appropriated specifically for associations like life and death. they consider this one of those security situations. >> in the shutdown, they have to go quickly, there is a lot at stake. thank you very, very much. to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. erin burnett "out front" start right now. mueller is looking at trump's ties to the nra. the same connections to russia that have been under scrutiny in congress. plus the senate is about to vote on two bills as 800,000 workers are hours away from missing another paycheck. is it all for show in the student with the viral stare down with a native elder speaks out. let's go out front. good evening, i'm erin burnett. "out front" breaking news investigation, cnn learning mueller is digging into trump's ties to the nra. it's a significant development this hour. since we no ethe nra has been under scrutiny for months because of its ties to russians.

the nra, the group spent $30 million on trump's campaign. >> that is a staggering number. it is more than the nra spent on all political races combined in 2008 and 2012. it's a love that trump returned. >> they're actually great people. >> this is an amazing group up. >> they're great people. great people. >> one of the fra's most scrutinized ties is to the russian you see on your screen, maria butina. she has already pled guilty to conspiracy of the united states as a agent on rmpblt allegedly infiltrating the nra. the same woman was somehow selected as the first questioner to candidate trump. she asked about his intended relationship with russia at a rally in los vegas. >> i am visiting from russia. >> ah. putin, a good friend of obama, putin. he likes obama a lot. go ahead. >> my question, if you would

likely be the president, what will be your foreign politics especially in a relationships with my country and do you want to continue the politics of sanctions that are damaging both economy or you have any other ideas? >> okay. obama gets along with nobody. the whole world takes us. i believe i would get along very nicely with putin. >> the big question tonight, was russia more than going to the nra with the purpose of electing trump? back to that $30 million staggering number. keep in mind, foreign nationals are prohibited to contributing to any election activity in the united states, if russia money was funneled to help trump, it's a huge deal. then there is this. if it happened, did donald trump know about it? sarah, what have you 11ed about what mule -- learned about what mueller is looking at? >> reporter: because of all the money it spent on the 2016 election as well as ties to the

russian nationals. this is really the first indication that we're getting that the special counsel wanted to know more information about the early trump campaign's ties to the nra and learn this through sam nunberg, a former trump campaign aide. he was told he was asked in his 2018 interview to explain a little more about how trump came to build these ties with the nra. how he ended up speaking at the 2015 nra meeting before he became an official candidate. even as a month ago, mueller had more follow-up questions about this. what is not clear is whether this is a deeper dive by robert mueller into questions like the nra's finances, whether they may have had some kind of russian money funneling through them to help trump or whether this is an exercise to check the books to make sure they've covered all of their bases about things talked or speculated publicly. now the nra did not respond to our request for comment today. they previously in some letters

they shared back and for with lawmakers, denied they used any foreign money for election-related purposes. this story specifically, the special counsel declines to comment. we should note when president trump got that list of questions that mueller wanted him to answer, there were no questions about the nra. so at least they're not asking trump about it at this point. >> sarah murray. thank you very much. i want to go out front to the member of the house ways and means committee. i appreciate your time, listen, the nra, the $30 million is staggering. they've so far said they have received contributions from more than 20 russians. but they say these weren't a big deal. they added up to a little more than $2,500. not 30 million. do you believe them? >> no the nra, of course, here in congress, so intertwined with the republican party and the trump administration, that it really means no republican

action when it comes to gun safety. but $30 million. they had a big investment as vladimir putin had a big investment in seeing donald trump elected. >> when the nra says they do not use russian funds, which would be against the law. do you believe that russia was somehow using the nra or involved here to funnel money to help elect trump? does it go that far, in your view? >> it certainly could. it needs to be thoroughly explored. i hope the special prosecutor or special counsel is doing just that. it's clear that putin cared enough they dispatched the woman you just mentioned who is in jail right now as an agent to try to connect better into the nra and we don't know what her role fully was. there's just such incredible irony that the nra would link up with a putin, who restricts gun rights and claim that they're promoting gun rights. >> of course, you know, she has pleaded guilty as we said to

