something else, and that is basically there's been a lot of talk about whether nathaniel philips served in the military and served in vietnam, it turns out he did not serve in vietnam. something he told cnn that he was a vietnam times veteran, in other words a vietnam era vet wn but did not serve. anderson's next. in good evening and in just a few days 800,000 americans many still on the job will go without another paycheck. others will have to go without vital government services. the federal court system is running out of money. the fbi agent's association says the bury has lost several informants in terrorism investigations. airports are backing up because unpaid tsa screeners are calling in sick and working other jobs to make ends meet. cnn has obtained an internal tsa

e-mail asking them to move to other locs harder hit by the sick outs. talking about other late developments i want you to hear from some of those 800,000 men and women who work for all of us. >> how many of you are running out of money, raise your hand. all of you? >> i don't know how i'm going to pay the $250 a month for his medication. my husband and i have put ourselves on a macaroni and cheese and grilled cheese diet so therefore the kids can eat. >> today the senate republicans introduced a bill along the lines of what president trump is demanding including money for a border wall, temporary protection for some but not all daca kids and sharp new restricts on lawful asylum seekers. the vote on it could come thursday, a day before payday. senators may also vote thursday on a democratic bill to reopen the government temporarily but

not fund a wall. neither measure is expected to pass, but a lot could change in the next two days. however, keeping them honest some things will not change. two as much as the president has lately tried to pin the blame elsewhere, it appears that the people in that poll took him at his word when he said this. >> i am proud to shutdown the government for border security. i will take the mantle. i will be the one to shut it down. i'm not going to blame you for it. the last time you shut it down, it didn't work. i will take the mantle and shut it down. and i will shut it down for border security. >> in other words, the buck stops with him, except as you know he doesn't really believe that. >> does the buck stop with you over this shutdown? >> the buck stops with everybody. >> okay, so the buck doesn't stop with him. hey, it's only a dollar after all. anyway, the president has made it clear that what he shut the

government down for, his wall is nonnegotiable. but even that's open to question as our political reporters and analysts have been saying for weeks on this program republican lawmakers may be weary of full committing to any deal making because they don't fully trust the president will have their backs. they remember the deal he backed out of at the last minute when right wing talk show personalities objected to it. they remember when he said the buck stops with everyone. they may even remember that televised session a year ago when he told the stunned senator feinstein he would like to pass a clean bill to protect daca kids first, and he would later, quote, take all the heat he want to give me, unquote, for a comprehensive immigration bill. minutes after what he said to senator feinstein a republican lawmaker with cameras rolling pulled him in the opposite direction and then the president essentially said he'd be good with just about anything. >> this group comes back with hopefully an agreement, this group and others from the senate

and the house comes back with an agreement, i will be signing it. i'm not going to say oh, gee, i want this or i want that. i'll be signing it. because i have a lot of confidence the people in this room are going to come out with something really good. >> well, that's not how it panned out a year ago. it's hard to tell ultimately what this president wants. is it building a wall? perhaps. he certainly promised that. again, he also promised the taxpayers would not pay for it. now he's shutting down the government thl nido. he said he'd take the heat, he didn't. he said he'd take the mantle. he's said a lot of things and you'd still wonder where he really stands and how this shutdown will really end. more now from where things stand with jim acosta joining us from the white house. where do things stand right now? >> reporter: that's a really good question, anderson. our folks up on capitol hill tell us there are going to be some competing bills up for votes later on this week.

