good evening. the president of the united states, who is a billionaire, says the 800,000 people who aren't getting paid because of the government shutdown are okay with that. just ask them, he says. he also says he thinks their landlords will be okay with them not paying the rent. those are just a couple of takeaways from president trump's press conference today on the shutdown. keeping them honest, that and other things he said today deserve a closer look because of what they say about a chief executive, asking others to make sacrifices for him to go without pay, perhaps, he says, for months. he also says, this all may be over soon. however long, he's asking people to go without and when presidents traditionally do that, it means they're taking responsibility for the outcome. that's the least they can do. it's such an obvious thing, it often goes without saying. and to a measure, president

trump did that, took responsibility for the shutdown. >> i'm proud to shut down the government for this border, chuck. people of this country don't want people who have problems and drugs pouring into our country. i will take the mantle. i will be the one to shut it down. i'm not going to blame you for it. the last time you shut it down, it didn't work. i will take the mantle of shutting it down. >> his mantle, his hshutdown, hs responsibility for the consequences. he said that three weeks ago before the shutdown. it was easier to say before the shutdown, before tsa screeners have been working without pay, began calling in sick today, some in protests, according to supervisors, some according to the union to find other jobs to feed their families or pay the rent. the buck stops with me from the president, that's the moment he wanted you to see. he called the cameras into the white house. now, maybe not so much anymore.

>> are you still proud to own this shutdown? >> i appreciate the way you say that. but once -- i'm very proud of doing what i'm doing. i don't call it a shutdown. i call it doing what you have to do for the benefit and safety of our country. you can call it whatever you want. you can call it the schumer or the pelosi or the trump shutdown. it doesn't make difference to me. just words. >> who's responsible? makes no difference to him. it's just words. sort of saying construction on the wall is well under way. >> we've been working very, very hard. we've done miles of wall already. >> unless the president means r existing pieces and barriers, it is not true. when he says much of the wall is already built, that's not true. just words. maybe are these just words, too.

here's the president talking about who pays for the wall. the answer used to be easy. mexi mexico. that's what he promised. now, he says the trade agreement will pay. doesn't have the same ring. makes no difference. just words. >> you repeated your claim, mexico will be paying for the wall. >> yes. >> can you describe the mechanisms in the trade deal where mexico pays for the wall? >> nafta has been one of the worst trade deals of all-time. now, we have a deal that's great for our country, and good for mexico, good for canada, also. it's three countries. we will be taking in billions and billions of dollars more money for the united states, including jobs, including companies that won't be leaving us anymore and going to mexico and in some cases, canada, to a lesser extent. >> the question was, can you

give us specifics? keeping them honest, it's hard to know what the president is actually saying there. if you think that's because we've chosen the one clip where he gives a confusing and rambling answer, here's what he said when another reporter asked the same question. >> very nice question. so beautifully asked, even though i just answered it. >> you didn't answer it. it has not even passed congress yet, sir. >> i just told you we made a trade deal. and we will take in billions and billions -- more than the cost of the wall. the wall is peanuts compared to the value of this trade deal to the united states. >> just to be clear, the wall may be peanuts, but the notion of a trade agreement somehow paying for one, it's apples and oranges. for starters, the treaty hasn't been ratified yet. it's not in effect. when it takes effect, the gains will be going to the businesses that will impart and export goods and services. to the extent that more tax rev

view from them offsets a wall, it offsets a new post office in montana or a highway in duluth. the president never explained how it adds up to mexico paying for the wall. and his press secretary hasn't been able to do that, either. only words. or word salad. >> the deficit is ballooning to over a trillion dollars for this president. where are additional moneys going to come from? and why is he asking taxpayers for that when he said mexico would pay for it? >> we're looking at existing funding through other agencies right now we can draw on to do that in the -- immediately. the president has been clear -- the president has been clear that the usmca deal would aprovide revenue that would show that mexico is paying for the wall. >> the trade benefits, if they are any, they don't go to the