being an agent of russia. right? and conspiering against the united states of mempblth. >> that's right. >> last year, congressman, when the house was under republican control. democrats said republicans aren't allowing them to investigate. whether the nra funneled money or not, in this issue, are you going to investigate this particular issue now? >> i hope that will be done. any investigations that occur here need to have a specific purpose that does not interfere with robert mueller's work. and i think the most important thing we can do right now is to ensure the protection of his work, his work product, eventually gets to this congress and to the public. but at some point, i think this does need to be thoroughly investigated. so you have been very outspoken about other things as well, including, right the trump administration's lifting sanctions against russian companies. i want to ask you about a "new york times" report. they are saying there is a

binding confidential document that they've seen which shows a deal between the trump administration and putin confident, oligarch, and basically the administration says we will lift sanctions because he's flashing his stakes in these major aluminum companies, in particular. he will no longer have control the "new york times" says that's not so. i hear le will be relieved of personally hundreds of millions in dote debt and his allies will come the majority of that company. they said this was going to be punitive for him. it looks like this document is the opposite, according to "time's." >> i think the document, which i have here, as well as the letter that accompanied it both show there was a problem here. i got involved in this last summer three days after the helsinki surrender by trump to putin. they dug out of thousands of exemptions that were being

sought mostly by american companies and pulled out one for rusele and gave them one for trump's tariffs. they eventually withdrew that. now they're focused on sanctions relief. it concentrates on doing as much as possible secretly and as fast as possible. they told congress about this as we were departing for the christmas holidays. i visited personally with the secretary of the treasury and asked that there be an extension. we have asked for additional time for a thorough review. what we need to do is to have an intelligence assessment, classified assessment that determines whether mr. daraposka still has effective control of this company. the control was to change russian conduct. not to change things to help a thug like darragh poska. >> you say you have seen this document. what is in it that shocks or surprises you?

am i accurate in this description? confidential document, that shows him losing hundreds of millions in debt relief? what else is in there that's important for us to know? >> i think it shows, raises a question of him having effective control of this company. you know, he spent half a million in the last six months hiring a former republican senator in his lobbying firm to try to influence the administration the congress and foreign ambassadorles. and i've got that document as well and it's interesting that the company that represents that is lobbying for mr. darragh poska mentions that 48% control of one of his companies by another is effective control. the treasury set this arbitrary number that as long as darryl poska didn't own 50% of the stock, he handed out some of it to his banker. to his former wife and other relatives and his own trump-like foundation. as long as he didn't have 50%,

he didn't have effective control. we disapprove this in the house. the senate meets the to disapprove it also. mcconnell into evidence to stop blocking it. we need that intelligence assessment to find out is there another trump favor for putin or is this a legitimate transaction? it certainly looks like a sordid deal to me. >> certainly giving shares to your ex-wife, with whom he has a very tight financial relationship would not be losing control. i mean, the treasury secretary steven mnuchin, let me put out a statement. you said the sanctions would severe his control. those were the words you spoke with the president of the united states recovery you'lling the recommendati -- over ruling the staff. you are saying it will severe. you are saying it doesn't. do you want him in front of congress to testify to that? >> i do. he has been invited this thursday. i hope he comes. he's been asked to extend time

so we can have a thorough briefing on this. if he is right. if this does accomplish this objective, why not permit a reasonable period of time to have a classified, independent, intelligence assessment through the cia and other intelligence organizations to determine, will he still have effective control in putin's russia, or is this a truly independent relationship? i doubt that it is. i think this is just helping putin, who was trump sliding another gift under the putin christmas tree. >> all right. i appreciate your time, thank you very much. we should point out darryl poska for years has not been able to get a passport to the united states except when he was passed as a member of the diplomatic core. rudy guiliani in a head scratching new interview. they are at this point. what exactly is he talking about? plus, hours from a crucial deadline, 800,000 workers will miss another paycheck if the government does not reopen

tonight. if it has been announced they have a deal. we are learning there are two scheduled votes at the senate. does either one matter at all? and president trump is inviting the students at the teen of the center of the staredown speaks out. >> as far as standing there, i had every right to do so. yeah, uh...for the team... the team? gooo team.... order online pickup in an hour. hurry in and save on tax software. at office depot officemax man 1: this is my body of proof. woman 1: proof of less joint pain... woman 2: ...and clearer skin. woman 3: this is my body of proof. man 2: proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis...

woman 4: ...with humira. woman 5: humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. humira is the #1 prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. avo: humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. woman 6: ask your rheumatologist about humira. woman 7: go to mypsaproof.com to see proof in action. woman 7: go to mypsaproof.com turn up your swagger game with one a day gummies. one serving... ...once a day... ...with nutrients that support 6 vital functions... ...and one healthy you.

that's the power of one a day. ♪ ♪ our new, hot, fresh breakfast will get you the readiest. (buzzer sound) holiday inn express. be the readiest.

