abhorrent. >> and yesterday we reported on increasing anti-semitic incidents here in the u.s. and now in germany. we'll continue to follow this. thank you very much. and be sure to join us tomorrow as we continue our special series on the rise of hate here in the united states and around the world. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next national bolton says h didn't listen to the tape of the "washington post" journalist being murdered because he doesn't speak arabic. and in a stunning interview tonight, the president trump blaming the fed for general motors. and polls about to close in the racially charged runoff election in mississippi. can democrats pull off an upset? let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, hear no evil

see no evil. president trump's national security adviser mocking evidence of the murder of jamal khashoggi. >> no, i haven't listened to it. and i guess i should ask you why you think i should. what do you think i'll learn from it? >> you might have access to that sort of intelligence. >> how many in this room speak arabic? >> can you listen to it with an interpreter? >> if they were speaking re -- korean, i wouldn't learn anything more either. i can read a transcript. i'm just trying to make the point that everybody who says why don't you listen to the tape, unless you speak arabic, what are you going to get from it? >> okay. the nation's top security adviser does not want to listen to the tape because he doesn't speak arabic. right? well, he is not alone in making a conclusion without listening to the tape. >> we have the tape. i don't want to hear the tape.

no reason for me to hear the tape. but i've been fully -- >> why don't you want to hear it, sir? >> because it is a suffering tape. >> a suffering tape. a tape that if he had listened to it might make this conclusion pretty close to impossible to stomach. >> we are with saudi arabia. we are staying with saudi arabia. >> because one person who has heard the tape is the director of the cia, the case officer on the investigation. she listened to the tape. it was her agency 's conclusion that the saudi crown prince personally directed the murder of an american recent and journalist jamal khashoggi. and now we are learning tonight haspel will not be attending the hearing in front of the full senate tomorrow. just hours before the briefing she has requested to attend and the top democrat saying it is confirmed she will not appear to brief lawmakers on the cia 's conclusion. a conclusion of course that the president of the united states has made it clear he does not back. >> we were told that she would

not be attending the briefing for members of congress. her absence is obvious and it is noted and it raises a serious question as to whether this administration is giving us the whole truth. >> now, cnn's jim acosta is reporting that the white house is determined to avoid someone from u.s. intelligence from briefing the senate on the murder. the white house of course denies blocking haspel from the briefing, but the reality is the fact is the fact, she's not going to be there tomorrow. to be clear it is the cia led by gina haspel that has assessed that the crown prince personally ordered khashoggi's killing. she should be there. so who will be at tomorrow's hearing instead? for one, the secretary of state mike pompeo, a man who returned from turkey and trump explicitly said has not heard the tape. you will remember pompeo was smiles during his recent meeting with the crown prince, that happened after khashoggi's murder. it is also pompeo's state

department that refused to point the finger at mbs claiming there hasn't been a conclusion reached on who is responsible for khashoggi's killing. like bolton, pompeo thus far has simply echoed the boss. >> the cia has looked at it, studied it a lot, they have november defini nothing definitive. the fact is maybe he did, maybe he didn't. >> and pamela, you are learning new information tonight about why the administration is saying their version as to why haspel will not be at the briefing tomorrow. >> reporter: that's right, i spoke to a u.s. official who says and confirms that the cia director will not be at this hearing tomorrow that will be attended by the defense secretary mattis as well as mike pompeo the secretary of state. gina haspel will notably not be there. and this official says one of the reasons is because it is a policy oriented hearing ahead of

the vote by the senators on whether there should be military aid given to the saudis in the war in yemen. of course we've heard from senators on both sides of the aisle who have been calling for haspel to brief them on what has happened with the khashoggi killing and the assessment that the crown prince directed the murder of jamal khashoggi. but despite those calls, biare told has pep will not be there and in part this official saying because it is focused more on policy matters. now, john bolton was asked about this today and whether the white house blocked haspel from coming to brief senators. and he says that is simply not true. and as you pointed out, he was also asked whether he heard the tape of the killing of jamal khashoggi and he was pretty combative in his response to reporters dismissing the idea that he would learn anything from the tape and saying that he doesn't speak arabic. and he was asked, well, can't you just have a translator

listen to it with you. and he said i can learn just as much from a transcript. he also talked about whether the president will meet face-to-face with the crown prince at the g-20. he said that there is no bilateral meeting scheduled. but sarah sanders the press secretary said there is a chance that the president could run into the crown prince while he is there. so of course that is something that reporters will be looking out for. >> all right. pamela, thank you very much. i want to go now to sherrod brown who says that he is seriously thinking about a run for president in 2020. i appreciate your time tonight. john bolton as you heard very combative, he says he didn't listen to the tape of the murder of jamal khashoggi. he says he was -- he was combative with reporters. he says what do you think i'll learn from it. continuing to say unless you speak arabic, what will you get from it. do you agree with him? >> this is just a bad movie. you have the president of the united states refusing to listen to this tape.

