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close. evan perez joins us now with the latest. what else is in this court filing and what does it mean for manafort's plea deal? >> the plea deal still stands but the cooperation in which the government has encouraged the judge to show some leanancnienc that part of the deal is off. it says, quote, after signing the plea agreement manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the federal bureau of investigation and the special counsel's office on a variety of subject matters which constitute breaches of the agreement. what the special counsel's office is now saying, anderson, is that they want the judge to move towards sentencing. they say they're going to provide more information at a later date about the exact nature of the lies that paul manafort made as part of these lies that apparently he's been telling since he made his plea in september. >> did prosecutors indicate what they say manafort lied about? >> they did not indicate exactly

what he lied about, but, anderson, we know that our team there who sits outside of his special counsel's office has seen him show up there and spent hours nine times since his september plea agreement. we've also seen recently his lawyers show up for a couple of short meetings, which is perhaps an indication of the disagreement whidiagreement going on behind the scenes. we don't know what this means for the special counsel. this was an important person for the special counsel to have cooperating with this investigation. we don't know whether this hurts their investigation, we don't know whether what information they may have shared with paul manafort and his lawyers and if any of that information could be making its way to other people perhaps the president's legal team. all of these are big questions that are now really in front of us as a result of this extraordinary filing from the special counsel's office tonight. >> wow, evan perez, thanks very

much. joining me now is jeffrey toobin, david gergen, cnn legal analyst, john dean, also former federal prosecutor anne milgram. jeff, i don't know exactly how to phrase this question but how frigging stupid is this guy? >> very frigging stupid. to get a cooperation agreement and the chance for a lower sentence was very important to him especially since he's 70 years old. to throw that away, to throw that benefit away by continuing to lie to the special counsel's office is incredibly reckless and self-defeating. now, in the filing today manafort's lawyers said they disagree. >> he said there wasn't lying. >> there wasn't lying. but the fact that the mueller's office blew this agreement up in

this way suggests they must have a pretty good reason for thinking that he's lying. >> yon dean, if the conventional wisdom is, you know, true and the collusion portion of the investigation is nearing an end, why would manafort mess up a federal plea deal? he obviously had some experience with this, does this make sense to you? >> it makes absolutely no sense, anderson. in fact as alluded to earlier it's stupid. he's not going to get this opportunity again. it already appears he gave a lot of hour, nine meetings where he's obviously provided some things they could cooperate. he's sacrificed not only lessening his sentence potential but they're not going to get back the $15 million of forfeited property he'd already been forced to give up. so this is just dumb is what it is. >> you know, david, what's interesting to me about the lies whether paul manafort's lies in this case or the lies president trump often will tell is that

they're often dependent on success on everybody else being stupid. and they're all dependent on the idea that everybody else who hears them is stupid. clearly the mueller team is not stupid nor are the american people when they hear repeated lies from the president that are easily checked. i mean, i guess i just don't understand the kind of low level of lying that's just really bad lying. to get caught time and time again like paul manafort has is incredible. >> it is incredible. but i would argue there's perhaps another way to look at this, and that is paul manafort is not stupid. he may be reckless but he's not stupid. and i would assume if he's lying is because there's something very big he's trying to hide from the prosecutors. very big. we don't know what that is, we don't on the outside here.

but i would also assume while his chances are going to jail for a much longer time have definitely gone up, it's also possible that his chances of getting a pardon have also gone up if he's doing something to serve the interests of those around the president. and we don't know yet what all this is. i do think and jeffrey and john could help me with this because they know more about this, but i think there's a chance that in the next brief that the mueller files he may have to show more of his hand about why he thinks that manafort has been lying so recklessly. and if that's the case, we may have a better understanding what this is about. >> that's a fascinating idea. anne, do you think it's possible or likely that manafort was lying to protect himself or potentially others from something that hasn't been flushed out entirely or something he's hoping to protect the president from he's hoping

