the world's super power is doing in its own trade negotiations. i have said before and continue to believe that the trump administration has a valid point about china's abuse of the global trading system. it is right to get right with beijing. it is to trade in general repeatedly voiced by the
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president. trump said in july -- >> if we didn't trade we would save a hell of a lot of money. >> the statement is simply false. the expansion of trade since 1950 raised u.s. gdp to the tune of 2.1 trillion in 2016. that is the equivalent of a gain of 17,014 per person or 18,131 per household. there are few ideas that have been as thoroughly tested as the notion that trade raises the country's and living standards. it can raise cooperation and peace as it has done in europe and might help do in asia. american leaders understood that for decades until now. in 1998 ronald reagan said this.
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>> we should be ready of the demagogues weakenening our national security and the entire free world all while waving the flag. the expansion is not a foreign invasion. it is an american triumph, one we worked hard to achieve. >> for more go to cnn.com and read my washington post columnist this week. let's get started. let's keep the conversation going with today's panel. it was president obama's assistant secretary of state from '09 to '13. he focused on asia. he is a global business
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columnist and cnn's global economic analyst. this is the founder and president of the foreign affairs columnist for time magazine. let me start with you. what i -- you wrote a very significant article in foreign affairs which you said basically both sides of the aisle, republicans and democrats had gotten china wrong. it caused a lot of controversy. what is the implication for u.s. policy towards china? are you saying that what donald trump represents is the new normal? a much tougher policy towards china? >> thank you. i would say i think the argument of the piece was more than the conditions have changed. i actually think a collection of bipartisans did follow the right strategy for decades but that the course that kline that has chosen is quite different than what we had hoped for a long
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period of time. it requires us to have a fairly significant rethinking of what the strategic approach of the united states and other countries should be towards china. the argument however is very different from what the policy prescription that the president has proposed. what we need is multi-facetted approach that frankly involves participating in summits and engagements that the president is missing this week plus a multi-facetted trade that reminds asians that the united states intends to play an important role for decades to come. >> you were just there. is it your sense that they -- that there are people beginning to feel we are entering a new cold war? >> there certainly is a growing concern about that. the notion that china has it has become wealthier is absolutely
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not going to politically reform and they are going to start creating institutions. it is a that she knows not only the americans and the europeans have but also singapore and malaysians. people are very concerned the u.s. might not be as committed to them but concerned that their future is a problem. there's no question in the technology space china developing an alternative ai. it feels increasingly like a cold war. the question is on trade. it is is he working on executing and implementing a new normt or whether he will meet be them and say hey, we have money. i am a president. she a president. here is our knew deal like he tried to do. i could easily see him doing the latter. >> and you say building on this
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idea of the future we are entering a world where there will be a european and chinese. >> it has been happening since the u.s. china conflict has began. there will be other countries that will come into that orbit. i spoke to a venture capitalist that told he me isn't allow today invest in the u.s. but that's okay because he sees china as a kind of of a u.s. market post world war ii. it is big enough. it can grow on its own. how will the u.s. and europe engage? that's where the vast majority of the growth is? are there alliances made? i think it would mean bad things for the u.s. >> before we take a break ian's
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question, the deal makers that say let's scare china and get a better deal. there are people that, no, we need to disentangle this relationship. which do you think will prevail? >> there is a group that says if china buys more stuff, boeing jets, ranching products, farm stuff, that we can resettle accounts a bit and the president can tap those as examples of his leadership. another group says it needs to be deeper, structure reforms, china discarding 2025 and allowing other firms engagement in china. there's even a third group that
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says no. what we really need to do is disedi disentangle. i think each of these groups vie for for attention with the president. what is fascinating is that the relationship between our two countries has never been more complicated and more complex but fundamentally the institutions that have been tasked for decades to manage the relationship have never been less influential. ultimately every major decision is made by two men. both shared some fascinating commonalities there. they seem to be skeptical of advice they get from people beneath them.