you have the president of the united states getting a report from his intelligence officials who put the blame at the crown prince's feet. you have the president of the united states disbelieving his own intelligence officials. you have a closed intelligence believing in the senate tomorrow where the cia director apparently won't show up at the behest -- because the president told her not to even though senators in both parties want her there. and then you have john bolton refusing to listen to a tape because he doesn't speak arabic. he is a high official in the white house. she want more -- she want more information, not less. so the arrogance and the president throwing in with the world's dictators. the only people he doesn't criticize -- he criticized his own attorney general, his senators in his own parties, calls immigrants names. but he is nice to putin and

duterte, he is nice to the crown prince and never criticizes them. it is just puzzling or worse. >> and cia director gina haspel of course has heard the tape and she is the case officer on the assessment from the cia that the crown prince directly ordered this murder. look, we understand she won't be at the hearing tomorrow. they say it is a policy oriented hearing. they will be talking about yemen and her views are not relevant. that is the white house's excuse. your response to that. >> when the senate -- both parties in the senate or the house are sponsoring a briefing for senators that is classified and the leaders in both parties and the committee want the director of the cia, the cia should show up unless there is something she absolutely has to do and that is not the case here. the president doesn't want her there because he knows that she will contradict his position on this. he will reaffirm -- i think there is little question that she will reaffirm that the crown

prince was behind this and ordered the murder of mr. khashoggi. >> unless she is saying her own assessment is wrong and her career rests upon that. >> her assessment of course is not wrong. the president's attacks on the media, attacks on your profession, the president's attacks on his own officials, the president's attacks on the military, the president's attacks on law enforcement in my state or around the country, the president's attacks on his own government many of whom he appointed are just -- they are puzzling or worse. what is wrong with this bad movie. and i want more information, not less. that is why you go to these briefing. i don't want to just hear the politicians, former congressman now the secretary of state. i'll listen to him of course. but i want the intelligence and i want to come from -- >> are you going to ask to listen to that tape as well? >> i assume a number of us will

ask for that tape at this briefing. i don't know how this briefing will play out. it is usually the members of the committee get to ask the first questions. that is not clear what will happen. i assume a number of us will ask for that. >> so the president you heard there is a question of whether he will meet with the crown prince. his response to the "washington post" is a bit different, he said, quote, it is not scheduled but i certainly would. is that what you want to hear, he is open to it? >> i'm -- i want to see a different behavior here. i remember his response with putin. i mean, i want him to talk to everybody, but i see him, you know -- he is uncomfortable with the small d democrats in europe, the people legitimately elected. but he seems so comfortable with the thugs running russia and running saudi arabia and running the philippines and running turkey and running hungary. those are the people that he is comfortable with.

that is why so many people are uncomfortable with this president now con dunlducting o national security. >> i want to ask you about general motors and the mass layoffs. the president tweeted that he was very disappointed with general motors. nothing being closed in mexico and china. the u.s. saved jen not togenera and this is the thanks we're getting? we're looking to -- do you think that is the right response? >> i look for a better response. and that is this. the president promised in youngstown and i believe in warren, michigan that no plants would shut down. he went to youngstown again last july and he said don't sell your homes, we're going to see companies coming back from overseas. but then what the president did is betrayed these workers when he pushed through a bill in

congress that gives a tax break to these companies that outsource jobs. gm in youngstown pays a 21% tax rate. gm in mexico pay as 1s a 10.5% rate. so the president is saying you get a 50% off coupon on your taxes. >> so you are for the corporate tax cut? >> no, no, i didn't say is that. i'm saying that the 21% that they pay in the united statesis. i'm saying that the 21% that they pay in the united statess . i'm saying that the 21% that they pay in the united states t. i'm saying that the 21% that they pay in the united states but the president cut their taxes in half if they might have overseas. so the president needs to fix that. and this sort of phony populism is dividing people in order to distracts from the work he is not doing to keep these plants in the united states. the american jobs act would flip the incentives so americans who buy cars made in the u.s. would get the tax break. you don't give the 50% off coupon to companies that move overseas. that is what the president did.