[indistinct conversation] [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪ ♪ i have... ♪ new tonight, rudy guiliani telling our dana bash plump is quote in the pits with him.

several people close to trump are exasperated with rudy guiliani's mess with russia. it comes with the new yorker, in which he suggested trump's conversations about trump tower moscow are on tape. okay. so this is how the exchange goes, rutd disays, i have been through all the tapes, techs, e-mails. and i know and i knew none existed. he's referring to proof of the timing of discussion. the new yorker then asks, wait, what tapes have you gone through? >> guiliani, oh, i shouldn't have said tapes. >> the new yorker tries to clarify. so there were no tapes you listened to? >> guiliani, well, i listened to the tapes, none of them concern this. this is the trump tower, the conversations specifically involving donald j. trump. out front now, the former u.s. attorney with the southern district of new york and white house correspondent for urban networks april ryan and reporting from the trump lines white house, harry, there is

tapes, no tapes, there's tapes, tames but not about trump tower moscow. obviously, now he's telling cnn, i'm talking michael cohen tapes. they weren't about this, they were other conversations. what is going on? >> i really don't know. can you have the two theories, one is crazy like a fox. this is somehow intended to distract people from other things and create a circus-like atmosphere with making statements and retracting them. i tend to think it's not that. that deliberate and that it's just somebody who isn't asking the first question that you have to ask in defense work or really any legal work. before you do something, how does this help my client? you who is this advancing the ball? if it's not advancing the bahama, don't do it, stop talking. i don't understand how he is doing this. >> how is this advancing the ball in rudy guiliani has said a lot of things to which there appears to be no strategy. in part, because they are catching someone out for being a

liar, explicitly the president of the united states, right? so he said the opposite of trump, one of them was a liar. it was trump on the stormy daniels payment. that's been proven. we don't know which was lying with russia or how long trump was involved in those negotiations for a potential trump tower in moscow. let me just play this for you. >> they said maybe donald trump is involved in projects with the russians. the answer is no no. >> the president can remember having conversations with him about it. the president also remembered. >> 2016? >> yeah, probably up to, could be up to as far as october, november. >> there is no collusion between me and my campaign and the russians. >> i never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaig campaign. >> fun emed through the law firm and the president repaid it. oh, i didn't know. he did? >> yeah.

>> okay. april rudy now says that mr. president has no problem with him. the quote was he had not pitched with me. could all of this be purposeful, a strategy? >> you know, i don't know what it is, but i can tell you this. you just laid out a great -- this is not fake news, this is real. this is a pattern of things that rudy guiliani has said on tape and the things the president said on tape. the bottom line is he may befriendly with the president. but my sources are telling me that the attorneys that are working with the president in the white house, that inner circle, they're frustrated with rudy guiliani and they don't know how to tell the president. >> that simple. then they are also feeling that rudy guiliani is unhinged as he is jeopardizing the president's case by saying one thing one day and saying another thing the next. rudy guiliani should stop talking. we have been saying -- i have been saying it over and over again. as a lawyer you are supposed to

sit back and wait. he's trying to play to the court of public opinion. but he's putting his client in jeopardy. >> after the bombshell from guiliani, i just love it. as i say it, i love sean hannity. oh, oh. okay. yep. all right, so trump tried to downplay the comment as guiliani making mistakes. when that incident happened. because he was new and couldn't know everything going on. let me play it. >> rudy is a great guy. he just started a day ago. but he really has his heart into it. he's working hard, he's learning the subject matter. rudy knows it's a witch hunt. he started yesterday. he'll get his facts straight. >> rudy is great. rudy has just started and he wasn't totally familiar with you know everything. >> that was 263 days ago, harry. >> yeah, that excuse no longer washes. and as april was saying, there are other lawyers working for the president. some of them are outside of

