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to be score another win? >> i think the american people recognize that we must keep government open and we should not have a shutdown. and ranking the 2020 democrats nationally and in iowa. >> there's never been a darker moment in our country. the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. to our viewers in the united states and around the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. embattled interior secretary leaving. the president is naming a new chief of staff but raising eyebrows by adding "acting" to the title. >> i served with mick, obviously, in congress. worked together a lot on budget tax reform, other issues as well. he is a tireless worker.

he is no baloney here. he says it the way it is. i think that's why the president likes him. >> plus, republicans with a giant court victimvy. the landmark obama care law must be scrapped, a judge says. it has shifted dramatically in the democrats' favor. >> i believe we're going to get really good health care. exciting things happened over the past 24 hours. if everybody is smart -- we have a lot of democrats here tonight, and i'm happy about that. people don't realize i have a lot of friends who are democrats. we have democrats here. if the republicans and the democrats get together, worry going to end up with incredible health care, which is the way it should have been from day one. and it's going to happen. it now has a chance to happen. >> and the feds close in. special counsel still wants to talk to the president and court filings accuse candidate trump of illegal hush money payments and lies about his russia

business dealings. >> there's a pattern here of the president being surrounded by crooks. by crooks. people who are now convicted or pleading guilty. extraordinary number of people around him have admitted to committing crimes. and that raises questions that we have to get to the bottom of on behalf of the american people. >> julie hirshfeld-davis, rachel bay from politico and cnn's abby philip. we begin a packed hour with new developments that underscore the president's legal and political jeopardy. the allegations more specific and more detailed, ranging from hush money payments to women, to russia business dealings to the role the president's daughter played in inaugural spending now under scrutiny. making clear the cloud of investigation is only growing as year two of the trump presidency winds down.

the president, who insists he did nothing wrong, was challenged both in court and on television this past week by a man who, for a decade, said his job was to carry out mr. trump's dirty deeds. >> he was trying to hide what you were doing, correct? >> correct. >> and he knew it was wrong? >> of course. >> and he was doing that to help his election? >> you have to remember, at what point in time that this matter came about, two weeks or so before the election, post the billy bush comments. so, yes, he was very concerned about how this would affect the election. >> there, michael cohen is talking about late 2016 campaign payments to buy the cleanse of an adult film actress and playboy centerfold. the president says it's cohen's fault, bad legal advice if they violated campaign finance laws. >> they put those two charges on

to embarrass me. they're not criminal charges. >> this is important. they are criminal charges. publishers of the national enquirer is cooperating and backs up cohen's take that payments were made to, quote, make sure that a woman did not publicize damaging allegations about that candidate before the 2016 presidential electin and thereby influence that election. cohen lied to congress about candidate trump's russian business dealings and that cohen discussed the status and progress of the moscow project with individual one, that's the president, on more than three occasions. and those are just two. hush money payments, russia business dealings. let's just put the list up. this is what stuns me. at the end of this week, the trump campaign, trump inaugural committee, trump transition, trump administration and trump foundation all under investigation. reports even that the new jersey attorney general may look at

trump golf courses for undocumented hiring. the president wanted this all gone. it is not all gone. it is growing. >> what's striking about this is that the white house, the president and people around him don't seem to grasp the seriousness of this. i think they've been resigned for many, many months now to letting the president take these investigations on via twitter, by simply just talking his -- trying to talk his way out of them. the problem is that, as you pointed out, this is not just special counsel robert mueller. it's the southern district of new york, led by someone appoint bid president trump. it's perhaps the state attorney general in new york. there are so many avenues in which this administration is coming under fire and this white house doesn't appear to grasp that these are real legal challenges, not fake ones, not ones that you can talk your way out of and there's no plan to deal with that.

