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saving you hundreds of dollars a year. and ask how you get xfinity mobile included with your internet. plus, get $200 back when you when you buy a new smartphone. xfinity mobile. it's simple. easy. awesome. click, call or visit a store today. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. farewell to 41. president george h.w. bush is remembered for his remarkable life of service. >> america is never wholly herself unless she is engaged in high, moral principle. we, as a people, have such a purpose today. it is to make kinder the face of
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the nation and gentler the face of the world. my friends, we have work to do. >> president trump home this morning after a g20 summit dominated by trade talks, including a temporary truce with china that delays higher tariffs that were scheduled to kick in next month. and the president on edge and lashing out at his long-time attorney and fixer. michael cohen now says business dealings with russia stretched deep into the 2016 campaign. >> he is a weak person and what he's trying to do is get a reduced sentence. so he's lying bay project that everybody knew about. we were very open with it. he's lying very simply to get a reduced sentence. he's a weak person and not a very smart person. >> we will get to the current president's policy and legal challenges in a few moments, but we begin this sunday with the passing of george herbert walker bush and the country's plans to
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bid farewell to a president who calmly led the country he loved through one of history's most tumultuous times. i love you, too, the last words of the 41st president to the 43rd president. st. maarten's episcopal church in houston and then he will be laid to rest alongside his beloved wife, barbara, at the bush presidential library in texas. dana bash is in texas where president bush died peacefully. dana? >> reporter: that's right. he is being remembered here and around the world as a person who had such a singular impact on this country about and around global diplomacy. if you look at what happened yesterday, john, in argentina at
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the g20 summit, angela merkel, the german chancellor, who rarely speaks english in public, made a point of talking about his impact on her country. take a listen. >> in the white house with george bush and he is the father or one of the fathers of the reunification and we will never forget that. >> so there, of course, talking about his role at the end of the cold war when he was president and making sure that that continued to stay cold and not turn hot when the soviet union dissolved. then, of course, talking about the person and the kind of politician that george h.w. was. i'm sure you're seeing on social media, in statements in texts i'm getting with people who are battling very, very strongly against the other party right now calling george h.w. bush a gentleman, moral, humble,
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gentile. this is coming almost from all sides of the political spectrum. it is a reminder of those attributes being lost right now across the board. here in houston, if you look at those photos right there, we went to the gate outside his community and he is being remembered here as a pillar of this community. he and his late wife, barbara, have raised millions and millions of dollars and they really -- i was talking to some locals here. they were considered royalty here because of how much they gave back to this community here in houston. and we saw people from all walks of life coming up, showing their children, john, what that memorial looked like, that make itshi makeshift memorial. george h.w. bush was elected to represent houston in 1966. and that began the republican reign here in this district in
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texas. and guess what's going to happen in january. a democrat won and a democrat will now take over, elizabelizz fletcher. so the turning of the tide is sort of in keeping with the passing of this man. >> dana bash live in houston. thanks for the live report. john adams as both president and father of a president. he served just one term but they were four years of profound consequences, fall of the berlin wall, collapse of the soviet union, evicting saddam hussein from kuwait. and breaking his signature political promise. >> my opponent won't rule out raising taxes but i will and the congress will push me to raise taxes and i'll say no. and they'll push. and i'll say no. and they'll push again and i'll say to them, read my lips. no new taxes.
