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mom. ♪ you our -- our breaking news news, the federal government officially shut down. >> there are human beings who are going to be asked to work without pay or going to be told to stay at home. >> i am proud to shut down the government for border security, chuck. i will take the mantle. i'm not going to blame you. >> if i were chuck schumer, i would turn the phone out, sit by the pool, wait until january 3rd. >> let's be partisan and get it done. >> we had a deal made, but he
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was listening to the ann coulters, the bill o'reillys of the world. >> this is the consequence of a president who walked away from the deals that the republicans and democrats together had agreed upon. good saturday morning to you. i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm leyla santiago in for christi paul this morning. for the third time this year alone the government has shut down at least partially. this after lawmakers tried and failed to pass a spending bill with border funding for the wall that the president wants. midnight came and went. >> so the question now -- how long will this shutdown last. thousands of federal workers may have to wait. a lot of them continuing to report to work when all they opt that christmas list, a paycheck. >> now the week after he told democratic leaders that he would be proud to take the blame for a
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border wall shutdown, president trump says it's the democrats' fault. the shutdown caps a rough week for the white house after a dramatic court appearance from a former national security adviser, resignation letter from the secretary of defense, and the worst week on wall street in a decade. >> all right. we are covering this from all angles this morning. lots to talk about. cnn white house correspondent abby phillip and cnn national correspondent suzanne malveaux. let's start with suzanne. walk us through the last hours of the negotiation, what we should expect today, and how people are reacting. >> reporter: good morning. sure, the lights are on here, but it's eerily quiet. what is going to schahappen is mostly behind the scenes. at noon we'll hear from majority leader mitch mcconnell, but we expect much of what is going to happen is behind the scenes, private negotiations between republicans as well as democrats over the phone, making calls,
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trying to figure out if there is a deal to be made here. most people have gone home. we are told that lawmakers will have 24 hours to be called back if it's necessary for a vote. but essentially they're going to be trying to work out something. last night, it was about 8:30 when folks essentially went home. that's after cornyn, the whip, said, look, we don't have the votes that are going to actually pass anything. and so what happened yesterday was that you had the vice president, mike pence, as well as omb director, mick mulvaney, as well as jared kushner come here to the white house, they met with top republicans as well as the democrats to see if they could craft something. they did not come up with anything. trump was insisting on the $5 billion for the border wall. there was $1.3 billion that was on the table as part of the current deal. democrats did not budge from that. and then as you might know, it was last week, just a couple of days ago really, when the president had agreed to a deal
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that both house and senate said was okay, and he did, as well, to $1.6 billion. they didn't have the votes for anything on the senate side. they needed that 60 votes. none of the democrats went along with that. now what you have is the blame game that continues to go on. a statement from nancy pelosi and chuck schumer essentially saying that this is the trump shutdown. and that they will do everything in their power when the democrats have majority in the house come january to get the government open as quickly as possible. one of the breakthroughs that did happen yesterday, and pence did break this tie, was to essentially keep the negotiations going, to keep the debate going on. the key questions now are will the president accept anything less than the $5 billion, what kind of language would that be, how long will this take, is this something that could happen the
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next 48 hours? then finally, is the president's word worth anything here? they had a deal that everyone had agreed to including the president days ago, and it was basically blown up. and so if they come forward and say this is the deal that we're going to vote on and there is no other deal that we're going to vote on but this one, will the president stockton that deal, or will he try something else again. that is what lawmakers are asking themselves this morning. >> yeah. it's a fair question. thank you very much. president trump says he canceled his trip to florida so he could stay in washington to wait for democrats. that's the word from the president. cnn white house correspondent abby phillip joins us now. more than waiting for democrats, we hear suzanne talked about the vice president, the acting chief of staff, the senior adviser going up to try to chart the way forward on the negotiations. are they moving forward, and, you know, what more is the