to get a pardon for? >> you know, it's really hard to tell, but it's absolutely possible. and i think it's worth noting that it is rare for cooperators to go south like this, but it does happen. and there are people who come in, say i'll tell you the whole truth, i'll cooperate completely and then they just can't bring themselves to do it. and it's clear manafort has spent a lot of time with the government. the government checks everything cooperators say. they're going to be fact checking left and right on everything, and it's clear to me they found something that they concretely believe to show he's lying and he's not coming off of it. it could be other crimes that were committed by himself or others. you know, it's really impossible to say. but what is interesting is that the defense is saying, no, he was telling you the truth when it's very clear that mueller's team is confident that he is lying. >> one view of this is that this is good news for donald trump because if -- you know, once he

pleaded guilty and cooperated, the goal is to get him to tell the truth and become a witness against other people. now he's useless as a witness because he's lied so much. now, an alternative view is that the mueller office has so much on everyone that they can tell whether someone's lying. but the fact is when you give someone a cooperation agreement, you're hoping they cooperate and they become a useful witness. manafort is now a useless witness. that's not good for mueller. >> john, i mean with a plea deal being breached is manafort obligated to testify against anyone else who may be charged by special counsel? is any cooperation now moved? >> he has breached the agreement according to the prosecutors, so it's no longer a viable agreement. and i suspect also, anderson, this is a setback for the prosecutors who were moving along and there was obviously some bit of evidence or multiple

amounts of evidence they knew he was not coming forth on that they have and they still need. so this is not helpful to the furthering of this investigation either. >> john dean, what do you think about the theory david gergen advanced, this, you know, is hoping to get a pardon down the road if it's protecting the president? >> that's very potential. i think he sort of waited for that up until the time he flipped, and he obviously has ability to communicate probably through his wife and others to send signals that he can only go so far. the prosecutors would probably monitor him very closely, so we don't know how this will go. david also mentioned we're going to learn more. we are in the sentencing document that's going to be filed very shortly. >> anne, would it be appropriate for manafort's attorneys or

people connected to manafort to have connections with people on the trump legal team or people connected to the president to try to pass along information or pass along some sort of message? >> i mean it's possible. what's more likely is that people from the trump team may have tried to communicate with manafort's lawyers or send messages to manafort. and mean, this is really hard for us to know at this point. i take the view that manafort had to plead guilty. he's gone through a long what was unquestionably a deep, expensive case to try in the eastern district of virginia. the evidence was strong against him, he's convicted, going into prison time facing another trial, this was a tougher case for him and also a more problematic case for the president and the administration. so i think he was going to plead guilty, what he was looking for was a break in the sentencing. and i tend to agree that now his only play that's possible to get that break is to get a pardon or

a commutation of his sentence. >> jeffrey, what are mueller's option for his team on this? >> well, it looks like they are simply going to throw the book at mueller. mueller is going to throw the book at manafort. they are going to say this guy lied to us, he committed crimes, we are giving him no break. he should be sentenced to the full sex tent of, you know, his multiple convictions and guilty pleas. that's their play with mueller -- i'm sorry, with manafort. the -- i think they don't have a lot of options in terms of using manafort against other people. i suppose -- >> because he's now unreliable. >> because he's now unreliable. they could in a further proceeding down the line even if manafort didn't want to cooperate, they could give him immunity since he already would have been sentenced to force him to testify again. but since they have said

repeatedly he's not reliable and a reliable -- >> maybe this is incredibly smart of him? >> no, because he's going to get a long sentence. oh, if he's playing for a pardon. obviously the pardon is the best -- >> he was going to get a long sentence anyway? >> well, not necessarily. the whole point of cooperating is to get a lower sentence. now he's even more in need of a pardon because he's obviously not going to get a low sentence. >> david gergen, i mean what would you see as the president's -- if you're the president is tonight a good night? david gergen? >> yes. i think if you're the president tonight is a good night in the sense of jeffrey and jonathan were talking about and that is manafort -- mueller was likely counting upon manafort as being a star witness. and now he doesn't have that. it's also possible that this

will stretch out the time. now, mueller may have to go back and double-check and he may have to get a whole new path for bringing whatever case he's going to bring forward. and this may extend the time, and now we've got whitaker at the justice department. who the hell knows what's going to happen the next few days or few weeks with all of this. i think it's one more reason why the mueller investigation ought to be protected by the congress because this has become so uncertain and so bizarre. >> john dean, it's like a three-dimensional future game of chess. is this something that you think paul manafort would have planned out long ago? >> it doesn't seem the way it fell that he planned it out. you've got to realize also, anderson, he's got ten more counts that were not -- there was a hung jury on that could still be brought by the prosecutor mueller against him.