one on thursday which looks like it's coming from the republican side. mitch mcconnell which is essentially the president's plan to fund the wall and reopen the government. there's essentially one coming down from the house and reopen the government. both of these would do it for a brief period of time, but it would not have funding for the president's border wall. both of those bills are unlikely tapass. and sarah sanders was doing it in the driveway here and she did not rule out the possibility that the president could sign that bill. but i talked to a white house official just a short while ago who said how likely is that democratic bill actually going to get out of the congress and over here to the president's desk. so that doesn't seem likely either. what we're really staring at the prospect is this shutdown grinding on. >> is there going to be a "state of the union" address? do we know at this point? >> the white house says there will be plans for a "state of

the union" just up on capitol hill. just as if the speaker of the house nancy pelosi had never disinvited the president from giving that speech. this official said with some planning that means that they would like to have that "state of the union" speech up on capitol hill. they could also deliver one over here at the white house. although as you saw with that border speech the president did recently from the oval office, the president didn't like the way that turned out very much. there's also the idea floating around and we understand from talking to white house officials that this is under discussion, that the president could actually hold a campaign style rally outside of washington to sort of drum up support for what he wants to do down on the border, or it could be more subdued speech to supporters. so they're talking about all sorts of possibilities at this point because this government shutdown has not been resolved, as you said, anderson, affecting, impacting and hurting millions of americans across the country. >> democratic senator elizabeth

warren of massachusetts has not formally declared she's running for president. she's done anything but. tonight she's in puerto rico making her first appearance on cnn since getting started. i spoke to her just a short time ago. senator warren, you're in puerto rico tonight. can you explain why you're there especially so early on in your campaign? >> so i've been talking about a government in washington that works great for the wealthy and the well-connected but not so much for everyone else. and i've been doing that for a long time. puerto rico is one of the prime examples of that. right here in puerto rico, an island that's been devastated both by a financial crisis and by twin hurricanes, right now has a government that is taking money off the island in order to send it to wall street. and cutting services, health care services, schools right

here in puerto rico. it's just a prime example of government that works for the rich and the powerful and doesn't work for the people. >> do you believe that the government in d.c. is complicit in the -- in keeping the body count of the actual death toll so low for so long, wave now learned through various studies that thousands of people died in the wake and months after the storm. do you think the government is complicit in that? >> the death count in puerto rico has been proven to be now in the thousands. and the fact that this administration has refused to acknowledge that and continue to put out reports long after the evidence was available showing just a very small death count is just one more way in which the people of puerto rico have been

disrespected from start to finish since the hurricanes hit. >> just in terms of the shutdown, the senate's going to vote thursday on two partisan bills that have no chance of passing both chambers. is that really the best that lawmakers can do? does either side have a right to be proud of what's happening right now? >> look, we need to open the government. people are working jobs. i today was with tsa agents who are out doing their jobs trying to keep us safe, and they're not getting paid. people have been shutout from the jobs that they need to do. the government needs to be reopened. there are two ways that can happen immediately. either donald trump can say he's ready to sign something to open the government or mitch mcconnell could just put the same budget bill on the floor of the senate that was voted overwhelmingly in december.

this is manufactured crisis and it's starting to impose real pain. real pain on families all across this country. federal agents are not political pawns in some game that the republicans want to play. we need to get the government open. >> the president's party, though, controls the white house and the senate. democrats only control the house. do you ever think, look, the realistic end game is that republicans get two thirds of what they want and the democrats have to settle for the shorter straw? is that how the balance of power really works? >> well, let's talk about the balance of power. there are two coequal branches of government. the president of it united states and the congress. the congress of the united states in december the senate voted on a funding bill that was a compromise between democrats and republicans. the house held it up, so when

the house came back into session after the new year in 2019, they passed the funding bill. we have the votes on the congressional side. but so far mitch mcconnell is saying, no, the only one who has any power in washington is donald trump. and he's saying he won't bring any bill to the floor of the senate that can't be passed that the president won't sign into law. that's basically just abdicating the responsibility of congress. we had a compromised proposal, democrats and republicans. everybody had signed off ready to go, and then donald trump blew it up for his own reasons and said he would be proud to shutdown the government. well, that's what he's done and we are now sitting here in the longest shutdown in american history. and it's hurting people all across this country. it needs to stop. reopen the government. >> i want to ask you a little