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president doing? >> reporter: well, it's not entirely clear if there is real progress being made. the question of what president trump himself is doing is a really important one. this is, as you know, the person who prides himself on being the dealmaker-in-chief. he has been at the white house while others have shuttled between the house and senate side on his behalf trying to make a deem. one of the things -- make a deal. one of the things that we have heard coming out of the negotiations is at that president wants to push for a substantial amount of border security funding. exactly how much that will be is anyone's guess at this point. but one of the senses that we are getting is that it is not likely to be the $5 billion that he pushed for in the house bill. meanwhile, the president here at the white house, as you mentioned, canceled that trip to florida. he's also been very busy trying to rebrand the shutdown which just a week ago he claimed he would take full credit for. listen to what he said in a video the white house put out yesterday. >> call it a democrat shutdown,
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call it whatever you want. but we need their help to get this approved. so democrats, we have a wonderful list of things that we need to keep our country safe. let's get out, let's work together, let's be bipartisan and get it done. the shutdown hopefully will not last long. >> reporter: in any event, most of what he said in that video really contradicts what he's been saying all week. in fact, he sewed twitter yesterday that he balboa -- he said on twitter yesterday that he believed if there was a shutdown it would not last long. the president is not clear about where he is willing to compromise in terms of border fu funding. that you will, it seems that washington is trying to compromise, but both sides are not talking with great deal about what it would take to end the shutdown. president trump still isn't going to florida, but you get the sense at the white house that the minute that this situation is resolved he will be heading down there.
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and clearly he is eager to do that. he talked quite a bit about how he has canceled his air force one flight down there. meanwhile, melania trump, the first lady, and the president's son are still heading to florida to spend the christmas break at mar-a-lago. >> thank you very much. so more than just the back and forth between politicians, what is really at stake during this shutdown? at least 420,000 federal workers are expected to work without pay until lawmakers make a deal. 380,000 employees on furlough as we head into the christmas holiday. >> essential services, we're talking about things like social security, will still get funded. you can expect your mail to be delivered, always important this week. federal employees who keep people safe, military, law enforcement officers, those will keep working. >> as we said, the 420,000 employees working without pay. that number, there are families who may be living paycheck to
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paycheck. the paycheck they were counting on may be coming late. >> let's bring in randy irwin from washington, national president of the national federation of emplfederal emplo. what are your members telling you? what's the biggest concern right now? >> they're really concerned about losing their paychecks. it's sad that this is happening around the holidays. government shutdown means that those 380,000 workers that you're talking about are going to be without pay, and they weren't really prepared for this. and so you know, they -- you know, they bought all their christmas presents, put money on their credit cards, and they don't know -- now they're not sure how they're going to make the rent. they're not sure if -- if they don't have a paycheck come in and who knows how long it could last, they're not going to be
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able to keep the heat on. they're -- they're concerned about their mortgage, it's -- it's a lot of concerns. these are real people who will have real families and real financial obligations. and they had the carpet ripped out from under them with the shutdown. >> democratic leaders in congress call this the trump shutdown. the president now says the democrats own the shutdown. this is after last week when he said that he would be proud to take up the mantle of shutting the government for border security. who does your investigation think is responsible for what we're seeing? >> this is trump shutdown. let's be real here. there was months and months to work out some kind of negotiation. he doesn't have the votes for the border wall. because of that he's putting everybody in a predicament. forcing the shutdown, doing it around the holidays, and you
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know, he's obviously being supported by the republicans in congress. we're an organization that works equally with both republicans and democrats. it's want way we operate. we need do that to best advocate for our members. so for us, it's not a partisan thing. let's be real, they're shutting down the government, and trump has taken ownership and is the one that deserves the credit for it. >> your organization represents 110,000 employees. you were saying many were caught offguard. i'm going to assume that many hoped a deal would go through before midnight. what is the outlook? are they hopeful that something will change before january 3rd, before there's a new control in the house? >> i think they are hopeful, but you know, you really can't prepare that way. you can hope, but if you got to feed your family and get through the holidays, i mean, people kind of assume that, one, this