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>> i'm grateful this sunday to have a great group to share their reporting and their reflections. former cnn reporter frank cesno, abc correspondent ann compton. we do politics here so let's get right to it. he is the antithesis of what you see how you conduct yourselves personally from the current president we have. he was the guy, my first campaign in 1988, who was the ceo of a campaign that was savage. in his treatment of michael dukakis. >> people talk about his bipartisan achievements, that it's hard to imagine washington today, whether it's the americans with disabilities act or this budget deal to raise taxes, but he was also a pretty tough partisan as well and in
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dealing with the democratic congress, he issued over 40 vetoes of legislation and only one of those vetoes was overridden. george bush's whole presidency is sort of a paradox in that sense. so sure footed on the national stage but so struggling to connect on domestic policy and especially on the economy. >> and he was book ended between two giant personalities, right? ronald reagan, two-term president. bill clinton, two-term president, who were seen as, you know, resetting the political clock in the country. but he, i think, has been underestimated and under valued. and that's -- you know, i think about that clip that you just played. read my lips, no new taxes. well, that was -- it defined him. until he went into budget negotiations, realizing there were gigantic deficits and he
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started considering a tax increase. ultimately proved his demise. he was out jogging. i was in the press pool, negotiations were going on and i did one of those very undistinguished screaming questions, mr. president, what about taxes now, or whatever it was i said? as he jogged by, he said read my hips, no new taxes. so a sense of humor. but he was considering raising taxes. and he did. and that's why bill clinton, years later, had a balanced budget. but it contributed to his losing -- bush losing re-election. >> no doubt. >> the book ends are very, very important. george herbert walker bush was elected, kind of on the coattails of ronald reagan's years. and when he lost in 1992, he and bill clinton -- it was the old guard, a new, younger generation elected, but also in that race was h. ross perot. 19 million votes perot took.
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only 5 million votes difference between bill clinton and george bush and, you know, he never blamed perot outright but you know he carried that loss very, very -- >> in his heart, the state of ohio and others, he blamed on the perot factor. that's what's so fascinating about this. the history will record this. you can talk about the dukakis people didn't like the savagery of the campaign. he won 40 states, so you can argue about was it fair? it worked. they won 40 states. the guy at 84% after the gulf war in february 1991 loses in that three-way election. part of it was the times. part of it was -- again, the pa paradox of bush, understood the statistics as well as anybody but could not relate to real people about their pain in the economy. this is an iconic moment from one of the three-way debate. >> how has national debt
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personally affected each of your lives? and if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people. >> if the question -- maybe -- i don't want to get it wrong. are you suggesting that if somebody has means that the national debt doesn't affect them? i'm not sure i -- help me with the question and i'll try to answer it. >> in the same debate, he did this a couple of times. he looked at his watch. there's no twitter back then, no social media back then. the internet is a baby in these days. imagine if you did that in a debate today. here is a man we know from his notes, his charity, points of life, cares deeply about everybody. not a discriminate bone in his body but he had a hard time relating to foreclosed homes, people losing their house and health insurance. and he kept saying yeah but the economy is growing again. >> i remember walking out of the democratic convention in '88 and democrats were just sure that they were going to win when they
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were looking at those polls. it was almost like they couldn't lose and, of course, they did. i think bush is a transitional president in a lot of ways between conservative reagan and clinton, world war ii war hero. but what strikes me about the no new taxes read my lips, he knew the democrats were going to try to trap him. he actually articulated that idea, and that's exactly what happened. and it strikes me that somebody who knew what was coming -- the democrats knew they could weaken bush if they could get him to agree to that. and they went forward with it. and he sort of fell into a trap that caused him -- cost him the presiden presidency, that he knew was coming. >> knew he had to do it for the country even though it would cost him the presidency. karen, a wonderful obituary. read it.
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they do not like donald trump. jeb bush was his rival in the campaign. the president said this of 41. >> he was a very fine man. i met him on numerous occasions. he was a high-quality man who truly loved his family. one thing that came through loud and clear, very proud of his family and very much loved his family. so he is a terrific guy. he will be missed. he led a full life. and a very exemplary life i would say. >> total opposites, you could make the point, how trump conducts himself, they believe in total opposites. trump challenges every multilateral constitution. can you make the point he just rewrote nafta. he shakes nato, these institutions but the roots are deep enough that he has broken some glass but not the buildings yet. >> you see what happened during the bush presidency, and people forget what a scary time it was. >> yes, they do.
