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the president caves, ending the 35-day shutdown with a deal that has no money for the wall. >> the central crime that launched the investigation has now been directly linked to the trump campaign. >> there's still no evidence whatsoever that i had add advance knowledge of the topic, subject, with the source of the wikileaks disclosures. i never received. >> there is no circumstance what so far under which i will bear false witness against the president. >> announcer: this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. good saturday morning to you. the shutdown is over. there's now this three-week funding measure. the bill has been signed and now the battle starts for the next budget deal. >> yeah, president trump basically signed the same deal he's been rejecting for weeks.
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no money for his border wall. he attempted to calm his base by tweeting this, this was in no way a concession. he says if he doesn't have a deal, or the wall by february 15th, he'll declare a national emergency and get it done that way. >> meanwhile, trump's longtime friend was indict eed roger sto and arrested. >> and indicted of working with the campaign. >> and the white house and president made it clear that this is not the end of the fight for that border wall. >> cnn white house reporter sarah westwood joining us live. we heard there in twitter, obviously, a bit on the defensive about what this really was in his mind. this negotiation, this stepback. what are you hearing from the white house this morning, sarah. >> well, christi, president trump is emerging weakened from
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a shutdown battle that got him no closer to getting money in the face of sagging approval numbers. polls show that most americans blame president trump for the standoff. he's no closer to fulfilling that campaign promise. and after all of that, he accepted a deal that looked a lot like the one he rejected in december right before the shutdown that would fund the government three weeks through february 15th, after which he says he will allow funding for the government to lapse again. or he'll declare a national emergency to try to tap into federal funds that way. now, the president caved after republicans, democrats, were starting to put pressure on the white house increasingly. white house aides were worried about images of federal workers lining up at food banks and particularly about the chaos that had started to develop at airports, as tsa agents who can be doing their jobs without weeks without paychecks were starting to call in sick as they remained without a salary.
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now, of course, the president already facing a conservative backlash, his home time paper "the new york post" describing him as the caveman. and many republicans wondering why the president allowed the shutdown to drag on for 35 days, the longest in u.s. history, and then agreed to reopen the government without any wall funding. democrats remain united of funding against any barrier along the southern border. that's not likely to change during the next three weeks. although white house aides and allies hope that what's going to happen that democrats who said they don't want to negotiate on any deal while the government is shut down will now have a reason to come to the table with the government partial rye reopen. make no mistake, this is a low point for president trump who has looked to anger all sides with his shutdown antics. >> sarah westwood at the white house. >> and the president said he made no concessions in this
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deal, and insists the fight continues if there no border wall deal. >> joining us now congressman meeks. welcome back to the show. >> good to be with you. >> let's start here with the latest we heard from the white house. the press secretary sarah sanders tweeted this out. in 21 days, 43 trump is moving forward building the wall with or without the democrats. the only question is whether or not the democrats want something for nothing. what's your response? >> my response, what we heard yesterday, we're going with the conference committee, that means we're going to have democrats and republicans, bipartisan and bicamara, that they will have discussion with real experts. democrats are concerned about border control. but we want real border control that's efficient, not a campaign
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promise that has been broken that we're going to build a big wall that mexico is going to pay for. so, now, we have a chance for individuals to sit down and review what really needs to be done at the border to protect our border. and what we need to also invest in our judges and our ports of entry where a lot of illegality has been taking place, with reference to drugs getting in. we want to make sure we really protect our borders. so, now, we have the time to sit down, negotiate, and get something done that is for real for the american people. and not just some campaign promise that the president knew was not legitimate in the first place. >> so, congressman, what is the starting point on border funding now? i mean, the fact that the president, you know, some might say, well, he gave a little. you know, he backed off, the government's open. is there an expectation that democrats will give a little to finalize this? >> well, as i said, democrats had negotiated previously for i think it was $25 billion over ten years that would be