>> so quickly before we go, his comment today is that you're to blame. he says i love ohio and i told them you're playing with the wrong person. sorry, this is an sberp view wi interview with the "wall street journal." he says ohio wasn't represented by their democrat senator sherrod brown. >> i asked the president to intervene in gm. he didn't know about the playoffs that had already happened. i asked him to talk to mary barra. he did none of that. instead he gave a huge tax cut. i understand how this happens. these companies lobby congress and lobby the president to get more tax cuts. he followed what they asked him to do. and this 50% off coupon is bad economics and is immoral and the president needs to fix it. >> senator, i appreciate your time. and next, paul manafort fighting back against a damning report

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. new tonight former trump campaign chairman paul manafort firing back against a report that he secretly met with wikileaks founder julian as sanction multiple times in london. one of those meetings occurred in the same month that manafort joined the trump campaign. let's me go through the time line for you. "the guardian" reports that they met three times. 2013, 2015 and around march 2016. now, that is a crucial date because trump hired manafort on march 28 to lead his delegate fight. and nearly four months to the day after, trump pleaded with russia to help find hillary clinton's missing e-mails. >> russia, if you are listening, i hope you are able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.

>> and it was at about that time that russian hackers began to target clinton's accounts. fast forward to october 7, the day the infamous trump "access hollywood" tape is released. within an hour wikileaks starts to release the stolen e-mails of john podesta and trump couldn't help himself heaping glowing praise on wikileaks. >> this just came out. wikileaks, i love wikileaks. this tells you the inner heart. you got to read it. getting off the plane, they were just announcing new wikileaks and i wanted to say there, but i didn't want to keep you waiting. >> manafort and wikileaks strongly deny the report. manafort saying in part the story is totally false. i've never met julgiassange or e

working with him. "outfront" now, patrick healy and julia kian and also harry sandig. bottom line, if the reporting is true, and it is very strenuously denied, but if true, how big of a deal is it? >> it would be a very big deal because at some point the coincidences of the timing that you just talked about in the intro become too to just write-off as a coincidence. and if in fact wikileaks is taking steps trying to help the trump campaign, releasing only e-mails that would hurt the democrat's nominee hillary clinton, and you have meetings between manafort and the head of wikileaks, it certainly looks like a lot like a conspiracy. >> it certainly does. almost defy belief to think that if it all did happen, again, if,

that he wouldn't have told candidate trump. >> and remember at the time it was very strange for a lot of political reporters that donald trump was hiring paul man for the. he was a figure from the past in terms of republican politics. and a lot of us were wondering what is manafort bringing to the campaign, why would donald trump bring paul manafort. he was looking for some alternative to cory lewandowski, but manafort came in and we know through the spring and summer the trump campaign released open to overtures from russians offering as we know in the trump tower meeting some kind of dirt on hillary clinton. so there are a number of things along the way that draw again president trump into these kind of really the dark arts of political campaigning. hacks and leaks and he spent the entire fall championing wikileaks for what it was doing even though you could argue this was a hack of a major

presidential candidate and yet he was going on and on about what a great thing it was. >> and again and again. it is a public record at this point. but how much do you think this all could play into bob mueller's investigation? and i take it into consideration that he denies it, but it is a day after mueller says that he has been repeatedly lying after he agreed to a plea deal although he was not specific as to lying about what. >> right. so remember manafort as well as the entire trump campaign began this whole adventure with we never met or did anything with the russians. so the protests of how dare you accuse me of there are sort -- they fall on deaf ears in my case. and also remember in that rejection in what manafort said today, he said i have nothing to do with anyone who had anything to do with julian assange. that is false because we know roger stone and his associate corsi were in discussions with wikileaks and julian assange.