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>> the soviet union blows up, the eastern block is pulling away. the berlin wall is coming down. any of these things could have just put the world in a very, very dangerous place. they were all happening at once. and george herbert walker bush handled it so skillfully and with such finess that all of this ended up looking inevitable, as though it wasn't even hard. and it is so difficult to imagine, say, a donald trump in a situation like that. he would be poking every other -- >> i think there are two things to think about. that i think about anyway when i see the contrast and i think about the bush presidency. one is george h.w. bush believed in playing by the rules, whether he was on the tennis court or on the international stage. when saddam hussein invaded kuwait, he broke the rules and that aggression shall not stand. secondly he is an institutionalist. he invested in the institutions. he was of that generation,
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depression and world war ii, as we know, and those institutions transformed the world and was going to try to keep it a more peaceful place. and that idea, i think, of playing by the rules and investing in institutions motivated him throughout the presidency as he was navigating these incredible challenges from the fall of the wall and the implosion of the soviet union to kuwait and the big global coalition that he put together. >> and the man had an inner calm. >> the man also had a totally different cv coming into the job. >> right. >> he had been head of the cia, u.n. ambassador, the first ambassador in china. of course, he had been vice president. totally different resume. >> appreciate everybody. we'll continue the conversation about president bush a bit later in the program. up next, though, president trump breaks bread and trade tensions with his chinese counterpart. as we remember george h.w. bush the reason why before cake and ice cream on his birthdays he liked to skydive.
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president trump arrived back home early this morning from the g20 summit after agreeing to a temporary yet still cease fire trade. instead, those tariffs will remain at 10% during a new 90-day negotiating period. in return, china agreed to an immediate but unspecified increase in purchases of american goods with an emphasis on agricultural products. this could be a temporary truce. trade barriers, technology transfers, intellectual rights. both leaders thought it was important to hit the pause button on a tit-for-tat trade war. here is the president speaking to reporters on air force one on the way home. >> it's an incredible deal. it goes down, certainly -- if it
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happens it goes down as one of the largest deals ever made. it's a deal between the united states and china, made by the president and the president. and it will have an incredibly positive impact on farming, meaning agriculture, industrial products, computers. every type of product. >> with us now to share their reporting and insights, julie pace from the associated press, bloomberg, and cnn sarah meyers. you look at the idea that as he left the president told reporters we think we have the fra framework but i'm not sure i want to do it. what convinced him to do it? >> i think he was thinking about his political future as well. a lot of places hit hard by tariffs decided to go and vote for democrats instead of staying with the president. i think he's also looking at the fact that there's no real way to
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win a trade war with china. everyone is going to get hurt if we go to a full-on trade war. he figured out a way to ratchet things up and bring them down and declare victory. we've seen him do this in the past with europe and nafta agreement, made some minor changes and declared it a new deal and sort of declared victory. we're likely to see that as well with this china situation. >> yet we know -- you could see this in the picture at dinner last night, the globalist, if you will, larry kudlow, at the other end of the table, trade negotiator, peter navarro, the people who say let's be tough. let's have tariffs. we don't know if this is just a time-out or if they'll actually work it out. >> in some ways we go back to the beginning where you have these factions in the administration who will be pushing trump. on one hand you have advisers who say yes, we should be tough on china. yes, we should take steps to
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balance china but it could ultimately hurt trump politically. from peter navarro you have a group of advisers within this administration who are there for this reason, to push trump to stay tough on china, to impose these tariffs. even if there is some short-term economic pain, for the long-term for the u.s. economy, they believe it's the right thing to do. ultimately this comes down to a political decision for trump. he promised to correct the imbalance and be tough on china but also to have a good economy. if the first leads to bad on the second we know ultimately where he will come down on this. >> the u.s./canada/mexico agreement they call it instead of nafta. the president talked about how hard it was to get here. listen to canada's prime minister. >> president, i must say pena nieto and president trudeau, we've worked long and hard and
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have taken a lot of barbs, and it's great for our countries. >> we will stand up for our workers, fight for their communities and their families and, donald, it's all the more reason we need to keep working to remove the tariffs on steel and aluminum between our countries. >> the president did not fire back. he did not fire back in the moment. he did not fire back after, which was untrump, if you will. normally, especially at these big international gatherings, where he likes to say america first and poke the process and poke the others. remarkably calm president at the g20. why? >> i know. it's almost like the biggest headline is that there was no enormous headline in terms of trump needling his headlines or doing something on the international stage that looked like a huge faux pas. we had the news about george