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something that we had agreed upon. and the president had backed away from that. so, again, what we're looking to do is to talk to the experts, you know, if you just talk to some of the members that represent the border, democrats and republicans, for example, will hurd, they have a good idea what needs to take place at that border. and you're going to have some on the conference committee, individuals who have it right there to make this determination. and to talk through it so everybody can stand up. and i think you're going to see republican senators coming to their good senses also because that is significant. they cannot just stand behind the president when he's talking just about a campaign promise, that he knew he could not live up to in the first place. because the mexicans will not pay for this wall. and the wall, as he has depicted it, is not something that will keep america secure. >> so, let's just for this
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question set aside the promise that mexico is going to pay for the wall. important element of this argument for the president but just for this question. if the conference committee comes back and says as part of the comprehensive package for border security there needs to be the addition of more technology along the border, at the ports of entry, but also, additional barriers along the border. could you vote for billions of dollars to be added to add border barriers along the southern border with mexico? >> what i will be looking at, and what i think that the conference committee will look at, is those places where it may make sense some kind of security, along the border, in regards to fencing, whatever it. but it has to be something that is not just, you know, 2,000 miles, or 1,000 miles, as he said of fencing that's going to keep america safe. that just does not make sense. so, i think what democrats have talked about all along, let's negotiate. but let's not negotiate with the
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american people. 800,000 american people-plus. you know, contractors, et cetera, being held as basically hostages in this process. so, now, we've already been ready to negotiate. we are ready to negotiate. but we're going to negotiate something that makes sense. that's based upon some real rationale of securing american borders and trying to make sure that we're protecting our ports of entry. >> just to be clear, you are willing to vote for some sort of barrier in certain places along the border, if necessary? >> well, look, there are some places right now where there is something that is up on the wall. some of those places need to be repaired. and if that's what's concluded by the homeland security experts, yes, that is something that i can support. but if we're talking about just building a wall that is, i don't
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know how high he said it was going to be, for the sake of building a wall and keeping a campaign promise, that is not something that i can vote for. i'm not going to vote for anything that is not really there to protect the american people, but just there so that the president can say that he kept a campaign promise. nor do i think that the republican senators that's going to be involved in this conference committee, that they're going to step up. >> congressman, i want to get to the roger stone indictment in that reporting as well. but you say there's a potential you can vote for barriers if the homeland security experts and this congress commit endorsed that. reconcile that with speaker pelosi's characterization evof wall being immoral? >> well, i think what we're talking about, and speaker pelosi said she's always been willing to guarantee, democrats want to negotiate border security, but not with the
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american people held hostage. 800,000 american people held hostage. she's always said we need to sit down and talk about real border security, and that's what i'm talking about now. >> but you say the wall would be immoral, right? >> yeah. >> if this committee come back and we need this fence or wall. we need this steel wall, is that vote immoral? >> i think it is clear from everyone we've talked to thus far, it is clear from all conversation, and when you do some fact-checking that the wall as depicted by the president of the united states is, in fact, a problem. and that's what i think nancy, speaker pelosi was talking about being immoral. the wall as depicted by the president through his campaign, throughout, that is what she's talking about as immoral.