bit about the presidential race. i know you said you're delighted senator kamala harris has announced her candidacy for president. are you concerned at all how she and other centrists, you might call them, may run or attempt to paint you as too far to the left. is too far to the left of the mantle you may happily embrace? >> i'm now talking about the economic issues how government works, what's happening. it's middle class families, working families all cross this country, why the path has gotten rock rockier and why it's gotten so much rockier for people of color. this is what i've worked on all my life, and i got into the senate race in 2012 to talk about these issues, to fight for these families. now here i am as we look at 2020 just right in the center of this fight. this is what i'm going to

continue to talk about. and i'm delighted that there are lots of democrats who want to talk about ideas, who want to talk about a way to build a stronger america. i believe in that. i'm somebody whose dad ended up as a janitor. i got my dhachance at a college that cost $50 a semester and got my college to be a school proferspr professor and a united states senator. because america invested in that opportunity. i believe in investing in opportunities for our kids. i think that's how we build a future in this country and i'm out there and willing to fight for it. >> to voters i'm wondering what you have to say, have the tax cuts had a positive effect on the economy?

>> look, giving away a trillion and a half-dollars to corporations, to billionaires, to the wealthy and well-connected while young people are struggling with student loan debt, while families can't have p prescriptions filled, while infrastructure crumbles around us, that's not how we build a future in this country. you know, the way i see this is it is this fundamental question, who do we think our government ought to work for? this economy? sure, there are great numbers. the rich got fabulous tax breaks. wall street has been up and down but back up. but the lived experience of tens of millions of people across this country is the squeeze.

it's about flat wages and increased cost for housing, for health insurance, to get your kids educated. we have a country that's getting richer and richer, but the problem is that too much of that wealth is flowing just to a thin slice at the top. and everyone else is getting left behind. that's not how we build a future. >> the president has obviously had his fair charge of racially charged things to say about you, if not outright racist. yesterday hakeem jeffreys called the president the grand wizard of 1600 pennsylvania avenue. is that an appropriate thing for a sitting member of congress to say about the president? >> look, the president has made clear where he stands. and he did that in charlottesville. he's done it over and over. what matters is that we as democrats make clear what we

stand for and what we're going to fight for. look, for me i believe in the wealth -- i believe in the worth of every single human being. i think that recognizing that worth and then as a country saying we're just going to invest in some opportunities, a level playing field, a chance for a kid who's the daughter of a janitor to be able to go to school, to be able to get an education, to be able to build some real security in her life, i believe that that is the best of america. i believe in an america that reflects our values. but we're going to have to build it together. we're going to have to take our government back. we're going to have to take it away from the wealthy and well-connected who have turned it in their direction, and we're going to have to make it work again for the people. that's the reason yipe in this. >> just lastly in terms of it

race, are you confident you know how to effectively campaign against the president and his scorcher tactics. the high road didn't work out for republican candidates, didn't work out for hillary clinton. >> i'll tell you something, i was born and raised in oklahoma. and all three of my brothers live in oklahoma now. one of them is a democrat. the other two are not. but i love all three of my brothers. and one of the things we spend a lot of time doing is talking about the things we actually agree on, the values. we want the same things for our kids. we want all of our kids to have basic health care coverage, and we don't want it so there's somebody that's sick, they end up bankrupt as well. we want our kids to be able to get an education, a good education, pre-k, k-12 and after

high school. we want those things. we want our kids to have a future. and yeah, there are places where we disagree about the best place to put that together. but i think as a people when we talk about our values, we talk about the things that we care most about, we can find some common ground and we can build on that ground, and we can make a real commitment. not just to hope it happens but a real commitment to fight for it, to make it happen. i think that's our opportunity. and i also think it's our responsibility. >> senator warren, i appreciate your time. thanks. >> it's good to talk with you. more now on the shutdown and the president's deal making or lack thereof. you know when it comes to making a deal the president says he's an artist. we'll ask someone who khactuall wrote the book on donald trump, "the art of the deal."

