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are. >> it's time for a new generation of leadership in our country. >> "inside politics" the biggest stories, sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. to our viewers in the united states and around the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. the full u.s. government now back up and running. program's anti-immigration allies are furious. he agreed to end the month-long shutdown with no new border money, exactly what the democrats demanded. >> no one some ever underestimate the speaker as donald trump has learned. hopefully the president has learned his lesson. >> people say oh, you're so good at organizing your caucus. no, our values unify us. our unity is our power. and that is what maybe the president underestimated. >> plus the special counsel indicts a trump ally whose dirty tricks go back to the richard nixon raerks. the indictment against roger

stone alleges top trump campaign officials urged him to work with wikileaks to hurt hillary clinton. >> i will plead not guilty to these charges. i will defeat them in court. i believe this is a politically motivated investigation. i am troubled by the political motivations of the prosecutors. and as i have said previously, there is no circumstance whatsoever under which i will bear false witness against the president, nor will i make up lies to ease the pressure on myself. >> kamala harris makes it official. the california senator back home to declare her 2020 candidacy as the democratic field grows again. >> fundamentally, we also should understand that the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us. and so i say that to say what i know to be true which is when people wake up in the middle of

the night, be it a mom in compton or in kentucky, she is waking up having the same concerns about how she's going to be able to raise those babies, how she's going to be able to pay the rent, how she's going to be able to retire with dignity. >> with us to share their reporting, rachel bade of politico, jeff zeleny, asted herndon and sara murray. we begin with the u.s. government back in business. they are scrambling to get some 800,000 workers a month's worth of backpay asap. there's no new wall money in the deal trump signed. >> after 36 days of spirited debate and dialogue, i have seen and heard from enough democrats and republicans that they are willing to put partisanship

aside, i think, and put the security of the american people first. >> in a weekend tweet, the president insisted this was in no way a concession. and he vowed to get his wall money in the next round of negotiations. conservative immigration hard-liners are furious and the headlines from coast to coast are harsh. the deal, not that much different than the plan the president rejected to trigger the shutdown. y democrats agreed to a former committee process to negotiate border security, but there's no promise of any new wall money. remember, the president for a month, for a month, said he would not reopen the government without that money. including this tweet tuesday promising, no cave. but he did cave or blinked two days after caving in a related staredown with the new speaker of the house over the state of the union address. nancy pelosi is not tired of winning. >> i quote lincoln all the time. public sentiment is everything. with it, you can accomplish

almost anything. and we thank the public for weighing in so strongly, for paying attention. i can't assure the public on anything that the president will do, but i do have to say i'm optimistic. i see every challenge or every crisis as an opportunity. an opportunity to do the right thing for the american people. >> people around the president complain of a wasted month. they don't understand what he got from this. this is your job on capitol hill. now they have this formal committee. the president is trying to tell everybody, i didn't conseed. of course he conceded and caved. in the end, can he declare victory or is this process set in a way he'll not get his wall? >> we're hearing from republicans he's considering two options here. if three weeks go by and he still doesn't have his wall money there's talk about him declaring a national emergency. republicans are very divided on that. some think that was the way out of the shutdown. others are worried democrats will do something similar when they have the white house and

use emergency situations to enact a bunch of more progressive policies they hate. so it sounds like he is postponing things and he's saying right now i'm going to get my wall either way. we'll just have to wait and see if this bipartisan group of lawmakers can come up with anything. i'm very skeptical. but lawmakers have long talked about a wall for daca agreement of some sort. >> a wall for daca. would the president of the united states, this president of the united states, go that far away from his anti-immigration base, cut a deal, a big deal, a path to citizenship to status for the dreamers heading into his election campaign? >> it's hard to imagine that. it's also hard to imagine another shutdown. one thing i think of everything that led to this end on friday. yes, the president watching the air traffic slowdown at his favorite airport laguardia where his own plane was probably sitting on the ftarmac. but also the calls for mitch mcconnell. on thursday afternoon into the evening saying, mr. president, we're losing senate republicans.