so they could take him back into court again and give him more trial time, which would cost money and make it even more painful for him. so they have am options there. >> why would you think manafort's attorneys would be arguing no, no, no he hasn't gone back on his word at all? >> you know, they want the benefit of getting the cooperation agreement, which is -- manafort has been in by public reporting by ten or ten times he's prided a lot of information. they want him to get some benefit when it comes to sentencing, and i think they rightly know that the judge is not going to give them that benefit. and look the government actually does get to decide whether or not manafort has provided substantial assistance, and the government saying he's a liar is incredibly compelling but his lawyers want to push back and say, look, he has been cooperating. the only thing i'd say about manafort as we think about

mueller's team has been thinking and doing, they've cnn manafort -- i don't think he's been forthright in anything from day one. remember he was trying to reach witnesses and witnesses to say the story he wanted when the case was investigated. i would argue they've always had a pretty deep skepticism of him and were checking him carefully because of that skepticism. i think it would be a loss to have manafort not testify especially when you're looking at the president. manafort would have been close enough to have that information. >> does that mean they necessarily lie about everything? >> no. and there's often back and forth between prosecutors and cooperating witnesses. it is often the case that cooperators don't fully come clean when they start to cooperate, and prosecutors have to decide whether their lies are so serious that it merits tearing up the agreement.

obviously they thought it was serious enough to tear up the agreement. if i can just offer one way to disagree with myself that this is good news for donald trump, i still think it is basically good newsmanfort is not becoming a star witness. but if if i were trump i would be unnerved by the fact that mueller's office knows enough about the facts of this case to say you're lying. how do they know that? who told them? what documents do they have? >> that's a really good point. >> and david, it's also important to point out we don't know what the subject is that he's allegedly lying about. >> no, it's very important that we be cautious about this. it could be purely his own, you know, misdeeds and his own financial misdeeds, fraud or money laundering or the like which is what he was charged with. or it could be some aspect of the mueller case that we don't know about, or it could be he's

trying to protect someone very, very at the center of the government. and that may not be the president. it could be one of his -- it could be a job, a number of things. we have to be cautious, but this is bombshell. >> it certainly is. remarkable. david gergen, counselors dean and toobin, thank you very much. border patrol fired tear gas into mexico including in the areas where women and children were, we'll have a live report from there. and later what we and the voters in mississippi are learning about senator cindy hyde smith, allegations of racially tinged remarks, other controversial statements and could be implications on what is already a charged campaign. lore. savin' on this! savin' on this! savin' in here. rewarded!

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tijuana. a report which you'll see in a moment tells a more complicated story and accounts that chaos erupted, of course in addition to a larger controversy about the migrant caravan and sending active duty truths and untruths he told yesterday, saying the obama administration did the exact same thing, and in fact it did not not. family separation was at the time the exception and not the rule. mexico's foreign minister asked for an investigation of the tear gassing. more now from all of this from leyla santiago who joins us from tijuana. what are you learning from what was going on? >> reporter: a lot of folks are still trying to make sense of what happened. we are at a makeshift shelt, sort of an athletic mufilt turned shelter where many are still in tents waiting to see where they make their next move. city officials tell us there are about 5,000 people. the majority of them men here,

and this morning when we arrived we saw buses still arriving, still central american migrants making their way here to tijuana despite the clash at the border over the weekend. trying to escape the tear gas, protect her children, she forgot her phone was still recording. capturing her struggle to breathe and the screams from her daughter's fear, a day letter jessica who asked us not to use her last name knows these images will haunt her forever. she said she was holding her child pretty much like her child has fainted from the gas. she said those tears are for her child. her 7-year-old daughter

