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her likely 2020 bid on the road. >> it's an america right now that works for the rich and the powerful. corruption pure and simple. "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm nia-malika henderson in for john king. to our viewers in the united states and around the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. we begin this hour with a stalemate. it's day 16 of the partial government shutdown, and although negotiationsorgoing, there are still no signs that either side is willing to relent. today president trump travels to camp david where he will meet with senior staff before meetings on the shutdown are expected to continue. saturday's session between the vice president, jared kushner, secretary nielsen and congressional staffers made very little progress.

here's what mick mulvaney had to say about it to jake tapper. >> i think the president said for a long time that it's $5.6 billion for border security, including the wall. we recognize that things like technology and border crossings are important but certainly a barrier is important. we didn't make much progress at the meet chicaing which was surg to me. i thought we came in to talk about terms we could agree on. they were there, in my mind, to stall, and we didn't make much progress. >> the president himself sat down at the negotiating table with democrats and republicans at the white house this week. and if he was wavering, he didn't show it. trump boasted to reporters about his role in the shutdown after that second meeting on friday. >> i'm very proud of doing what i'm doing. i don't call it a shutdown. i call it doing what you have to do for the benefit and for the safety of our country. you can call it whatever you want. you can call it the schumer or the pelosi or the trump shutdown. doesn't make any difference to

me. just words. >> democrats have seized on a claim from the president that this shutdown could reach a length of historic proportions. if you are one of the 800,000 federal workers without a paycheck coming later this week, this probably was not very comforting. >> he also said you said in the meeting, this is him quoting you. i just want to check. that the shutdown could go on for months or even a year or longer. did you say that -- >> i did. >> is that your assessment of where we are? >> absolutely i said that. i don't think it will, but i am prepared. it may get solved. it may not get solved. >> new house speaker nancy pelosi says beginning next week the house will pass individual appropriation bills to reopen closed departments but there are no indications the senate will be willing to take up those measures. here with me to share the reporting, maggie haberman of "the new york times," manu raju, eliana jngs of politico and "the

new york times'" lisa lerer. thank you for being here. happy new year to everyone. and what an auspicious way to begin this new year with this shutdown still ongoing. maggie, you've covered this white house, this president brilliantly and you in some ways are the trump whisperer. what is he thinking now? >> he's pretty public about where his mind-set is which is that he's feeling good about this because his conservative allies are telling him he's doing the right thing and in pretty blunt terms, your re-election depends on this. he's absorbed that. that being said, the news coverage is not good and the longer this goes on, the pain is going to be felt by a lot more people. it's going to become starker. we're already starting to hear these stories and that's the thing he does not like watching. while you saw him say last week in the rose garden, you can call it the trump shutdown, schumer

shutdown, the pelosi shutdown, it's just words. he's been made aware that that clip saying he'd own this is going to haunt him going forward and he's trying to pivot away from it. >> you talk about the impact. we've heard stories from folks weary about not getting paid and you look at the impact here. it's not just those 800,000 workers. farm loans. disaster assistance and tariff relief payments are on hold. irs audits, refunds and live taxpayer assistance are on hold because people are out of a job. folks who may be looking for those tax returns, those could be delayed. how do you see that impacting this president or negotiations, these stories coming out? >> well, look, the pain from the shutdown is real and only going to get worse if it continues into february. you've seen a number of economists saying if this continues on we'll downgrade our growth expectations for the economy. it's coming at a time when the stock market is turbulent.

a lot of fears around the economy. this is something that doesn't just affect this 800,000 federal workers. >> there's a ripple effect. >> and all these contractors. and some of those contractors are janitors or the cleaners in these buildings. >> they may not ever get paid. >> they're unlikely to be made hole. federal workers are generally made hole. contractors are not unless congress passes a special provision allowing them to be made hole. i spoke to a woman who has been a cleaner in the department of ag for 28 years. she makes about $600 a week. if this goes on to next week, she's extremely concerned about whether she'll be able to buy food. this is something that a lot of the coverage is focused on the back and forth and the politics of this, but this is having real impacts on people's lives. that's going to become more and more clear if this continues on into february. >> manu, the president already up and tweeting about this. not necessarily making news, basically just saying hillary clinton and obama voted for a wall before back in 2006.