treasury. >> the revenue provided and the money saved, we could pay for the wall four times over. and by doing that new trade deal, we have the opportunity to pay for the wall. >> but trade benefits go to the united states. they don't go to the treasury. >> he's talking about the general revenue that comes from that. >> so, you're going to tax -- >> we're not going to tax. we're dogging about re knew tvet wouldn't have existed without the deal. >> that would not be a tax, to fund a not yet wall that the president said is either under way or almost fully built. that's not. this nontax money will come not from mexico but from a trade deal with mexico and canada, which i suppose can be that canada is going to pay for the wall. but it's just words, like the president says. makes no difference. he's asking a lot of people not in mexico, but right here, to pay for the wall and pay up front for the shutdown. they are paying for it right

now. again, he's got the answer. >> it does have a higher purpose than next week's pay. and the people that won't get next week's pay or the following week's pay, i think if you look at those people, i think they'd say, mr. president, keep going. this is far more important. >> if you ever really looked at those people. later in the program, you'll meet some people who are not getting paid right now. they've got bills to pay, credit cards, groceries, as well. held insurance, mortgage payments, the rent. the president has words for them, too. words for that, let them eat wall. >> what is the safety net for federal workers? you're saying months and possibly a year for this shutdown. do you have in mind a safety net for those who need their checks? those who need ssi? those who need medicaid? >> we're going to be safe.

i'm not talking about economically. ultimately economically. >> so, that's the safety net, the wall. to those words, you can add these words, the president suggesting that somehow credit c to ors, are also happy to sacrifice for the wall. >> government employees, people that are worried about bill collectors, would you ask those companies, the land lolords to easy on the workers. >> i think they will. >> would you ask them? >> i have been a landlord for a long time. i've been in the real estate business for a long time. when you see there are problems out there, difficulties are out there, people are good for the money, they work with people. they work with people. >> they work with the people. the old magnanimous landlord looking out for his tenants that can't pay. mr. trump was a landlord, he must have been that kind of a landlord, right? he actually talked with "the washington post" about his early experience as a landlord, with

his dad in brooklyn. part of what he said is here, quote, you know, he says, when you collect rent and you may have heard this, but you never stand in front of the door. and you always knock this way because you get bad things coming through that door. does that sound like he was there to offer his tenants a few more months or weeks to pay? he did not announce plans or orders or propose legislation to provide relief to tenants or to landlords. and when asked if he would tell his staff to refuse the $10,000 pay raises they are due to get tomorrow, the president said he might consider it but made no commitment and moved on. just words. more now on the standoff and the shutdown behind all this. want to go to kaitlan collins at the white house. still an impasse. now, the president is threatening to declare a national emergency to somehow build the wall. how does that work? >> reporter: that was the conflicting stance, as you saw from the president, in that press conference in the rose

garden there. at some points, he would be saying, he felt he had a productive meeting with democrats and the shutdown could be over in a matter of days. then, he switched to, yes, he did tell chuck schumer and nancy pelo pelosi, this could go on for years and he may have to use emergency powers to get his border wall built. the president is saying this situation at the border is a national emergency since october. he hasn't declared it since them. judging from what we heard from sources in the white house, that's not a topic of discussion. the president leave it on the table. >> and you pressed the president of the wall being made of concrete. he said he didn't say that. that is not the case. and i want to play this for our viewers. >> a wall. i build buildings that are 94 stories tall. that's tough stuff.

this is so easy. some of you are in the construction business. think of garages. you know the concrete plank that goes 60, 70, 80, 90 plank. it's precast. you put a foundation, a rut, you make it beautiful, you put a little design in the concrete. >> it will be made of hardened concrete. when you build buildings, when i build buildings, walls are easy. no windows. no nothing. precast concrete, going hot. you have to be kidding. concrete blank. you have to be kidding. precast. precast, boom. done. keep going. >> ba da bing ba da boom. a lot about concrete in there. >> reporter: that's something he promised repeatedly to people on the campaign trail, to people who voted for him. a lot of people voted for him because he said mexico was going

to pay for the wall and it was going to be built of concrete. when his former chief of staff,kelly, said, the days of a concrete wall being built were long gone, someone who previously served as the dhs secreta secretary, the president said a concrete wall had not been aband abandoned. that's not what he argued today in the rose garden, that it would be constructed of steel. i've talked to several people close to the president, asking what is he going to build it of and what is his reason for changing logic? they said it was the president not wanting to be seeming to back pedal on his promises. that he's going to build a wall and it will be made of concrete. >> kaitlan collins, thank you very much. another view of today's meeting with lawmakers. it's reported in "the wall street journal."