so "the guardian" piece a lot of us are saying if it is true and the reason why is because britain is a highly surveillance state, presumably some foreign intelligence agencies would have seen manafort go into the ecuadorian embassy. but if it is true, then this is -- i wouldn't call it all smoking guns anymore, i would call it all connective tissue. we have enough smoking guns. these are the pieces that are drawing closer around trump and then of course the trump family. >> and as julia points out, he said no contact with anybody and that is patently false. roger stone. and we've obtained a draft court filing from mueller's office related to roger stone which basically shows that he really, really pushed to get documents directly from wikileaks that would help the trump campaign. what does that mean? >> i think that story may be as big as "the guardian" story

because it comes from what sounds like a mueller document probably provided to corsi, probably leaking from someone on that side of things. and indicating that mueller has evidence that roger stone, who although not part of the trump campaign, has been sort of a trump associate and a republican operative. >> certainly in the inner circle on some level and of course has known manafort for a long time. the ties are everywhere. >> so the fact that stone and corsi were then contriving to make up a story to protect stone from the investigation, you know, why all these coincidences like we said. and now why all the lying about the coincidences. if there is a simple straightforward story, if these are the unluckiest people in the world, why wouldn't they just tell the truth and straighten it all out. >> and supposedly corsi helping stone get this information, that is what the charges are.

one of the e-mails was in august of 2016. corsi writes word is friend in embassy plans two more dumps, one shortly after i'm back, second in october, impact planned to be very damaging. and we know that there were releases around that time, john podesta's e-mails among them. and it certainly to your point looks like more than just random things at this point. >> oh, yeah. and you can't even keep a str straight face and believe corsi somehow got lucky, oh, just random luck that wikileaks put this stuff out. august 2 -- a little bit more on that e-mail. at the end of that part of the e-ma e-mail, choorsi says that they will talk about hillary clinton's health, bill's health, the clinton foundation. all of that proves to be true later on with the wikileaks

releases. so august 2, this e-mail that you said, august 3 cnn reported as have other news agencies roger stone mentioned that he had a conversation with donald trump. we're done with coincidences. this is the connective tissue part of the case and we'll see whether mueller put all the pieces together. >> and yet again you heard today in the "washington post" interview the president saying there was no collusion, kellyanne conway saying we've said that about a,0 thousand times. >> but the reality is that roger stone and corsi and assange and wikileaks were figures that president was privileging over and over again through the summer fall. and that the release of the clinton hacked e-mails were so essential to changing the narrative back in october

when -- >> and whenever that video came out and all of a sudden the e-mails came out. >> but these are close figures to donald trump. and that is how you build a collusion indication. >> all right. thank you all very much. next, president trump in a new and wide ranging interview talking climate change, why he says people of high intelligence levels like himself are not believers. also breaking news out of mississippi, we are minutes away from polls closing there. a hugely controversial runoff for a crucial senate seat tonight. whenshe was pregnant,ter failed, in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do.

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president trump is speaking out with the "washington post" tonight, among the headlinehead the president saying one of the problems that people like myself with high levels of intelligence, we're not necessarily such believers as to whether or not manmade and the effects are there, i don't see it. and the president decided to blame the federal reserve for the general motors layoffs saying they made a mistake and my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else's brain can ever tell me. general motors of course was specific about what it was blaming and it included the tariffs. "outfront" now, one of the people that interviewed president trump. josh, pretty incredible here. you know, people of high intelligence don't believe and this is not a thing of faith

obviously. we're talking about climate change. and then general motors, the mass layoffs are the fed's fault. >> the president was pretty explicit about climate change. he went into a long rip about why he was skeptical. he said that he believed that maybe -- he's read articles that says it may freeze, it may get warmer. and he made clear to us that he does not believe in his government's report on that front that came out and said that it was a terrible threat to the united states, would hurt the economy, could wipe out parts of the country. he does not share those concerns. on the federal reserve, the president made pretty clear how displeased he is with the jerome powell chairman. he picked powell for the job, but he said i'm not pleased with even one little bit with his performance. he is frustrated about interest rates. he says powell is hurting the stock market, he is hurting the economy. he is to blame for general motors among others, that is seen by dubious by many, that

accusation. but it was a pretty specific rebuke of the fed chair. not normally something that you see. >> and it was pretty stunning. and in your article, you describe the interview as sometimes discordant. it was an interesting word. what exactly happened in that room? >> well, the president often goes on tangents or asides. a conversation about the killing of jamal khashoggi, the "washington post" colleague, can weed into an answer about the post blaming him for traffic jams. that's what he said in the interview. and an answer interest human rights can go into a riff about oil prices and how they are down because of him. a question about any number of topics, climate change can go into a long aside about forest fires and how you should sweep the floors. the president's train of thought is often all over the place. he speaks very discursively and

