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the partial government shutdown showdown. a fight that won't end. the u.s. president and speaker of the house at a total impasse over the battle over a border wall. and israel launches another round of air strikes into syria, saying they are iranian targets and warning damascus not to retaliate. >> plus, did you look up in the sky? did you get to see this? a super blood man makes a spe spectacle over north and south america. with the only total lunar eclipse this year. very cool. >> very. >> we are live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta, and we welcome our viewers here in the united states and all around the
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world. i'm george howell. >> and i'm rosemary church. "cnn newsroom" starts right now. the positive news here, republicans and democrats are set to vote on separate measures to reopen the government. the reality of things, though, there is no expectation that this standoff will end. >> yeah. president donald trump attacked house speaker nancy pelosi sunday for rejecting his offer to extend temporary deportation protection for children of undocumented immigrants in exchange for his border wall funding. the senate is expected to vote on the president's plan while house democrats are set to vote on their own measures. >> recent polls show that most americans blame the u.s. president and republicans for this partial government shutdown. >> some view president trump's offer as an attempt to shift the political pressure to the democrats. sarah westwood has details now on what each side is proposing.
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>> reporter: president trump on saturday rolling out what he described as an attempt to break the logjam that has dragged this partial government shutdown on for a month now. the democrats started rejecting the president's proposal before he even announced it. now, the president's proposed deal would involve him getting $5.7 billion in funding for his border wall in exchange for a three-year renewal of daca protections for those young undocumented immigrants known as dreamers as well as a three-year extension of temporary protected status for the roughly 300,000 people who are facing the expiration of their tps. house democrats, though, are saying they won't do any negotiating until the government is reopened and they have their own plan to get the government reopened this week. they plan to pass a package of six spending bills that will include $1 billion for border security in general, not for the construction of a wall. one thing that democrats and the
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trump administration do seem to agree on, however, both proposals do include money for more immigration judges. president trump on sunday going on a tweetstorm about speaker pelosi accusing her of being beholden to her left flank. and that's why he says she's unable to accept his proposal. trump also defending his deal against criticism from the far right with some conservatives accusing him of extending an offer of amnesty. but the bottom line is that this is not a new idea. president trump trading daca for wall money is something that's been tried and failed before. and at the moment it does not appear to have a path forward on capitol hill. sarah westwood, cnn, the white house. >> let's bring in james davis to talk more about this. james, the dean of the school of economics and political science at the university of st. gallen joining this hour from munich, germany. a pleasure to have you on the show, james. >> good morning, george. >> so despite the back and forth between the president and the house speaker, nancy pelosi, the
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partial government shutdown continues on. democrats flatly rejecting the president's proposal to reopen government. who would you say has the stronger hand in this present tug of war? >> that's the right question, george. we're in a tug of war. the president has himself between a rock and a hard place. the longer this thing goes on the more he loses support among mainstream america. but if he compromises too much with the democrats he's going to lose the support of his hardcore base, which already is fearful he's going to cut a deal that grants amnesty to illegal aliens. so he's got himself in a difficult position. at the same time the democrats have to ask themselves at what point will the public just become fed up with both the congress and the president, with both democrats and republicans and say, you know, a pox on both of your houses? so there's a tug of war going on here. right now i think the democrats have the upper hand. the president is boxed in. but the interesting thing is the
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ball has been passed a bit to the senate. mitch mcconnell has been absent for most of this shutdown. people have been saying where is mitch, where is the senate majority leader? he's now agreed to take up trump's plan and try to put it into legislation. the house is going to pass their own legislation. and we may now see that the more interesting negotiation takes place between the house and the senate. >> i want to push forward on a topic you raised here, the proposal. it is being criticized on both sides of the political spectrum. democrats flatly don't want it. some to the far right criticized the president's proposed temporary protection for dreamers and immigrants. as you mentioned a play toward amnesty. vice president mike pence purk back on that notion. but by even putting it out there, how badly does that hit the president with his base? >> well, we've seen people like ann coulter, spokesperson for the hard right base, already claiming that the president is putting out a plan for amnesty. she's the one that more or less
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convinced the president to back away from a deal that we had that would have kept the government open. so we see that the hardcore right is -- you can't placate them. they want the wall. they think that trump ran on the wall. and any move away from the wall considered by them to be a breach of promise. the question that trump is going to have to ask himself is how much can he alienate his base to get a deal? and he's going to have to get a deal because the democrats are not going to give him 5.7 billion. i think somewhere down the line we're going to have to split this down the middle. the democrats are suggesting that they're going to put another billion on the table. i think that brings the total to something like 2.5 billion for border security. at some point the president's going to have to take that and claim a victory. >> so in the middle of it all, though, you have more than 800,000 federal workers now one month into being furloughed or work without pay.
