>> should ib have shared that? >> too late now. thank you. >> thank you. we really cannot resolve this until we open up government. >> i'm proud of doing what i'm doing. >> we told the president we needed the government open, he resisted. in fact he said he'd keep it closed for a very long period of time, months or years. >> absolutely i said that. i don't think it will but i'm prepared. >> all those things are already prebudgeted so ewhen you're not going to gt your next check can, it's like what do i do? ♪ this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christie ford. >> you are waking up to shutdown week three.

president trump says he'd rather call it a strike. >> it's not a strike but he says if a deal is not reached, it could last for months, even years. >> i'm very proud of doing what i'm doing. i don't call it a shutdown, i call it doing what yob have to do for the benefit and safety of our country. >> in a few hours vice president mike pence will host a meeting with staffers. this is in a follow-up to the meeting that started with a tirade from president trump. >> afterwards the president warned he could go around congress and build a border wall using military funding. with the latest with from the white house, what are you hearing about the 11:00 meeting, sarah some >> well, what we heard yesterday were very different outlooks

from leaders and from it the president in the situation room yesterday with democrats reiterating their demands while talks continue and the president saying he'd be willing to keep the government parlgtially shuttered until he gets funding for the border wall. and won't have the principals this time around. the president is reprising it demands for the $5.6 billion they passed in one of the last acts before the shutdown. and trump is showing increasing flexibility also as to what might qualify as a wall, suggesting he might not need the concrete wall he ran on in 2016 and he's now saying he's considered declaring a national emergency over border security to get funding for his border wall if he's not able to get it

legislatively. here's what he said yesterday. >> we can call a national emergency because of the security of our count ra, abb soloutly. i may do it. i may do it. but we could call a national emergency and build it very quickly. >> reporter: congressional democrats are already expressing their opposition. one threatened -- saying in a statement by abusing this authority president trump would be saying he does not actually believe all the money he requests for our country's defense is needed for legitimate national security purposes. that would raise questions about credibility when he requests his next defense budget from congress. he'd face head winds if he tried to proceed with this but there's not a lot of expectations for a big breakthrough because

democrats are showing no signs of moving anywhere closer to a compromise. >> thank you so much for the update. >> let's talk about this now with a senior political correspondent at the hill and author of "shattered." vice president mike pence is going to meet with congressional staffers on the hill. the president has undermined president trump twice. first when he said the president will sign this bill and he didn't. and say let's talk about 2.5 billion and the president said no, i want 5.6. what's his word worth when the president isn't in the room? >> well, not much from these two instances. but he's going there to sort of try come to some sort of compromise. i would think some people around

him want to make this happen. it doesn't look good for the white house ultimately. i think there are some white house officials who know this. no one is urging the president to do anything different. in fact the sources i've spoken to say they're holding firm and they don't want to compromise. but it will be interesting to see what vice president pence can do unthese sorts of situations and in this meeting. >> i want you to listen to the white house director of strategic communications. this was before the meeting yesterday between the president schumer and pelosi what she says could be on the table. >> would the president agree to a compromise that protect its dreamers and gives his money for a border. >> i think we have an opportunity to have these options. for our goal it is important to say that border security is key.

>> dreamers, d.a.c.a. on the table. we know when ann coulter wrote that op-ed about a gutless president and criticized him and others in the freedom caucus. he then pulled out of the funding deal. here's what anne coulter said about dreamers and d.a.c.a. >> i'd deport the dreamers before deporting ms 13 members. you can kept them. at least say okay, you got me. dreamers are all over. congress, the streets, tv, demanding, demanding -- how dare you wait before excusing our law breaking. no, i want those guys first. then we'll get the felons and the hard working illegal aliens doing the guarding and so. they're so friendly, they're such hard workers. but the dreamers number one.

>> if that's who the president is afraid of offending and of what she's going to say, how could a d.a.c.a. or dreamers deal be on the table? >> i don't think it is on the table. in fact anyone who knows about the meeting has said while it's arn idea in theory, it's not something that's plausible. democrats are holding firm to that notion too. of course they want a deal on d.a.c.a. but first we need open the government, then we can talk about d.a.c.a. later. and even president trump has said as much. let's get this wall built and then we can talk about d.a.c.a. both sides are in agreement that this can't be part of the agreement. >> before yesterday the it sumantic government was over wall, steel slats, concrete, fence, seethrough and reportedly he wants to call it a strike,