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shutdown isn't going to go on for very long. the president says he wants this to be a long shutdown. that means an even -- for people who are living paycheck to paycheck -- and we've got a lot of people in our organization, some making as little as $26,000, $27,000 a year, they are, you know, they cannot sustain a cutoff of their income for any period of time. they have to plan as though they're not -- it doesn't matter if they're going to get paid a month later. they have to plan as though it's not coming. other thing is, you know, in the past, congress thankfully when there's been a furlough has paid workers who have been furloughed. there's no guarantee of that. and so for a worker who's being furloughed, you've got to plan as though your revenue is shut off and it's never coming. and for a family who's making in the $20,000, $30,000, low $40,000 range, this is just pulling the carpet out from
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under them, and you can't really plan for that. >> the expectation is is that once the government gets up and running and 100% is that congress will, as part of the legislation to get the government open again or open the government, will reimburse the federal workers for back pay. that is your expectation, right? >> it is our expectation, but we have seen efforts in the past thankfully that have been thwarted. there will be an effort by some in congress to make federal employees pay for the dysfunction in washington. >> let me get one in here. you talked about preparation and planning. and there are several degrees and categories of preparation. the family preparing for potentially being without income. but also the preparation from the departments, from the administration. what degree of communication was there headed up to midnight so that people knew who would be required to or requested to show up and work, who would be imp t impacted and affected, and those
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who would not? >> some of the worst preparation that we've seen. when there's been shutdowns in the past, there were weeks leading up to it in the days ahead of time. you know, as employee representatives, we were having conference calls with the agencies and how it was going to be rolled out was very clear. where this time around two days ago people thought that there probably wasn't going to be a shutdown. you weren't seeing the behaviors from the agencies that you would have expected. i was talking to a lot of people in our organization. you know, i had talked to a lot of members, and a lot of them had no idea whether they were going to be furloughed, whether they were on the accepted list so they weren't going to be furloughed. so the preparation was very, very poor this time around. everybody was caught with their pants down. >> wow. great insight. randy irwin, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. in addition to the shutdown and what we saw at the department of defense, this was
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also the worst week on wall street in a decade. a lot of people wondering when this slide will end. we'll talk about that. plus, is the acting attorney general already in the president's dog house? this just weeks after being on the job. details next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the greatest wish of all is one that brings us together. the final days of wish list are here. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. only at your lincoln dealer. carla is living with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast
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well, any honeymoon period for acting attorney general matt whitaker did not last long. cnn has learned president trump has ripped into whitaker at least twice in the last few weeks. multiple sources say the president was frustrated that federal prosecutors, whom whitaker oversees, filed chargers against michael cohen that made him look bad. he directed whitaker to stop the investigations. the top democrat on the house intel committee found the news unsettling. adam schiff tweeted, the president of the united states should not be discussing any criminal case in which he has
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been implicated with the acting attorney general. this is wrong, unethical, and eviscerates post-watergate policy. whitaker should not need an ethics opinion to know this is inexcusable. the supreme court has dealt a blow to the asylum ban. a federal court that blocked the policy, it would have temporarily banned migrants who illegally cross into the u.s. from the southern border from seeking asylum outside of the official ports of entry. a district court ruled the ban conflicts with immigration law. an interesting tidbit -- chief justice john roberts sided with the liberals with the 5-4 ruling. the justice department plans to continue fighting for the ban. it was a rough, very rough end to an awful week on wall street. president trump, not so happy about. that the dow closed down 414 points on friday. for the week it fell 6.9%.
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that's the deepest weekly plunge since the recession in 2008. president trump blames the fed chair for the downfall. according to bloomberg, trump is even thinking about firing jerome powell, blaming higher interest rates for the market hits. >> cnn's money and politics reporter has more from the stock exchange. good morning to you. >> reporter: a brutal week in the market. the dow and s&p on track for the worst december since the great depression and the worst yearly performance in a decade. this week the selling began in earnest on wednesday when the federal reserve raised interest rates. investors got nervous that the central bank was weaning this economy off of easy money. look, we've had historically low interest rates now for over ten years. that's helped boost the economy. when interest rates are low, consumers are incentivized to buy houses and cars and, of course, stars.