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like this man we spoke with who works at a prison in the united states. listen to his story. >> now, i get it. a lot of people say, you know, you're going to get backpay, you're going to get the pay later. but at this point, you know, that's not what we signed up for. you know, we signed up for to protect the american public and to keep the inmates safe and keep staff safe. and to keep delaying our checks, you know, and having us in the middle of this, it's not right. >> that is an opinion in west virginia. very important to the u.s. president. we're talking about proud american workers doing whatever they can now to survive this uncertainty. their face along with daca recipients and immigrants all tied up now in these negotiations. how far do you think this goes before government leaders feel the pressure to put politics and personal wants aside to find solutions for these real people that are dealing with a hellish situation? >> well, you know, as long as it's the 800,000 federal
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employees we can all feel sorry for them, we can contribute to food banks and hope that their lives aren't destroyed. but the minute it starts to impact on normal americans who are not part of the federal government, i think the pressure goes up dramatically. think about the traffic -- air traffic controllers. think about the security guards at airports that are all going to start staying home. think about when services stop being provided to average americans, whether that's weather reporting, whether that's security at the airport, whether that's other essential services. americans are going to start to feel this even if they're not a member of the federal government. and that's i think when the pressure really starts to rise. when average americans feel the impact of no government. and i think that's what both sides are fearing right now. >> i guess what you're seeing is as more people start to feel what resonates beyond these 800,000 americans who simply
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don't know when they'll be paid next -- >> that's right. they're working for us. let's not forget. they work for us. they provide us services. and when we start to feel the absence of those services we're going to start to complain. >> again, we appreciate your time today in giving us perspective. thank you. >> thank you, george. british prime minister theresa may is facing a nur hurdle in the sprint toward brexit. in just a few hours from now she will lay out her brexit plan b in parliament. but now lawmakers are trying take more control over brexette negotiations. >> and cnn has learned that a group of growing cross-party parliament members is planning to introduce legislation that would make it impossible for britain to leave the eu without a trade deal in place. that would mean possibly pushing back the brexit date beyond march 29th. >> uk trade minister liam fox warns parliament that taking over brexit would jeopardize democracy. >> you've got a leave population and a remain parliament.
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parliament has not got the right to hijack the brexit process. because parliament said to the people of this country we will make a contract with you, you will make the decision and we will honor it. what we are now getting are some of those who were always absolutely opposed to the result of the referendum trying to hijack brexit and in effect steal the result from the people. >> and cnn's anna stewart joins us now live from london. good to see you. so prime minister theresa may unveils her plan b just a few hours from now. what's expected to be revealed? >> reporter: yeah, she'll give a statement to the house of commons later today. sxif to say, the concern is that plan b looks a lot like plan a. we're expecting her to make a statement along the lines of she will try to find an amendment to the irish backstop, some sort of concessions there. but she has been trying to do that for weeks. now, some have suggested perhaps she'll try to strike some sort of bilateral agreement with ireland, but anything like that will require the consent and support of the eu.