the president goes out there on television, on twitter, making matters worse for himself. i think we're in for a bumpy next few months in which this could get very bad for this president. i think he is resigned to blaming this on fake news but it's going to get very, very serious as more people are pleading guilty and going to jail for lying to investigators. >> the fake news argumet gets much more difficult to make when you start reading these court filings, they have corroborating documents, witnesses. it's not just michael cohen turning on the president. >> the court filings are piling up. the southern district of new york investigations concern them in a way that in some ways the special counsel even does, michael co-n, who is unencumb unencumbered, wanting to share documents, meetings, payments. businesses, transactions that predated the presidency. so, once you get under the hood there, you hear a lot from the trump allies. that's another world that they don't understand, we're not part

of. it could be pretty murky for them. if you look at the sheer number of these investigations, it's every day is a different development and different front for the president. we refer to rudy giuliani and the outside lawyers but the president is using a lot of his political capital to fight back against these investigations now. what's the agenda in 2019 if you're spending so much of your time pushing back on investigators that are coming in every aspect of your life? >> this is not even, in counting all the investigations they'll be confronting from the house democrats when they take over in january. i mean, this is a whole other can of worms that they know they'll have to deal with. the difference there is they do have something of a plan. i think the white house counsel's office is very focused on trying to figure out how they'll deal with that incoming. a number of agencies and things that they could be investigating there. and what has come out of these legal -- existing legal cases

and investigations up till now will start to be taken up by congress. when they engage in a fight over potentially getting the president's tax returns, they'll get into these questions of his private business dealings and what they may also tell us about ongoing things like russia. i think there is going to be sort of a quickening drum beat that will happen very quickly when democrats take over in january, of them starting to lay out exactly what they're going to look into. >> from the court filings and, again, michael cohen, you can take, is he telling the truth, is he not? clearly he wanted a shorter prison sentence. the take is it's politically motivated, it's a few bad apples who turned on me. when you see things like this, michael cohen, going to prison for three years, michael flynn, national security adviser, one of the most sensitive jobs in the u.s. government, sentenced in the weeks ago. your campaign chairman, deputy

campaign chairman and george papadopoulos, trump could make the case a much lower level adviser. those people are going to jail or have already been to jail. it's hard for them to say there's nothing there. there's clearly something there. >> we heard prosecutors specifically say they've seen evidence that michael cohen was not lying when he said individual one, this is the president, you know, directed him and was directly involved in these hush payments to women to buy their silence. from a capitol hill perspective, it will be interesting to see, number one, how democrats prioritize all these different things. russia, potentially obstruction. the hush payments, trump's tax returns. we saw the case regarding campaign finance laws being broken and the president potentially directing that to his top lawyer. that case is really taking off. there's actually a divide among democrats on the hill.

do they want to make that a central part of what they're doing? when it comes to women they're afraid there could be a potential backlash. there's talk about do they want to focus on rusha obstruction? right now the case that perhaps they have the most evidence and cohen is willing to talk, he is willing to come to congress rrding these hush payments. >> great point. democrats face choices, too. there's political ramifications for them. do they do that? do they now try to ask questions about ivanka trump and was she involved in -- there's an allegation that trump hotels were overcharging in the trump inaugural. the point about michael cohen and the specifics of campaign finance payments to stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, the president of the united states accused by his own justice department of committing felonies. >> the president hires an attorney to solve a problem, he expects him to do it in a legal

manner. >> remember the information came from a guy that was a liar and accused of lying to the congress of the united states. how much credibility do you want to put in the words of a liar? >> i'm not excusing it, but we're talking about sex. we're talking about stormy daniels, michael avenotti and playboy bunny as your chief witnesses. >> i don't care. all i can say is that he is do ing a good job as president. >> senator hatch cleaned that up at the end of the week revising the i don't care. instead they seem to say please go away, all is fine. >> we haven't heard about any of this. what are you talking about? i haven't seen these tweets, the court filings. and my colleagues from the post did a great story this week when she interview eed 15 or 20 of

these members and they all pleaded ignorance. you know united states senators have seen these developments. they're on every front page, on television, on the radio. how can you not see these developments? they say we don't know what you're talking about. >> totally hypocritical. >> their supporters will still support president trump and numbers are really high. what are you going to do, denounce him and he comes after you and you have your own political foundations? >> i'm not accusing things that the clintons did, and trump people used to talk about pay for play. match it up. will a legal ruling against obama care create a new political headache for republicans? as we go to break, politicians say the darndest things especially retiring senators. >> i am optimistic about the future but my optimism is due more to the country that my parents gave to me than is due