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the wall he said that is 100 feet high separating the countries without really border security, that is, you know -- >> but that's not the latest request from the white house. that's not what the president has been talking about for at least the last ten days or so. he's been talking about a wall. would a vote for that type be immoral? >> again, i'm saying what nancy pelosi said at that time is that we're willing to guarantee once they were not held hostage. negotiations will now start with the conference committee. that will be what will be the determining factor. >> so, what you're saying is, we're going to see a different kind of negotiation from this point on because the government is open. here's my question, phil massingly, cnn, talked to a democratic senator on thursday night. that democratic senator told him there was, quote, zero incentive to give to president trump. and some people would look at that and think, there are about
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800,000 incentives, meaning, of course, the government workers. how much of this is about the government workers and ouch how of this is a battle between nancy pelosi and president trump and how will that change in the next three weeks? >> i think we have a responsibility. and i think speaker pell loans has a responsibility. we are a separate and equal branch of government. i think that now what we will do, there is a pushback unlike what took place when we had one government, you know, republicans were in complete control. so, now, we have a voice to negotiate what we believe, and not just support as republicans have done in the past whatever the president wants. so we're going do do our job. and speaker pelosi is going to do her job making sure all is heard. and the senate has stepped up to do their job. and i think that's what made a
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substantial difference in this case. when senator mcconnell went silent and said he was only doing what the president wanted, then we were showing we were not an equal and separate branch of government. we took that vote, and we saw six senators vote with the democratic plan, just three votes short, i think that gave the president the knowledge that this is not just democrats who want something smart, but this is also republicans who want something smart. that's the direction in which we're moving in. >> congressman gregory meeks, thank you for the time for being with us. >> my pleasure. the mueller investigation has rounded up six trump associates on various charges. the latest indictment of roger stone is the latest in the ongoing investigation. where does it go here? and a tsa worker breaks down the struggle of the last five weeks. we'll get the reaction to the president's three-week stopgap,
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president trump's old friend and adviser roger stone says, and this is a quote, when you don't have evidence, you use theatrics. he was speaking about the fbi's early morning raid on his home there in ft. lauderdale yesterday. stone made his case during an interview with chris cuomo. >> when you say they have no proof, roger, to be honest with you, i have not seen an indictment connected to this probe that has more proof than this one does of communication that you have had that prove that you didn't tell the truth to the congress, the congressional panel you were before? >> false. every one of those statements is out of context. if you go to my website stone cold truth or watch any of my interviews i have actually refuted everything in there. then there are a bunch of things in there that frankly i don't believe are true.
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no senior campaign official told me to find out anything about wikileaks. that doesn't mean that mr. mueller can be induce somebody to say that but there will be no corroboracorroborati. and i did hear from the say that assange had a press event as to what he said, i responded with two matters-public record. politico had reported there would be a release every week for the next following weeks. and all the u.s.-related campaign, or election related material would be released in the weeks before the election. i also -- >> just to be clear, roger, to allow you to respond directly to what's in the indictment, if you're comfortable doing so, you're saying the only communication you ever had with anybody related to the campaign was this one communication you're talking about with steve
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bannon that you said is already public? >> it was published in the timers a "times," and i respond -- >> and that is the only one -- >> that's the only one that i recall, the only one that i can find in my e-mails. >> would you entertain cutting a deal, or anything short of going to trial on these charges? >> again, you're asking me to answer a hypothetical question, without knowing any of the facts. i know that i am innocent. my intention is to plead not guilty and to fight the charges. and i've had no discussion with anyone regarding a pardon. >> well, stone will be arraigned in federal court on tuesday. he was indicted on several counts yesterday, including making false statements. obstruction, witness tampering. part of the indictment said that stone lied about his ties. he calls the charges politically motivated and plans to plead not guilty as he left court.