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h.w. bush, which gave him pause. in his eyes if you go out there and say we're going to start this massive trade war and then you get china to come to the table and give you a couple of things, that's how this president likes to negotiate. he may be learning that it's possible to sort of pull stunts like that and be able to at least achieve some things you can cast as victories without just showing up at these events and needling your allies and essentially becoming this pariah at events like the g20. >> he avoided any serious problems. we saw putin high fiving the saudi arabia or side fiving mohammed bin salman. the president did not. they had a brief encounter, exchanged pleasantries. he ran into putin at a dinner and the president made it clear i don't like what's happening at ukraine. sometimes he steps in quick sand at these events. didn't happen here. >> i think the president realizes he has a lot of problems and wanted to avoid having more. to the earlier point, these
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pictures of soy beans piling up in these giant piles in the midwest, that's not good for him. but on the nafta now, he has said he is going to -- if the democrats don't want to go along with this new agreement, will he cancel the old agreement to put pressure on them. i'm not sure that's a negotiating tactic that's going to work with the newly empowered democratic majority in the house. >> chuck and nancy will be at a lunch on tuesday, right? usmca, we'll have to get used to that as we go. painful primary general and a general election defeat, more on the life and legacy of george h.w. bush. >> now that you're 85, are you thinking more about the "l" word, legacy? >> i'm thinking about the "l" word being life, life its own self. no, my view on legacy is let the
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the weight is lifted. iraq's army is defeated. our military objectives are met. kuwait is once more in the hands of kuwaitis, in control of their own destiny. we share in their joy, a joy tempered only by our compassion for their ordeal. >> that, you could argue, was the high-water mark of george h.w. bush presidency. his approval ratings soared into the '80s. it was one of many eye-popping world events during his four-year term, along with the collapse of the berlin wall, soviet union, tiananmen square
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ma massacre. the wall went down, the president wanted a victory lap. >> we all went over to the oval office to tell president bush he had to go to berlin. >> you wanted him to go to berlin? >> i wanted him to go to berlin. and he said what would i do, dance on the wall? this is a german moment. >> ambassador nicholas burns, 27 years of government service included working on the national security council in the george h.w. bush white house. let me start with you and that moment. we talk about the blur of the trump age. i remember those days. the soviet union was collapsing. 15 countries emerge. where were the nuclear weapons, where were the chemical weapons? who was going to lead these countries? take us inside the white house. >> john, i think it was -- looking back, it was the extraordinary experience of george h.w. bush. nobody had had the jobs he had had, every job imaginable in the u.s. government. it was his also understanding
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that successful diplomacy at the highest level is often about earning trust and confidence with the man or woman on the opposite side of the table. that's what he did with gorbachev. it was not inevitable that the soviet union was going to end peacefully. we worried about all sorts of contingencies where the kgb or some rogue military officer would get their hands on nuclear weapons and there would be a violent clash. it didn't end that way because president bush was able to work with a descending gorbachev, a rising yeltsin. prime minister thatcher was dubious about german unification. it was bush who made the commitment to chancellor. here is where experience matters and where character matters. i think that's why he's one of our greatest presidents on the international stage. >> to that point, we cover, especially in the cable news
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business, what happens. we sometimes forget what didn't happen. that's the point that nick is making and what vice president joe biden made yesterday. so much could have gone wrong versus what went right because of his leadership. this is how history will rightly remember him. every american, and arguably everybody on earth, owes him a debt of grat titude for being sh an able steward. >> ever since the wall went up in john f. kennedy's administration, i solved it. reagan gave the words "tear down the wall" but i'm the man who got the job done. he didn't do that, because that would be gloating. he didn't gloat about german reunification. who knew what would happen with that, if it would unravel on us once they tried to unify. he worried about the national security concerns in europe. where are the nuclear weapons? when the soviet union broke up
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in 1991, it was a danger alert everywhere because loose nukes could fall into rogue hands. and he honed in on what really mattered. and as ambassador burns said, did diplomacy every step of the way. james baker likes to say people don't ask me why we didn't go into baghdad anymore. there's gulf war one, which we did it right, liberated kuwait, and called operation desert shield a huge success and then there's the second gulf war where why wee tried to take baghdad and run civil war and that second war didn't go well because we overextended the limits of a u.s. intervention. bush, as ambassador burns said, nailed it. he is a great foreign policy president. >> one of the unique spots in history is that he's a presidet and a father of a president, went to war in iraq, evicted saddam hussein from kuwait, as