michael bender is on the by line. you write that the president, quote, opened friday's meeting with lawmakers with a 15-minute profanity-laced rant about impeachment, according to people familiar with the meeting. what more do you know about that, if anything? >> well, hey, anderson. this, from what we understand, is the president upset about the quotes from inside the democratic congress. the explicit quotes from some of the new members, saying they were there to impeach trump. he was hot about that last night. he was hot about it today. he came into the meeting hot and wanting to complain about that. we saw a little bit of that during the news conference. you'll remember that trump said that pelosi told him they weren't considering impeachment. well, it's not quite the case from what we understand from

both house and white house officials. what pelosi told trump inside the room, when he was complaining the members, they were there to talk about the shutdown, not to talk about impeachment. when she said she wasn't considering impeachment, from our understanding, what that meant was in the moment, in the meeting about a shutdown, he didn't want to talk about removing the president from office. >> according to your article, a president said, and i'm quoting -- the president -- not quoting the president, but quoting from your article. quote, told lawmakers he didn't like the word shutdown and preferred the word strike. do you know if anyone interpreted that to make sense? a strike is obviously when people refuse to go to work out of protest. it's the exact opposite of what's happening here. >> right. the only thing we could piece

together is all of the federal workers the president is talking about that he wants to keep holding the paychecks until he gets funding for the wall. that's the only way we could make sense of what that meant. you heard him say during the news conference, he doesn't like calling it a shutdown. >> he said three weeks ago, he would be happy to take that mantle. >> yeah. >> go ahead. you also more detail on what pelosi called a contentious meeting. the speaker told kirstjen niels nielsen, i reject your facts. and the secretary replied, it's not my facts, but the facts. it's the administration that said there are alternative facts. what do we know about that back and forth? >> this has happened a couple of

times now. when lawmakers were over on wednesday, there was a similar exchange, where nielsen tried to go through about a threat on the border. and schumer and pelosi shut it down to move on to negotiation with trump. and this is really frustrating the white house. say what you want about trump's performance, how articulate he is about this issue. i mean, he and the white house really do believe they could win this argument on the policy. you know? we saw trump do that today. he ran through a laundry list of issues, you know illegal immigration to federal workers getting paid, he believes can be solved with a wall. they bring in nielsen to run through the facts. and wednesday, and again today, because senate and house democrats, they know those

numbers. they're there to find a negotiation. anderson, there's real frustration inside the white house right now. there's about the messaging on this shutdown. you saw it with trump. you mentioned him, whether he wants to own the shutdown anymore or not. there's a feeling they're getting outmaneuvered by congress on this, by democrats on this. there's no sense that democrats are any closer to making a deal. and the white house says they're at least a week away from making a deal. you know, a week away, we start talking about the longest shutdown since the 21-day shutdown in 1995, which is not helping them in messaging, either. >> michael, appreciate your reporting and calling us tonight. the article is from "the wall street journal." joining us now, one of the

few republican house members that declined to vote to fund the government but not the wall. can you walk us through your thinking on why you chose to break ranks with fellow republicans, which really only a few others did, and vote to reopen the government and not give the president funding for the wall, at least for now? >> well, last week, i voted -- a couple weeks, i voted for a continuing resolution that included funding for the wall. i want to keep the government open. it's a fundamental responsibility of anybody in congress to keep the government running. i made a promise to my constituents long ago, that i would never vote for a shutdown or continue a shutdown. that's all that was last night. make no mistake about it. i believe we need to secure our border. >> do you believe that a wall needs to be built, like the president says? and that mexico will pay for it? >> well, i guess that's part of

what i'm trying to break through here tonight. we're battling over semantics here. i saw arguments that the democrats want border security and the president wants a wall. you can't have border security without barriers. we have 700 miles of barriers. we're talking about enhancing the barriers to make the border more secure. why can't both sides sit down and get it done? we can all win on that. >> i wonder what you make of the reporting in "the wall street journal," the president didn't want to call this a shutdown but instead wants to call it a strike. does that matter, do you think? >> the way i look at it, to me, it doesn't matter. it matters that people in ohio and in my district, are planning funerals because the border is not as secure as it should be.