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so i think a lot of her critics today will be wondering how this is any different, why she wanted a cross-party support and talks with other mps from other parties when plan b looks so like plan a, rosemary. >> meanwhile, as we reported, a group of lawmakers from both parties now joining forces trying to seize back control of brexit. how will that play out when mrs. may faces them in parliament in just a few hours? >> seize control of brexit and of the narrative of today. i think a lot more attention will actually be on these rebelions within parliament p there are two key amendments that are likely to be tabled this week. one as you said by a cross-party group of mps essentially trying to outlaw a no deal brexit. if we got to the end of march and no agreement had been reached in parliament and with the eu then it would compel the government to extend article 50, push that back. the other amendment, more radical still. this one by an mp with the
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party, also former attorney general dominik grieve. his amendment would allow just 300 mp support, not a majority in parliament, to force a vote on different types of brexit, whether that's a norway brexit or even a second referendum. essentially this would overturn centuries of parliamentary precedent. that's a real key one. but yes, essentially what we're seeing here is lots of reb rebelions, different fronts across parliament trying receive crows of the brexit process, rosemary. >> nearly 8:15 in the morning there, anna stewart bringing us the very latest in just a few hours. we will know more. many thanks to you as always. >> this week a few thousand of the world's richest and most influential people will come together in davos, switzerland at the site of the world annual economic forum, the world's most high-powered networking event. many of the good and great are already there. some notable no-shows as well this year. let's bring in cnn's emerging markets editor john defterios in davos. a veteran there of course.
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definitely there for us to tell us about what's happening. and john, certainly some of the no-shows. we know the british prime minister will not be there. and also the u.s. president. >> reporter: yes, george, it's a bit unusual because the bar was set so high, particularly with president trump who was promising to come for a second year in a row. last year at this time he was bragging about the first year in office and the stock market rally. and concerns about what he had against u.s. trade policies and the very firm line with china and the european union, as you suggested, theresa may not coming because of her plan b that anna was talking about. so let's take a tally of who's in and who's out right now. a notable in for wednesday, angela merkel, a familiar face here at the world economic forum. and also shinzo abe, who's an ally in fact of donald trump, the prime minister of japan. also, jarro bowles naro who's known as the donald trump of south america, the heaved
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brazil. donald trump and theresa may but also emerson man nag wa. the leader of zimbabwe. he wanted to come to davos to show that after years and years of being closed and hyp hyperinflation, but he has protests on the ground in zimbabwe to he sanitied to stay there. president macron of france not attending because of the yellow vest movement. we've seen protests in germany because of the hard right. the five star movement in italy, jornl, as well now in power. the hard-liners in greece. i'm waiting to hear what chancellor merkel has to say about the rise of populism and how the european union responds. and even an olive branch yet again to britain to try to stay in the european union and remain flexible on theresa may's plan b. this will be a very important position for angela merkel as she fades out of power after so many years in germany as chancellor. >> you talk about the rise of populism. also, john, walking through some of the people who are there,
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some of the people not attending. overall, what is the mood, would you say, of davos 2019 so far? >> key point, george. because we're ten years into the economic cycle. and a lot of kengss on the ground of what's next, particularly the second half of 2019. we're going to get an update from the international monetary fund in five hours on its economic outlook. expected to be lower because of the trade tensions i talked about particularly between the u.s. and china. in fact, china put out its worst performance now in nearly tleel decades. 6.6%. it sounds very good, but this is an economy that's growing 9% to 10% for years. expect a slowdown. the international monetary fund signaled the high level of public debt coming into this meeting particularly by the developed world and even the emerging markets, the highest debt levels since the 1980s, which means if we have a financial crisis what's in the toolbox to combat it? you would think this rise against globalization is the
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prevalent tone in davos, but there's a survey done by the world economic forum that suggests that's a radical minority and perhaps overall there's an embracement of globalism. let's take a look at the survey from the world economic forum. 76% in fact think that globalization is indeed a good idea. 72% think that it's important to actually help other countries right now. and the last one i thought was particularly fascinating. 57% believe migrants are mostly good. there's a caveat to that. that number's closer to 40% to 45% in europe depending on the country because of what's been taking place with refugees and migrants coming from africa in particular. angela merkel a couple of years ago welcoming in all of those syrian refugees. so it's a very sensitive issue yet again, but the world economic forum and the platform of globalization 4.0 suggesting the majority wants this but we do need to manage it and make sure the boat is full for everyone going forward, george. that's the central theme here. >> interesting insight to get that from you.