there's a blow up at the senate republican lunch that day. people were furious. the idea of another shutdown, i don't believe senate republicans will be with him on this. i mean, and it is potential -- it's a possibility of the senate, you know, simply going around his back here. so my question is at the end of all of this, we are now at the beginning of the second half of this first term as president. this week also marked that anniversary. can he adjust to these new realities of governing, or is he going to continue repeating mistakes of the past? if he is, his own re-election is in peril. he is very flexible, at the very least, and then things may change but another shutdown is very unlikely. >> consistency is something -- you mentioned he's flexible, but consistency is something that republicans have been asking for for a long time. he's about to sign a deal with no wall money. then blinked because of the criticism. we had the shutdown.

now here we are. this is the new york daily news. the president pays attention to the headlines back home in new york. that is pretty damning for a man whose brand is strength. and the president says he didn't con concede. just remember, the president signed a deal president night that has no new money for the wall. after a month of saying this. >> i have made my position very clear. any measure that funds the government must include border security. has to. the only way you're going to do is t it is to have a physical barrier, meaning a wall. if you don't have that, then we're just not opening. >> we won't be open until it's solved. we think this is a much bigger problem. >> how do you get away from that? >> it's going to be hard. i think that this is indicative of a president who has tied himself to a politically unpalatable campaign promise. he's trying to make something happen that functionally congressional democrats and republicans just truly don't

have the appetite for. but i think this is also a president that hears the calls from his base that's very sensitive against the idea that he conceded more caved and so while the politics might not be there for another shutdown, we know the community he listens to, that base, that conservative media, the crowd that has his attention. if they are still divided, still calling for a more anti-immigrant policy or for him to stand up on this campaign promise again, we may see him dig in. do something like a national emergency. that can appease these crew. so i think that while the politics may be difficult for him to have another shutdown, we know the community he cares the most about might be pushing him in that direction. >> the president's base in conservative media are not necessarily the same thing. yes, they often have overlap, but there is a big block in the president's base that i think would still be with him if he did strike a deal. something like daca in exchange for a wall and then went out and said i'm a dealmaker.

i got you this wall. i always said we were not going to punish the kids brought here. we're going to get the bad people out of the country and we're still going to do this, and this is a victory. he could do a deal like that. spin it as a vibltctory. he's skilled in pr. but the steven millers, ann coulters of the world -- >> he keeps blinking, and that criticism, i agree, he could also say drones, the flying wall. look at my flying wall. you could spin a whole lot of things if he'd act consistently. but that's part of the new power dynamic in washington. and the president got a math lesson. the democrats in the house can say no. they control the chamber. to your point, senator mcconnell and others saying there are a dozen or more senators not with you. this is jim clyburn on friday. i don't know this because she's a woman but trump underestimated her. i told somebody i don't know what kind of nickname he'll find for nancy, but low energy won't

be one of them. this is the thing a lot of people don't understand. republicans are saying the president kept saying pelosi would blink. nobody on capitol hill thought she would blink. jared kushner took the lead on this. so surprised. only one democratic senator joe manchin went over to vote for the president's plan. nobody was surprised at that math. one of the concerns on the hill, democrats and republicans, is the white house doesn't get this world order. >> they just got a reality check. they met nancy pelosi for the first time. if you think back two months ago, pelosi was grapple with her own democratic caucus. a lot of democrats thought she was too old and had been around too long and they wanted new leadership. she struck a deal. they kept her around, and within three weeks she has bested the president of the united states, not only not getting him a dollar more of wall money but also getting him to postpone the state of the union. she came out victorious and consolidated her power. this will have a lasting impact