and they don't care about semantics, and making the border secure and keeping it open. if the leaders on both parties would think about those a little more and the semantics of what the terminology is, i think we would be better off and get more done in this country. >> the president said the shutdown could last months or years. obviously, you know, that's not good for anybody. and the hundreds of thousands of federal workers, not getting paid while the bills pile up. he expects landlords and creditors to go nice and easy on those people. can you foresee something like this losting that long? >> i don't foresee it lasting too much longer because the pressure is mounting. as far as the shutdown goes, i think it's incumbent to give a little. when you draw lines in the sand and you have the extreme positions on both sides, we're

not going to give a dime for funding border security or a wall and the other side saying, we want a wall. you have to bend. border security is about securing the border. it's about providing barriers that keep the border safe in high traffic areas pip know this myself. i was a federal crime officer. i saw how much of a sieve the border is and how much of a detriment it is. even in california. if you took down the barriers that california has right now, california would be concerned about that. the fact of the matter is, we need security. and the people could dispense with the rhetoric and dispense with the back and knforth, we wl be better off as a country. they want to see people sitting down and getting things done. ronald reagan did it all the time with tip o'neill. they were politically on different ends of the spectrum.

and they got big things done. >> yeah. >> well, congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thanks so much. >> you take care. maggie habermann joins us from "the new york times." we'll dig deeper into the president's next steps. what is she hearing inside the white house and what the president's state of mind is. how he's looking at things. also, the human cost of the shutdown. we'll talk to the wife of a coast guard serviceman who has been working without pay and get into the details how they are making ends meet. smile dad. i take medication for high blood pressure and cholesterol. but they might not be enough to protect my heart. adding bayer aspirin can further reduce the risk of another heart attack. because my second chance matters. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.

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before the break, you heard michael bender from "the wall street journal" describing the highly contentious, highly-charged,profane, shutdown meeting at the white house. the president opened the meeting with a rant over impeachment. and awarding to "the wall street journal," the president told lawmakers in the room he doesn't

like the word shutdown but prefers the word strike. not sure that makes sense that strikes are voluntary and 800,000 some odd workers didn't sign up for this. they're not an strike. but at the very least, it may be an indication of divorced from reality this situation is becoming. perspective on what the president may do next. joining us for that, "new york times" white house correspondent, and cnn analyst, maggie habermann. is there any scenario that you see him accepting a deal that doesn't give him the full funding he is demanding? where does this go? >> there is a scenario where he would accept a lesser amount if he was able to claim it as a win. we're a ways away from that right now. the president is very dug in, as michael bender indicated with his reporting. my reporting is the same, that the president feels good about this. i don't think the entire white house feels good about this. his new chief of staff, mick

mulvaney, is in favor of the shutdown and is support of it. that's propelled the president forward each day. but a lot of people in the white house don't know the end game here. the president isn't clear on what the end game is. they're going to have staff meetings this weekend, with congressional aides. there is going to be a meeting on tuesday, we understand it. and the president has had his son-in-law, jared kushner, because he pushed through the criminal perform bill on the hill, had him involved making phone calls yesterday. my understanding of those conversations is that jared kushner was having very loose conversations saying the president is dug in on this. you're going to need to give him funding and maybe you can get something in exchange, like daca, which is part of how this whole daca for the wall got floated. that's not something the democrats are interested in. nancy pelosi has made clear that the government has to get

reopened. and part of that is a strategic move to make sure the president can't say what he's been saying, that this isn't a shutdown, this isn't my shutdown. we're all here. we're going to be doing this for a while. >> were you surprised, today, when the president owned up to saying that leadership meeting, that the shutdown could last for months or years? he said that people could call it the schumer shutdown, the pelosi shutdown, the trump shutdown, and he doesn't care. three weeks ago, he said he proudly takes the mantle of it being a trump shutdown. >> he gets carried away in the showy moments, at the oval office meeting or at the press conference, where he wasn't really thinking through what the implications would be that he had said that, as he does with these things. he feels proud of these things. he is proud of showing the supporters on immigration, i am sticking to caving.