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rising interest rates might have the opposite impact. that's what spooked wall street. add to that, jerome powell disappointed investors making it sound like more interest rate hikes were baked in for 2019. that sent the market even lower. adding to the negativity, president trump who tweeted on thursday that he was willing to partially shutdown the government over border wall funding. even after one of his economic advisers tried to assure the market that a short and partial shutdown would not have lasting economic impact, the president took to twitter two emphasize the shutdown could be long. friday the federal reserve tried to repair damage. new york fed president clarifying that the fed will monitor what's going on in the financial markets and future hikes depend on economic data. overall, a very volatile week for wall street that ended with investors still deeply concerned about the impact of the ongoing trade war with china, a global
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economic slowdown and stimulus from the tax cuts wearing off. >> thank you. right now the u.s. government is partially shut down. thousands of employees getting hit in the wallet. we'll look at who's affected and how long this could last. plus, the news that sent shock waves around the world triggered alarm bells in washington. learning new details about president trump's reaction to the resignation of james mattis. ♪
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for the third time this year the government partially shut down this morning after the white house and congress failed to reach a deal to keep it funded. at issue here, a highly charged fight over money for president trump's border wall. lawmakers tried to make a deal, but it's unclear how close they are to striking any sort of concerns sparking concerns that this may last well after the new year. >> so who is affected? well, 75% of the government already has funding in place through this coming fall. but in various departments and agencies, 420,000 government employees are now working without pay. let's go through them. at homeland security, 55,000 tsa workers will remain at their posts. 55,000 custom and border agents and officers are without pay,
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too. they will stay there, too. at transportation, 24,000 air traffic controllers remain on the job, so will railroad inspectors. at the state department, passports will be issued, but not at every passport office and at government facilities where workers are furloughed and the offices are closed, obviously. the smithsonian museum in d.c. still open through january 1st on the regular schedule. it's unclear what happens beyond the 1st. the justice department will mostly remain open and operate. of the russia investigation will certainly continue. in addition the agriculture department will continue food safety inspections. other services stopped bike research. and folks at nasa, they're put on leave of object sense without pay. at the -- absence without pay. at the interior department, national parks, some services at parks are closed, as well, like restrooms and visitors centers. joining me to discuss further, reporter and co-author of "political play book," danie l litman. good morning to you.
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>> good morning. thanks for having me. >> let's get right to the back and forth. we heard from the representatives of thousands of federal workers talking about how this is real, these are families waiting for a paycheck. so what do we expect it will take for a deal to be made here? >> so negotiations are going to start again later today. what it's going to take is that trump and republicans who are in the freedom caucus, they'll have to accept that they're not going to get billions for their border wall. it's going to have to be labeled border security funding or a fence or anything that just does not include the name, the word "wall." that is just unacceptable to democrats, and they feel like they have america on their side since they won the midterm elections in the house. trump has accepted caves on this before. and he looked until earlier this week that he would accept a deal
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until he got so much criticism from the right that he worried that he might lose his space in in 2020. >> give insight on both sides here. why do some believe this makes him long strong while others believe this makes him look weak. why two extremes here? why do we see belief on both ends? >> i think for people who view trump as weak in this is that republicans still control the whole of government, and yet they can't even keep the lights on. that's kind of the argument for saying that there have been three shutdowns in the last couple of years. you have this repeated fight and it just does not go away because trump was obsessed with the border wall. it's a $25 billion project and very little that has been actually appropriate. for those of you that says making trump look strong is that until a couple of days ago when he indicated he would not budge,
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many people thought he was going to get rolled. remember ann coulter said this is the end of your presidency. this is very dangerous because one of your prime promises during the 2016 campaign that got voters on your side was to build a wall and to protect the country, and yet that has not happened under president trump. >> we see the clock there ticking on amount of time that the partial shutdown has been in place. that's also ticking toward when democrats will take over in the house. so january 3rd we'll see a big change. do you think that that plays a role here in how democrats and republicans approach this? >> i think it definitely does because trump's leverage for getting border wall money only decreases as that january 3rd date approaches. because nancy pelosi when she's speaker of the house will not accept border wall money or even
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border security money. i think both sides feel this is a limited shutdown. this is not open ended because every expectation is that if it continues until january 3rd, the first active nancy pelosi in power will be to get the government lights back on. so during the holidays, just -- the pressure is not there, and plus many of those republicans who were defeated don't seem that interested in making a deal. they want to get on with their lives, get their next post congressional gig. >> right. meantime, 800,000 workers dealing with uncertainty right now, daniel lippman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> how are federal workers dealing with the shoutdown? next hour, the director of the american federation of government employees. more insight there. president trump angry over defense secretary james mattis' resignation. it's not his departure that has the president fuming.