where do things stand right now with this shutdown, the status update? >> two tracks happening. the talks happening between the white house officials led by mike pence and hill leadership staff that occurred yesterday. not much progress was made according to all counts. the white house came in saying they still want $5.7 billion for the border wall. of course, democrats say they will only give $1.3 billion. nothing to do with the wall at all. that shows how far they are on the policy. and also far apart on the process. democrats want to reopen the government first before even discussing all of that. and on top of that, democrats asked for a justification about why the administration wants that much money, $5.7 billion, $5.6 billion, around that number for the wall because they haven't done that yet. that's one track. the second track is nancy pelosi making a significant statement last night that they would move

on individual appropriations bills in the house starting this week. why that's significant is because people are feeling the brunt of this shutdown who have nothing to do with the department of homeland security, nothing to do with the wall, and the hope from the democratic side is this will increase pressure on senators, senate republicans, who are especially not wedded to the wall to move on the individual pieces of appropriation bills to open up federal agencies, put pressure on the president to either sign something, get a veto-proof majority. that's going to take some time to play out but that's the democratic hope and we'll see if %-pg another way he could possibly get his wall. here's what he had to say. >> we can call a national emergency because of the security of our country, absolutely. no, we can do it. i haven't done it. i may do it. i may do it. but we could call a national emergency and build it very quickly. >> we know this is a president who likes to say things and make

predi predictions and not follow through. how real is this idea he could get it done in this way? >> this is something that the president has raised a number of times privately. and we know this is a president who likes to test the limits of his power. he has asked the white house counsel's office about this, and previously, he's been told by his lawyers, you can't do this. the president's response to that is often, let them sue me. that's what he did in business and what he's wanted to do in the white house and what his aides have tried to prevent him from doing. whether they'll be able to prevent this moving forward is an open question. to laugh at the president's statement would be a mistake. we don't know what he's going to do. we've seen him tip-toe toward ways of getting out of this by funding this wall from getting money from other cabinet agencies or calling a national emergency. that's a way for him to get out of this situation. i think he's looking at that though we haven't seen him back down yet. i think he's looking at ways to

get out of this such as that moving forward. >> manu, one of the things we saw this week was some republicans starting to waver on this. susan collins, cory gardner basically saying is there a way to move ford look at what democrats have already done. do we expect more of that from republicans? it's been so infrequent we've seen republicans break from this president. >> as the weeks go on, that's the hope from the democratic side. mitch mcconnell is not going to put any legislation on the floor of the senate that doesn't have the support of this president but if his conference, a majority of his republican difference starts to push him to do that, that could change the calculus. we're nowhere near that point but we'll see how quickly we get to that point if the pressure ramps up. we saw seven republicans join with democrats to push legislation -- vote for legislation to reopen the government, besides the department of homeland security. that's only seven out of the whole republican conference. but again, the question is, how

does the calculus change the longer this goes on and people start feeling that back home. >> pelosi saying that congress has a role here and mitch mcconnell is ignoring it. >> i think what mitch mcconnell is doing, and i say this as respectfully as possible, is saying, we're not needed. congress might as well stay home. all we need is one person to show up. donald trump. and that's not what our founders had in mind. they talked about co-equal branches of government. article 1. the legislative branch. the people's branch of government. >> pelosi there in her new role saying to mitch mcconnell, step it up. >> he's in a tough spot. he's up for re-election in 2020. his party is tied very closely to the trump base, but he also has a bunch of these guys in his caucus up for re-election in states a little more, you know, battleground. like susan collins or cory

gardner. and that's why you've seen some of those people come out and make comments about, let's get this over with. let's move things forward. he's trying to navigate these conflicting political cross currents, and it's tough. one way is to kind of almost punt the ball a little bit. >> he's in a particularly tough situation, too. remember, it's his caucus that passed a bill that the white house had indicated the president was going to sign and then abruptly pulled out of that. so if you're mcconnell, and pelosi, it's understandable why she's pushing pressure on him. but mcconnell is in an uncomfortable situation because he's not going to rush to bring something up again. there are a lot of -- you'll correct me if i'm wrong here, but a lot of senators are not going to want to walk out on that limb again. this has been a problem repeatedly for republicans in both chambers of congress. they walk out on a limb and the president cuts it off. >> nobody in a more uncomfortable position than those 800,000 workers, some of