government. and many are inside of government. we know from reporting that more than a dozen new lawyerings went to work at the white house counsel's office, some of them are very talented. one is a former colleague of mine. those are really the people who should be directing the strategy. if guiliani is, he should stop talking. >> yet, he told the new yorker he is not concerned if people called am liar. the magazine says do you ever worry this will be your legacy, does that ever worry you in anyway? to which, guiliani says, greatly, i am afraid it will be on my gravestone, he lied for trump, if it is, to what do i care? i'll be dead. now he's trying to clarify right away those comments, april to our dana bash, wait, he's not lying for the pvt.. then he said the gravestone could say that. it is confounding. >> it is confounding the back and forth continues on his own

legacy. the rudy guiliani that we knew at 9/11 is no more. okay. we could put a tombstone there. we don't know this person. this person, according to, again, to the president's lawyers and attorneys who are dealing with this russia stuff, they are feeling that he is quote/unquote unhinged. >> that itself word i am getting. they are very concerned because this is putting the president if jeopardy. again, they are here to tell the president. rudy guiliani, he just needs to be quiet. the quieter he is. the silence can be deafening. it can also save his client. i'm not trying to give rudy guiliani any tips on how to be a lawyer for the president of the united states. but any legal expert would say, be quiet. he is showing himself. >> of course, it's scary. the carry thing are you saying is people are scared to go to the president and tell the truth and say what they think. it's one of the biggest problems he faces. next the senate prepareing

on two bills. as 800,000 people are getting ready for no payment as well. are these bills a waste of time? plus, presidential hopeful elizabeth warren taking on trumped a his signature project. >> make no mistake. this wall is dumb. when i book at hilton.com i get to select my room from the floor plan... free wi-fi... ...and the price match guarantee. so with hilton there is no catch. yeah the only catch is i'm never leaving. no i'm serious, i live here now. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee.

book at hilton.com yeah right. iand the earth is flat. ahhh!! treat your cough seriously with robitussin cf max. nothing lasts longer and treats more symptoms for your cough, cold and flu. robitussin. because it's never just a cough. dad! hiding when i was supposed to be quitting. i thought, i should try something that works. i should try nicorette. nicorette mini relieves sudden cravings fast. anytime. anywhere. nicorette mini. you know why. we know how.

with expedia, i saved when i added a hotel to our flight. so even when she grows up, she'll never outgrow the memory of our adventure. unlock savings when you add select hotels to your existing trip. only with expedia. it's easy to move forward when you're ready for what comes next. at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan to cover the essentials in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do. and on the way, you'll get timely investment help to keep you on the right track, without the unnecessary fees you might expect from so many financial firms. because when you have a partner who gives you clarity at every step, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward.

tonight, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and majority leader chuck schumer have announced they will take two votes. this is about the shutdown. one vote will move ahead on the president's plan to fund the government that. means he gets his $5.7 billion wall in exchange for some daca protections the ones he had tan away. the other bill will be to move forward the house democrats passed to reopen february 8th. so here's the problem, for these to do anything. they need 60 votes to pass. is there any chance of that? phil mattingly is out front from capitol hill. what's the answer to that? >> reporter: at the moment it looks neither will pass. that's taking a survey, looking at the bare reality as it

currently stands. if you look at the chamber, there are 53 in the senate, 43 democrats. the republicans will need seven democrats to come over and support the president's proposal, with i democratic leaders and rank of file has panned as not a compromise at all. not on the table. democrats will need at least 13 republicans to join them and what their proposal would do is essentially reopen the government until february 8th and open some opportunity to have discussions on border negotiation and security. here's the issue for republicans. we talked about this before, erin. the president opposes that plan. >> yeah. >> reporter: if the president opposes it, some, three, four, republicans are willing to break with the president. the vast majority is not. the idea that 13 could break or you want a veto proof majority you will need seven, eight, nine, ten or more of those. that's not a reality. the biggest question is twofold. one, is the president going to change his mind the next couple of days? it seems like, no in that case, both of these fail. if they fail, does that serve as