struggles to talk about what happened at the border. hundreds of migrants, men, women and children marched in unity from this makeshift shelter to the border sunday. many told us therapy caught off-guard when tear gas was released by customs and border protection on the u.s. side of the fence. according to cbp, the migrants were the first to throw things hitting four agents in the u.s. with rocks and that's why they responded with tear gas, something the migrants deny. >> i cannot agree on the use of force, not even that type of force. that is tear gas or rubber bullets. i cannot be -- i cannot agree on any of those actions. >> reporter: for its part mexico says it will not tolerate disorderly conduct. mexican immigration officials took about 100 people into custody and plans to deport them. the clash is making some

reconsider plans. she says she's thinking about staying in mexico, but she can't go back to honduras because she says if she goes back to honduras, they'll kill her. that's the threat she faces. just outside the sports center turned shelter we watched as about 20 hondurans boarded this bus for voluntary deportation. but this is small portion of the group here. city officials say more than 5,000 are being housed at this shelter and after this clash at the border the federal police in mexico have made their presence known as u.s. military helicopters constantly flyover what has become the latest home of the caravan. >> leyla, what's next in the legal process? i mean, how long before people have an opportunity to actually apply for asylum if they're going to have that opportunity? >> reporter: right. of those who plan to seek asylum at the port of the san ysidro

port of entry here in tijuana, you're looking at weeks, anderson, before this caravan even arrived and there were already more than 1,600 migrants on this sort of unofficial waiting list just to get into the port of san ysidro. officials tell me the capacity there is about 300. so take a capacity of 300, 1,600 already waiting for their chance to just go to the port and say i want to seek asylum. at this, 5,000 and you're looking at weeks, possibly months before they get to utter those words. >> leyla santiago, thanks very much. i want to get more perspective now joining us now the former director of citizenship and immigration service. leon, in terms of protocol, using tear gas on people in which there were women and young children, was that an appropriate response? >> yeah, i wouldn't be the one to judge that.

that's a law enforcement call that customs and border protection had to make. there was already going to be an investigation before the mexican government requested it this evening. but, you know, i'd like to keep us away from the rights and wrongs of that law enforcement decision and talk about why we're here, which i think is really evidence of the failed policies of enforcement only as the way to address what is really a humanitarian crisis. >> well, i mean, so just in term of the asylum process, is that kind of a wait of weeks or months, is that a normal amount of time? how would it normally work in past years? because obviously they made the asylum process more difficult. >> certainly the way it's been working in past years is you would actually be able to state your claim for asylum very quickly after the time that either you were apprehended between ports of entry not at a

border station or you went to a border station and in fact made your claim of asylum. now you're waiting -- you're exposed to waiting much, much more than would have been the case frankly weeks ago. >> steve, i know you've been critical on some of the immigration policies of this administration and obviously suppor supportive of others. i think it's fair to say they're trying to make it as difficult as possible to actually seek asylum. is that appropriate? >> i think it is appropriate, and anderson, the reason i say that this isn't really about asylum. let's be honest about this. the distance from haonduras, fo example, to san diego is about 3,000 miles. they're crossing the gigantic country of mexico which offered them asylum plus jobs and they said no. so what does that tell us? this isn't because they're fleeing for their lives and they just want safety but they're

economic migrants who want to come to the united states. i don't begrudge them wanting to come here, i'd want to come here, too. but it's not about asylum and in terms of becoming legal immigrants to the united states they need to get in line and do it by the process by which the united states very rightfully demands of all immigrants and enter this country the way my father did, the way so many of our fathers and grandfathers did. we cannot let people game the system by claiming asylum and that's not legitimate. >> with all due respect the administration has been doing everything it can to actually eliminate the line, to have there be no line for people who were coming from a country with the highest homicide rate on the planet, with completely broken institutions of public safety. and what they have been on a campaign of doing is eliminating every possibility for those people to get in line and seek legal relief in the united states to actually request asylum as our laws and