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down with ndp. nancy delesandro pelosi. the once and future speaker of the house of representatives. >> two words that capture the new dynamic in washington. madam speaker. after years of setbacks and disappointments, nancy pelosi is speaker of the house once again. she lost the speaker's gavel eight years ago in the tea party wave and beat back a leadership challenge that year. she faced another one in 2016 and another one this year, and she, of course, has been a target of gop ads. but pelosi survived it all and successfully reclaimed her spot as the first and only female house speaker. how significant is that achievement? let's take a look. she's very much in elite company as one of the few speakers to actually regain the gavel after losing it. hasn't happened since sam rayburn did it over 50 years

ago. in terms of the diversity in the house. women in the house particularly, 1987 when she first joined congress, just 24 women. now 102. you can see much of the gains are from democrats. 89 democratic women in the house at this point. 13 republicans. up from 11 in 1987 among republicans. more diversity in terms of race and ethnicity and lgbtq status. in 1987, 22 black congressmen and in 2019, 52. latinos from 10 to 33 in terms of democrats. largely flat lined in many of these categories among republicans. four asians. one asian in 1987 for republicans and in 2019, you can see a bit of a shift among democrats. nancy pelosi talked about this in her speech on thursday as she was reclaiming the gavel. >> two months ago, the american people spoke and demanded a new

dawn. when our new members take the oath, our congress will be refreshed, and our democracy strengthened by their optimism, idealism and patriotism. of this transformative freshman class. >> manu, on thursday you saw hakim jeffreys give that barn burner of a speech. he's probably the only one to quote the psalms and borrow from naughty by nature. talk to me about the historic nature, this moment for nancy pelosi. >> it's a significant moment. the first person in more than 60 years to reclaim the gavel after, of course, being -- losing the gavel after the republicans took control of the house in 2010, 2011. i think the really significant thing about this democratic caucus is the generational divide we're seeing. the top three leaders, much older than a lot of the younger members. a lot of people in their 30s and 40s coming in.

a big push for change in the caucus. she had to agree to only stay as speaker for four more years. there's going to be eventually a power struggle to succeed her. you saw hakim jeffreys and sherry busto, younger members. they'll be significant in going forward. but we'll see in the next two years a caucus that's dominated by nancy pelosi and who is going to go toe-to-toe with this president. so the change will happen in the long term. in the short term probably won't see much change because it will be about pelosi versus trump. >> here is what pelosi had to say about what this means for trump. >> i think and hope that we can work together in a positive way. >> do you think he deals with you differently because you're a woman? >> i have no idea. we'll see how he will deal with speaker of the house. i don't know if he knows how to

deal with women in power and women with strength, but we'll see. >> maggie, how ready is this president for this new dynamic? not only is he going to be challenged, he's going to be be challenged by nancy pelosi, a woman. >> he believes, and there are obviously reasons to question this strategy, but he believes that, number one, he does actually like nancy pelosi. in 2011 when considering running for president, one of the things that i wrote about is he had written her one of his sharpie notes when she had last become speaker and it was, nancy, you're the best, donald. and she had that framed. he stent it to her framed. he does think fondly of her. she's got a very different opinion of him. i don't think he's prepared for any of this dynamic. he has told himself he'll be able to work with her. the white house has tried, without success, over the last several weeks to divide nancy pelosi from schumer and drive a wedge between the two. it's underestimating the degree

to which they are close and overestimating the degree to which chuck schumer wants to have comedy with the president. so i think that we don't even know yet what this is going to look like because the shutdown is delaying a lot of the legal issues the president is facing with this congress. he's been warned, the president, by several people, it's going to get much worse. i don't think he has fully metabolized that because he hasn't lived through this. >> i'd add one point to that dynamic played out yesterday when trump, his delegation that he sent to negotiate over the shutdown was the vice president of the united states and his son-in-law jared kushner. nancy pelosi sent to aides and a former administration official said this is a case study of the new di tynamic where she basica gave him the middle finger. i'm not sure the president picked up on that. >> he will today. >> a petri dish study of what to