often bounces from topic to topic. so it makes for an interesting interview. we had about 20 minutes with him today. part of the time he talked off the record on a few occasions, but most of it was on the record. and there was a surprising amgt amount of news we felt like we could make because the president goes from one place to another. >> and you never know what you're going to get. discore dants seems kocordant st word. and now over to the author of trump economics and also comm and you are authorize of the common good. steve, let me start with you.ar good. steve, let me start with you. what the president said about jerome powell, so far i'm not everyone a little bit happy with my selection , but i'm telling you i think the fed is way off base. he says he is not blaming anybody, but he says it is his own guy. >> well, it is his own guy and

he believes he made a big mistake and frankly i'm in agreement with him on this. i think the fed is way too tight right now. >> interest rates are too high? >> i think some of the actions are -- i don't think it is any coincidence that the stock market turmoil that we've seen in the last couple months really started with the fed not just raising rates, but telling the american people that we'll raise them and raise them and raise them when there is no real reason to do it because there is no inflation. >> the stock market on any given day however, this started more than a couple months ago, we've had huge amounts of swings and some were due directly to the president trump's comments on things like chinese tariffs. >> but my point is the market has been steadily a downturn inside is the fed started raising those rates. and there is no inflation out there. i don't see why the fed is

taking the punch bowl away from the party as the economy is growing. >> bob, quick response and then i want to talk about something else. >> the response is that president should not be criticizing the fed. it doesn't matter -- steve moore may both agree about what the fed should or should not do. that is not the point. there are reasons why the white house and the president do not criticize the fed because that itself creates a lot of uncertainty and tumult in the markets. you you have to ha you have to have an independent fed. and if you look at that interview, and it is a disjointed interview, what you see is that donald trump does not like independent scientists, he didn't like the independent fed. he doesn't like an independent judiciary. he doesn't like anything that he can't control. and frankly that is very dangerous for this country. >> i will agree with one thing with the two of you on this, i think to say that the fed is responsible for closing down

this plant is a trech to say the lea least. >> that is nuts. but the trade wars that he has launched, that is really what is going on. that is the thing that is causing both gm and also the market to be really reactive. >> general motors mentioned -- you heard sherrod brown, he says that he talked to the president about that and the president chose to ignore it until now. that is his version. i want to ask you about the climate change comments. here is what the president said. one of the problems that lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence, but we're not necessarily such believers as to whether or not it is manmade and whether or not the effects that you are talking about are there. i don't see it. bob. >> well, if he didn't see it, that is worrisome because you have not only a huge consensus among scientists that there is

climate change and that humans have created it, but you also have somebody in the white house who is making decisions about the epa and about regulations and the paris accords who is basically saying i don't believe anything that i'm being told. now, he trusts his gut? i don't know about trump's gut. i don't want the future of this planet to depend on donald trump's gut frankly. >> steve, would you agree with that, you don't want the future of the planet to depend on donald trump's gut? >> look, what donald trump said today in the "washington post" is no different from what he said for the last three years. anybody who listened to what he said during the campaign, he was always a skeptic on manmade climate change. i happen to be with him on that. i'm a skepts tick. i skepts tick. i'm not saying the climate isn't changing, but i'm skeptical that the actions the government wants to take will do anything about it. >> i'm holding the nasa

assessment. they did just land that rover on mars. pretty smart group of people. they make it clear climate change is occurring and greenhouse gases emitted by humans are the primary driver. they are citing the scientific reports. >> and i made this point last night and i'll make it again, there has been many times when apocalyptic predictions, whether it was the population bomb, peak oil, running out of food, all of those -- you can tell me one apocalyptic claim made by the environmental movement that has been true? every one of them has been disproven. so there is -- >> i will give you a number of claims. the sea level is rising and also that we are going to be subjected to more extreme weather. that -- >> no, no, you are speculating. show me something that -- >> are wait wait are minut minu.