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welcome back. roger stone loves a circus. especially when he's the star. there he was friday night on primetime cable just hours after his nixonian performance on the steps of a federal courthouse in florida. yes, he says the special counsel may have caught him in a few lies, but he insists they were not deliberate and not central to robert mueller's investigative mission. >> i always said that there could be some process crime. there's still no evidence whatsoever that i had advanced knowledge of the topic, the subject or the source of the wikileaks disclosures. i never received any of the wikileaks disclosures. >> now stone was arrested predawn raid friday. the indictment charges him with lying to congress and with pressuring an associate to lie to congress about 2016 campaign contacts with wikileaks about hacked democratic e-mails. the indictment also notably alleges this. after the july 22, 2016, release

of stolen dnc e-mails by organization 1, that's wikileaks, a senior trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information organization 1 had regarding the clinton campaign. stone told the trump campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by organization 1. stone denies that. >> no senior campaign official told me to find out anything about wikileaks. that doesn't mean mr. mueller can't induce somebody to say that, but there will be no corroboration for it. where's the russian collusion, chris? where's the wikileaks collabration, the evidence that i received anything from wikileaks or julian assange and passed it on to donald trump or the trump campaign. simply does not exist. >> kerry cordero joins our conversation. what to you is most significant when you look at this latest indictment. it's hard to piece together all of the people who are charged and robert mueller gives us the

minimum of information. what's the most significant thing in these documents to you? >> two things. one thing is that roger stone wasn't just in touch with one person in the trump campaign about what wikileaks was going to or not going to release. he was in touch with multiple people in the trump campaign at senior levels. so there's various references in the indictment of roger stone that indicate that it was an ongoing set of communications between him and numerous, not just one, person in the trump campaign. >> much harder for anyone to say just a couple of guys doing this rogue back and forth? >> that's right. sometimes in the course of the manafort prosecution, we've heard trump surrogates say this was just paul manafort. this had nothing to do with the campaign. you cannot say that when it comes to the activities alleged in the stone indictment. the second piece is that there's one specific phrase in the indictment that says he was directed, past tense, was directed by someone who is not named in the indictment to go

back and find out more. and that someone was someone senior in the campaign. >> and to that point, we have what i'll call the coffee boy treatment playing out on twitter. this is the president tweeting saturday talking about the fake news media coverage. he brings up crooked h again. but roger stone didn't even work for me anywhere near the election. that's true. roger stone was not on the campaign payroll, but roger stone is a friend of this president, confidante of this president going back 30-plus years. and we know from your reporting and other reporting that there were visits to trump tower, meetings at trump tower from roger stone during the campaign. >> they were still in contact during the campaign. admittedly, less so as we got closer to election day but still in contact. roger stone was still running or involved with multiple super pacs out there supporting president trump. he was all in on this election and trying to get donald trump elected, even if he wasn't working directly inside the confines of the campaign. as you pointed out, these people

have a relationship that spans decades. roger stone was committed to getting donald trump elected and said along the way he'd do anything nose do so. now anything necessary to do so within legal limits but we'll see what the prosecutors say. >> roger stone now, look at the list. the president says this has nothing to do with me. certainly has something to do with the people around him. michael flynn, the former national security adviser, rick gates, the chairman paul manafort, campaign adviser papadopoulos, personal lawyer michael cohen, roger stone. one of the interesting things here is mueller tries to piece this together is if you go way back, manafort and stone were business partners a long time ago. roger stone was among those who encouraged the trump campaign to bring manafort in to run the confession. roger stone loves the spotlight. a documentary about roger stone including his good friend paul manafort. >> roger's relationship with trump has been so interconnected that it's hard to define what's

roger and what's donald. while it will be clearly a trump presidency, i think it's influenced by stone philosophy. >> as a lawyer, i think you'd probably tell these people, stop talking, right? or they record these things? >> and the indictment of stone, it shows that there are e-mails. there are texts. the special counsel's investigation has many communications through the evidence they've gathered between roger stone and multiple individuals in the trump campaign. and the hardest thing that i think is going to be for them to separate is there is this timeline in the middle of july 2016 where roger stone was going back and forth between people in the campaign and people he was taught communicating with that were going back to assange, the head of wikileaks and in the middle of that time is when donald trump went out and said, russia if you're listening, will you go find something of hillary clinton's e-mails? when you match up that date with the exchanges that were going