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a federal judge in texas is giving republicans a long-sought victory, one they could well live to regret. the judge ruled the individual mandate in obama care is unconstitutional and as a result the rest of the landmark health care law cannot stand. nothing changes immediately because the ruling will be appealed, likely all the way to the supreme court. but it was republicans who file this had suit and they have now won in court what they could not achieve in congress. if upheld, the ruling would invite sweeping disruption back into the insurance market for all americans. not only does it throw out the individual mandate requiring health coverage, it would also end protections for those with pre-existing conditions and provision for allowing children to stay on a parent's plan until 26 and caps for out of pocket

expenses. repealing obama care, you might remember, was the gop's holy grail in four of the last five election cycles. the exception was the most recent cycle. health care specifically that republicans want to gut obamacare was a driving force in the 2018 democratic gains. >> he voted against pre-existing conditions for families like mine. >> lance voted over 60 times to attack and undermine affordable health care and he has voted repeatedly to weaken protections for people with pre-existing conditions. >> yoder took nearly 500,000 in campaign cash from insurance companies pre-existing conditions, meaning these and many more could lose their coverage. >> great victory for the republicans. this is what they wanted since obama passed this almost a

decade ago. now what, in the sense that the politics have changed so dramatically in the last year or two. the president last night saying we'll all come together and pass great health care. there is zero evidence in the last two years that he is capable of doing that, that he has a plan to do that. now that democrats would be willing to listen to him. >> it's a little bit like the dog that caught the car here. they got this ruling in their favor. the judge said the law could stay in place. first official statement out of the white house from sarah sanders included that, nothing is going to change for now. that's important for them to drive home politically. if people think they're going to lose health care immediately, lose all those benefits you put up there on the screen that will be a huge crisis for republicans to compound just what happened to them in november in the elections, based on the fact that people -- not just democrats, but the public at large do not like the idea that naer going to get their health caretaken away. the key question now is what are

they going to do? there's cleary going to be an appeal to their case and democrats will have to decide what they're going to do in terms of an improvements bill to protect the affordable care act and what are republicans going to do in return? their strategy that they were trying to use last year and the year before, that we're going to repeal and replace fell to the fact they couldn't agree what they were going to replace it with. and the question is, are they more clear about what that is? >> the answer is no. now you have a new democratic majority with a lot of members who want medicare for all, a more liberal-run government approach. so the best position for the democrats, politically, is just say the republicans file this had suit. nancy pelosi, likely to be the next speaker, said republicans are solely responsible for this cruel decision and the fear that they have struck into millions of families across america who

are now in danger of losing their health coverage. >> the president is flexible in what he wants it to be. rachel and i did a story last year where democrats came to meet with him, and he said can we call it repeal and replace? sir, you can call it whatever you want. the president would sign on if they could come together and put together a plan. he won't dive into the specifics of this. he doesn't have a prescription he wants. he's saying come together, bring us the plan. that's easier said than done. >> if republicans can't agree amongst themselves, no way they'll be able to agree with democrats who are taking control of the house and all these younger members who want medicare for all. they are expected to come in and instruct house counsel to defend the obamacare in court. it will force democrats in the house, and republicans who said on the trail oh, we're going to

protect your pre-existing conditions, et cetera. it will put them on the spot and they'll have to take a vote, do they want to defend obamacare and move forward, and putting together that americans do support obamacare? >> it's extraordinary. i've been at this for a while. for an issue to be front and center in six or seven election cycles. divided america has been having a tug of war over this issue since it was passed. it predates obama care being passed. here is how the ground has changed. democrats lost the house in 2010 and 2014 in part with people being unhappy with health care. 82% of americans, allow children to stay on parents' plans until 26. creation of individual health care exchanges, 82%.