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quite true as trump biographer micha michael d'antonio put it last night. he said the president preferred i win. also talking about how speaker pelo pelosi says her old boss has a problem with women who have power. you not only wrote "the art of the deal" i understand you kind of created the narrative of him as a deal maker, is that right? >> i was sitting across from him and he told me in an interview i was doing that he'd been asked to write a book and i said what's it about, he said my autobiography and i said you're 38 years old and you don't have an autobiography, and i said if i were you i'd write a book called the art of the deal

because people were interested in the deals he made. it was a way of framing a story about which there was very little to say absent the deals he'd been involved in. >> as a negotiator it seems like claiming victory is his main focus. i mean, some people make deals so that everyone feels they win. it just seems like he doesn't view it that way. >> well, he views a deal as something he must win, and his style of deal making is to take a hammer and raise it over your head and smash it down and say would you like to make that deal. and if you say no, smash it down again. but we're in a very different world, in a new york real estate world now, in a world in which he doesn't hold all the cards. >> it's also fascinating that, i mean you've talked about it on

the program before, that he operates in sort of ten minute increments, and it's not this sort of long-term view. it's really what's going to get him through the next ten minutes. >> i mean, i've found myself wondering, anderson, over the last few days what if you dialled this back and he started over, this is man with no ideology when i knew him and long after that, he didn't have any political beliefs. he had things he wanted to accomplish. and i don't believe until very, very recently meaning the last several years he began to move right. what if he actually decided i actually do want to be a deal maker, i actually do want to negotiate? what kind of accomplishments might have been possible? and i wonder and i know he spends almost all his time watching television, we know that now. so i wonder, hey, donald, if you're watching are you wondering if maybe you should have gone a different direction? because it didn't working out, and that style has clearly

failed. >> the -- why do you think it's failing? just because he's not used to working with so many moving parts? >> i do think that's part of it. i think, you know, this is complex situation and there are multiple stakeholders. i also think the keys to real negotiation when you don't hold all the cards are humility, the ability to -- the ability to step back, the willingness to make sacrifices, and the absence of a need to win in an absolute way. >> it does seem nancy pelosi has sort of gotten in his head a way few other people have. particularly as a woman i'm wondering did he deal with a lot of powerful women previously? >> well, you had barbara rez. and i would say she's a powerful

woman. those are three of the powerful women who worked for him. we're talking about power, we've got to rate it on a curve. and he's looking at nancy pelosi at a very different level of power. and it's kind of fascinating to see the difference the way he treats chuck schumer and the way he treats pelosi. now, i think part of that is because nancy pelosi is in charge of a group of people who actually have the majority and chuck schumer's not. but i think the bigger thing is trump actually believes she's tough. i don't believe he really thinks that schumer is tough. and so he's up against someone who defies his ordinary understanding because he doesn't think of women as being tough. he may think of them as being confident. he always liked the idea he could use them. and i don't mean just sexually. i mean use them in the sense of his success. but i don't think he's -- and barbara may have said this herself, i don't think he's ever been up against a woman who's

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it is that time of the night. time to get out your rudy giuliani decoder ring. the president's tv lawyer has been on a rampage of confusion notice past few days, spinning, painting himself into corners and essentially denying that

corners even exist. this all has to do with the president's dealings in russia. something the president has said was nonexistent. giuliani has said something different. he said the talks continued throughout the campaign and immediately tried to backtrack and distance himself from that statement. our dana bash spoke with giuliani trying to get some clarification. he joins me now. what is the latest giuliani has toad you about this confusion he himself has sowed and whether the president is upset with him. >> that was the question i put to him and he said, no, he's not pissed, he just wants it clarified and he understands these things happen, it happens to him all the time. i also asked giuliani if he has any sense that the president or anyone in that circle will ask giuliani to take a break for a while because all of this