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you point out, left him in power. his son went to war in iraq. here he is on larry king, talking in the middle of his son's unpopular war. >> you learn to live with it. war is hell. and i think the fact that i was in a war makes me understand that a little bit better. but you just have to. you have to do it sometimes. it's good versus evil. and we're fighting saddam hussein i thought it was that clear. >> one of the fascinating things we now know is that he had issues with his son's administration about the war and particular issues with vice president cheney and donald r rumsfeld, a good friend of his. is that right? >> the gulf war 1991, iraq war 2003, president george h.w. bush built up this 500,000-person
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coalition of over 60 countries. president bush and secretary james baker conducted operation tin cup and went around the world to the saudis, japanese and germans and said you need to pay for the war. and they did. but the mandate of the united nations was to eject saddam from kuwait. it was not to go into baghdad, occupy iraq or dismember iraq. so when that fateful decision that president h.w. bush had to make, the road to baghdad was open, he said i'm not going to go down that road because he didn't have the mandate to do that from that big coalition. and i think the politics, the international politics was very different 12 years later. >> and, doug, put into context what we're going to see this week. the dysfunction between the bush family and trump family, president trump. he will be there. we saw the bond between president h.w. bush and bill clinton even though they ran a nasty campaign against each other in 1992. what will we see play out this week?
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>> donald trump will be having to take backstage when he was at the funeral. i don't think he was close to bush 41. the family doesn't like president trump very much. after all, he pummeled jeb bush when he ran against him and barbara bush, at her own funeral, didn't want donald trump there. however, bush 41 has done the right thing. the president of the united states should be invited. he will be there. a lot of people will be watching how donald trump acts, behaves while he's there but also these incredible eulogies, the chance for george w. bush to talk about his father. bake, james baker, you saw him shortly before he died, would call him jeffe. used to be 41. he saw him, baker, right before 41 died and said where are we going now, bake? and the answer was, we're going to heaven and 41 said great, that's where i want to go. i want to be in heaven.
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those kind of stories will be continued and then also the navy, the fact that he was on 58 combat missions in world war ii, the navy is putting out things on twitter and all about what a great american he was. so i think the military aspects of that career of duty, honor, country, patriotism will be coming out in the next few days more and more. >> amen. that's important. great man from the greatest generation. appreciate you both coming in this morning. hope we can talk more in the week ahead as we pay more tribute to president george h.w. bush. the special counsel and the president ratchets up his anger at the special counsel.
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shadows from the russia investigation stalking the president this week. the president on his twitter feed saying illegal hoax, mccarthy-style witch hunt, a few words from a president who knows his role is central as the special counsel closes in on the big questions. biggest twists in a week full of them? long-time trump lawyer, fixer michael coh nechlt now talks about building a trump tower moscow extended deep into the 2016 election, where candidate trump was talking about lifting russia sanctions and a period during which his campaign softened republican party platform language critical of vladimir putin. if that isn't enough, court filings show that cohen is
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cooperating with other investigations including one into the president's charitable foundation. tasas it's clear, the special counsel's focus is increasingly on the president. it's clear he has always had anger but it's escalating. >> yeah. remember, the president said early on that a red line would be delving into his business deals and trump family business, partly because he was worried about protecting himself but because he was always worried that somehow this would seep into his family business and somehow impact his children. that's what we're getting into right now. obviously we know through what michael cohen has said that the special counsel is interested in trump's business dealings. that brings the kids much closer to the russia investigation than we've seen thus far. >> jerome corsi, conservative author, conspiracy theorist, michael cohen saying we didn't really stop in january when he was a candidate and things started to kick into gear. we kept talking to russia throughout the campaign. connect dots, let's go soft on
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rusha be easy on russia. you ask the president this very question, this very question. when did it stop? what did you have? >> can you a whether you are aware that anyone in your campaign had contacts with russia? >> general flynn was dealing. that's one person, but as he should have been -- >> during the election? >> no, not anybody that i'm aware of. >> you're not aware of any contacts during the -- >> how many times do i have to be asked this question? >> can you answer yes or no? >> i haven't made a phone call to russia in years. don't speak to people from russia. not that i wouldn't. i just don't have anybody to speak to. >> turns out it was a damn good question. trump business people with russians during the campaign. this is the issue. we don't know if the president is kupable of anything, but we