expect from nancy plos spelosi forward. >> i think people love to und underestimate nancy pelosi. >> didn't work very well -- >> she is a savvy negotiator. she's one of the few people in history to get this job twice. there's a reason she stamped down opposition to her getting the speakership before it happened. she passed this paygo legislation that was going to be fiercely opposed by the liberal, new resurgent liberal caucus. three of them voted against it. she's a savvy negotiator. you just have to wonder whether the white house fully knows what they're getting. >> i want to turn to something we saw on display thursday. the difference in the caucuses. a very diverse democratic caucus and a caucus on the republican side largely white and male. >> that's one -- when you talk to republicans, they recognize this is a big issue for them going forward. particularly for women, getting

women in the ranks and minority voters and showing a different face for their party. you notice that on the senate side they tried to make some changes to putting leaders, females in key positions. >> judiciary committee, ernst, blackburn, putting in joni ernst. they don't like that image of all old white men and they're trying to do something to change it. liz cheney in the house as well getting that position. so, you know, obviously they recognize this is a problem. >> and it's something they have been working on in some ways over the last 30 years. we saw those numbers. hasn't really changed much. up next, elizabeth warren starts her 2020 campaign in iowa with a populist message. when you have a cold,

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iowa caucuses are still 393 days out, but elizabeth warren is criss-crossing the state this weekend with a fiery populist message that is clearly her 2020 test drive. >> i'm here tonight because i believe. i believe in what we can do. i believe that this, right now, is our moment. our moment to dream big, to fight hard and to take back this country. >> clearly losing her voice there a bit in that clip but earlier this week, the democrat launched an exploratory committee for the 2020 race and

started adding staff members to her team. the reason she says she might run is not to oppose trump but because she wants to restore an economy that propelled her from a janitor's daughter to a u.s. senator but is now rigged against the poor and working class. >> pretty much all of my adult career has been spent around one central question. and that is, what's happening to working families in america? why has america's middle class been hollowed out? what's happening to opportunity in this country? why is the path so rocky for so many people and so much rockier for people of color? why has this happened in america? >> cnn national political correspondent m.j. lee is covering warren's debut. m.j., what has the reception been for elizabeth warren in

iowa? >> it's early and it's only january of 2019, but it is clear the people of iowa are ready for 2020. senator warren had more than -- around four events over the course of 24 hours criss-crossing the state. and at every event, it was overcapacity and as you pointed out, by the time she got here last night in des moines, she had lost her voice. obviously, this has been an important weekend for senator warren to make her first impression to the state of iowa, particularly because she has not been back in the state since 2014 and she really talked about the issues that are going to be core to her 2020 presidential campaign centered around the idea that washington does not work for a working class families but rather for big corporations. we've heard her talk about these issues over the course of her career in washington. she did also take a lot of questions over the weekend from the people of iowa. dozens of questions already. and one question that she got in particular yesterday was interesting. it was about her decision to

release her dna test to show her native american heritage. and the person asking the question asked her, why did you release the tests and give president trump more fodder to be a bully? here's how she answered that question. >> i am not a person of color. i am not a citizen of a tribe. tribal citizenship is very different from ancestry. now i can't stop donald trump from what he's going to do. i can't stop him from hurling racial insults. i don't have any power to do that. what i can do is i can be in this fight for all of our families. >> now what you probably couldn't hear there was when senator warren said i don't have the four stop the president from hurling insults at me, one

person got up and yelled out, yes, you can! this is going to be a fascinating dynamic not just for senator warren but for the other democratic candidates as they get into 2020. are they going to be the person that confronts the president directly, or are they going to be the person that doesn't engage the president because there are people who want the candidate to behave in two different ways that are clearly possible. and i think senator warren is going to have to figure that out. and the other candidates are going to as well. the final thing that i'd note, just an observation from over the weekend, is that there's one topic senator warren does not seem to want to engage and that's 2016. she was asked a number of times questions about hillary clinton and comparisons that are being made between senator warren and hillary clinton. and her campaign, she simply said she does not want to relitigate the 2016 campaign, and she also was reticent to answer any questions about hillary clinton or questions about what it means for senator warren to be a female candidate but this is not going to be the