the trick tore bring people to the table and actually have a discussion, a real discussion we haven't seen for days, maybe even weeks. right now, we don't have the answer to that. >> thank you very much. i want to go to democrat trick political commentators for us. you heard phil, unless the president really changes his stance, they're not going to pass. so it seems from that perspective to be a waste of time while federal employees literally, they don't get the go ahead by mid-fight, they can't issue fees paychecks for friday. so we will miss another pay period. >> yeah. well it's not. i don't think it's a waste of time. at least they're voting on something. unfortunately, these are procedural votes. it allows that 60-vote threshold to get through. okay, you have the president's plan, you need seven democrats to vote for the president's plan, which includes the $35.7 billion, extension of da

california all those things the president talked about. then the other bill is the house bill that was passed. >> that only opposite up the 25% of government that was shut down until february 8th. so we're going to end up. even if that passes, are you in the same place again on february 8th. so at least they're taking a vote. but again, this is not. i've spoken to my colleagues. my friends on both sides of the aisle. there isn't one person that is actually seeing these things, seeing that actually pass the 60 vote threshold. >> so keith, given that, is this a waste of time or no? >> i sort of agree with mia, actually. in that i don't think it's a waste of time. only because they're doing something. they're making progress. however, it does also come as a reflection of the fact that mitch mcconnell has been in control of the united states senate for the past 32 days of the shutdown and has not allowed any of the nine democratic house bills that have passed to reopen the government to be introduced

on the senate floor. he's been the bottleneck that's prevented any sort of action on this, by now introducing legislation, it's showing the fact that he could have done something all along. he failed to do something. i think that's a reflection of the fact that he's and kafted his leader of the senate majority. >> so if this doesn't happen. even if you get a government reopening before the state of the union, they will be close to it at this point, mia. the white house says, that's okay, we're going ahead with our plans the secret service says it's okay. we will go through our walk through. the adviser is saying the idea of rally is being discussed. something we snow action jen for the president. should he bag the state of the union, go out, do his message at a rally? is that a good idea? >> i don't think it's a good idea. look, the american public is suffering. they need to know what the plan is. they need to know. they need to hear from people. we have to stop the posturing. again, think about this there are some my former colleagues

saying, look, $5.7 billion. if you think about it, you know, we're willing, as long as we get the $5.7 billion, we're willing to pretty much talk to speaker pelosi about anything. anything is on the table. it's going to be above, below that threshold. they see it as a, you know, this is nothing compared to the 867 billion dollar ad bill that the farm bill that they pass. also, the two bills include a little over $12 billion in disaster funding also. they're a lot of the colleagues i spoke to today who feel like $5.7 billion. let's start talking about this. >> yeah, go ahead. >> except that republicans had control over the united states congress of both chambers for two whole years and did nothing about this. and now suddenly, after republicans have lost control of the house, it becomes the crisis. if it was such an emergency, they should have done something

before. secondly, you got the fact that the american people voted on this, in november. they voted on which side they are going to support. they have voted against the republican and now this is effectively a coup that the republican congress is orchestrating to overturn the will of the american people. >> wait. one minute. i need the make sure there was a little correction there. because when i was in the house of representatives, we had a really good comprehensive immigration bill. >> that actually helped families on the border. as a daughter of parents that immigrated to this country. immigration was won of my top priority. i actually went against my own leadership to get these bills on the floor. unfortunately with temporary protective status, a pathway to citizenship for daca recipients and protect at the borders, we didn't get any support from the minority at that time. so i think again this is something that actually can be fixed. speaker pelosi can come to the table and ask for whatever.

i just want it done. there are people that are literally there saying, let's get rid of, if the leadership can't fix this, let's get together on our own and see if we can push a vote that will open up government. >> that would be interesting to see, talking about a coup. >> all right. thank you both. next the governor known for being the first to legalize marijuana. my guest, john higenlooper. is he toured run for president? plus the teen in that viral staredown is speaking out as president trump invites him and his classmates to the white house. it's absolute confidence in 30,000 precision parts. or it isn't. it's inspected by mercedes-benz factory-trained technicians. or it isn't. it's backed by an unlimited mileage warranty, or it isn't. for those who never settle, it's either mercedes-benz certified pre-owned, or it isn't. the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. now through february 28th. only at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer.

i am not for just treating my symptoms... (ah-choo) i am for shortening colds when i'm sick. with zicam. zicam is completely different. unlike most other cold medicines... ...zicam is clinically proven to shorten colds. i am a zifan for zicam. oral or nasal.