which is a very different thing. what do you gleen from the president wanting to reframe or recast this shutdown as a strike? >> he's trying to minimize it, obviously. to say this isn't as bug a deal as some people are making it. this has ramifications. this is going to -- he's going to start hearing from more and more republican law makers increasingly that say this is a problem me and my constituents. my constituents are angry about this. this is a huge chunk of the population. and so i think as this kind of carries on and ticks on, it's going to be increasingly prop lumatic and i think that's why democrats feel they have leverage at this point. >> so watts that's the argument? i just spoke on hr 21 which is the bill that would open and

fund through september 30th. if they could getting a ruculture, interior, h.u.d. and the rest back open. what's the argument for not bringing that bill to the senate? >> because department of homeland security is critical. b i talked to a source who said it's not up to snuff and they're concerned. a lot of people feel it has to include the department of homeland security to move forward. so i think they're holding on to that and seeing how much they can -- what they can build off that. >> thanks so much for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in another viewpoint. the it gop regional chairman for new york state.

so we just heard -- i want to ask you a question off of what amy was saying there. how long do you think the gop can support president trump in this before congressman and women in the gop are saying look, my constituents aren't going to take this much longer? >> when you're negotiating a deal, you can't tell the other side when you're going to finish negotiating because they would know when it's over and when you cave. so i think the president and it the gop have to hang strong in this endeavor. >> for the sake of their constituents? do you think gop' is going to -- >> it's a matter of national security. 89% of border security agents say it the wall would help

improve national security and i think that's what the american people ultimately care about. >> i want to listen to something president trump said yesterday about who he believes these people are that are dealing with the shutdown and what they support. listen. >> we can call a national emergency because of the security of our country, absolutely. i haven't done it. i may do it. i may do it. but we could call a national emergency and do it very quickly. i really believe that it these people, many of the people we're talking about rb many of the people we're discussing, i really believe they agree with what we're doing and most of those people that will not be getting their money in at this moment, in many cases are the biggest fan of what we're doing. >> do you know what evidence the president has to back that up?

>> that was his whole campaign promise and the reason he got elected. >> but how does he know the people who are suffering through this shutdown agree with him? what evidence is there that all of these people -- he said i really believe these people agree with him, that they agree with what he's doing? >> i think americans want to be kept safe and as i said 89% of border security agents say it's going to help with our national security. we're having huge problems because not only is this a national issue but a domestic security issue. ms 13 gang members commit heinous crimes in this country. >> we know there are people dangerous who come across the border and we know there are people are whoant dangerous coming across. year dealing with with week three of a shutdown.

there are people who can't afford rent, to buy food, clothes, to take care of children. so at the end of the day president trump hasn't had to live paycheck to paycheck. could there be a political vulnerability because of it? >> i sympathize with these people and honestly i feel it's irresponsible on the part of the democrats for passing the legislation on thursday knowing that senate and the president weren't going to vote for it and therefore government was going to stay shutdown for longer and these poor people are going to be out of work for longer and i think there needs to be a compromise? >> at the end of the day, democrats and republicans both say we need secure the border. is it up to the fooz come to the table to say let's agree on a number >> so the border wall would cost 5.6 billion. which is .16% of the government.

>> what happened to mexico paying for the border wall? >> yes, well president trump didn't say exactly how mexico would pay for the it border wall. they're pak they're paying in other ways through the beneficial trade >> if they're paying in other ways, why does he need taxpayer money? >> it would be more ben filgts to get it this way. >> he said he would bypass congress and declare national emergency and take money out of the military budge tot to pay f the wall. do you think other republicans are comfortable with that idea, knowing if you're taking money out of a military budget and something huge hans in terms of terrorism, whether it has goog

do with mex or not and now we've deflated the military budget, that could be a real crisis for us. are you comfortable with the thought that the president would take money out of military budge toot pay for this and bypass congress? >> the wall is a matter of national security and i think ultimately americans will feel safer at night knowing we have that border security. so to me it makes sense. but would i rathvrather have it somewhere else? yes. but ultimately it would be good for tu to have a wall. we're following breaking news out of southern california. at least three are dead and several others wounded in tor rns at a bowling alley. they say it there were multiple people with gun shot wounds

inside the building. >> a lot of people ran into -- back behind the bar area, under inbenches. people were crying. it was not comfortable. people were looking for their parents. you got mothers, fathers, sons, daughters. everybody's friends >> detectives are investigating the shooting and working to identify suspects, we're going to bring more information as we bring it. >> president trump and congressional democrats negotiate a deal or try to get close to opening up it the government fully. with no end in sight, a growing number of law makers are calling for a compromise. >> a also hundreds of tsa employees calling out sick. the effects that could have on your travel. (avo) life doesn't give you many