last weekend that she gets that question. nia? >> that's right. democrats very much want to forget 2016 but i don't think voters will let them. lisa, you have seen elizabeth warren on the stump. i've seen her on the stump in the midterms. she's very compelling in these settings. you could hear a pin drop when i saw her down in atlanta when she was stumping for stacey abrams. what do you make of her maiden voyage in iowa? >> she's compelling and probably the furthest along of any of these three dozen, more than three dozen democrats considering running. she has an operation. she built a huge operation in the midterms where she had people in a lot of battleground states and early voting states, early primary states. she was able to bring them into the fold. she started an exploratory committee so early to employ those people. she's pretty far along and compelling on the stump but running for president is like doing nothing else you've ever done. so she's going to come up with a

lot of tests. the likability question was sort of the first one. i saw her this week in the senate and asked her whether she thought this was sexism. she didn't want to go into the issue. but that's something she's not going to be able to do this entire race. so there will be difficult situations that come up. a lot of people in washington were pretty dismayed with how she even -- some of her supporters, with how she handled the dna issue. she's going to be tested again and again. that's what running for president is. >> part of the likability came about when she released this video on instagram. >> hold on a sec. i'm going to get me a beer. hey. my husband bruce is now in here. you want a beer? >> i'll pass on the beer for now. >> you sure? so this is my sweetie.

he's the best. >> i love you. >> i love you, too. thank you for being here. >> i'm glad you're here. >> enjoy your beer. >> beer was said a lot of times in that clip. i don't drink beer. maybe that's how people talk about beer. but people thought it was a little odd and scripted and goes back to this idea of which politician would you want to get a beer with? that's the person who is most likable. >> we started hearing before 2016 and the thing about donald trump is despite the fact a lot of it with him is artifice, his voters saw him as authentic. what's ironic about this roll-out to me watching warren and it has look stilted and the dna issue was her supporters included did not feel it was handled well, she in 2016 was actually the person who was at the forefront of taking on trump in a way that seemed sort of effective. she was standing up to him.

clinton tried laughing at him first and then ignoring him. and then dealt with him very differently in the debates. warren had a series of scathing tweets and one or two interviews where she was taking the fight right back to him and that appealed to a lot of people. there's a chasm between that and then what we've seen here. a lot of this race for democrats is going to be about not just who can take the fight to trump but how you take the fight to trump. and with the sort of awkwardness of her roll-out shows democrats are still figuring that out. >> that's a calculus nobody has solved. democrats haven't figured out how to take on trump. part of what we'll see is a variety of ways of doing that. some will be successful and some won't. and if your wife offers you a beer, take the beer. bruce! >> lisa, you have a front page piece in "the new york times" this morning where you talk about the women question here. and you talked to dozens and

dozens of folks about this. and they are puzzling. democrats are puzzling over whether a woman will beat trump. this is part of what someone says. are we ready in 2020 for another woman? i really don't think we are said ms. cusack, a former democratic national committee member. but a record number women won races in the 2018 midterms. who won? who had the excitement? who had all the volunteers and power behind them? it was women. >> a lot of these concerns are grounded in post-traumatic election disorder which is that democrats are still reeling still two-plus years later over hillary clinton's loss and among very launch hillary clinton supporters, there's a certain sentiment that, well, she was so qualified. the only reason she lost was sexism and that's combined with a broader sense, a more widespread sense that women do

face higher bars and different bars to winning the white house. so those things combined along with this really great desire by democrats to beat president trump. have made some in the party nervous. the counterargument is, hey, look at the 2018 midterms. women not only won in greater numbers but powered those gains as volunteers, campaign managers and deserve representation. it's a debate the party has to resolve. >> bernie sanders struggled with this question. what his 2016 campaign meant for some of the women there. how is he handling that, and what's been -- >> not particularly well. i think there's still a lot of questions about what he's going to do differently. about these allegations that surfaced from the 2016 campaign. and questions about how much impact he may have if he does end up running in this race. will he be as potent of a force as he was against hillary clinton in this new environment? it underscores the fact this field is so wide open. the ultimate question for most voters will be who can beat