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john defterios for us in davos, switzerland. and john, of course we'll stay in touch with you as events continue there. >> we'll take a very short break here. but still to come, israel has launched more air strikes in syria. what led to the latest fighting? and a live report from jerusalem. we're back in just a moment. t-mobile knows dancing is better when you include a partner. singing is better when you include a friend. and unlimited is better with a phone included. it's true. forty bucks with the other guys, doesn't include a phone. so, start the new year right. join t-mobile and get unlimited with a phone included for just forty dollars per line.
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russian state media report that at least four syrian soldiers were killed. israel says it was targeting iranian forces. but it also hit syrian air defenses after they tried to launch missiles. the video from the israelis purports to show an attack on a syrian site. >> israel says the strikes come after iranian forces tried to launch a rocket at the golan heights from syria. the israeli military tweeted out this video and said the rocket was intercepted by israel's iron dome system. and for more, cnn's oren lieberman is live in jerusalem. he joins us now. what were you learning about circumstances surrounding these air strikes? and of course what is happening right now?
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>> reporter: rosemary, let's take this back to where this all began on sunday morning. we just got more information from the idf, the israel defense forces, which is the israeli military. this starts on sunday morning when israel launches on targets innia. that strike is called out by both the russians and the syrians. and then in a fairly rare move is ak or apparently acknowledged by prime minister benjamin netanyahu on a trip to africa. that strike according to both both the russians and theians is intercepted. it is after that, and this is sunday afternoon, when israel says iran launched a medium-range surface to surface missile from near damascus international airport toward the northern part of the israeli occupied golan heights. that in the video you just saw is intercepted by israel's iron dome aerial defense system. israel's response is to target a number of iranian forces, or what they say are iranian forces in syria, both at damascus international airport and in the area. israel says they targeted
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munitions depots, intel sites as well as a number of other sites. israel says they conveyed to the syrians a message that this is specifically going after iranian forces but when syrian air defenses fired at israeli aircraft israel then targeted they say those syrian air defense bat risz in and around damascus. that brings us to now. the israeli military remains at an elevated of eadiness in northern israel. the ski site in the golan heights has been shut down but other than that they say northern israel and in the golan heights. >> the worry is how is russia a
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and. >> putting on their social media the russian military saying this was an israeli strike. certain number of missiles intercepted, a number hitting their target, killing four syrian soldiers according to the russians and injuring a number of others. it's a delicate moment what happens now and what happens next. does syria or iran choose to respond at this point? it's difficult to say but we will certainly keep an eye on how this develops. we've seen these sorts of escalations before, notably last may, and then last february last a year ago exactly. and it is the russians that have stepped in to try to ease the tension here. we'll see if that happens once again. russia apparently already playing an active role between syria, israel and iran here. >> oren liebermann joining us live from jerusalem. thanks for bringing us up to date on that story. appreciate it. >> the topic of syria was also discussed between the u.s. president and the turkish president e. recep tayyip erdogan. on the phone on sunday mr. erdogan said that turkey is ready to take over security in
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syria's manbij without delay he says. turkish state media report he also repeated his stance that the ypg, a u.s.-backed kurdish militia-s a threat. >> the white house says the two leaders agreed they want a deal on how to handle northeast syria after a u.s. withdrawal. it also says mr. erdogan offered his condolences for the four americans killed in an attack in manbij last week. the issue of brexit. if that were not complicated enough, a car bomb attack in northern ireland. it's stoking fears that if there's no deal a hard border might spark a return to sectarian violence in that region. we'll have details on the story ahead. plus former nissan chairman carlos ghosn's legal troubles are focusing attention on japan's legal system which some are calling hostage justice. we'll take a closer look when we come back. i'm a veteran