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two of the most powerful people in washington working to find an end to the government shutdown. both nancy pelosi and president trump will budge. there's a meeting, neither will attend. joining us now to discuss is democratic congressman and you have one of the highest concentration of federal workers in the country. thanks for being with us. so we know vice president pence will be meeting with staffers this morning in about two and a

half hours or so. the president said he has the option, he's thought about it, not doing it, yet or has not decided to do it to declare a national emergency and go around congress to build the wall. what's congress's recourse and what are you going to do potentially to stop the president if you can? >> this talk about declaring a national emergency is another example of the president throwing throwing up a flair to distract people from what should be a very focussed, steady, diligent process of negotiating and reaching a constructive compromise. i'm encouraged there are people sitting down today that are going to try to find a compromise but it needs to bolster security at the border, not just this obsession the wall we've been hearing over the last

three or four weeks. we've got to get the government open, we've but to get the federal workers aback on the job. let's have a sensible discussion about what makes sense to keep our borders secure. republicans and democrats in congress have reached compromise on this a number of times. it's the president who won't say yes to a solution here. so we hope that he'll do that in the coming days, we can get the government open, get people back to work, we can get decent border security and move on to other things he that need be on the ajndau. >> that's interesting because you say open the government and then we'll discuss border security, the wall. the last time you were on the show, december 23rd, 2017. and democrats were trying to get protection from dreamers.

and this is what you said about the leverage and strategy democrats would use to get d.a.c.a. protications. watch. >> i think important thing is the leverage we think we have when it comes to an ultimate deal on the budget and year going to be coming back to that in january, we still have that leverage, i think we're still going to press to make sure the d.a.c.a. situation is addressed. >> the leverage you had was the budget and we know the government was shut down to try to get the d.a.c.a. protections. it says republicans are resolute. no talk on d.a.c.a. until democrats give them enough votes to reopen the government. we could flip that. no talk on the wall until the president reopens the government. what's different from what the president is doing now and what you said is your leverage a year

ago? >> if this was a real discussion about border security instead of the president being stuck on idea of a wall, which is something that doesn't make sense, then we could have that kind of a leverage discussion. but the wall is a nonstarter. it's a nonstarter practically, in term oz of good pallacy. most americans understand if you want good border security, you need a combination of efforts. some physical barriers in some places. but there's a lot of other measures thad need to be taken. let's take that wall off the table -- >> the argument you just made before i play the sound bite was we should open up the government and then have the conversation. in 2017 what you said is we will use the it budget as our leverage to get what we want. >> what i said today is we can have a conversation about border

security as part of getting the government open, but not wall. the wall is not going to be a barging chip for purposes of opening a government because it's not a policy proposal that makes any sense. let's focus on the things that hopefully they're focusing on today in these discussions, which is things that can actually strengthen border security. but thes for the last three or four weeks, all he's been wanting to talk about is the wall. forget about the politics of it for a moment. as a policy matter, it does not make sense in terms of securing the border to put all of those g dollars behind the wall. >> in 2017 was pure politics. leverage, getting what you want and how you get there. >> but the leverage is there if policy and politic its match up,

then that's appropriate leverage. >> so you talked about border security. what type of border security will you support? >> well, look there's been discussion of how you strengthen investing in our border patrol and i have concerns because they don't have the resources they should. so we could put dollars into that. electronic surveillance. in some places fencing is appropriate and frankly there, are places along the border where you have that combination of measures. so let's look at what has been effective up to this point, put that on the table as part of the discussion, which is what the democrats have been doing. and by the way it's not just the democrats. as i say democrats and republicans have agreed on measures for border security. they put those forward. it's the president stuck on this

idea of a wall. >> you say there are places where the fencing is appropriate. so you'd be behind funding fencing? >> everybody's stuck on the semantics of this thing. smart border security is the standard. you want a standard of smart border security. barriers plus other measures that make sense. >> but there are areas where you would support extending physical barriers. they call it more fencing, would you support aitidditional moneyr a barrier? >> i bet you today in these discussions that are happening, i guess at the whiesz from congress from the white house and vice president pence, they're talking about hopefully

a combination that includes some physical barriers. they understand in some places you need that plus other measures. but this idea that all these billions are going to support a wall, that doesn't make any sense. that's not a good place to start if you're the president of the united states in terms of coming forward smart, sound policy to fix this issue of border security. so let's see where we land, let's get the government open so that these workers, including people in my district can get back on their job and serve the american people as they're sworn to do. >> thanks so much for being with us on "new day." >> thank you. there's manhunt going on for the gun man who killed 7-year-old jazmine barnes. >> you took my baby.