trump. electability will matter more than anything. and that's a question that's not been answered. >> the other dynamic here rests with trump which is that he made his brand in 2016 and still now, so much about strength, masculinity, our traditional notions of what they are. mike pence praising his broad shoulders. >> they were playing the gender card very much. >> and clear eyes. >> the size of his hands. all of that, right? >> absolutely. so how does a female candidate, if a woman wins the democratic nomination, respond to that? maybe using gender and maybe not. but i think it's a tricky calculation. >> and there will likely be a lot of women in this field, which is starting to take shape with the next couple of weeks. in the first days of the new congress, the house freshmen steal the spotlight. this is you. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis,

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the 116th congress is here. and democrats are eager to get moving on their goals for the next two years. listen to the new majority leader, steny hoyer describe his lofty list of priorities this friday. >> it brought stability to the affordable care act. it brought drug prices down and provided for retraining of our citizens to take 21st century jobs. it addressed climate change. universal registration of oversight of gun owners when they purchase guns. that we fix daca. and that we did a number of other things to make the lives of americans better. >> and that's just to name a few. the democratic wish list also includes strengthening the

voting rights act, tightening ethics and lobbying restrictions, holding hearings on medicare for all. unfortunately for the democratic leadership, some freshmen members have their own list of priorities. >> and when your son looks at you and says, mama, look, you won. bullies don't win. i said, baby, they don't because we're going to go in there and impeach the [ bleep ]. >> manu, you've got this divide here between what democratic leaders want the message to be and then what others want the message to be. >> rasheda tlaib campaigned on impeaching the president so no surprise she said that. >> donald trump has never heard salty words. >> exactly. it was a distraction democratic leaders did not want to be talking about on the first day impeachment. but these are issues bound to

continue to arise as we learn more about the mueller investigation and report. this is going to be the inherent divide. they want to project bipartisanship and cutting deals. what can they do to help the country and oversight and taking on the president. how do they bridge that divide and did they go too far? >> i want to go quickly to how pelosi responded to this. she said, no bigs. >> i don't think we should make a big deal of it. i really don't. that's probably the way people talk around -- again, i'm a grandmother and it's a different story, but it is -- words weigh a ton. and the president has to realize that his words weigh a ton, too. >> what did you make of pelosi's response there saying this is the younger generation? >> the democratic base wants impeachment. there are a list of 7 million

people who want to impeach the president. but just because you can impeach doesn't mean that you should politically, and i think this is pelosi and the house democrats have to walk a delicate line as they move through these investigations. but they will be under pressure from their base which wants to see movement here. >> in many ways, we heard president trump talk about impeachment, too. he in many ways wants to talk about impeachment. >> well, you can't impeach somebody that's doing a great job. that's the way i view it. nancy said, we're not looking to impeach you. i said that's good, nancy. you don't impeach people when they're doing a good job and you don't impeach people when there was no collusion. >> those are the only circumstances. >> and many people point out bill clinton had pretty high approval ratings when he was impeached. >> i was going to say, not exactly sure that house democrats will see it the same way as donald trump sees it. but, yeah, i actually think nancy pelosi will come under far

more pressure than she's under now after the mueller report is released. i think most democrats agree that they are going to take a wait and see approach. but pelosi is absolutely going to contend with pressure once that report comes out. if she doesn't think it's politically wise to impeach the president she'll have to make a heck of a case that the impeachment debate should take place at the ballot box in 2020 rather than in the house of representatives. >> we talked about the government shutdown. every day we're talking about the shutdown is a day that president trump would prefer because we're not talking about mueller and not talking about the russia probe. >> not talking about it until something happens. >> until something happens but it's all about short increments of time and moving forward. up next, mueller's grand jury gets an extension for up to six more months as investigations in the democratic-controlled house kick into high gear. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely.