confusion resulting from his interviews and jewel yaeny said no, i don't think so, i don't get that sense because he said the special counsel hasn't reached out to him. an open question is whether mueller's team because of all this will go back to trump's lawyers and ask for clarification on the president's formal answer under oath about when he talked to michael cohen about that trump tower moskow project. and giuliani told me that although they had told the mueller team no more answers from there president, on this one they would make an exception. he said the answer is simple, the answer is we don't know, we don't remember. >> okay, so the question whether giuliani is lying to the president now involves you'll giuliani's tombstone. >> he was asked in a puplication, maybe the new

yorker about whether this is his legacy and whether he's worried about that. the way it came across is the suggestion is he admitted he's lie frg the president. so i asked him if that's that's what he meant to say. and he said i am not lying for the president. the reason i said that is because everyone's concerned with legacy. i can't figure out why because you don't get tachance to taegs whatever you do in life you don't get a chance to shape the way people see it later so do what you think is right. so that was his answer to that. remember he was the only guy to go out after the "access hollywood" tape came out that weekend and defend and explain and speak for the president and said they'd been friends for decades and decades and someone has to defend him. >> i don't know what qualifies as the most problematic thing

giuliani has said in recent days but he now says he didn't even say that, is that right? >> well, yes, i talked to him about that. he disputes that the president gave that quote. he said he was speaking hypothetically, that's not what he meant. he didn't mean in any of these interviews whether on sundays with jake or subsequently trying to explain it, he didn't mean to say anything different than what he said a month or two ago, which is that the president doesn't remember exactly when he stopped talking about the trump tower moskow project with michael cohen. he thought it was the beginning of 2016, but they left wiggle room because he just doesn't remember. >> all right, dana bash, thank you. a lot to get to tonight with chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin and mike shields. rudy giuliani says he's not lying for the president, but something's going on.

>> something is going on. i think the core issue with giuliani now is that the president has locked himself in with these answers to mueller, these written answers. and those answers almost certainly are different from what the president was saying when he was just candidate trump during the campaign especially about the issue of these negotiations with moskow. so i think what he's doing is trying to sort of move the president's position closer to the written answers without admitting that the president was lying during the campaign. and that's basically impossible. >> mike, i mean jewgiuliani say the president is not upset about all these contradictions and walk backs. should the president upset his lawyer is muddying the waters so much, or is that to jeff's point by design? >> well, he assigned rudy this job. and we know he's a tough critic of representatives when they speak because he likes to speak himself, and it's really hard to

watch somebody else doing this. and rudy giuliani's job as sort of a defense lawyer is to read the jury, and the jury is the american public. this is a political trial and the american public is the jury, and their representatives is who will decide this in a trial meeting if there was an impeachment trial on this. and like jeffrey said, he's trying to create wiggle room for that public to say it could be in this zone or it could be in this zone, and we're going to find out later. and when he does that it comes across as awkward. and so, you know, the president has to decide how much -- and as a republican we have a lot of things woo we should be talking about now like the daca deal. so there must be a reason why the white house wanted him to do it because in the middle of all this they decided to come out and have him do that. >> now giuliani is changing his story to the "the new york times" and saying he had conversations with trump tower moskow from the day i announced to the day i run.

giuliani is now claiming a, he didn't say that, and b, he doesn't know if the times made it up. it has to be one or the other. >> "the times" didn't make it up. that's just silly. and the best theory i could come up with is donald trump said this and rudy giuliani either let it slip out or thought it was supposed to be for public consumption is now is basically trying to say he didn't say something because it's obviously quite damning if this is true this was going on. >> but it seems like the risk here we spend time talking about giuliani when the fact is the guy who's now president of the united states was now clearly involved in negotiations with a hostile foreign power during the 2016 campaign, praising that power, praising putin throughout and then lying about it. and now, you know, it's coming out. but what's significant is what trump did during the campaign,