i'm going ahead of it. but he is aware that the word shutdown is a problem for him. they are more aware in the white house, that the number of services being impacted is vast. the president, to your point is just words, this is just a game. the government has reopened fairly quickly. this is having real-world impact. and he is aware that that is problematic. certainly, his aides are aware. he is trying to suggest that we're all in this together. his supporters feel that way. his supporters feel that democrats are not bargaining. there had been a bill that had been agreed upon and passed through the senate. and then, the president backed out of that compromise deal. democrats don't feel like there's any percentage in going first and give him a deal. they think he can't be trusted. >> the president is toying with the idea of using emergency powers or talking about it,

bypassing congress, unilaterally building the wall with military funding. how likely is that? >> it is not likely. but he is doing more than just talking about it. it has been talked about in the white house office. the white house counsel office has explored what can be done here. that was done months ago when he started to talk about this in the fall. recently with the shutdown, they started to look at what can be done again because the president has been opining that this is something he would like to do or have an option open to him. almost everyone i talk to thinks it is certainly an illegal move. i don't think he can go ahead with it. the language itself, from a u.s. president, however, is significant and a ratcheting up of what we've heard from him almost every day. >> maggie, appreciate it. while president trump tries to downplay the human toll, one member of a coast guard family shares its sacrifices, right

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cnn has learned that hundreds of tsa officers at four major airports around the country have called in sick this week. as many as 170 a day at new york's kennedy airport. sick calls up 200% at

dallas-ft. worth. some of the workers can no longer tolerate working without pay or can no longer afford to. and here's what the president had to say when asked about it. >> you're saying months and possibly a year for this shutdown. do you have in mind a safety net for those who need their checks? >> the safety net is going to be having a strong border because we're going to be safe. many of the people we're discussing, i really believe they agree with what we're doing. >> the president used no examples other than the union agents he had at the white house. we thought we might ask one of the people who is affected by the shutdown, what they think. kayla is married to a coast guard serviceman. he joins us tonight. you and your family, you're among hundreds of thousands of people directly affected by this shutdown. financially, how are things right now? >> financially, it's a bit chaotic. it's a little panicky right now.

we called our creditors and talked about pushing bills back. some were gracious to us. others were not gracious with the situation. we're keep mig sing my son out care. we're shopping with gift cards we got for christmas. >> if the shutdown goes on for months or years, as the president said today, what would that mean for your family? >> that would mean budgeting tighter than what we are right now and probably going back to my family for help. my family has been very understanding and supportive in this process. they are offered to help us with gift cards that we use to buy food for our dog, with a little bit of money as an extra christmas gift. but it would mean for us to tighten our belts even more. it's hard for me because i am a full-time student and i'm an

education major. once the semester starts back up, i have to start working in the middle school here. so, my son will have to go to day care. that's a bill that i can't avoid. >> it's important to point out that you're a coast guard family. your husband is doing something that protects americans and is a national service that we are all thankful for. it's not as if this is just some job that somebody in an office has somewhere that, you know, doesn't have a direct impact on the national security. this actually does impact national security. >> absolutely it does. i mean, regardless of getting paid or not getting paid, i'm proud to be a coast guard wife and my husband is proud to serve. i know it's a little salt in the wounds, i guess, to have some of the politicians or some of the news articles around christmastime that were saying we appreciate the service of our

troops. i don't feel like people are counting the coast guard in it. you know, our coast guard is amazing. they're very supportive of our country. i fell as a spouse, seeing it from the outside, i feel forgotten during all of this. >> if you could say something to the president, talk to him, members of congress tonight, who may be listening about the shutdown, about the situation, what do you want them to know? >> the first thing i want them to know is regardless of what side you play for, regardless if you agree or disagree with the president, the republicans, the democrats, this is not an issue of border security at this point. i think it's an issue of funding one of our military branchs. there's a lot of service members and spouses that work really hard. for me personally, my holidays were very stressful. i thought about returning my son's christmas gifts because of all of this.