back and forth right around the same time in the indictment, there's something more going on there. >> so you just very smartly put together the chronology. and mueller knows a lot more than we do. the president and his team know more than we do. yet the white house press secretary says why are you asking me about this? >> this has nothing to do with the president and certainly nothing to do with the white house. this is something that has to do solely with that individual and not something that affects us here in this building. the specific charges brought against mr. stone don't have anything to do with the president. the charges brought against mr. stone have nothing to do with the president. have nothing to do with the white house. >> everybody got that? we know democrats on capitol hill have a newly aggressive -- have the house now to investigate. what about republicans when you see this? at what point -- i'm sorry. there's no direct allegation of bad conduct by the president himself in this indictment. let's be clear. however, the president hired stone or associated with stone, associated with cohen.

hired manafort. hired gates. hired flynn. >> when it comes to trump, it's crickets. they are waiting and not saying anything because they know if they go against the president, that their base is going to come after them and a lot of them have re-elections they're worried about. at the same time, a lot of republicans in the senate are ticked off that some of these characters have lied to them when they came to capitol hill. for instance, richard burr who is not running for re-election. perhaps that's why he's more adamant about getting to the truth on these matters. he resubpoenaed michael cohen after it came out that michael cohen had lied to congress. he did that before even the house democrats subpoenaed michael cohen. that shows some republicans are clearly frustrated, but they are not criticizing the president. it's crickets. >> as a lawyer, you've heard something in the sarah sanders that made you jump up. >> she did not say this doesn't affect the campaign. prior to this particular indictment, i think if we go back and listen to stiatements coming from the white house or trump surrogates, they say this has nothing to do with the

campaign. that was difference. that said this has nothing to do with the president or white house. now they recognize the campaign is implicated. >> she also didn't deny donald trump may have been the person giving this information to stone to go back to wikileaks and get more information. can you tell us if this was or was not donald trump, and she would not answer that. >> if she does answer that, that means she asked the president about it which means she'll be before the grand jury. that's why she'll not answer that question. google clinton administration on that one. 2019 begins with trump slump. his poll numbers are down. his white house can't seem to figure out washington's new balance of power. underwear ak that's actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique.

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he's not going to sign a bill that doesn't have money for the wall. if he gives in now, that's the end of 2019 in terms of him being an effective president.

that's probably the end of his presidency. >> well, beware the things you say on television is one lesson there. are we witnessing the end of the trump presidency? as senator graham suggested there? well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch, but we are witnessing a significant trump slump. let's look at the numbers and put this in the context of where we are coming out of this government shutdown. only 37% of americans, a cnn poll of polls, averaging the recent national polls. only 37% of americans approve of the job the president is doing. nearly 6 in 10 disapprove as he begins to ramp up for re-election. who is responsible for the shutdown? more americans -- this is abc/"washington post," this is fox news. more americans by a big margin blame the president than pelosi and the democrats for the shutdown. here's another way to look at it here. what should trump do? the president did what two-thirds of the country wanted him to do. end the shutddown, sign a spending deal without any wall money. two-thirds of the american people thought we didn't have to have a shutdown to begin with.

the 30% plus say refuse any budget deal unless it has your border wall money. you can change something like this but look where we are right now. nearly 6 in 10 americans say they'll definitely vote against the president in 2020. only 30%, his hard-core base, only 30%, say they'll definitely vote for him. this is not where you want to be at any time in your presidency. of course, polls can change, and they do change. but there's no doubt the president is in a bad place right now. even some of the loyal members of the trump choir confused. >> she has just whipped the president of the united states. he just reversed himself. that's a victory for nancy pelosi. it will be perceived as such on every television monitor and screen in the country. and to deny it is to try to escape from reality. >> he did not cave. he made a tactical decision. a strategy decision to pick the ground to fight on, folks.