not what giuliani says about it now. >> because what he says about it now is all over the place and designed to distract. >> it's all over the place. it's confusing. but the point is donald trump was in bed with the russians during the campaign. he was lying about that, and the question it raises is whose interest was donald trump advocating during the campaign. his own commercial interests or those of the american people? i mean it's a pretty profound question. >> mike, i mean, do you see it as jeff does that's what the president was doing during -- >> this is one of the reasons why, look, i know the job of president and of giuliani and the president it was team is to discredit mueller's investigation just like any defense group would try to discredit a prosecutor and question their motives. but in the end they also should look forward to when this is resolved and that he could be exonerated. because even if he was -- his company was working on a business deal that doesn't mean

he broke any laws or there was any conspiracy or collusion in his campaign. it looks messy and something you politically may not want to talk about, but it doesn't mean it's something illegal or worthy of impeachment or a lot of things the democrats in the house are talking about. so the sooner they get this over with the sooner -- >> but lying to the american people the whole time and actually promoting policies that would help his business interests? >> well, i don't know if that's clear or not. that's what this investigation will potentially come out and exonerate him of that stuff. >> do you agree you kind of miss the forest through the trees? >> yes, and i think this is an tremy big deal, this deal there's a reason he would lie about it, there's a reason he wouldn't want people to know about it because it doesn't look very good. and he was hiding his relationship with a country that

hacked into and tried to disrupt our elections. so i think that it's not just this minor deal that i think he overlooked and forgot to explain people. i think it was intentionally hid. >> do you think, jeff, mueller pays attention to giuliani on tv? >> i doubt it. yooreally dou y i really doubt it. people say he's waiving the attorney-client privilege and he's going to be brought in to testify. i think the mueller people are focused on what's going on in the grand jury, what the fbi interviews show. and giuliani is background noise, and i am sad to say what we say is probably background noise to them as well. >> jeff toobin, mike shields, kirsten powers, thanks. cuvington catholic high school in kentucky was closed

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there's still fall out tonight from that viral video of an incident from students at a catholic high school in kentucky

and a native-american elder during the school's annual trip in washington. there's breaking news tonight. the student who wore a make america great hat and found himself at the center of the controversy is breaking his silence for the first time. cnn's miguel marquez has the latest. >> reporter: nick sandmann the high school junior from covington's catholic high school speaking out. >> as far as standing there, i had every right to do so. i don't -- my position is that i was not disrespectful to mr. philips. >> reporter: the video of sandmann facing off with the tribal elder nathan philips ignited elder nationwide. >> i'd like to talk to him. i mean, in hindsight i wish we could have walked away and avoided the whole thing. >> reporter: today the catholic high school abruptly closed. in a statement they said it was

due to threats of violence and the possibility of large crowds. >> through this incident here our people can come together. >> reporter: no protests today but a vigil held at the covington diocese attending trump supporters and other native-american groups. >> people need to take back this country and we'll work together to do it. >> reporter: nathan philips said when the incident happened he was trying to diffuse tensions who taunted both students and native-americans for over an hour before the controversial standoff made international headlines. he's now offered to travel to kentucky to meet with the students to discuss cultural diversity. >> when i started taking those steps and using the drum it was just spur-of-the-moment. i don't like to say it that way, but it was just what do you do now? here's a moment where something

that -- that's really ugly in our society, in america, something that's just kind of come to a boiling point. >> reporter: the dioceses of covington says in a statement a third party investigation is planned to begin this week. this a very serious matter that has already permanently altered the lives of many people. it is important for us to gather the facts that will allow us to determine what corrective action if any are appropriate. the incident has shaken this suburb just south of cincinnati. >> nationally it's huge, but, you know, it's kind of surprising all the friends i have from all around the country that are messaging me about it and asking questions about it. >> miguel marquez joins us now. i understand there's some news tonight about the students and

the white house. >> yeah, the white house sarah sanders says has reached out to the students here and voiced their support for them. saying that the president understands the predicament of the situation their and the president basically put himself in the same position as the students saying they are welcome to the white house at some point but would be after the government shutdown if it happens at all. so there may be a possibility of them coming out to the white house but it's not clear if and when it might happen. >> we'll check in with chris and find out what he's working on. >> got to go deep into the three different messes we're dealing with. we have tim cain on and he says i have it wrong. that this is not a deone deal o thursday. one bill, there's enough democrats to scuttle it.