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it is the ability to make decisions under pressure. so frankly the most important bilateral meeting we have seen is about to take place in a couple of weeks. anyone knows what the outcome will be. don't go away. within we come back we'll talk about the wieltd week across the bond. what is best for brexit and theresa may when we come back. [woman 1] this... [woman 2] ..this... [man 1] ...this is my body of proof. [man 2] proof of less joint pain... [woman 3] ...and clearer skin. [man 3] proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... [woman 4] ...with humira. [woman 5] humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible
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to brexit or not to brexit. that remains the question. she presented her draft plan for leading the eu on wednesday. it was sort of a soft brexit and came a raft of resignations. it made many questions they may could get this deal done. ian, this seems like a bit of a freak show or maybe other ways to describe it. it's not working out. >> finally we have something that everyone in the u.k. can agree upon. the fact is that the u.k. and prime minister may is in a position which she is trying to act doe mesically as if she can get a better deal. it's actually not possible. she was trying to negotiation as
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if she is an equal. she is negotiating against the economic super power which is not prepared to give them the deal they used to have. she can spin it doe mesically. as the rubber hits the road there's not a sense of impending crisis. there was the razor edge at the end and them facing a depression. it was forcing the political players in the u.k. to have to compromise. everyone is still playing politics the way they did when they put the referendum in the first place. she is going to face a no confidence vote which she could win or lose. it looked like they made no progress whatsoever. >> what that means is that basically what britain is looking for is access to the european market.
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they are saying of course you can't get that. you only get that if you're a full member. so either the government will have to fall or it seems to me there will have to be a referendum. >> i think that's prospect. the most likely outcome here is that there is a vote of no confidence. theresa may then has a year where they can't have another such vote. she puts together a slightly tweaked deal. it gets to be truly towards the end of negotiating. that's the way you ultimately get a deal done. you to create urgency. some times they say you need to make it bigger. that's what needs to happen in the u.k. if you want to get from here. >> all of this brings up your
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come l column. it is moving towards deglobalization. they are beginning the disentangle the u.s./china relationship. supply chains are coming home. >> a lot of them are kind of in a period of willful blindness. we have had 40 years. all of that is changing right now. i think it is very possible you'll see the u.k. go into a period of renegotiations. i think in particular germany's perspective they can't afford to let me countries fall out of the yun yochblt we have seen italy have a pop list election. i think that the rules of the game are changing. the heads of these nations are waiting to see who blinks first. who is going move their supply
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chain? i think until have get cohesion you'll have market volatility. >> they have looking at europe and united states. what are they saying? >> it is such critical period when the line shair is now clearly going to be written in asia. the disharmony and disunity is terribly anxiety provoking. i think it causes the countries to think i have to get my best deal with china. i have to think more about my neighborhood. these countries that have played such a large role in helping shape our environment through
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trade, institutions and through defense, they are not as reliable in the future as they have been in the fast. >> fascinating. pleasure to have you all on. we'll have you back. all right. next up, it is not in silicon valley. it is not in kline thchina. it is in an unlikely location. we'll take you there when we come back. make a smart choice. replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna...
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to foster in france. it was built with private money by the french telecom millionaire. in the building they homed programs working with starbucks. is it the silicon valley? we asked. >> a lot of people think it looks like it because it we have an eco. we don't want to be compared to silicon valley. we like to think what's happening here is unique and unique to what's happening. >> so what is happening? london is still the tech hub but post brexit france may have an opportunity to catch up. after his election macron announced an $11 billion fund for innovation.
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he passed tax and labor reforms designed to help businesses and make it easier to hire workers. he launched a new tech visa. there are signs of growth. in 2017 french capital firms raised $3.2 billion up from 596 million in 2014. the founders at station f want to harness that new money. it is computer training to poor communities including migrants and refugees. it work to place them in jobs. >> what we saw is that there were quite a few short-term solutions but not necessarily a me thplethora.