at panera, we treat soup differently. with vine ripened tomatoes, signature cheddar, simmered to perfection. with big flavors, not artificial ones. enjoy 100% clean soup today. panera. food as it should be. when cravings hit, hit back. enjoy 100% clean soup today. choose glucerna, with slow release carbs to help manage blood sugar, and start making everyday progress. glucerna.

new tonight the dumb wall, elizabeth warren campaigning if puerto rico. >> now make no mistake. the wall is dumb. but it serves the president's purposes, turning people against people, particularly against people of color. and stirring up the fear and hatred he so actively promotes. >> warren is one of a crowded field of close to ten candidates on the democratic side. more are about to jump in. john hickenlooper term limited out. he is joining me here tonight. glad to see you again. >> glad to be back.

>> you announced a trip to a way. what would make you stand out? it is a crowded field, a diverse field, what would make you stand out if you jump in. >> i think i'd look at it from a prospective, i'm one of the few if not the only candidate who is actually able to bring people together worn in conflict, you know, they're feuding and get them to put down their weaponsing take the time to hear each other and hear goals and their willingness to compromise. >> you have done that on infrastructure and marijuana. >> and methane regulations. >> you have done -- look, you were a two-term governor. when are you going to make a decision on this? >> you journalists are always so impatient. i hope, march, we spent a lot of time working on it. we're trying to make sure to make the right decision once. >> so march, so let me ask you about something that i know you are thinking about. are people who have jumped in

early have already gone on an apology tour for a sense of things they have done in their past. here's a few. >> i realize that things i had said were wrong. >> from my past, i said many things that were wrong. >> bottom line is the buck stops with me and i take full responsibility for what my office did. >> i know we haven't always gotten things right. but i've always tried. >> so one of the items that is a huge part of your legacy as governor. right. a lot of people know you is the legalization of marijuana. your state led on this. this was five years ago. is there anything you regret about it? >> we were against it. we were worried about brain science of slivers of young people's long-term memory. this high thc, marijuana is very dangerous. so we had to put in a system. even though i opposed it to give it a right to work.

states are the laboratories of dreams could we made a mistake? i could have been on those pictures saying we should have gotten on top of edibles sooner, more quickly. we should have been out ahead of the emergency room issues where people were taking, you know, a brownie would have 8 doses of thc in one brownie and the customer didn't know that, or it wasn't clearly marked. we figured that stuff out. that's a part of a laboratory. you don't get anything right. >> you don't regret it overall. it was the right decision as to where this country is going, you do believe that? >> i think if you look at it, many of our worst fears haven't happened, no demographic has seen an increase in consumption, except seniors. i leave that. can you make your own decisions about that. >> when it comes to teenagers, we talked about this before. there are surveys, we don't yet have the formal data on crucial thing, whether there is a long-term iq. >> i totally agree with that. i will tell you in terms of the amount of consumption and

frequency. we survey every two years north of 20,000 people and a large chunk of them are kids. that's a big sample. i think we feel fairly secure there is not a spike. >> that makes up for the methodology. you wrote three years as your final year as governor. whether people with autism can use medical marijuana, tasting rooms and also investment restrictions on pot. has the national push gone too far? are we moving too fast? because this will be a big question for if you you run. >> we look at it and the tasting rooms, when we changed our constitution to legalize recreational marijuana, it was explicit that this wouldn't be out in the public consumption. the autism issue, clearly there are many people who have autism of all ages who marijuana helps them. but we hadn't finished. we had another year's work of testing it. when government legalizes a pharmaceutical drug of any kind, we are basically taking that

step and saying this is not going to harm other people in this population. >> you weren't ready to do that. before you go, i want to ask you this. one of the biggest issues in your part you will to answer is whether they should mover ahead and impeach president trump. today, former secretary of state john kerry said this. >> he doesn't take own of this seriously. he doesn't have the ability to have that kind of conversation. >> what would your message be? >> resign. >> okay. >> resign? >> that's i think wishful thinking. at this point with the government shut down, all these issues around the dumb wall. you look at it and say, it's brinksmanship, it's behavior typical to a very young child trying to get attention. children don't usually resign from the arena. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time tonight, next, farmers who voted for trump feeling the pinch from the

government shutdown. do they still back in? sour bill weir on the ground. plus the man seen in this viral standoff between the american elder and that teenager standing out tonight. >> my position is that i was not disrespectful to mr. philips. i respect him. i'd like to talk to mg. alright, i brought in ensure max protein... to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. (straining) i'll take that. (cheers) 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. ensure max protein. in two great flavors. got it.r pickup order? ran out of ink and i have a big meeting today and 2 boxes of twizzlers... yeah, uh...for the team... the team? gooo team.... order online pickup in an hour. hurry in and save on tax software. at office depot officemax