everybody knows this is happening. you can't deny what is in front of people's -- >> i looked at the data for the last hundred years in terms of things like -- you made this point last night. hurricanes are more common today. no, that simply isn't true. there is no trend line in more hurricanes. >> they are more violent and they are larger. and everybody knows it. that is what is so absurd about this conversation. you have a president of the united states saying that 13 agencies have reported to me, i don't believe them, a thousand employees, 300 scientists, i'm going to trust my gut instead? >> well, i think that the main point that trump has made, and i've talked to him about this, he believes that the actions that the climate change lobby wants to take like a major energy tax, shutting down our oil and gas and coal industries, would do so much severe damage to the american economy that we can't -- it would be

devastating. >> no, he has actually got out of the paris accord and he has stopped regulations, he reversed regulations. >> exactly. because he wants to produce american oil and gas and coal, not because he wants to put the american workers out of work. >> why is he lauding saudi arabia for lowering oil prices? a conversation for another time. thank you both. >> bottom line here -- >> we have to save it for another time. >> bottom line is money. >> exactly. >> next former fbi director james comey slamming the acting attorney general. >> he may not be the sharpest knife in our drawer, but he can see his future. >> was that necessary? plus breaking news, we're just moments away from polls closing in the mississippi runoff senate election. can republicans stop the blue wave? john king is standing by with the numbers. (chime) - [narrator] meet shark's newest robot vacuum. it powerfully cleans from floors to carpets, even pet hair, with ease, and now for cleaning surfaces

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breaking news. president trump's attorney says he should not rule out a pardon for paul manafort telling the "wall street journal," quote, it is my job as his private lawyer to tell him he should not everyone consider it now because it will be misunderstood. that doesn't mean you give away your presidential prerogative. manafort should get the same consideration as anyone else. this after bob mueller claims that manafort has lied repeatedly after agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors.

so he will get a deal and then went out and lied. well, manafort says not true, he is cooperating. "outfront" now, the man slated to become chairman of the house judiciary committee, jerry nadler of new york. i appreciate your time. and so rudy giuliani, hey, no talk of a pardon for paul man for the. i'm telling him not to do it. it will be misunderstood.man for the. i'm telling him not to do it. it will be misunderstood. is he dangling the idea or telling the president not to do it? >> i specific dangling it in part, but the president should understand that even damage lng pardon in front of a witness is close to obstruction of justice and would just fortify that charge against the president. because plan fo because manafort is a convicted liar, someone who is lying again now according to the special counsel. and someone whose lies -- or

whose telling the truth may implicate the president in collusion with the russians to try to rig the election. and any attempt to get him to change his testimony or not testify by dangling a pardon would be obstruction of justice. >> and the president of course has taken the opportunity whenever possible to express sympathy for manafort even after he was convicted. here he is. >> one of the reasons that i respect paul manafort so much is he went through that trial -- you know, they make up stories. people make up stories. i must tell you that paul manafort is a good man. i feel very badly for paul manafort. he happens to be a very good person and i think it is very sad what they have done to paul manafort. >> what is very sad is that the president's campaign was run by people who are now almost all convicted criminals. and by expressing great faith in someone who is anned a pl admit

felon. he pled guilty remember. and the president is not performing his job as chief law enforcement person in the country. and again, he should be very careful how he deals with paul manafort because of the possibility of obstruction of justice. >> i want to ask you about something he said in the interview with the "washington post." the president says he has no intention of stopping the mueller probe. he says in part the mueller investigation is what it is. the question has been asked about me for almost two years and he is still there. he wouldn't have to be, but he is still there, so i have no intention of doing anything. congressman, you've been adamant that there needs to be a formal bill to protect mueller. is it time to let the issue go? it has been two years and he hasn't done anything. take him at his word, he will leave him alone. >> well, first of all, he has done something. he fired attorney general sessions simply because -- and

he said so simply because he recused himself from the investigation, from supervising the investigation and he didn't protect the president. that is the president saying that. and he put in as attorney general whitaker who has no credentials for the job whose only qualification is that he has already pre-judged the issue. he said that there wasn't no russian collusion despite -- there was no russian interference in the election despite what all the intelligence agencies have said. so he has put someone in charge there who could very well interfere with the investigation in ways that we wouldn't know until later. whitaker could tell mueller don't indict this person, don't follow that line of inquiry, and we wouldn't know about it until the end of the investigation. >> so i want to ask you about whitaker, but first former fbi director jim comey, republicans on your committee have subpoenaed him to testify behind closed doors next week. it would be about hillary clinton, russia investigation,