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38 minutes after the hour now. president trump is angry over defense secretary jim mattis' resignation letter. a source close to the white house says the president, quote, hates the letter but hates the coverage more. he's upset that mattis was often called one of the adults in the room. general mattis' abrupt resignation stunned u.s. allies, took all of washington by surprise. it came right after the president's announcement to pull u.s. troops out of syria. let's talk about all of this. here with me now, rebecca grant. she's a national security and military analyst and the president of the irs independent research and rear admiral john kirby, cnn military and diplomatic analyst. welcome back, both of you. let me start here with you,
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admiral kirby. "the guardian" and "washington post" are reporting -- and this gets to the syria decision and general mattis -- that it was the call with the turkish president erdogan a friday ago, a week ago yesterday, in which there was the exchange where erdogan said i don't know you why have u.s. troops in syria. you say you won. why are you backing the kurds in syria. the president said, you're right, it's yours, i'm getting out. how does that correspond with the letter that general mattis submitted with his resignation, talking about the strategic competitors and line actors? >> it shows what the dissidence was between president trump and mattis with respect to what we're doing in syria, and more broadly, victor, on the power resident in alliances and partnerships it also shows some of the schizophrenia of turkey over the issue. they have bristled at the support we've been giving to syrian democratic forces, the kurdish fighters, because they
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view most of the kurdish fighters as terrorist groups. on the other hand, they've kind of quietly welcomed american presence there in northeastern syria because it has tended to keep russia and the asod regime and, frankly, isis -- assad regime, and frankly, isis from the borderers. they're suffering paranoia on this, as well. >> rebecca, i read in your conversations with my producers that you don't believe some of the concerns or don't agree with some concerns that democrats and republicans have expressed about the president's decision to pull out, the u.s. troops there, of syria? >> the first point i'd like to make is that a lot is staying in the region. we'll have air power in jordan, qatar, the uae. we have navy forces. special yops are ready to en-- special ops are ready to engage at any moment. there are special forces on the ground. we have a commitment there and the ability to come back and bring in firepower whenever we need to. i think finally the admiral is
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right. turkey couldn't take it anymore. trump has to consider that our mideast policy really rests on turkey, israel, saudi arabia, not a happy trio. there we have it. >> rebecca, wolf blitzer spoke with steven miller, senior adviser to the president, and how he frames the u.s.' involveme involvement in syria and the enemies the u.s. was fighting. watch and listen. >> let's defend our national security. let's put america first. but let's not spill american blood to fight the enemies of other countries, as is the case in syria. >> the enemies of other countries there in syria. do you think that's the appropriate framework for the work the u.s. military has been doing in syria? >> well, the u.s. military is working with our coalition. the defeat isis coalition consists of almost 70 countries and nato and other groups. i don't agree with that. don't forget the reason we had to extend operations up into syria was to retake iraq.