i want them to think about all of this. if the shutdown doesn't have a resolution in sight, if they would pass something that would fund the coast guard. if one of the people in charge could recognize, hey, this is a part of our military that's not getting paid and they depend on these checks, i would be appreciative of that. >> i thank you for talking with us tonight. i hope the message gets through. i wish you and your family the best. >> thank you so much. thank you for giving me this opportunity. >> i want to dig deeper with republican, former attorney general, ken cuccinelli, and obama adviser, van jones, host of the van jones show. you heard what kayla is describing what her family is going through. do you think the president has an idea of what the shutdown means for federal workers and families? >> they weren't if you heard his statements today, that were

tone-deaf and zis connedisconne. it's not just the coast guard. the federal workers not being paid. they are begging not to cut off my heat. and the federal contractors -- you're a federal employee. you might get back pay. you're a contractor, you don't work, you don't eat. they're never going to recover. the private companies that contract with the federal government, they are not getting paid. they have to lay off people. the cascade effect on ordinary people is extraordinary. we keep calling it the government. the government. this is america's government. let's be -- we're not talking about the government on the moon or some other country. he won't keep america's government functioning. i don't know how you say you're going to make america great again and you won't keep america's government open for business. >> ken, according to "the wall street journal," the president is saying he doesn't like to use the word shutdown. he wants to use the word strike. does that make sense to you?

>> it's a private sector version of this. this is an impasse. i appreciate van's perspective. but the president is the only one in this negotiation who has signaled a compromise. nancy pelosi, will you give one penny? not one penny. and the president has not taken that tack. he has said other thing s. he's also gone to bat for the coast guard in particular. there are real people involved here. i live in northern virginia. the rings around washington, d.c., the employees and the contractors in a different situation. i agree with him, that are different from federal employees, who can expect, if history's any guide, back pay. but around here, traffic is

lighter. people have curtailed plans. people are staying home that aren't going to work, they're doing other things. frankly, when you hear the two sides negotiating about this, talking in the long term, ways they are, at least if you're a younger or you're a government employee with less years in, you might start looking around for another job. i can see how this would get old. the reality is, the president, not nancy pelosi, i single those two out to the exclusion of schumer, only the president has signaled a willingness to compromise. >> van, is that the case? the president is willing to compromise? >> he's not willing to compromise. the senate voted 100-0, to keep the government open, because the president said he wanted to do it. then, the president got scared by rush limbaugh and went running into a corner and now,

here we are. the idea that it's nancy pelosi's job to pull the president back to where he was for giving up stuff, i don't think it's care to nancy pelosi or to the country for doing this. by the way, we're not the only people watching tv here. america's enemies watch television. this might be a very scary time if you think about the vulnerabilities that we might have throughout the federal family, when you know people are calling in sick, they're not coming into work, they're dispirited and demoralized. you're weakening america's defenses from the airports, to the border, and to the coast. again, we're saying we're making america great. this doesn't seem that great. i don't think it makes sense for -- donald trump said he wants responsibility. he should take responsibility and reopen the government. >> the president today saying he might consider asking his cabinet, topped a tra administr forgoing their raises.

should they consider that with so many people going without pay? >> i think that's the direction he's going in. it's interesting you see congressmen and women on both sides of the aisle who, for years, the numbers have gradually picked eed up, if wet have a budget, we couldnshouldn paid. i don't think it should just be during shutdowns. once they get past september 30th without a budget, congress shouldn't be paid. and the president, too. that should be in place every year. this is a long-term failure. we should have these fights months before this point on the calendar. >> i agree with that. >> the senate and the house under democrats and republicans have failed to pass budgets in a responsible, timely fashion.

>> i agree. >> thank you. up next, a new house democrat coming under fire for her profane remark about impeaching president trump. did she cross the line? or is no worse than language the president himself has used? that's what nancy pelosi said. we'll talk about that and what she just said about it. miralax is different. it works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. and it doesn't cause harsh side effects. that's why i choose miralax. look for the pink cap. save up to $5. see sunday's paper. ♪ and if you feel, like i feel baby then come on, ♪ ♪ oh come on ♪ let's get it on applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.