he says there's a chance, and he's going to tell us why. i'm going to take you through how we got to where we are with the current positions of the president with the mueller probe right now and by doing that, i will reveal why all the confusion. >> i'll see you then. thanks. the u.s. citizen arrested and accused of spying in russia did have classified material in his possession his lawyer tells cnn. coming up, was it a mix up or something more sinister? so lionel, what does being able to trade 24/5 mean to you? well, it means i can trade after the market closes. it's true. so all... evening long. ooh, so close. yes, but also all... night through its entirety. come on, all... the time from sunset to sunrise. right. but you can trade... from, from... from darkness to light. ♪ you're not gonna say it are you?

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he was found in possession of classified material when he was arrested. that's according to his state appointed lawyer. he appeared in a moscow courtroom today and was denied bail. his client was given a thumb drive that he thought contained

vacation pictures. his attorney said it contained evidence that constitutes state secrets. we do know the president has not said a word about this so far. it does seem to get stranger and stranger. you have this russian attorney representing him. >> this is straight out of the entrapment play book. an american reporter arrested in 1986. he thought it was photos of central asia but there were maps that were supposed to be classified and as soon as he was handed this he was arrested by the kgb. why did they want to arrest him?

it's a couple of days earlier the u.s. arrested a russian spy and they wanted a trade for him. it was classified information. it seems like entrapment. >> do you think this is linked to the arrest and prosecution of maria? >> absolutely. they want her back in russia and hei he is a pawn. >> donald trump may have an interest of getting rid of her as well because cnn just reported that the special counsel is investigating the links between the trump campaign and the nra and as we know, she was sent to infiltrate the nra so president trump may have an interest in getting her back to russia so she can't testimony too much about this russian infiltration of republican politics. >> it's interesting that the president hasn't commented on it. i don't know if he's trying to not put pressure on it to let it kind of resolve behind the

scenes. >> the nepharious construction is he never says anything bad about vladimir putin. it doesn't matter what he does. donald trump never says a bad word against him. you can reach that conclusion. on the other hand, you can draw a more benign conclusion. there's more negotiations going on behind the scene and he doesn't perhaps want to mess them up although when have you ever heard him be careful about what he says in public? >> that's the only leverage that the u.s. government has in a case like this. >> that's why they do these things. the u.s. doesn't just go out and arrest somebody for political purposes. the russians, they can arrest anybody they want for any reason they want. they're not constrained by the rule of law. so they can grab any american they want if they want something out of the united states.

>> it's also, if i was overseas, with the idea of having -- it's a russian attorney represe representing -- they're theoretically inherently compromised. >> it doesn't matter what attorney represents him, he's not going to get a fair trial. this is all about what the kremlin wants and everybody else is actors in this drama. >> it could go on -- there's no telling how long this will go on for. >> that's the game they're playing. >> we'll see what happens. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. a reminder, don't miss full circle. it's the daily interactive newscast on facebook. you can get all the details and watch it weeknights at 6:25 p.m. eastern at facebook.com/anderson cooper full circle every weekday

night. news continues right now. i'll hand it over to chris cuomo. >> thank you, anderson. welcome to primetime. a key senator says there is a chance that the shutdown could end if and when they vote on this proposal on thursday. then, why is robert mueller seeking information on the trump campaign's ties to the nra and how does the president's lawyers radical retakes effect the mueller probe? cuomo's court is in session on that. and partisan america, polarized over that standoff. is it about us viewing who is to blame or is there a bigger truth that all must agree on? what do you say? let's get after it. here's where we are. week five of the shutdown and it's