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that's been accomplished, we still have 5,000 american forces in iraq. and the mattis strategy of surge last year in syria has worked. right now we're down to about 2,000 isis fighters. they control less than 1% of the territory. according to the coalition's report of december 4th. so mattis did achieve a lot with his policy in syria. >> admiral, has the u.s. been fighting other countries' enemies in syria? >> no. i mean, in fact, the idea that steven miller put -- is ridiculous. russia, iran, turkey, assad, have never been all that serious about fighting isis or -- and/or al qaeda derivatives inside syria. their focus has largely been on propping up the assad regime so they can have, particularly russia and iran, can continue to use syria for their own national interest. russia wants a foothold in the middle east. it's been their only foothold for decades. iran wants a thruway to support
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hezbollah in lebanon. they're not interested in fighting isis. we've not been fighting other people's enemies. isis is a global enemy. and as was pointed out, the coalition is 74 nations strong. it's an international effort. so it's very much on behalf of our own national security interests and the interests of so many other countries around the world who which and with which we partner. >> admiral kirby, rebecca grant, thank you both. >> thank you. secretary mattis isn't the only one upset with the president's reduction of forces in afghanistan. one senator who returned from there says pulling out now could lead to another 9/11.
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afghanistan. >> a republican senator, lindsey graham, has backed the president on a number of issues but not this one. this week before that news broke, cnn's kate bolduan traveled with senator graham. his job was to thank the troops and make the case to president trump that after the 17 years, a secure afghanistan ensures a more secure united states. here's the exclusive story. a quick warning, the senator's language can be colorful. >> reporter: senator lindsey graham is on a mission, a mission to connect with the troops, but also a mission to convince a president that after 17 years, afghanistan is still a fight worth fighting. you've been here so many times. why come back this time? what's this visit about? >> well, i always come back as much as i can. one, if you're sending people up here to fight for your country, you at least owe it to them to kind of check in on them. >> reporter: we had exclusive access to follow graham on a
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whirlwind tour. he's been to the region more than 40 times. but there marks his first trip back to afghanistan without his closest friend and confidante. >> this is the first trip without john mccain. this is a tough one. think there a minute ago how many times i've been here. but almost all the time with john. >> reporter: yeah. >> and the president's going to make some decisions about afghanistan soon. i hope he makes good ones. >> reporter: from kabul to kandahar, his message, we've got your back. >> how long you been here? >> about it. -- about 2.5 years. >> reporter: the commander in chief has yet to visit any combat zone. including where the fight against al qaeda after 9/11 began. >> i would hope the president would come over here. i know he loves the military. i would advise him to come over and say thank you, sit down with president ghani and the afghan partners and tell them what you
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would like them to do better. understand afghanistan -- being afghanistan in a completely different experience than talking about it in washington. >> reporter: and by being in afghanistan this time, the senator received critical status updates from the top afghan commando -- >> a good outcome in afghanistan is important to the united states -- >> reporter: and the top american commander of u.s. and nato forces there, both saying isis is on the rise. >> the isis threat in afghanistan is far greater than i thought it was. if you get a peace agreement tomorrow between the taliban and the afghan government, that will not solve the threat to our homemade. >> reporter: yet president trump has made no secret he has little interest in committing u.s. troops to conflicts overseas. look no further than his announcement to pull all u.s. troops out of syria. >> now we've won. it's time to come back. >> reporter: even before that announcement, this was graham's greatest fear about afghanistan.
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>> the bad news, if we leave this place, it will go to shit in a year. >> reporter: seriously? >> if we pull out, go to zero, this place will fall apart very, very quickly, and we'll regret that decision at home. the people that we're holding at bay here want to hit us again at home. i hope people understand that these soldiers that you see around and you talk to, they're a virtual wall against radical islam coming to america. >> reporter: what do you say to a president who ran on the" we're not the policemen of the world"? >> i know what you're being told, president trump, but what will happen in afghanistan. here's the difference -- this is the center of gravity. this is the place where it all started. if we're driven out of afghanistan, if america is beaten after having spent all these years and this much blood and treasure, every jihadist throughout the world will be on steroids. >> reporter: what would happen if president trump decides to pull everybody out tomorrow? >> you need ask that question to our military leadership.