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my name is antonio and i'm a technician at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. you're watching "cnn newsroom." it is good to have you with us. i'm george howell. >> and i'm rosemary church. let's check the headlines for you this hour. >> republicans and democrats are set to vote on separate u.s. border security measures this week but neither is expected to win enough support to end the government shutdown. so it lingers on. the u.s. president attacked the speaker of the house nancy pelosi for rejecting his latest proposal, which still includes border wall funding of $5 billion. israel, russia, and syria all say the israeli military has launched strikes into syrian
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territory. israel says it's targeting iranian forces. russia says syrian forces shot down israeli missiles. russian state media also report that at least four syrian soldiers were killed. outside the greek parliament on sunday police say some 60,000 people came together, people who are furious about the renaming of a neighboring country as northern macedonia. the greek parliament is expected to vote on the name change in the coming days. in the meantime police were seen using tear gas as some demonstrators hurled projectiles outside parliament. british prime minister theresa may will explain her brexit plan b to parliament monday. a leading pro-brexit politician is accusing lawmakers of trying to hijack britain's ex--it from the eu. cross-party groups are planning legislation to delay or frustrate the prime minister's plans. a labour party mp says they are only trying sort out "a mess."
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an incident that has been described as terrorism in northern ireland. police suspect the new i.r.a.i.a militant group, may be responsible for a car bomb that exploded on saturday. four men have been arrested so far. no one was hurt when that bomb blew up in londonderry, also known as derry. now police have released video of that very powerful explosion. >> and here you can see the car parked on the street in front of the courthouse when it detonated. politicians from all sides of the political spectrum are slamming the attack as callous and pointless. they say no one no northern island wants a return to sectarian violence. well, many people in northern ireland are worried about how brexit will affect the border with ireland. keeping an open border is one of the ways they were able to make peace after the decades-long conflict known as the troubles. >> now the issue of the irish backstop is making it hard for the british prime minister to make a brexit deal.
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our nic robertson filed this report from derry earlier this week to explain what the backstop means for people in derry and beyond. >> reporter: in a few months' time this could be the eu's land border with the uk. it's giving rise to the most contentious issue in brexit, the backstop. when i say backstop, what does that mean to you? >> backstop means basically it's an insurance policy that theresa may and the european union have taken out. >> reporter: in the simplest form the backstop keeps the border between northern ireland and the republic of ireland open. both the eu and the uk say they want that. but the eu insists the backstop is part of the deal in case the two sides can't get an agreement. >> whatever's going to happen, it's going to impact on the city more than any other part of the uk. more than any other part of the eu. >> this city. >> this city because we are the
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biggest population center, which will be on the uk on the border with the eu. so whatevers going to happen good or bad is going to impact the most here. >> reporter: we are in northern ireland's second largest city, londonderry, also known as derry. a few miles in the border with ireland. from the 1960s to the '90s derry was at the heart of northern ireland's deadly sectarian violence. 20-something years ago i heard right here catholic teenagers rushed up here to fight pitched battles here with the mostly protestant police. 1998 peace deal has made all that feel like ancient history. but that's what the backstop is about in part, to prevent a return to that sort of violence. >> is it going to work? >> it better. >> because? >> i don't know what it's supposed to be like if it doesn't. this place will go back to what it was 25, 30 years ago 37. >> you mean the violence. >> yes. >> reporter: concerns are growing that backstop is