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tlaib made history becoming the first palestine woman sworn into congress. she was making headlines about something else. her expletive about donald trump. >> bullies don't win. because we're going to impeach the -- >> that language created headaches for her party. the congresswoman is not sorry. she's standing by it. here's what she told cnn affiliate today. >> i think no one expects me to be anything but myself. the girl from southwest detroit. the sass and attitude. i think president trump has met his match. i have talked to colleagues including congresswoman waters and green and others who were very smiling and telling me we

love your spirit. we welcome it. come to us if you ever need help or advice. they agree we need to impeach the president of the united states. it's probably exactly how my grandmother would say it. obviously i am a member of the congress. and things i say is elevated on a national level. i understand that. >> here with the president's reaction earlier. >> i thought the comments were disgraceful. using language like that in front of her son and whoever else was there. i thought that was a great dishonor to her and her family. it was highly disrespectful to the united states of america. >> he said you can't impeach somebody that's doing a great job. nancy pelosi said she wouldn't have used that language but said it's nothing worse than what the president himself has said. i want to bring in kirs ten powers and.

is it the word the message or the person saying it that's upsetting people? >> this was a private event. it's not like it was on the floor of the house. the president himself the idea he is sitting here criticizing this language is ridiculous. there's a clip of him during a campaign rally using the exact same word. she's in a private event. he was in a public event and somehow it's disgraceful when she does it. of course it's probably better for a maria butina of congress not to talk like that. it's not quite the crime of the century that's it being made out to be. she's being held to a much higher standard frankly than any trump supporter holds the president to. who uses vulgarity all the time and is unapologetic.

>> when he uses words like it was a disgrace. the language she used. and this guy used the p word the c word. the f word. you name it. i retweeted a montage today of some of the profanity that he has used. you know what is really profane, i think kristin has it right. she's held to a double standard. and no one is clutching their pearls about what he has done. and said. what he's done is profane. what he's done is obscene. meaning separating children from parents at the border or putting kid in cages. that is what's obscene. this is rashida tlaib is reflecting the anger. i totally understand that. but i would love to see the president held to the same pearl clutching standards she's held

to. >> does it help democrats though to have a somebody who is just started in congress, and with all the concerns about impeachment whether or not it's good nor democrats or bad. or something they are going to pursue or not. coming out and saying that granted as you said it was a small event. but everything is video taped. >> until this happened, most people had no idea even who this person is. now everyone is acting like she's the leader of the democrat party and everything is law. she's one member of congress. she has an opinion. there are other members of congress who hold this opinion. and there's that's perfectly legitimate. she's not in the leadership of the democratic party and it's a right wing rage machine. and they're trying to put this attention on it and claim this is the plan for the democrats. when at this point it's not. i'm not saying it never will be.

but at this point it's simply not the plan for the democratic party and jennifer is right. what's so problematic a about this the things that outrage people. people who aren't offended by children being tear gassed at the border are offended by this. people need to take a step back and say what's really offensive here. i will say the president's potty mouth is the least of my concern about him. it wouldn't make my top hundred list of complaints about him. mine is policy. and even the p word incident that we had. my issue isn't the word. it's him talking about grabbing women. so it's not about being clutching pearls and being upset about potty language. >> can i just -- >> go ahead. >> i want to say win quick word about the impeachment question.

the swearing is one thing. my worry about it is i don't want to set up an expectation is what the house can do to bring impeachment charges will lead to the president's out ster. the call for impeachment suggests he's going to be removed from office by the house. that's not going to happen. you need the senate and a super-majority of two third. democrats need to wait for mueller. that's all i'm saying. >> appreciate it. ahead a lot more. if congress won't give hip the money the president is threatening to declare a national emergency. what he do that or could he? is it posing a threat to safety. and the stand off in washington next. add thousands of steps to your day. walking this many? that can be rough on pam's feet, knees, and lower back. that's why she wears dr. scholl's orthotics. they relieve pain and give her the comfort to move more

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