international conventions provide. >> steve, what about that? i mean if somebody is the victim of domestic violence, if somebody is in fear of their life because of gangs who control their neighborhood and the failure of local law enforcement, shouldn't they -- should they be able to apply for asylum in the united states? because traditionally those things would be considered. >> listen, i think they absolutely should be considered, and i also think people are gaming this system. however, the united states has always been a refuge -- >> those things are no longer under this administration considered things that are worthy of asylum, no? >> well, look, coming from a crummy place, quite honestly, that is not reason for asylum. if you are being persecuted because of some classification, your race, your religious beliefs, your gender.

if you're truly being persecuted for those reasons those are legitimate reasons for asylum in the united states. that process does not include 1,000 people waving a foreign flag and throwing projectiles, throwing rocks at our borders and customs protection agents, the majority of whom who are hispanics. it's instead getting patiently in line just as legal immigrants have to do in many cases waiting, many, many years to come to this country legally. an open border isn't bad for us but also bad for lot of these would be migrants because they're often sold a false bill of goods they will easily get into the united states and what they often encounter is a whole lot of misery frankly trying. >> what do you say to steve who's saying persecution is one thing but clearly according to the administration domestic violence, if you're suffering from domestic violence, if

you're worried about your child being taken into a gang or your kid has been threatened by a gang, that's no longer reason to get asylum. >> i mean, it has long been the case that if you are victimized in a way by private violence in a way that was recognized under the refuge and asylum laws in law enforcement and public safety officials in your country either were unable or unwilling to protect you, for decades that has been recognized as a claim for asylum. what we're doing is taking a humanitarian crisis that has very clear law enforcement ramifications. we can't deny those ramifications and instead treating it as a national security issue that has no humanitarian dimension. what we saw yesterday, and there's no justification for violence. there's no justification for rock throwing or charging the border, but what we saw yesterday is the predictable

consequence of a policy that is giving people no possibility of relief from what is an intolerable situation. >> i appreciate both of you being with us. coming up next, the president's promises about keeping jobs in ohio, today's news about big general motors job cuts in ohio and elsewhere and big breaking news what the president said about jobs this evening. we'll also talk to ohio governor john kasie and get his takes on this and other things when "360" continues.

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today! right now the economy appears strong which made the news today general motors is closing five plants including four in this country, a potentially soarious blow. 14,000 jobs will be affected either by cuts or assignment, many in ohio, and as you know both as a candidate and later in office president trump has had a lot to say about the pivotal state. >> your jobs are economic back, believe me. your jobs are coming back. and ohio sees it just about better than anybody because you see the cars companies back, the car companies expanding, other companies are coming back. remember they were all leaving. now they're all coming back, folks. they're all coming back. but what we've done in less than

two years no president or administration in his first two years has done anywhere what this administration has done. and they know it. and they know it. >> well, today the president reacted by saying he was unhappy with the gm news but he expects the company to bring new business into ohio in the near future. what's strange is just a few hours later at a rally in mississippi he made news by saying this. >> the previous administration, they said manufacturing's never coming back, it's gone. you need a magic wand. well, we found the magic wand and that's actually -- that's actually going to be increasing by a lot in the next short while because we have a lot of companies moving in. >> interesting thing to say after 14,000 people and their jobs are in jeopardy. i'm going to talk now with ohio governor and former presidential candidate john kasich.