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office is receiving? they tell me tips have been flooding in but they are notredy to dus ciscuss any of the speci tips. they're working in coordination as this man hunt moves into its sixth day. and sheila jackson lee is calling on the federal government to share more resources. she has asked acting attorney general matthew whitaker to form a task force to further assist in the investigation. here's the information authorities are working with. you mentiond and showed that stretch. this illustrated by one of the top names in the forensics art field after speaking with jazmin's mother, particularly her 15-year-old sister, alexis, who said she looked right in the gunman's eyeses and this is who

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and what we anticipate to be an emotional rally later this afternoon in the walmart parking lot not far from where she was shot and killed. >> thank you. a big part of your government, the one you pay for, your tax dollars here is closed for business for the 15th day. vice president mike pence will lead a meeting latter this morning. you know the museums and zoos are closed in washington. but it's so much bugger than that and will likely effect you or something you care about. if this is the year you want to start small business, the agency is not processing loans right now. maybe you're planning for a major life event like getting married. congratulations but you may vato wait. and in just a few more days all federal courts would could be impacted because they're projected ton are out of money

january 11th. maybe you're in the middle of buying a house. depending on the loan your closing could be delayed. most workers are off it the job at irs. that's great except your refund is processed later than usual and if you're a farmer waiting on furtherer assistance because you've been dinged by the retaliatory terrorists from trump's trade war, you may have to wait longer. and it could delay a january report which farmers use to make plans for the rest of the year. >> the january port has a lot to do with 2018 production and acres and a lot of traders base a lot of what they're going to do on what the report tells us. >> and some environmental and food and drug inspections have ground to it a halt. and you've probably seen

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hundreds of transportation security officers who are working without pay are calling out sick. at least three major airports are being impacted here. a spokesman says security effectiveness will not be compromised and performance standards will not change. a cnn transportation analyst and former inspector general at the department of transportation. >> when you have this many out sick, you have to assume this is organized to some it degree, yes? >> well, one would assume but let's hope not and remember there's a lawsuit filed about the furloughs. someone would hope it's not to violate the employment standards of the federal department. but it appears to be so. i think people are going to find other work to temporarily pay their bills.

i went through a lot shutdowns including the longest in history with president clintm. keep your furlough money on hand. ford, clinton, carter, bush, regan. they all had shutdowns. but the tsa is relatively new. so a lot of people haven't been through a shutdown and they're not familiar with it. but this happens -- the clintsen one was five days followed by 21 days. but we didn't have it the tsa back then. airlines did airport security. >> do you feel security's going to be comp rumerchandiromised? >> certainly. when you don't have your full work force there and putting their heart into it, of korgs. a safe transportation system is what allows our nation to work.

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>> well, victor, this came during one of his tours in iraq when he had a clerical job and was charged and convicted for embezzlement, effectively. larceny was the charge totalling $10,000 and he was then -- he was then discharged with a bad conduct mark from had it marine corps. this was a time when he made a trip to russia. at a time when most vetsn ares, or now veterans would go home, he chose to go to russia and that was the beginning of a long-standing relationship between him andmany people in russia. he was a frequent visitor here posting on social media and according to russia news agency was caught red handed carrying sensesative information. there's been no conformation of

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well, ended the first week of 2019 in the pause itative where stocks were concerned. but it was a little bit of volatility to get there. >> up and down and up during december. the rally we saw yesterday or early part of the week was fuelled in part by the sdraung jobs report partnership here's more. >> reporter: good morning. 2019 kicked off much the same way 2018 ended with several triple digit moves boy ato the dow in the first week of the new year. investors are getting a mixed mesurges. a surge showed the economy remained strong. and a u.s. manufacturing index show activity grew in december but suffered a sharp decline. apple siting slow iphone sales

in china. its worst day in almost six years. from iphones to auto, global brands rely on china for growth. a slowdown in china puts their earnings at risk and the slow down could be take its toll on the u.s. economy. as a manufacturing reports shows a demand for american-made product could put a pause on the federal reserve to raise rate hikes. the u.s. econwaem a 312,000 jobs in december. the unemployment rate rose to 3.9% and that's because more than 400,000 people came into the labor force. and the fastest pace since 2009 and beat economists expectations. fed chief jay powell said the economy has good momentum and said the central bank will be

patient about raising interest rates. more flexibility compared to lasts month when the fed hiked rates. they lifted the dow more than 700 points. we got the firs reaction from powell. trump's constant complaints about powell have worried investors that he would try to fire the fed chief. but powell said he wouldn't resign if the president asked him to. >> all right. thank you. and in bouts two hours from now vice president mike pence will host a meeting in hopes of ending the government shutdown. will both sides be able to reach an agreement? >> more news is straight ahead. "smerconish" is next.

♪ i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and round the world. no sooner was the 116th congress joined in before the divide was laid bare, a congresswoman drarp dropping the "f-bomb" is it it a winning strategy for a house led by nancy