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i've asked that question, and they've given me a blunt answer. this place would fall apart. we could if we make the same decision we did in iraq, leave to soon, set in motion chaos that would make iraq look like a walk in the park. and i think one of the most likely outcomes would be a second 9/11 coming our way. >> it's important to remember that senator graham told kate this before president trump announced that he was withdrawing all u.s. troops from syria and said he's doing so because isis was defeated. and before cnn reported the military is being told to draw up plans to cut u.s. troops in afghanistan by half. coming up, holiday travelers bracing for a rough weekend. santa, not really bringing the snow with him. it is the rain that could wreak havoc this year. look, if you're not the lead dog, the scenery never changes. that's why this is the view for every other full-size pickup. and this year, it's déjà vu all over again
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after a major storm on friday brought grueling travel conditions, another storm this weekend could bring more travel headaches. >> another one. meteorologist allison chinchar joins us now. good morning. which cities are feeling it the most? >> it's mainly the focus in the northeast today. that's likely to change tomorrow. let's break it down. the last 24 hours, again, this brought numerous cancelations and delays across the mid-atlantic and northeast yesterday. we still have lingering moisture today for states like pennsylvania, virginia, maryland, and even new york. here's the thing -- some of those states don't need any more rain. the reason for that is we have about 70 cities, yes, 70 cities, that have already broken their annual rainfall record or are about to within the next week before we finish out the year. take a look at this. wilmington, officially topping out at over 100 inches of rain for the year.
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baltimore and washington, d.c., also breaking their record for rainfall for the year. so any additional moisture on top of this really is likely going to cause concerns. those aren't the only ones. again, we talked about over 70 cities. look at the map. the red dots have broken the record. the green dots are likely to by the timy with finish the year -- by the time we finish the year. we have the other storm on the horizon,ing that good-b ing tht the additional moisture. the system is moving into the pacific northwest but also the northeast. big hubs, new york, boston, d.c., philadelphia, those are going to be big concerns. tomorrow, however, as that next system begins to push from the southeast through states like massachusetts and maine, you're now going to have even more delays. unfortunately, cities like cincinnati, atlanta, and charlotte which may be okay for today are likely going to have much bigger impacts tomorrow. so if you have flexibility,
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today likely looks like the better travel day. we all know if your flights were bought ahead of time, there's not much you can do at the last minute. >> all right. thank you very much. again, thank you very much for the luggage carousel. thank you very much. a judge in oklahoma has put a fence around its christmas nativity scene. it's part of sending a strong message about immigration. fellowship congressional church says the holy family was a migrant family, too. >> and church leadership says that just like mary and joseph, migrants fleeing to the u.s. are seeking shelter from oppression and violence. the church's pastor says everyone at their church has their own opinion on immigration, but everyone can do better. >> that's quite the image right there. you don't see that very often. i mean, you even see not only with the nativity set are they showing it, but also with their signs, making a statement when it comes to immigration during this christmas season. >> indeed.
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next hour starts right now. breaking news, the federal government now officially partially shut down. >> there are human beings who are going to be asked to work without pay or going to be told to stay at home. >> i am proud to shut down the government for border security, chuck. i will take the mantle. i will be the one to shut it down. i'm not going to blame you for it. >> if i were chuck schumer, i would turn my phone off and sit by the pool somewhere and wait until january 3rd. >> let's get out, let's work together, let's be baurnipartis and get it done. >> we had a deal made, but he was listening to the ann coulters, the bill o'reillys of the world. >> this is the consequences of the president who has walked away from deals that republicans and democrats together had agreed upon. good saturday to
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