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it is access to jobs. >> there are many french working there as well. he is developing a we head set to guide the blind. he shared with us a vehicle code. it would be able to transmit that information to the user through vibrating hedge funds. >> i wasn't bungering. why are we sending robots to mars? why are we done creating things so that it was to transfer what we are doing in robotics and to apply it to something close to
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other people. >> so can all of this leave there and banish a 35 hour workweek or france has a long way to go. macron has made progress. it needs a broader culture of innovation. initiatives like station f and lot more like them could be the start of a revolution. next on gps, how to take on donald trump and his republican party as they prepare for battle in 2020. should the democrats court this or move to the left? the great debate when we come back.
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so did the democrats achieve a blue wave in the 2018 midterm elections earlier this month? i leave it but i think it's safe to say they did pretty well. picked up more than 30 seats in the house of representatives. in the senate they still hold a majority. what should democrats do to learn from and build on the successes in 2020. should the party electrify and embrace it or veer to the center
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and pick up independence? joining me is a former politician himself now the founder of democracy and color. it is professor of journalism. let me ask you to give you the overall picture. it seems to me it is a little bit mixed. the democrats do it seems as in 2006 most of the districts moved left when you look at it you see that if you compare to the gains you made in 2006 and the war was very unpopular it was not as impressive in terms of this
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shift. when you compare to the republican gains after obama and health care it is nowhere nearly as impressive. the average went 1% to the right compared to 10% to the left. what's the sort of overall picture in. >> the democrats did a good job of mobilizing their base. they also did a good job of mobilizing his base. donald trump who i think is a horrific president does have capacity to scare and mobilize white voters. he brought those people out enough to save the senate for republicans. >> you can see it right? >> yeah. it is important to remember that this president has never enjoyed majority support in this country. we lost a popular election by 3
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million votes. he did not even get that in the state that gave him the election. he never made any attempt to govern. you saw a wave of people bearing the brunt of the attacks, substantial doubting up and fighting back across the country. >> when you look at it the big question is was nancy pelosi's strategy a clear one? it is we are not going to make it atrump or impeachment. it is not that trump wans us to
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like ent graintegration. it is practical concerns people have about health care and such. >> did it work? >> it absolutely worked. the problem is the democrats had to win to retake the house. a lot of districts that either voted for donald trump or were republican districts. in those districts wouldn't have worked. democrats didn't talk a lot about the russia probe at all. in those districts people want more civility. that may be a in the year of donald trump but they wanted people to be able to go and get things done even know even with donald trump as president and what nancy pelosi understood is that the issue of health care and maintaining preexisting conditions about the republican effort to repeal obamacare was an issue democrats could run on in the most blue districts and the most purple and the most red districts. it was a very very shrewd
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strategy. >> if you look at the math do the math the democratic party needs to move left not center. >> it is what is the priorities. we live in a country where they have trying to roll back towards greater inclusion and equality. are you going to stand up against that or some people feel like you have to kind of accommodate and do a lowest common denominator strategy. >> i suppose there aren't a lotover persuadables and trump
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is good at bringing out his. >> i don't entirely agree with that. there may not be that many persuadables. in a country that's very very split those people are very important. a big reason he won is he didn't talk at all about privatizing social security and medicare. it helped him. he won 10% of people who voted for bernie sanders. d democrats can do it by saying he promised you a kind of economic security. what he is doing is per suiursu. it works for every different race and gender. >> fascinating conversation which will continue in the months ahead. thank you both. up next, how being lead by
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when you think of people who have lead serbia it was part of the greater y. it was run by a super nationalist. in 1999 he became the first sits head of state to be indicted. i found it interesting that today serbia, a country that is 85% orthodox christian has ahead of government that is not the man and not the leader one might expect. she a gay female. she was in new york recently and came to the studio to el me about herself and how she came