the war isn't over yet. >> lou dobbs is right. judge jeanine not so much. in that case there, the question is, what now? we talked about this earlier. you are a president trying to ramp up for re-election. the democrats just won the house. you know the energy out there and what just happened in suburban america. and now, number one, you've done nothing to reach out to the middle. and you are anti-immigration, your own base is fractured questions? >> fractured. they do have questions and also the whole argument about the wall was relitigated in a way it hasn't been. always a campaign symbol, a mantra, build the wall, but never discussed until this last six weeks or so. okay. now it's not going to be a concrete wall. now it's not going to be across the whole border. it's really changed a lot. but regardless, the president is going to look for a way to win

out of this. so it's now going to be electronic. that's fine. but the reality here is he listens to all those voices. i'm anxious to see what sean hannity has to say next week and others. people want him to get to a place where he can do a deal. so i think that, it is still unknown exactly where this goes, but he wants to make some kind of a deal and has three weeks to do it. >> hannity's initial reaction was the president showing leadership here by flipping on everything he had said for a month. signing something -- hannity sticking with him. who will the president follow when you have his own base fractured. this is ann coulter, a conservative provocateur. likes to stir things up. the president pays attention. cable news pays attention. good news for george herbert walker bush. he's no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as president of the united states. there are some republicans, "the new york times" wrote a piece about this today, who suggest that maybe this opens the -- fractures in the republican party maybe increases the possibility of primary challengers. >> what the president -- we know

that these are most importantly the voices he listens to. even if it's a small percentage of the country, 35% of the electorate at large, it's the part that has his ear the most. he'll hear these splintering voices. folks like ann coulter, more conservative media that came out and said the president caved. we saw tweets of him pushing up against that. how can the republican capitalize on something like that for a 2020 primary challenge is a whole separate question. someone like a john kasich, someone like a jeff flake, a larry hogan, the people who have talked about it are not people who are going to capitalize on this anti-immigrant sentiment. they're going to play the middle of the road, never trump, more independent voice. it's interesting because the ones we have, this is a challenge from the -- the people he's upset are on his right and the folks upset about 2020 and the people who may primary challenge him are not there. >> the question is who does he want to be? which has been a question from

day one of the trump presidency. who does he want to be at this moment of divided government? does he want to, as he said, try to do infrastructure, work with the democrats or the last month became about one thing. the wall, the wall, the wall, the wall, and look at this tweet from democratic congressman of california taking the art of the deal cover and putting nancy pelosi on it. how does he react to this? all of the coverage that he just lost that there's a chamber of congress that can say no and it's led by a woman. >> he looks really weak right now. does he take a lesson from this? we've talked to a lot of republicans since friday who are saying we hope he took a lesson and he'll no longer listen to the freedom caucus, the most conservative caucus in the house when it comes to these issues. remember, it was advice from conservatives that led him down this path in the first place. mark meadows from north carolina picked up the phone and called him that morning when he said

initially he was going to continue funding the government without the wall. called him and said don't do this. we'll be with you. it's not enough to have the base with you. democrats were not going to blink on that. just because the base is with you didn't mean you'll get a win. we'll see if he listens to them. does their influence diminish or is he going to go with more leadership? >> what does he learn out of this at a time when, what does he want to do for the rest of the year, now that the sg government is back open. will we have another shutdown? and also all the mueller stuff is still throughout as well. not a good moment for the president. michael cohen subpoenaed. stone charged. trump caved on the shutdown. bruised trump faces uncertain 2020 prospects. all presidents have bad weeks. this is a bad month. >> the best news for the president is probably in this new "washington post"/abc poll that says about 55% of the american public still opposes impeachment proceedings. that's the one glimmer of hope that a small majority of americans do not want to see

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primary voters in 2016 were black voters in the 2020 primary. that's what kamala harris is counting on as she goes through. in south carolina, the biggest constituency in the democratic presidential primaries, black women, black men. kamala harris hoping that helps. she'll have competition from others but she's hoping. history tells us, you can't just count on south carolina. you have to do at least okay in iowa and new hampshire to have momentum going on forward. listen to this pitch to sorority sisters. kamala harris in south carolina saying, let's get off to a good start. >> from we, the members of alpha kappa alpha sorority incorporated, we stand on the shoulders of women who were leaders who 111 years ago said to us that we must honor sisterhood and we must honor service. they said stand together. take care of each other.