e-mails. comey says fine but it has to be public. the current chairman of your committee last night told me that it would be wrong to do this in public. his comment was as director of the fbi, james comey never conducted an interview like that in public. and that's what you do when you are does he have a point? >> he is entirely wrong. that was a very abusive subpoena because comey has volunteered to testify in public. yes in a criminal investigation if you are a criminal prosecutor you might elect to do certain investigations -- certain interrogations privately, but not in a congressional investigation like this. the fact is that there is nothing to fear because comey has testified in public previously and has been shouting from the roof tops what he wants to say. there is no danger. >> speaking of shouting from the

roof tops, today he did just that. here is what he had to say about mr. whittaker. >> he may not be the sharpest knife in our drawer but he can see his future and knows if he acted in an extra legal way he would go down in history for the wrong reasons. >> do you support that kind of talk about someone from the former fbi director? >> i am not going to comment on that. the fact is that whittaker is there i believe illegally because his name was never submitted for confirmation. he has pre-judged the issue and volunteered to sabotage the investigation. he has no other visible qualifications for the job at all. >> some colleagues on the republican side say he has assured them he will not interfere with it. breaking news, we are moments away from polls closing

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off a miraculous victory here? >> everyone should go into the night -- cindy hyde smith, she should win this race. this is the map tonight. these are the candidates. let's go back three weeks. this is where we were on election night. the reason we have the runoff is because neither candidate in the race tonight cracked 50%. these were the top two candidates. the third place candidate, another republican, 41-16. you do the math. that is the state of mississippi. look at this blue. this is pretty impressive for mike espy. this is three weeks ago. for cindy hyde smith, we'll use the yellow here. let's come forward to the map today. let's look at the state population. as you noted, this race is broken down along racial lines particularly because many of the things cindy hyde smith has said

or done during the course of her career. the darker the purple, the higher the percentage of african-americans who live in these areas. this is where mike espy ran strong. he has to run stronger tonight not just getting 80%, 90% of the african-american vote, the numbers have to come out. you see it concentrated here. let's move to the other area. we circled cindy hyde smith. this is now the white population in the state of mississippi. the darker the purple the higher concentration of white voters. that is where the president went last night. the trump base has to turn out for her. most republicans think she will win. they said they needed the president to go in at the last minute because they were nervous. >> democrats won in alabama. they say why not in mississippi? there were allegations of pedophilia there. >> you had an even weaker

republican candidate. let's go back in time and turn these demographics off and look at the state of alabama. with an even weaker republican candidate, doug jones just cracked 50%. why can't the democrats do it again? that's not to say they can't do it in mississippi. alabama is a bit more urban. that's where democrats live in higher concentrations. it is a bit more suburban. you can find mississippi less urban, less suburban, more rural. doug jones won 30% of the white vote. can mike espy do it tonight? >> i want to go to our senior political analyst. mark, obviously john laying all of this out. president trump obviously beat hillary clinton by more than 17 percentage points in the state of mississippi. it should have been a sure bet for republicans. what does it say to you that we are even talking about it tonight? >> we are really seeing the

republican party really lost in the wilderness right now. they don't know who the leader is. not everyone is behind donald trump. it was interesting that donald trump decided to put his reputation on the line and go into mississippi. i don't think he did that without basically knowing that his candidate was going to win. he did not want -- >> the map that john just showed would indicate she would have won anyway. >> he will take credit for it. it does say this. if you look at mississippi with an african-american candidate that is not running as a traditional urban african-american candidate in mike espy, if you look at andrew gillam in florida or georgia you talking about a changing south. you are talking that within the next couple of decades the south will be a lot different politically than it is now. >> does the margin matter? say she wins put it is close, does that matter? >> it does because of this. the last election was two weeks

ago. thanksgiving was last week. it will show democratic enthusiasm can continue on two weeks after the regular election. >> two weeks i guess is the start. thank you so very much. thanks to all of you. we will see you tomorrow. anderson starts now. good evening from washington. there is breaking election news. polls just closed in mississippi where cindy hyde smith is facing democratic under dog mike espy in a runoff. the race has gotten national attention for the history it could make tonight as well as the ugly historical chapter. if elected espy can become the state's first african-american senator since reconstruction. we'll bring you live updates as the totals start coming in. president trump has given a new interview. he has made news doing that.