subsidies for low and moderate income americans 81%. clearly those numbers tell you, you have a problem. >> he will find out quickly because we're really into 2020 already. i would add to what josh said, the president is flexible about this but also easily swayed by whoever is talking to him. if the freedom caucus types whisper in his ear, mr. president, this is a bad deal, we could end up back in the same position we were in on daca and a whole host of issues where trump walks in the room says i want a deal and five minutes later changes his mind. >> he had a rose garden event to call the health care great and then within days he called it cruel. so he's flexible. new chief of staff and now he needs a new interior secretary. - [narrator] the typical vacuum head has its limitations,

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trump this week and the president says more likely to come. new acting chief of staff, tapping his budget director, mick mulvaney. then the president said his interior secretary, zinke, is leaving at the end of the year. shake-ups are standard fare but the complications here are anything but routine, escaping before a guaranteed aggressive oversight by house democrats and mulvaney has to deal with not only the power shift in congress but also the pressure of investigations and the challenge of keeping the white house in sync with the trump re-election campaign. it is the moment more than the personnel that fascinates me here in the sense, let's just focus on mick mulvaney for a moment. he knows the president, has been around since the beginning. that's a plus. you have to deal with the investigations, the democrats assuming power in congress, the president getting ready for

re-election, pretty big portfolio for mick mulvaney. >> interesting it's something that the omb director tends to be pulled into, that they are always given many, many jobs because as omb director, they have a lot of skills in terms of understanding the federal government and managing it. in this particular case, the most important thing about managing the white house is the president and a really chaotic staff situation in the west wing. he has a lot of skills that he brings to the table but there's an open end question about whether those are the right skills needed to deal with a west wing unlike anything we've seen before and a president, frankly, who does not want to listen to anybody, least of all anybody who might think they know better than him about any given subject matter. >> eagerness for the job helps, though, in the sense that for all the people who said no.

people under consideration said please, no, please no. god, no. we wouldn't have enough room at this table to put them all. mick mulvaney saw his next gig, would have given up a very valuable apendage to get that job. some people would laugh at that as maneuvering. whatever you think of the president, the president should have a chief of staff who wants to be there and wants to try to fix what is a mess. >> he's ambitious. i covered him in the house. he was always a bomb thrower. he cheered for shutdowns, told republican leaders don't mind credit default. make sure democrats do some kind of cuts when you raise the debt ceiling. the minute that trump won, he saw an opportunity. i remember talking to him the day after the election and he told me he wanted to be omb director. he laughed because he was this sideline hardliner. never saw him go into the omb but there was a deficit and

people wanting to enter the trump administration because they knew it was risky. he worked with paul ryan, sort of a nemesis of his own. they didn't get along very well and had different policy views, to get that promotion. from there he has been at omb and sees the steps and sees it as a way to climb the ladder. >> can he impose discipline on structure that has been chaotic to the point -- i'm going to read to you, josh, trump grew frustrated that nobody of high stature wanted to be his chief of staff, according to a senior official. so he decide d suddenly on fridy afternoon to tap mulvaney. he was never formally interviewed for chief of staff. he met trump for a scheduled discussion of the budget showdown but left as acting chief of staff. >> people kept saying, no, i don't want this job.

white house officials told us friday morning, it's likely to be chris christie. within two hours, he put out a statement saying no way. nick ayers, who the president settled on said no, i don't want it after all. lots and lots of people saying no. mulvaney, though, is an interesting case study. his aides, people around him, told reporters he would rather have a cabinet job. don't think of him for this. however for months he has been pitching the president on becoming the chief of staff. at a dinner they had this summer he said i won't try to manage you, like john kelly does, i won't try to stop who talks to you, i won't stand in the way of your family and at the end of the day i won't leak laek to the news media. the president liked the argument. he kept john kelly but eventually when it came back around, mulvaney made the pitch again. the president was going to name

someone soon. if it wasn't mulvaney on friday, it was going to be very soon. he had a week of kind of -- >> hanging out the door. >> -- nobody knew what was going on. >> i will respect your family and don't have a scandal. >> mick mulvaney, to rachel's point, was a bomb thrower in congress and he said i'll basically enable you, let you do what you want. it's an open question whether that will be good or bad for donald trump going into this next period. he needs a chief of staff to keep him on a path to go up against these investigations, to figure out how he will deal with democrats at the house. if he has someone at the table that is just concerned about keeping him happy and allowing him to tweet whatever he wants, say whatever he wants and if he wants to shut down the government, go ahead and do that, they're already in a mess because of that. if that's the strategy for chief of staff, it will be an interest