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he said the charges in no way relate to collusion, wikileaks collaboration or any other acting in the 2016 campaign. here with me now is former federal prosecutor shan wu. >> and jessica schneider. shan, let me start with you, roger stone's attorney said they found no collusion or they would have charged him with that. that's what your hearing from a lot of the president's reporters. what's your take on that assessment? >> well, they're correct, he wasn't charged on any substantive conspiracy aspect of it. i think it's important to node as we all know, the trump campaign started out saying absolutely no contact whatsoever. obviously, there's been more contact and substantive contact. obviously, from the manafort case, we saw there was substance
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being exchanged. it moves closer and closer to showing the conclusion. i think what's important about this indictment, victor, it really shows the interest and the eagerness on the part of the campaign to want to get this information, so i think that's a very important point. >> i want to talk about that stuff isn't just a moment, shan. but jessica, let me ask you, the chronology, not of the entire case, but just the last 24 hours is so unique. i mean, we didn't have paul manafort or michael cohen or general flynn indicted and then they're on television the same nice. or in a news conference in that circus outside of the courthouse. why is he doing this? do we have any indication what thinks this advantage is for him? >> he seems to acknowledge he plans to fight this. going on chris cuomo's show last nief night, he's outspoken about the fact that he's going to fight the charges. as mentioned, victor, it really
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has about incredible past 24 hours. our camera crews were staked out outside of roger stone's home. we saw that whole fbi raid unfold. interestingly, like you said, we didn't see this with the other defendants. there was no fbi raid or substantive arrest of those other people. but roger stone, the reason they did this, they sealed the indictment against him on thursday, they said they were worried that roger stone, he might destroy evidence. he might flee. and that's why they did this early morning raid and arrest of roger stone. it was quite interesting. he was released on $250,000 bond. he was able to leave the courthouse. he'll appear in d.c. here on tuesday. yes, being very public. outspoken about it, saying he's going to fight the charges. and bringing up the fact that there's no collusion, of course. but he was charged with other serious crimes. obstruction, false statements, tampering. >> let me get up to the 2016
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release of stolen dnc e-mails by organization 1 a senior trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information organization 1 had regarding the clinton campaign. stone told the trump campaign about any potential future releases of damaging material by organization 1. would you caution, as we've seen done on air, would you caution legal analysts away from who directed the senior trump campaign? saying it's got to be the president who can direct a senior campaign official? >> i guess you could caution them. we're all reading the tea leaves here. there is a limited number of people who could do that direction. and it's certainly not reckless imagination to imagine that it could go to the level of the president. the big connection is the
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eagerness to get at this. that's not implausible. >> jessica, what are we expecting on tuesday? >> could it be more of the same, that circus-like atmosphere that we saw in ft. lauderdale? quite possibly. i'm at the courthouse here in d.c. there is always that camera presence outside the doors. i have no doubt we will see roger stone walk in spectacular fashion. he's known for his fashion. he's known for his outspoken and loud suits. so, we might see another circus, this time in washington, d.c., which has been the epicenter for really an entire circus the past two years. yash, yeah, we could see a lot of the same. he in on bond. he'll be able to walk into the courthouse on his own accord. he won't be ushered in underground or anything. >> did you want to weigh in, shan? >> one thing i want to point out, i think roger is going to
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get shut down in d.c. because this is the same judge we had in the gates case. and she's been very, very strict about the gag orders. even using his agents to talk about it going to be problematic. this may be his last hoo-rah on the talk shows. >> all right. shan wu, jessica schneider, thank you both. well, this morning, there's a collection of 800,000 sighs relief from the federal workers now that the government shutdown is over. how many of them are cautiously optimistic, though? they have three weeks to fix this. we're going to it talk to a tsa employee, next. when i kept finding myself smoking in my attic.
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president trump has agreed to temporarily reopen the government. he says that he struck a deal,
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he calls it, with the democrats. >> now, the president had promised that he would not reopen the government without funding for his border wall. >> so, despite the claim of a deal, some publications, let's say "the new york post" are saying president trump caved. cave man, they're calling him. and speaker pelosi got their way. open the government first, they say and then talk border wall funding. >> brian turner is with us now. brian, welcome back to the world of the working. >> thank you very much. great to be here. >> i'm glad you're here. i want to ask you, this is the first morning you're waking up with at least some answers as to when you can go back to work. what does it feel like for you this morning? >> it feels a lot different than yesterday morning waking up, i'll tell you that. it feels great. i know there are 800,000 people that are breathing a very big sigh of relief.