>> i don't think so, anderson. look, i mean the problem we have with general motors is there's now a car there that has very thin profit margins. people aren't driving these small cars, but when you add to that the question of tariffs, it means those profit margins are even shrinking even more and more. so what we've seen in lordes town is a car that's not selling and there's no magic way to bring it back. what i hope can happen is we can work with general motors and see if there's perhaps another car we can put in there. we went through this with chrysler and we have long negotiations and as a result of a it, more employees. there was a gm plant that shut-in dayton and they brought a company i think it's 2,400 workers now with salaries that were greater than what they were doing in the old auto plant. there's two ways to look at

this. one is first of all let's knock the tariff because they make the cost of those cars higher and companies either have to eat them or they pass them onto consumers who can't afford to have higher prices on it. and if that doesn't work, if we can't get a better car in there then we have to think about can we repurpose the plan. but it's a sad story for an iconic plant in a very special part of ohio. but you have to work with companies, and this was the case in my opinion where they looked at it and the numbers didn't add up, and it wasn't just in ohio but around the country. >> the president said he told the ceo of gm that she better reopen the company soon. is that how it works? >> wait a minute, i think the president challenged harley davidson and got into it and argue would them and they're now building plants overseas. and there was the famous case

going to indianapolis trying to save that plant, and we find out the promises were not made. you don't get this down by sort of bluster. this is hard work, and i think the president probably knows that, but you've got to be careful with your rhetoric. one thing you don't want to deal with people in that part of ohio or any part of the country is to make a promise to them you can't keep. false hope leads to big problems, it leads to damaged dreams. don't false hope. maybe there can be something that can be worked out with gm, mab we can repurpose the plan. but as i talk to the vindicator today i said, look, i'm not going to promise you false things. i can't promise this thing is all going to work out, but we're going to do our level best. >> i'm not going to ask you the question everyone always asks you now these days which are you going to be running for president or against president trump in a republican primary --

>> you just asked me. >> i'm not asking you, but just in a general sense do you know or do you think it is known at this point how a republican would run against president trump. i mean, obviously if you were one of them, each one was eliminated by him. what's been learned? >> well, i think, anderson, the bottom line is we have to look at the policy and the tone. and i think you have a poll that's just come out today that shows i think over 60% of the public wants a change. i mean some people would say his approval is really low. i look at it in another way. i say there's a vast majority of americans who have said there's enough of this. yeah, i mean, so that shows you people are not happy. now, i think within the republican party he's got high approval but that party has shrunk in numbers.

you have to see what happens. what happens with his fortunes? how does he do? but i also talk about the fact that if the democrats, we're not sure what they're going to do, they'll bring out more people on the stage than we had that ran the last time. if you have donald trump over here on the far right and elizabeth warren on the far left, you have a vast ocean of people. and people say, well, third parties never work. this is the 21st century, anderson. we just landed a vehicle on mars today. i mean, all kinds of things are possible. and what is the status quo should be thrown out, and we need to look at different ways. so i'm a republican. i seriously look at this. i'm not sure what is going to happen, what i'm going to do, but i want to help my country, i want to have a good message to help my country. maybe it's running for office, maybe it's not, but i am seriously looking into this. in fact, i had some large conversations today. i talked with family, with friends, what can john kasich do to help and that's what we can

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on the eve of tomorrow's senate runoff election in mississippi they discovered two nooses at the state capitol. they were hanging for a tree, this as president trump made 11th hour campaign speeches in mississippi to support incumbent senator hyde-smith. >> so we're here tonight to support a truly incredible leader. she's great on tax cuts, tough on it border. she loves our military. she loves our vets. and she always supports our tremendous judicial nominees. >> reporter: help from president trump couldn't come soon enough for senator cindy hyde-smith after a string of damaging disclosures. she supported at least two efforts to elevate mississippi's confederate history. cnn's investigative team found she once cosponsored a resolution that appeared to

glorify the confederate cause, and according to "the washington post," she backed a resolution in 2001 to rename a mississippi highway after the president of the confederacy. this is 2014 images showing hide--smith posing in a confederate hat and holding a rifle. during her campaign she remarked she'd attend a public hanging if invited by a supporter and seemingly endorsed voter suppression in what he called a liberal -- she offered an apology for the hanging remark. >> for anyone that was offended by my comments i certainly apologized. >> reporter: but quickly added -- >> i recognize this comment was twisted and it was turned into a weapon to be used against me. >> reporter: it hasn't gone over well in a state that has a