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decision says congressman beto o'rourke. first this reminder, 417 days since the first 2020 vote in iowa. consider these just the early, early, early baseline. let's look at our numbers. number one, who is running for the democrats? these are some of the people thinking about running. as you know, they're not all going to run but we're going to have a crowded democratic field. the former vice president way on top, 30%. ber bernie sanders. this is what's interesting. beto o'rourke, senator booker, senator kerry, kamala harris. our brand new partnership, iowa poll, joe biden first there, too, bernie sanders second

again, o'rourke, warren, harris and booker round out the top six. four in ten, just shy of that, 36%, want a newcomer to politics. there's a big divide among democrats about what they want. if you notice both polls, three white men first, second and third. kristen gillibrand thinking about running, not happy with that. >> in a party as diverse as ours, does it worry you to see the top three being white guys? >> yes. >> why? why? >> i just -- i aspire for our country to recognize the beauty of our diversity at some point in the future. that's what makes america so beautiful that we are all that, all everything and a more inclusive america is a stronger america. >> very, very important becaus

we're going to talk a lot between now and those 416 days of the iowa caucus of 2020. these numbers aren't so important to tell you who is winning but to give you a baseline. when we look back and see who won the iowa caucuses, we'll know how the party changed, if it changed. if you're joe biden, you have to love it. you're ahead nationally. the person ahead in iowa now, if you go back historically, never wins. >> i don't want to say none of this matters but it may not matter. but i think it just -- >> it's the starting gate. it matters in that context. >> it's the starting point. we have a long, long, long way to go. i think democrats have a lot to work out. one of the biggest elephants in the room is what kirsten gillibrand just laid out, how do you connect a diverse party with a field that don't seem all that

diverse? or at least the diverse candidates don't seem to be gaining traction. what you saw this with beto, can you also speak to the issues of a diverse coalition? i don't think you can rule out that factor in determining where the democratic base is going to go. it's not necessarily just going to be is the candidate someone who looks like us but do they also understand what we want them to talk about? >> part of the challenge if you look at the people not the dynamic. 36% say they want a newcomer. it's a challenge of the newcomers to flip those numbers. that's what barack obama did against hillary clinton. she was the seasoned hand, he was the new face. people thought interesting kid, is he ready? and he flipped it. this is the poll from december 2014. jeb bush was going to be your republican nominee followed by chris christie, ben carson, marco rubio.

no donald trump here. he didn't touch the polls. for the record he is the president of the united states. >> i remember thinking scott walker would be one of the top contenders. that faded quickly. the thing about a woman not being in the top three right now is interesting. it has been a year of the woman in american politics and there has been more than 100 female candidates just elected coming to the congress. it's interesting to see that we don't have anyone in the top three right now. it could be just name recognition. i would expect that some of these women candidates -- >> a lot of it is name recognition and experience. however if you're beto o'rourke, you lost but gained national attention doing so. obama was third in the iowa poll at this point in 2007 -- 2006 it would have been at that point and he won in 2008. not saying that means anything but if you're beto o'rourke, you

may be able to pump out your chest a little bit. >> how do you take on donald trump and deal with him? you saw elizabeth warren come out, do that dna test that was widely seen as botch sbad bad maneuver, beto o'rourke has tried to run a candidacy not about trump, a philosophical argument. a lot of these candidates will have him taunting them, making fun of them. when they go up in the polls they'll get nicknamed and nancy pelosi said it this week, when you get in fight of a skunk, what happens to you? i'm not going to say what she said on television. that will be the fundamental challenge for these folks. >> and who will play in a democratic party unlike any other republican. >> if you try to make it about him it's hard to win on his terms. >> it's interesting at this base.