and serve your country as leaders. and that's what we do today. >> just back from south carolina, which is always a fascinating place in the sense that iowa and new hampshire tend to winnow the field, knock some candidates out. nevada has moved up. south carolina is the place that says now we're getting serious. give me some of your experience with senator harris and others. this is todd rutherford in the "l.a. times." someone's mama could be running and people wouldn't vote for her if they didn't think she could beat donald trump. is that the dynamic on the ground? >> electability is most important. they want someone who can beat donald trump and democrats are having this pragmatic moment where that outpunditrying themselves. whether that's a question of identity or ideology. who can beat the current president because they're so enraged by this current administration. what people like senator harris

and senator warren need to do is create a moment, a movement which gets people out of that mode because currently you'll talk to folks and they're like, why don't i just vote for joe biden or someone who i know is a known quantity. and the people who present the future of the democratic party who represent the more liberal progressive wing are trying to get folks out of that. they are saying let's have an ideological driven movement. someone that brings folks together and creates a coalition that gets us out of that strict electability mode. so that's what they are trying to do. whether they're successful at it is a whole other question. >> that's what's great about the early part of the process. what do you isn't you have to settle on what do you want? among new entries this past week was a guy most americans don't know. a 37-year-old mayor from south bend, indiana. served in afghanistan. openfully gay. he says, i can do this. >> when you run at this age, your face is your message in a lot of ways.

part of what we're looking at is the idea that it's time for a new generation. if you're planning to be here for decades, just look at the world a little differently than some of what we've heard from the president and others who seem to say, this isn't going to be my problem. >> look, pete buttigieg knows he has an uphill climb here but he's a rhodes scholar as well. he is someone who is going to have a voice in this conversation. i thought he made an interesting point. he said he would be donald trump's age in 2054. and that's how long it will take to be a -- paying back the tax plan. and he talks about climate change. so he definitely is talking to a generation of voters. there's always people in a crowded field like this who may be running for something else ultimately. vice president. but as of now he's in the conversation. one thing is interesting going back to kamala harris. iowa and new hampshire for all the talk about maybe they're not

as important this year. barack obama never would have won that south carolina primary had he not won the iowa caucuses because that gave him the validity, the legitimacy among african-american voters who i remember at the time said they don't want to waste our vote simply on a black candidate. they wanted to see if he could win elsewhere. we do not know how this field will shake up and who can goy to distance and climb from the lows they'll have here. it's a crowded field with more coming this week. more senators getting in. >> more getting in this week. pressure on bernie sanders to make his decision in part because elizabeth warren is out there early. interesting, i think we'll have a great policy debate. you mentioned climate change. kamala harris's record, justice reform. a 2% annual tax on households with assets over $50 million. a 3% annual tax on households with assets over a billion dollars. 75,000 families would be hit by this. essentially trying to say her big issue has been income disparity. all these megawealthy people out there. great. we'll take more of your money to

help pay for other priorities. >> you're just talking about how in south carolina they're talking about picking somebody who can win and beat trump and that's their first priority. democrats right now are really grappling with that. you have warren with her wealth tax. you have kirsten jigillibrand backing this whole idea of making the u.s. economy energy efficient in ten years which would be a huge change for the business community. and you have ideas like medicare for all. so the democrats are going to have to think about these things carefully. can these ideas win in florida and ohio? these swing states that went for trump and, you know, it's going to be tough for them. >> is the country ready to go -- what worked for the democrats in the house race in 2018. is the country ready to go there in the presidential race? our reporters share from their notebooks, including fresh reporting on hillary clinton and, yes, 2020. hi, i need help getting an appointment with my podiatrist.