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each sunday we ask our reporters to share a story or scoop they're working on so you can get a taste of tomorrow's headlines today. maggie? >> i'm looking at what it might take to get a deal to end this budget impasse. we've heard a lot of talk about how there could be some kind of a trade. border wall money in exchange for protection for dreamers. there are a lot of other issues that democrats want dealt with on immigration that is not the only one. specifically, they are very concerned about the efforts to ku curtail legal immigration and change asylum applications by the trump administration. as long as those are going on, they are a lot less likely to bend.

>> bad news there. manu? >> nia, democrats in the house want to give the mueller investigation a shot in the arm. the house intelligence committee, the chairman adam schiff plans in the coming days to have a vote to send the transcripts from all the witness interviews in the russia investigation to the mueller team. they believe several witnesses have misled their committee and they want the mueller team to look into it. roger stone's transcript has already been sent over but we expect the rest of them to happen in the coming days. that's hardly the only thing that committee and others on capitol hill plan to investigate. money laundering a big focus of adam schiff's. they are looking into money laundering. that's a focus he wants to look into. jerry nadler told me last week that matt whitaker is going to come forward as soon as this month. a subpoena is possible if they don't agree on a date because they want to hear about why he hasn't recused himself in overseeing the mueller investigation. his views of the mueller investigation. and on the senate side, a move

taken by democrats last week to try to stop a treasury department move to ease sanctions on three russian companies tied to that russian oligarch deriposkov. and congress just started so there's a lot more. >> the oversight starting to ramp up even as the government is shut down. or partially shut down. eliana? >> i'm looking at the administration's search for a new secretary of defense to replace jim mattis who left in late december. and it's not getting a whole lot of tracks. it will be interesting to watch. you can trace it back to the president's abrupt decision to pull american troops out of syria. that alienated not only mattis who stepped down but some other people who would previously have been top candidates for the post, including general jack keen who declined the president's offer to be sec def and senator tom cotton who has been vocally opposed for that. who interviewed for the job during the transition. other people like jon kyl,

retired arizona senator. so it will be interesting to see whether they can find somebody to permanently fill that role or whether it will keep this acting secretary of defense pat shanahan who has no previous experience in government. >> but trump seems to be pleased with him at least for now. >> he does. but because he has no previous experience in government, maybe difficult to get him confirmed in the senate. so it will be interesting to watch. >> we'll see where that goes. lisa? >> i spent this past week calling dozens of democratic voters, officials, dnc members about the 2020 primary. what was so striking is how wide open this race is. even when pressed, voters said we're just waiting to hear who is going to come out. they refuse to throw their backing behind someone. we haven't had a situation like this since at least 2004. in 2008 at this time more than 60 members of congress had already endorsed hillary clinton. so it's going to be really interesting to watch this play out. in part because the dynamics of campaigns have changed a lot

since 2004. do these small donors online have become a huge part of fund-raising. do they give to multiple candidates? we don't know how important these lists will be. they'll be important but how quickly can you build up a national presidential list? it's going to be really interesting tests of this new environment and it's a race that i suspect, based on what i was hearing this week, to remain unsettled for quite a while. >> speaking of 2020. elizabeth warren has had the spotlight all to herself over the last week. next week that will change, at least a little. senator kamala harris is set to release her book, a memoir called "the truths we hold" and followed by an appearance at a university near washington. to the extent the democratic voters know harris, it's mostly through her tough questions from various senate hearings. with her book tour, voters will get to know more about senator harris the person. progressive voters might be looking to hear more about harris' time as a prosecutor

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♪ feeling the pain. day 16 of the federal government shutdown. and president trump says it could go on for years. >> if we have to stay out for a very long period of time, we're going to do that. >> as hundreds of thousands of workers go without pay, is either side close to making a deal? we'll talk to acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney next. border wall battle. democrats take control of the house and make clear they're not budging on the president's top priority. >> we're not doing a wall. we are not doing a wall. >> do red state democrats feel any pressure to compromise to reopen the government? alabama senator doug jones is here in minutes. and taking the house. as democrats prepare to use their new power, passions among new members are already boiling over. >> we're going to impeach the [ bleep ]. >> with house leadership preaching caution, will the fight over impeachment divide democrats? we'll ask the man leading investigations into the president for the ho