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blocking brexit, could bring backboarder controls. >> what would happen if there's a no deal brexit and -- to the border? >> does it mean i have to show my passport or something to go down? i don't know. i was told maybe you'll have to show your passport or have a visa to go down over the border to visit family. >> i don't think the man on the street has any idea what's going to happen, especially with businesses. i'm working for a company that does a lot of cross-border trade. and so they are particularly worried in terms of taxes going back and forth going over the border. >> what would you hope for with the border yourself? >> we would obviously hope it's an open border. especially in this area. there's always been a strong relationship because we're a border area. so we would need free movement. >> it's very worrying. i don't know what the future's going to hold for myself, for my family, and especially for my children. >> reporter: the trouble for theresa may is she needs the support of northern irish mps who oppose the backstop. it makes them feel less british. and so far she hasn't found a
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way around it. nic robertson, cnn, derry, northern ireland. >> nic, thank you. the former ceo of nissan, carlos ghosn, says he will respect any bail conditions, that is, if he's granted bail. this according to a statement from the jailed auto executive. >> he's been in jail without bail since late last year accused of financial misconduct. as cnn's will ripley reports, that's raising questions about japan's legal system. >> reporter: if anyone knows what ex-nissan chairman carlos ghosn might be going through, it's mark carpelas. like ghosn, carpelas is a french businessman in japan who made his fortune and lost his freedom accused of financial misconduct. >> i wouldn't want this to anyone. >> you wouldn't wish it on anyone. even your worst enemy. >> even my worst enemy. even humanity's worst enemy. >> reporter: carpelas was a multimillionaire by age 30,
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owner and cref mount gox, which was the largest bitcoin exchange in the world. until half a billion dollars of the dlijts currency van rnd, a crime that remains unsolved p after his company went bankrupt, japanese police charged carpeles with embezzling $3 million and with breach of trust, the same charge as ghosn. >> there's a very big feeling of powerlessness. whatever you do, there's nothing you can do. >> reporter: carpeles, who's repeatedly denied the charges, kept detailed notes of nearly 12 months in japanese custody. he says police interrogated him for 50 days straight, up to eight hours a day, without his lawyer. it may sound mind-boggling to many, but this is perfectly in line with japanese law. >> the more you try to deny being guilty, the harsher it gets. >> reporter: closing arguments in his trial ended last month.
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the verdict is expected in march. carpeles continues to insist he's innocent. but legal experts say more than 99% of people charged with a crime in japan are eventually found guilty. temple university professor jeff kingston calls that deeply troubling. >> that system of hostage justice i think does not braer scrutiny. where they keep people who are indicted in detention as long as it takes to coerce a confession out of them. that's what explains the 99% conviction rate. >> reporter: international attorney shuji yamaguchi says that criticism may come from a misunderstanding of japanese culture. he says japan's system keeps people safe. the country has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. >> our system supporting our society. and still crime rate is going down every year. so i think our system works very
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well. >> reporter: do you see things changing here in japan anytime soon? >> in near future, no, i think. >> reporter: ghosn's wife wrote a letter slamming the japanese justice system as draconian. "no human being should be detained under conditions so harsh if their only plausible purpose is to coerce a confession," she said. the tokyo prosecutor's office tells cnn they don't make the law, they enforce it. and the investigation and int interrogation are conducted appropriately, in accordance with the law. prosecutors say they would never prolong the detention to harass suspects. when asked about the conditions in detention, they said, "we believe they're treated fairly." as proof tokyo detention center officials invited the media inside sxwrp if y inside. >> if you could pick one word to describe it. >> loneliness. >> loneliness. >> yeah. >> reporter: carpeles spent seven months in solitary confinement before he was granted bail. he remembers every detail of his
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six square-meter cell. he says he was forced to sit upright in a corner for some ten hours a day. >> i hope animals are treated better than this. >> you hope animals are treated better than you were. >> yes. >> reporter: treatment he says ghosn may have to endure for a very long time. waiting for prosecutors to build their case, knowing all too well the odds are not in his favor. will ripley, cnn, tokyo. we heard from the native american in this standoff with a high school student. now welfare the student's side of the story. we'll have the details after the break. ♪ thanks to move free ultra 2in1... i keep up with this little one. see the world with this guy. and hit the town with these girls. in a clinical study, 4 out of 5 users felt better joint comfort. move free ultra. movement keeps us connected.