the people at the top of that poll are people that they know, they know what a candidacy would look like. beto o'rourke has just run. they know what that looks like. i think as it unfolds we'll see gender and racial diversity in the field of people looking to take that on. >> we'll see. we're just getting started. our reporters open up their notebooks including a warning from republican women on capitol hill. while deep cleaning carpets, the added soft brush roll picks up large particles, gives floors a polished look, and fearlessly devours piles. duo clean technology, corded and cord-free. and fearlessly devours piles. take prilosec otc and take control of heartburn. so you don't have to stash antacids here... here... or here. kick your antacid habit with prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. at dewar's, all our whiskies are aged, blended and aged again. it's the reason our whisky is so extraordinarily smooth.

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ask our great reporters to share a little something from our notebooks, get you out ahead of the news. >> we are t-minus 5 business days to a government shutdown if congress and the president can't come to some kind of terms. the house is gone until wednesday. there's no clear indication of what the plan is from the white house or republican congressional leaders to keep

the government running. one of the reasons that the house is gone, one of the big uncertainties, will they have enough there for the people to vote? if there's an agreement that can be reached, will there be enough republicans who are defeated, retiring to cast those votes? in addition to all the uncertainty they're wondering who will come back four days before christmas to get this done? >> your government, not at work. josh? >> the president seems to be in a move for change, moved his attorney general out, chief of staff, interior secretary. i think there will be more shakeup in the cabinet. he's unhappy with kierstin nieljsen. this president has often showed his cards in advance for months by complaining about official we felt knew, for example, rex tillerson would be fired long before he did, and jeff sessions long before he did.

if you've been watching the carousel of the white house, i think he should expect more people to get off soon. >> more change through the holidays. rachel? >> female house republican lawmakers are getting fed up with their male colleagues for not addressing the party's issue with women after this midterm election where they lost a significant number of female republican lawmakers in the house and suburban moms started leaving the republican party and turning to democrats. the day after the election, one republican woman, in particular, ann wagner from missouri, who has a history of financing for the republican party and has gotten a lot of republican women elected before. she was getting ready to run for nrcc chair to head the campaign in the next cycle to reverse this trend and kevin mccarthy, the majority leader, called her and said he wanted more of these back bench members he was close with and it infuriated the republican women in the congress. there's huge tension between the men and women and whether the

republicans are willing to address and support female republican lawmakers and win back more suburban women. >> if the men would listen. >> if they care about winning back the majority, they will. >> simple math there, abby. >> we were talking about change in the white house. one more element will become even more problematic for president trump. he thought he would go into 2019 with someone close to him, who could help him navigate the political wins of his campaign. nick ayers, vice president's chief of staff, said no to that job. there's an expectation next year that some people are going to continue to be leaving within the white house, leaving for campaign jobs, for super pac jobs and others. some have already left like the white house political director, bill stepien. president trump always wanted someone who he felt understood his base. president trump being uneasy by this factor in the white house

but also leaning heavily on the people on the outside, who he has been talking to for many, many months now. his kitchen cabinet of outside advisers. mick mulvaney might give him expertise on capitol hill and management wise but still does not appear to have what the president is looking for, someone who has the pulse of his maga base. >> that's the hard part, keeping the white house in sync with the election campaign. >> a little drama out west, establishment republicans are nervous but still betting arizona governor will set aside his doubts and name martha mcsally to senate conceit of john mccain's early this week. that was a truce months in the making. mrs. mccain believe mcsally was too quiet when president trump criticized her husband and then mrs. mccain believes mcsally was too to distance herself.

cindy mccain refused to shoot a tv ad supporting mcsally, who lost. meghan mccain made clear over the weekend she is no mcsally fan but banking on that friday meeting with cindy mccain to hold sway with the governor. mccain family conversations include the idea of jack mccain, retracing his dad's footsteps and running for the house after leaving the military. cindy mccain's help now could be returned as a favor in a few years. republican senator susan collins and democratic congressman elijah cummings. thanks for joining us. have a great rest of your sunday.

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