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let's head one last time around the "inside politics" table and ask our reporters to share something from their political notebooks. rachel? >> fresh off their shutdown victory, house democrats just a couple hours later were already pivoting to the next major battle with the president. that's oversight on the russia investigation. just a few hours after she signed a bill, nancy pelosi to reopen the government and send this bill to the white house on friday, she issued a statement basically saying this new roger stone indictment was basically proved there was a deliberate, coordinated attempt by top trump officials to influence the 2016 election. pelosi has been very careful in the language she uses twhen comes to russia. she's talked a lot about bipartisan bills and that's totally evaporated and is being replaced by more aggressive tone. she's also scheduled a conference on tuesday, a closed door meeting with house

democrats and they'll get a full update on mueller's investigation and where they think it is. of course, they don't know for sure. and where they'll go in their own oversight. onward. >> serious nedge in that statement. jeff? >> so hillary clinton is telling people that she's not closing the doors to the idea of running in 2020. let's just let that sink in. i'm told by three people that she was telling people that, look, given all this news from the indictments, particularly the roger stone indictment, she talked to several people saying, look, i'm not closing the doors to this. now it does not mean there's a campaign in waiting or a plan is in the works, but she is still believing there maybe, could be a possibility under the argument of this. i won the popular vote. all of this has vindicated what happened in 2016. so one close friend told me yesterday it would surprise me greatly if she actually did it but goes on to add, she is still not closing the doors. most losing presidential candidates never totally close

the doors to running for president. it's something really hard to do. i put this in that category. but i think we have to at least leave our mind open to the possibility that she is still talking about it. the question is, she wants to take on trump. could she win a democratic primary to do it? i don't know the answer to that. >> spicy sunday brunch talk courtesy of jeff zeleny. astead? >> i came back from south carolina and posed the same question to senator warren and senator harris as if they'd break up tech giants and what to do to rein in folks like amazon and facebook and google. a way to show the difference between the two of them. senator warren talks about antitrust law, the possibility of breaking those up and says that's something that she thinks needs to happen. senator harris, who, of course, is a senator from california, has worked with these companies for a while, demured and said i'll get back to you later. it's an interesting way to know at the beginning of those two campaigns, they are focusing on different things. and senator warren is way more

comfortable in talking about issues like that. >> another fascinating -- a lot of policy. we're focusing early on, on the personalities but the policy is going to be great. >> we've talked a lot about roger stone. people looare looking at this indictment and saying, this is the beginning of indictments that are going to be raining down. next up is donald trump jr. and jared kushner, and i would urge a lot of caution in that view. this is the first time we've seen the special counsel's office bring a case jointly with another u.s. attorney's office. that could be another indication among the many other signs that they may be winding things down. >> winding down and handing things down to people that can continue them. >> is howard schultz just trying to sell more books or about to give democrats serious heartburn? he's the subject of a "60 minutes" piece that comes just as a new book hits the shelves and as the life-long democrat weighs running for president as

an independent. schultz is getting an ear full from democrats in person and on social media complaining a progressive running as an independent would siphon democratic votes and perhaps help president trump win re-election. ballot access is a giant and expensive hurdle for any independent candidate. many democrats hope in the end schultz turns away. but schultz has discussed the nuts and bolts with democratic and republican campaigns. people say they're detailed, and they are serious. keep an eye on that one. that's it for "inside politics." thanks for sharing your sunday morning. catch us weekdays at noon eastern. "state of the union" is up next with jake tapper. guests include marco rubio and julian castro. have a great sunday. pour on the lactaid, 100% real milk, just without that annoying lactose. mmm, that's good.

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♪ trump backs down. the federal government is back open after a sudden concession by president trump. >> i will sign a bill to open our government. >> but without getting a single dollar for the wall. what was the point? republican senator marco rubio weighs in next. >> plus -- dirty trickster? mueller indicts president trump's longtime friend and adviser roger stone. >> i know that i'm innocent. >> why did so many trump associates lie about dealing with russia or wikileaks? person number 1 from mueller's indictment, jerome corsi, is here to answer our questions. and -- getting to know you. the 2020 democratic presidential field grows. >> i'm running for president of the united states. >> it's time for a new