history of both especially when her democratic opponent mike espy is african-american. >> i heard in washington they're calling her the hanging senator. >> reporter: her opponent is using all of this to his advantage in television ads. >> we're better than that and >> reporter: companies have requested refunds for the contributions to her campaign. a move he suggests says she's bad for business. >> so embarrassing, she would be a disaster for mississippi. >> reporter: if he wins, he would become mississippi's first african-american senator since the end of the civil war. >> i'm african-american. i'm proud of it. >> reporter: she is hopeful a visit from president donald trump is a welcomed distraction as she struggles to put a series of racially charged controversies behind her. >> she's a tremendous woman. she's a shame she has to go through this. >> what's the polling showing ahead of tomorrow's runoff?

>> reporter: there hasn't been a lot of polling. that's one of the surprising things. usually people are accustom to hearing polls almost every other day. in this particular runoff, there haven't been that many because it's considered to be very unusual and then on top of that, there's no baseline when you have a special election like this for pollsters to go back against. then they had that incredible all stop which was called thanksgiving. that hardly ever happens where both campaigns literally shut down and then have to start up again. by the way, mike espy is attending a get out the vote gospel explosion tonight. very different from the way that cindy is spending her last night on the campaign trail. she's putting her faith in a president. tomorrow it's going to all come down to turning out the vote. both sides say they need everyone at the polls. anderson? >> martin savidge, thanks very much. check in with chris.

for cuomo "prime time". remember when we went to the gospel explosion? >> we never did. i would be happy to. >> get out. a little change of pace. we have been studying your show. you are right to seize on what happened with manafort. it's important. we will talk about why with a couple of seasoned lawyers, somebody who did this type of work on the government side and former white house counsel to president trump in terms of what this could mean and then extending this to what we are learning about one of roger stone's friends and what is who is refusing a deal and why. being assumed by mueller's reports. the big guest is the head of customs border patrol. the largest law enforcement agency in the country. 60,000 people. one person in charge. there's one person in charge, the best idea of what's happening on the border. we will test him. >> look forward to that. thanks very much. eight minutes from now. ahead, the white house trying to bury a climate report

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don't worry, the president says he is on it. >> i have seen it. i have read some of it. it's fine. >> it's fine. i read some of it. there's no way to know if the president did read some of it, some of the more than 1,600 pages. it outlines what is not fine. the president was asked about the finding that the economic impact could be devastating. >> i don't believe it. no, no. i don't believe it. here is the other thing. you are going to have to have china and japan and all of asia and all of these other countries -- it addresses our country. right now we're at the cleanest we have ever been. it's very important to me. if we're clean but every other place on earth is dirty, that's not so good. i want clean air. i want clean water, very important. >> in the face of a report from 13 agencies within the trump

administration, 1,000 people, including 300 leading scientists -- this is just a continuation of the president's policy on climate change -- namely deny it exists and just talk vaguely about clean air and water. he has been doing that for years, from january 2014, i quote, give me clean, beautiful and healthy air. not the same global change bs. i'm tired of hearing this nonsense. this was from december 2015. >> obama is talking about all of this with the global warming. a lot of it is a hoax. it's a hoax. it's a money making industry. a lot of it. i want clean air and i want clean water. that's my -- i want clean, clean, clean, crystal water. >> clean, crystal water. what happens when someone points out to the president that he is denying science? spoiler alert. he denies it. >> i'm not denying climate change.

we are talking about -- >> that's denying it. >> they say we had hurricanes that were worse than what we just had with michael. >> who says that? >> people say. people say that -- >> what about the scientists who say it's worse than ever? >> you have to show me the scientists. they have a very big political agenda. >> one is in his own administration. he doesn't trust scientists. how about his own eyes? a week and a half ago he went to see some of the destruction from deadly wildfires in california. >> does it change your opinion on climate change, mr. president? >> no, no. i have a strong opinion. i want great climate. we're going to have that and we're going to have forests that are very safe. >> he wants great climate. unclear what, if anything, the president wants to do about it. i'm not sure he has an understanding of the issues.