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going without pay for a month is difficult. i think we're all cautiously optimistic. >> have you had any indication when you'll get that first paycheck of back pay? >> i think there's a big sense of urgency to get payroll started. if i were to make an educated guess, i would say within the week, we're going to start seeing that money come in. >> but you haven't been advised by anybody? >> no, we have not. no. >> okay. so, you talk about cautious optimism, certainly. it fair to say, you think, that tsa workers and workers at the airport that kind of, because of their backing off of their jobs caused some disruption yesterday at major airports across the country, that they're the ones, in part, that made this deal happen? >> i definitely think it's a fair thought. when you take away paychecks for a month, this is bound to happen. it's not by choice. when people sign on for the
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government, they have a passion to serve. it's not about the money. it's not about politics. they want to serve. and when they decide that they can no longer get to work, it has nothing to do with politics. it has everything to do with not getting a paycheck. sure, this is bound to come to a head at some point. and here we are. >> how confident are you that it's not going to happen again? >> i would like to say i'm very confident. i think we learned a very big lesson from the shutdown. it shouldn't be happening again. i don't think it's a very good negotiating tool at all. i think we need to have conversations across the aisle. it's not about democrats and republicans. it's about what america needs to do. we'll have to see in three weeks. >> help us understand what it was like for you these last several weeks. >> well, you live within your means which is what we've always done. but when you don't have a paycheck, you live under that. which is difficult. you have to decide which bills are important and which ones can
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wait. luckily for us, we found a lot of creditors to be very sympathetic to our situation. and we were able to put off paying some of those bills. but not everyone is that sympathetic. it's been very stressful. >> did you ever have any concerns about the safety at airports? >> i have not. everyone that signs on for the tsa, customs, like i said, when you join the government, you have a passion, you have a desire to serve the public. i don't differentiate between republican or democrat. if you're in front of me on the checkpoint, i'm going to make sure that you're safe getting on to an aircraft. and everyone shares that mentality. >> if you could sit down with congress, with president trump, as they head into the next three weeks of negotiations, what would you want them to really understand about this, for you? >> that we don't need to hold 800,000 families hostage. this doesn't just affect the 800,000 employees. it's everyone that depends on these people. america needs to stay in
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business. we need to keep everything running so we can operate properly. and the safety of america depend it's on it. and we don't need to shut down the government to get a point across. >> brian turner, we appreciate you taking time to be with us. >> thank you for having me. >> welcome back to the working world. we're glad you're back at it again. >> thank you very much. >> absolutely. take care. >> the president maduro's struggle for power is escalating in venezuela. what if you had fewer headaches and migraines a month? botox® prevents headaches and migraines before they even start. botox® is for adults with chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. botox® injections take about 15 mins. in your doctor's office and are covered by most insurance. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems,
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been cultivating a relationship with caracas and not willing to let him go. so it will be extremely important to monitor here in venezuela because the situation can escalate even further. >> stefano, from a military perspective, when you've got only one president here, there should only be one president, is there any evidence that the military is going to stand down? >> reporter: the feeling that we have here is that top military brass. the top people that are closer to maduro are still on maduro's side. we're talking about generals, lieutenants, colonels. who also as well as the military men, they also oversee the legal economic activity that goes on here. because maduro has been in the past, the past few years, put in
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former trump campaign adviser roger stone was arrested and indicted for obstruction, making false statements, witness tampering. this is in connection to the special counsel russia investigation. at the center of the indictment is a mention that a senior campaign official was directed to contact stone about what dirt wikileaks might have on hillary clinton during the 2016 campaign. cnn correspondent phil black has more. >> the charges today relate in no way to russian collusion, wikileaks collaboration or any other illegal act in connection with the 2016 campaign. >> reporter: the longtime indictment with e-mails from wikileaks that could damage
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hillary clinton's presidential race in coordination with the trump campaign. >> in the trump campaign, to contact wikileaks? >> no, i reversed that. that is incorrect. >> reporter: but it paints a different picture. back in july 2016, when wikileaks released thousands of stolen documents from the dnc damaging to hillary clinton. then after that, the senior trump campaign official is directed to ask stone about more damaging information, organization 1, wikileaks might have. by august, stone gets an e-mail from person 1. now confirmed to cnn a stone associate jerome corsi, including these words. the word is the embassy plans two more dumps. impact plan to be damaging. with that, julian assange holed up in the ecuadorian embassy in london since 2016 evading arrest on often related matter and