♪ ♪ our new, hot, fresh breakfast will get you the readiest. (buzzer sound) holiday inn express. be the readiest.

turn up your swagger game with one a day gummies. one serving... ...once a day... ...with nutrients that support 6 vital functions... ...and one healthy you. that's the power of one a day. whooo! want to take your next vacation to new heights? tripadvisor now lets you book over a hundred thousand tours, attractions, and experiences in destinations around the world! like new york! from bus tours, to breathtaking adventures, tripadvisor makes it easy to find and book amazing things to do. and you can cancel most bookings up to 24 hours in advance for a full refund. so you can make your next trip... monumental! read reviews check hotel prices book things to do

tripadvisor we've done it! hah! great work old chap. we'll be rich and famous. well i'll be rich, you'll be famous... at least amongst your digging friends. here's a thought, ever consider investing? e*trade has easy to use tools that help you get started. you like playing with tools don't you? 'course you do. ♪ don't get mad. start investing with e*trade. janice, mom told me you bought a house. okay. [ buttons clicking ] [ camera shutter clicks ] so, now that you have a house, you can use homequote explorer. quiet. i'm blasting my quads. janice, look. i'm in a meeting. -janice, look. -[ chuckles ] -look, look. -i'm looking. it's easy. you just answer some simple questions online, and you get coverage options to choose from. you're ruining my workout. cycling is my passion.

tonight, farmers around the country feeling the pain from the shutdown that has no end in sight. they are a group already hit hard with trump's trade war with china. bill weir is out front. >> my grandparents are farmers. i thought my grandfather was the smartest man i ever met. >> reporter: like most iowa farmers, kate edwards loves the rhythm of the season. seeds in the spring, harvest in the fall. but while winter is a time to plan. this is a time to worry. >> as a farmer, it's kind of the worst time of year for the government to shut down. >> reporter: is that right? >> if it was at any other time of year, we could prepare. in the winter months, this is the time of year we're making business decisions. >> reporter: she says the shutdown makes it much harder to apply for loans, collect checks or see the department of

agriculture data needed to plot the next crop. >> i suppose you also have to make equipment decision, right, investments? >> oh, that's an easy one. we don't have any money, so we're not investing. >> reporter: he says the shutdown is a one-two punch that started with a trade war with china. this destroyed his profit margin in soy beans while raising the cost of his equipment. >> the cost of a new grain bin went up 15 to 25%. so things are already tight. if you are thinking of buying a grain bin, you probably won't do it now. >> reporter: he refused to criticize a president that flipped iowa from blue to red with the big help from farmers. >> you know i think there is some growing uneasiness. we're sort of in the middle of the game. you can't predict the outcome of the game in the middle. >> reporter: but you can second guess coaching if you are down by 50 points. >> yeah, we're down by a few touchdowns, if you want to put it that way. he campaigned on a lot of things

he's dpok right now and he's doing it. a lot of farmers, bing supporters of donald trump. until he's out of office, i don't think you'll hear them say anything bad about him or the tariffs. it will be good for us in the long run. >> reporter: when he's not he says most farmers he know will swallow the pain of patrottic pride. oh, and $12 billion bail out doesn't hurt. by borrowing more money from china to pay you guys a subsidy. >> yeah, he knows we're taking a hit. he's acknowledging the tariffs are having a negative impalkt on the agriculture industry. and so to keep the farmers happy he's given us a subsidy. >> does that make sense? >> it does if his plan works out in the long run. >> it's unbelievable that the farmers in iowa can still support trump when it's costing them thousands every week.