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dozens of mourners showed up remembering the blievz of victim victims. >> later in the day officials announced the death toll had climbed to 85. at least 58 people were injured. the tragedy happened as people were trying to steal fuel from the pipeline. well, activists are calling on zimbabweans to stay at home and not go to work after a bloody government crackdown. the unrest was sparked last week after authorities said fuel prices would spike by 150%. president emerr whyson mann gag wa says it was ment to ease fuel shortages. >> since then security forces have shot at least five people and killed them, wounding dozens of others. the president was meant to be at the world economic forum in davos this week. he said he will now skip that event given the protests. we're hearing more about the tense standoff in washington that led to a video that went
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viral. >> you may have seen the video of the teenager standing face to face with a native american elder. as sara sidner, the boy says he's being misrepresented in that video. >> reporter: we did receive three pages of comments from this young man. his family sent it out. and here's part of what he says. and obviously, with these viral videos there's a lot more to them. there's always a story that goes along with them that happened before and after something like this happens. and we have viewed video that gives a better, bigger picture of what happened leading up to that face-off between the student and the native american elder. here's what was one part of the statement from the student who was standing there face to face. he said, "because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group. our chaperone gave us permission
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to use our school chants." now, he is referring to the nasty things they were hearing, not from the native american group but from a group of black men who call themselves the hebrew israelites. and we are now going to show you some video of exactly some of the things that they were saying to the students and others. new video emerges in a story that has gone viral between catholic school students and a native american elder named nathaniel phillips. phillips found himself surrounded by students, one staring him down, the others chanting around him, as phillips says he was trying to create calm between two groups at odds. >> i realized i had put myself in a really dangerous situation. you know. it was like here is a group of people who were angry at somebody else. and i put myself in front of that. and all of a sudden i'm the one who's -- all that anger and all
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that wanting to have the freedom to just rip me apart. >> reporter: this video shows what happened long before phillips shows up. you can see a group of about five black men who identify as hebrew israelites preaching. they start taunting people of all colors. other black visitors, natives, and a catholic priest. >> a bunch of child molesting [ bleep ]! >> reporter: this is the moment that group becomes aairwaft students, some wearing make america great again hats. >> you've got these pom pos bastards come down here in the middle of a native rally with their dirty-ass hat on. >> reporter: at first the catholic school students are there in small numbers, but more and more students begin to gather watching, with few weighing in. the small group of men continues taunting them. >> a bunch of incest babies. this is what america makes. make america great looks like.
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>> reporter: the students begin to react but do not approach the men. the black israelites continue to condemn the kids. >> you worship blasphemy. we got angels. >> reporter: then one of the students takes off his shirt and the group begins chanting. two minutes later you hear a drumbeat. that is phillips and another native american drummer. he says it was an attempt to thwart potential violence. the kids danced to it and some begin chanting along with the native song. but for those who think they were enjoying each other's company, phillips says that is not at all how it felt, especially because of the student standing before him. >> fear not for myself but fear for the next generations. fear where this country's going. fear for those youths. fear for their future. fear for their souls, their spirit, their -- what they're going to do to this country.