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potential extradition to the u.s. within a few days of the e-mail, stone claims direct communication with assange. >> i actually have communicated with assange. i believe the next crunch of documents pertain to the clinton foundation. but there's no telling what the october surprise may be. >> reporter: and sent this e-mail to sam nunberg, i dined with my new pal julian assange last night. stone would later explain it was a joke but it wasn't. wikileaks maintenance maintainst even a back channel. tweaking friday this is stone and corsi braggadocio. amid all of please conflicting statements we know that stone and wikileaks have communicated directly from these private messages. saying wikileaks since he's been defending he and assange, and a
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staff member replies in attempts to distance from stone. we appreciate that, however the false communication of associations have been used to undermine the impact of our publications. don't go there if you don't want us to correct you. the charges against mr. stone do not allege that will stone lied about his lack of contacts with julian assange. but rather about his contacts with others and about documents reflecting those communications. and goes on to say that the office of the special counsel has never spoken with mr. assange. phil black, cnn, london. was this deal any different from what he's been offered for weeks now? and what does this mean for the fight ahead? plus the list of 2020 presidential candidates grows every day, but, first, everybody needs to know how to pronounce their names, coming up, jeanie
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imagine walking down the street, pick up a newspaper, open your front door and you discover someone who looks just like you. i mean, what would you do? well, the all if you cnn original film, three identical strangers dives into this real story of tripments separated at birth who are reunited with one another by chance at the age of 19. >> earlier, our colleagues had the chance to speak the them, two of the brothers who are featured in this film. listen to this conversation. >> so what was that like at 19 when you discovered you had these identical brothers, how did that change your life? >> everything changed. everything changed. first of all, it was a streak of
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fantastic, amazing, incredible feelings that most people have for a moment and for us it went through a decade or more. okay. it was fawn stop. >> i've seen this film. it is amazing. be sure to watch the award winning cnn original film "three identical strangers." it premiers sunday at 9:00 right here on cnn. so the list of democrats running for president in 2020, it keeps growing. >> they're not all easy to pronounce, let's say. you might have had a problem, some of us at times have had a problem, making sure we get it right. we want to get it right, so here's cnn's jeanie mos. >> reporter: there's a new democrat looking to run for president. if only we could pronounce his name. >> oh my gosh, pete, butti --
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>> reporter: you try saying the name of south bend indiana's mayor. >> i'm pete buttigieg. around here, they call my mayor pete. that's fine with me. >> reporter: so many wannabes have names that will trip you up. >> don't call him julien castro. >> my name is julien. >> it's kamela. couple it's like comma and add a la. >> kamela should be achamd of herself. >> reporter: it's a shame when both names are tricky. >> reporter: that's kristen gillibrand. >> kiersten. >> oh my goodness. >> reporter: and this guy's
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childhood name stuck. >> bet to o'rourke. >> reporter: it's beto rather than beto. >> referred to as beto. >> reporter: campaigns sometimes go along with the joke. >> i'm going to get me one of them bet as to signs. >> it's not kamela, it's not cam larks it's kamela. >> reporter: mayor pete's husband offered tips like buddha judge to pronounce this name that translates to lord of the poultry. even easy names get mangled, take bernie sanders. >> bernie sand wijs. >> reporter: sometimes a name is more than people can bite off. joanie mos, moos. >> moose? >> moose. >> it's moose, right? >> moose. >> reporter: cnn, new york. >> you are standing right in front of it.
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>> ha, ha, ha, we have to occasionally remind each other, it's moos. >> it's brutal weather heading across the mid-west and the northeast. you may be one of the 55 million people who will see their temperature fall below zero. i mean, way below. >> and there are some cities, maybe more than a few that are potentially going to break record lows. let's go down to cnn meerltologist allison chinchar, some of these numbers are unbelievable. >> yeah. it's not just records for the day. some could break all time record lows. chicago potentially being one of them. it's not just the cold. you also have snow to go along with it. we have another clipper system sunday into monday, it will be fast moving. it will still have the potential to dump a significant amount of snow.
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widespread six-to-eight inches. s the not out of the question to get over a foot of snow. here's the thing, once that clipper moves out that cold arctic air moves back in. guys, take a look at this he high temperature in minneapolis on wednesday the high, minus 12. she says, no. >> thank you so much. i can tell you it's not going to be opened in him we have a wall, a fenls, whatever they like to call it. if you don't have that, we're just not opening. >> we won't be opening until it's solved. we think this is a much bigger problem. i will sign a bill to open our government for three weeks until february 15th. >> the president caved, ending the 35-day shutdown with a deal that has no money for the wall. >> the central fine that launched the russia investigation has been directly linked to the campaign. >> there is no e

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