i can't believe that they're that blind. >> and they're being placated with a $12 billion bail out. >> reporter: gary the eye doctor tells me after he was critical of trump supporters he lost a few regular patients. and while a democrat lost in the mid-terms political riffs are only getting wider. >> the die hard are dying harder. >> well, just today the agriculture department said we're going to call back almost 10,000 farm agency works. these are people who process those loans. so between that and the $12 billion subsidy, you can see which voters the president cares most about. whether or not he feels their pain in an empathetic way, he see their power and throwing as much help as he can. >> he sees something with this and i'm sure is quite placated

himself. next, the native-american elder involved in the viral confrontation makes a request. and this weekend on cnn, the incredible true story of triplets separated at birth who find each other as adults. >> when i tell people my story, they don't believe me, but it's true. >> i've always thought what would it be like if you turn the corner one day and you saw yourself. #. >> wow. >> the first time the boys met the three together it was a miracle. >> there was nothing that could keep us apart. >> that's when things kind of got funky. >> something was just not right. i'd like to know the truth. >> it was always a question mark. >> the parents had never been told. >> they're trying to conseal what they did from the people

they did it to. >> there's still so much that we don't know. >> how could you not tell us? >> three identical strangers, sunday at 9:00 eastern on cnn. free wi-fi... ...and the price match guarantee. so with hilton there is no catch. yeah the only catch is i'm never leaving. no i'm serious, i live here now. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee. audible members know listening has the power to change us, make us better people.m with audible you get more. two audible originals: exclusive titles you can't find anywhere else. plus a credit good for any audiobook and exclusive fitness and wellness programs. all for just $14.95 a month, and always ad free.

the most inspiring minds, the most compelling stories, the best place to listen. download audible and start your free trial today. you have 4.3 minutes this time,to yourself.rn. this calls for a taste of cheesecake. philadelphia cheesecake cups. rich, creamy cheesecake with real strawberries. find them with the refrigerated desserts.

the latest inisn't just a store.ty it's a save more with a new kind of wireless network store. it's a look what your wifi can do now store. a get your questions answered by awesome experts store.

it's a now there's one store that connects your life like never before store. the xfinity store is here. and it's simple, easy, awesome. breaking news. the student at the center of the controversial encounter that went viral between a native-american elder a group of high school students wearing make america great again hats is speaking out tonight as the white house says it has, quote, reached out and voiced our support to the student's school. and says there could be a white house visit. let's go straight to sarah snider who's out front. and what are we hearing from the teen at the center of this? >> reporter: yeah, nick did send a statement yesterday letting everyone know there how it

happened in washington, d.c. and he clearly doesn't blame himself or the other students or the chaperones. he puts the blames on the adults in the situation, those who were standing against him including mr. philips. >> as far as standing there, i had every right to do so. i don't -- my position is that i was not disrespectful to mr. philips. i respect him. i'd like to talk to him. i mean, in hindsight i wish we could have walked away and avoided the whole thing. >> reporter: so you heard him there extending an olive branch saying i'd like to talk to him. and so you're getting a clearer picture now of someone who has decided he would like to have a conversation after all of this blew up. and it all blew up because of a viral video that got thousands of thousands of views from one wer spective. and we know now from a longer video there was a lot going on,

a lot of tension being hurled at these kids from four black men standing there who called themselves hebrew israelites. and you saw nathan philips walking up with his drum coming between the two groups. >> look, there's still so many questions it's hard to know if we'll ever really know who's telling the truth and what really happened. but of course everyone wants to take a side and point a finger and now and the native-american involved in the confrontation is asking to meet with the students. whouts goi what's going to happen here, sarah? >> reporter: we'll have to wait and see. the president inviting the high school kids to see him and sit with him. i do want to read to you what the native-american gentleman said. he said, look, i read the statement from nick sandman. he said that he stared at me for a long time and he didn't apologize, and he believed that they are intentional falsehoods in this testimony. but i do want to bring up

something else, and that is basically there's been a lot of talk about whether nathaniel philips served in the military and served in vietnam, it turns out he did not serve in vietnam. something he told cnn that he was a vietnam times veteran, in other words a vietnam era vet wn but did not serve. anderson's next. in good evening and in just a few days 800,000 americans many still on the job will go without another paycheck. others will have to go without vital government services. the federal court system is running out of money. the fbi agent's association says the bury has lost several informants in terrorism investigations. airports are backing up because unpaid tsa screeners are calling in sick and working other jobs to make ends meet. cnn has obtained an