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>> reporter: now, in the student's statement he says that he is now facing fear that he is receiving death threats as is his family, and he talks a little bit more about what happened during that interaction saying that he never interacted with the protester, that he did not speak to him. he says, "i did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. to be honest, i was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. i believed that remaining motionless and calm i was helping to defuse the situation." and he goes on to say, "i harbor no ill will for this person. i respect this person's right to protest and engage in free speech activities, and i support his chanting on the steps of the lincoln memorial any day of the week. i believe, though, he should rethink his tactics of invading the personal space of others. but that is his choice to make." so you are now hearing the other side of this story. you're hearing from the student who has been at the center of all this, saying that from his perspective he was the one being
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calm and he was the one that was getting the aggressive threats. of course you also heard from the native american elder who said he was actually trying to calm the situation down too. the people who seem to have started all this are the ones making all those racist threats and screaming at these kids. and those were the hebrew israelites. >> sara sidner, thank you. a total lunar eclipse and a super moon both in one night. there it is. together forming a rare phenomenon. details on the super blood wolf moon ahead. mucinex cold & flu all-in-one. fights... ...sore throat, fever, cough, sinus pressure, chest congestion, headache, nasal congestion, body pain... all in one. did you really need the caps lock? get tough on cold and flu symptoms. mucinex cold and flu all-in-one.
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take a look at this. a rare sight overnight. for sky watchers. it is called a super blood wolf moon. and it happens when a super moon and a total lunar eclipse occur at the very same time. these images were shot earlier from los angeles. >> as you can see, the super moon was eclipsed by the earth's shadow and the sunlight passing through the earth's atmosphere helped to turn the moon's color a blood red. let's talk more about this now with david reitzel. david is an astronomical lecturer joining us this hour from los angeles. pleasure to have you on the show with us, david.
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>> thank you. nice to be here. >> so david, tell us more about why the name and what's actually happening to the moon as we watch it? >> well, what we saw tonight was a total eclipse of the moon. the moon moved into the earth's shadow, which blocked the direct sunlight from falling onto it. now, it's known as a blood moon because some of the light from the sun passes through our atmosphere and actually the blue light gets scattered out. same reason our sky is blue. but the red light like all the light from the sunrises and sunsets makes it to the moon gives it a reddish hue, which is why we call it a blood man. that's what was going on tonight. we had a buhl view of it from los angeles. >> you could see it in l.a. our whole team went outside. our cnn team went out to see the moon for ourselves. worth every moment of it here, though it was freezing cold in atlanta. you could see the red on the moon. you could see it right there up in the sky. it was amazing to watch.
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how could people see it around the world? how visible is it right now? >> right now the moon has moved out of the deepest part of the shadow. it's just in the penumbra. for about another half hour or so, 35 minutes. it's very difficult to see that. so there's not too much left to see of the eclipse. but everybody that was on the half of the earth that could see the moon tonight got to experience the eclipse. we even got a report from our director, dr. krupp, who was in the norwegian sea, who managed to see it. all the way over outside of norway there. so folks all over the globe were able to see this eclipse. >> how rare is this sort of thing to see, and what's the next big event that we can look forward to up in the sky? >> oh, gosh. we won't have another eclipse for more than two years. so i know that. the next big event, gosh, i know there's going to be some meteor showers coming up. the geminid meteor showers will be coming soon i believe. i have to look it up online and see.
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we don't have any eclipses coming for quite a while, which is why we made a big deal about this one and really got people together-h a huge crowd on our lawn. people really celebrated it. i have to look on my calendar to see what's up next. >> i would imagine it was a little warmer there for you guys to watch it in l.a. than here in atlanta, but it was worth every minute to get out and see this thing. david reitzel. >> at the beginning of the night we were a little worried about the clouds. the temperature dropped a little, but it was nothing like atlanta for sure. it was well above freezing. so it was quite nice. >> david reitzel, we appreciate your time today. thank you so much. >> oh, you're very welcome. thank you for speaking with me. >> and if you missed it, we all posted it on insta. >> i think the photos from l.a. look better. >> thank you so much for being with us. i'm george howell. >> and i'm rosemary church. "early start" is next for our viewers here in the united states. and for everyone else stay tuned for more news with our max foster in london. you are watching cnn. have yourselves a great day.
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