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know it's not a ruse. >> if there were contacts between trump officials, campaign officials or trump org officials but there was nothing nefarious going on, why do people continue to lie about it? that is the great unanswered question. is it because he has a culture around him where people choose to lie? it could well be that. or are they trying to hide something? we don't know. bob mueller may know the answer to that. repeatedly we've seen people say they're not involved with russian officials only to find out they were. that's just a fact. >> robert mueller will probably be differential to the george h.w. bush funeral but this will carry over to 2019. the president wanted it over this year and it will carry over to next year. >> they thought it would be finished in 2017, said thanksgiving, christmas. it bled into 2018. and it seems from the filings
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mueller put out this is going to carry over to into 2019. several people close to the president who have been indicted and close to him even within his family who are worried about potentially being indicted. it's very interesting, as julie said, that so many people close to the president have lied about this. >> it does seem mueller's building a pyramid, as i say, and we're getting closer to the top. we'll share some personal reflections about the 41st president. we opened our doors with 70-megawatts, 35 mules, and an ice plant. but we brought power to the people- redefining what that meant from one era to the next. over 90 years later we continue to build as one of the nation's largest investors in infrastructure. we don't just help power the american dream. we're part of it.
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we close each sunday by asking each of our great reporters at the table to share something from their notebooks. today, something a little different. we ask our veterans of the bush years to look back and share a memory. karen? >> last time i saw the president up close and in person was at a funeral for my former colleague at "time" magazine, and president bush got up and began
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reading this remarkable exchange of letters that he and hugh had exchanged over the decades and he got so emotional that he broke down and could not finish. his daughter, doro, had to get up and finish reading these letters for him. people keep talking about his amazing rolodex. but what they don't realize is that for every name, there was a really intensely personal connection as well. >> that's important, different age. frank? >> i have to tell a personal story. the president would have the white house press corps to his home at kennebunkport. you could bring your family and the rest. i had a 2-year-old and 5-year-old and my wife and i were there. the president and mrs. bush engaged with the children because they really were family members and family oriented in every way. and there's this great picture i have. i'm holding the boys and all the rest. there you go.
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a while ago. and next time we saw them, my wife and i together, was at the white house christmas party that following december. by this time with my third child mierks wife is visibly pregnant. we come through and the president points to her and says another little cesno on the way and barbara says yes, george, you remember their two boys and he says yes, i do. whether he did or not, i don't know. but the impact that that had on us personally, and what that says about the president and mrs. bush, i think, really does speak to the human connection that they made, as karen says, in virtually every interaction they had. >> great point. the human connection. great way to put it. carl? >> in 1984 i was a local government reporter in south florida, and george bush comes down and he's on a campaign swing for the reagan re-elect. and i really hadn't had a big interest in national politics. this was the first sort of national politician i was
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around. and it made an impression on me, sort of piqued my interest in national politics. year later i was in d.c. and a few years after that, i was covering his inauguration. i feel lie ai real journalistic connection here. >> the internet revolution caught up after he was president, and while he was a prolific letter writer, i actually, in 2010, got my first e-mail from a president. and from kennebunkport he writes we rarely go out anymore. we live a very happy, content life. we watch a lot of "law & order." i go out on my boat and i sit and i watch the sea and i count our blessings. the e-mails and the domain for the george bush retirement office is flfw.com former leader of the free world.com. >> that is awesome. don't ever delete those.
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i'll end by sharing a funny encounter i had, by chance, at a very tough bush family moment. backstage at cnn presidential debate in houston not long after jeb bush dropped out of the 2016 race. gop establishment, you'll remember at the time, was in a panic, aghast at the likelihood that this guy, donald trump, was about to become their presidential nominee. in the hallway reince priebus, jokingly asked president bush if he wanted his old job as the party chairman back to deal with the trump factor. 41 had a laugh and said hell, no. mrs. bush, i think jokingly, turned to me and said you know, you could have been nicer to jeb. president bush tapped me on the shoulder. james baker and general colin powell will join jake tapper on "state of the union." have a great sunday.
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