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to become prime minister. pleasure to have you on. >> thank you for inviting me. >> i want you to tell us a little bit about serbia. it is -- at one level it is a very conservative country. it is orthodox and yet you have an astonishingly high number of members of of parliment. you have three of the four people who set your monetary policy for women. they are among the highest numbers in the world. how do you explain that cont contradiction? >> well, i think serbia is changing. we also have to deal with a lot of false perceptions about serbia that stems from the past. we are going in the right direction. i think we are going very very fast in the right direction. i'm proud of it. you know, in some cases like,
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you know, women empowerment, politics is leading the way compared to businesses. in politics in serbia we have a woman who is the president of the parliment. we have the governor, national bank, myself as the prime minister in my government. i have very very powerful women. we have minister of justice. you know, we have minister for the policy woman. we really have strong women in power and it's great to see. >> your old stories is even more unusual and distinctive because you're not just a woman but a gay woman. how difficult was it to grow up
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under those circumstances? >> i was very lucky, very very fortunate. i always had full support from my family and full support from all of my friends or closest friends. so more me it was pretty much like growing up any where else. i'm not the best person to talk about it. if you know who you are and run with it then other people will learn to cope with it and learn to accept it. you know, if me as openly gay woman prime minister is helping at least one person in serbia or elsewhere in the world feel better about themseves then i
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think i've already done a lot. >> you make it easier than people tell me it was. when you're going to politics, at that point did you -- have you had people oppose you, denounce you? >> absolutely from day one. you know, again, there i had huge support from the president of the country who is also the president of the largest political party that supports me and supports the government in the parliment. so i had the huge backing. without that backing i don't think i would be able to become the prime minister. we had a lot of opposition to this. some from even from the parties who are supporting the government and the coalition but actually did not vote for me and
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my government in the parliment because of my sexual orientation. >> do you get attacked on social media? >> i do. i do. these are really nasty stuff. >> how do you handle it? >> it is difficult. it makes my life difficult. it makes me -- it makes me more difficult to do my job because you kind of need a kind of special focus and strength to really, you know, disregard that and focus on what's very important and that is my job and that is what i will be able to do for the citizen. i make it -- i also want to be a very transparent prime minister. i want to be active on the social networks. i want to be approachable to people. i made it my policy not to block people on the social media,
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which is some times makes it more difficult. i don't want to block people on social media. i also want to some times even see because then i know how other people feel and what hau r they are going through. it is important for me. some times i do get really really tired and depressed because of that. i enjoy on the positive side, every seng l little success that we have. i really rejoice i. it gives me power to continue. thank you very much. >> and we will be right back. onf you, with nothing artificial. it has nothing to hide. but you can wrap it in a tortilla anyway.
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california voters approved proposition 7 last week. it would allow the state to stay in daylight savorinings time. what company anouned it intends to permanently scrap daylight savorings time? european union, china or south america? stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. they say macron and quest to reinvent a nation. i read this preparing for my interview last week. this is the best book on him and
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his efrlt to make frans great again. now for the last look. take a look at these paintings. they were commissioned by an artificial intelligence company with a focus on computer vision. one of the six was not painted bay human being. was interested in how close ia could come to replicating the if you picked the last you were correct. there is cloud paint are is it takes a picture and using things like itch it is not simply
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preplanned brush strokes like a 3d planter would. it works isz work helping. so is hrt art? with the answer to my gps question is a. online survey ordered by the european parliment received 4.6 million responses with 84% of respondents in favor of ending the biannual clock clang. individual countries will have the choice of staying in time
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zones. state lawmakers and eventually congress will need to approve the switch. thanks for being part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. this is reliable sources. a look at the story behind the story, how the media really works, how the news gets made and how all of us can help make it better. jim akocosta is back to wor. a story you have to hear about a disturbing development in the philippines. one brave journalist. later how the deadly fire is being covered ton ground there. the editor of the local paper will join me live.
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