welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. not guilty is roger stone's plea today as he joins a long list of the trump insiders indicted by the special counsel. the acting attorney general, however, raised eyebrows saying he believes robert mueller is close to wrapping up. so should we believe the president or his top intelligence officials. the intel is on capitol hill and contradicting the boss on iran, climate change and more. two new books out there paint fresh pictures of trump white house chaos. one is by a former white house aide who says he helped the president with the enemies list. the book includes a scathing presidential tweet. >> he was nothing more than a gopher. >> nice. >> he signed a nondisclosure

agreement. he is a mess. >> there it is. i knew that was a possibility when i wrote this book. i know who jesus says i am. it doesn't matter who donald trump or anyone else says i am. >> back to that a little bit later, but we begin the hour with roger stone in court. again, stone's lawyers a little under an hour ago entering a plea of not guilty to seven charges brought by the russia investigation counsel. we'll see stone again in court on friday, 1:30 p.m., in front of his trial judge, judge herman jackson. he was dressed in a blue suit with a blue pocket square and he said nothing. sara murray is outside the court in washington. the governor here said the case is a complex case. take us inside the proceeding and what that means. >> reporter: it means it could be a while before we get to trial, but as you pointed out, it won't be long before we see both sides in court again. this was just the magistrate judge that was here to do the

arraignment. they were all in and out within about 15 minutes. roger stone officially entered his not guilty plea, but both sides are due back in court on friday afternoon. that's when i think we'll get a better view of what issues are at play in this case as both sides prepare for trial. we expect roger stone to come out and speak to the cameras after this appearance in court. he did not do so. he appeared to flash a nixon victory v sign from some people who were able to snap photos on his way out, then he took off. there were a number of protesters chanting "traitor," chanting "lock him up," so it was certainly a chilly reception here at the courthouse, but as you pointed out, john, we don't know much about what this case will look like. there is a possibility, too, that prosecutors could bring additional charges against stone. we'll see what's ahead in the coming weeks and months. >> maybe we'll know a little more after the trial hearing with the federal judge.

here to join us, jackie cosinis sand others. we know roger stone likes to talk. is that just his legal team saying not today? >> i think he's listening to his legal team. i texted one of his legal team and he said there is no need for him to come out to the cameras. one of the things i think we're about to see is a change in the way roger stone is going to treat this. we're used to seeing a bit of a circus that follows him around, but these are serious charges. these are seven counts. there's obstruction, witness tampering, false statements, and at some point i think his legal team believes that they've got to treat this very seriously. this judge he's going to see on friday, amy berman johnson, will not put up with the circus.

i think they realize they have a fight against the government here, because there is tons of evidence. >> he calls this a process crime. he says maybe he said things to congress that weren't true, or he didn't mean it or his recollection was bad. but the key to congress, which he made clear, if you are caught lying to congress, you'll be hauled into court. the indictment said a senior campaign official was directed to contact roger stone to move forward. what else in wikileaks now? what's going to happen and when will did come out? how long does it take in court to learn who directed whom to contact stone? >> well, we saw sarah huckabee sanders dodge that question many, many times last week, and we've also seen the white house try to separate themselves from roger stone as happens with officials that are indicted who are connected to this white house. it seems to be a pattern. you know, i think with stone they said, oh, he's been a consultant to lots of people. we know roger stone has been

with donald trump as his political adviser for many decades at this point. >> i want to play here, and some of the characters involved here are characters. this is jerome corsi, who is one of the people roger stone was in touch with during the campaign. he concedes at trying to point out, do you know anyone who has a relationship with julian assange. this is important, the timing of one of these conversations. >> do you have evidence or observation that suggests roger stone sought wikileaks help in timing the release of the e-mails around the "access hollywood" tape? >> i can't prove that at that time all. i had one call from roger. as i recall it, roger disputes this on the day that wikileaks did begin in october, dropping the final e-mails on john positidesta which roger was say

we have this timing issue. his tape is going to be released and we would like assange to be releasing e-mails now. >> that's what stone told you? >> that's my recollection. >> and did you tell robert mueller that? >> oh, yes. >> we saw more of the case before the trial starts. if you remember, the "access hollywood" tape came out, and the president was bragging about things saying if they happened, the truth will come out. was there coordination or was roger stone, as he says, simply a blowhard predicting things he really didn't know? >> what's interesting is in the indictment that was unsealed on friday, there is no mention of this. and we do know, certainly from talking to roger stone's legal team, it appears from some parts of the indictment that they believe jerome corsi's version of events, not roger stone's

version. but this is not in there. but i don't know whether this is something we'll see later on, perhaps a superceseding indictment. or if they go on and roger doesn't cut a deal if this is something they present to the court. you're right, it's a question that hasn't been surfaced. >> so that point, sara murray reporting last night that the defense attorney for robert mueller, which is a friend of roger stone, that they're fighting a subpoena of going to the grand jury. the other question is how long? this is the acting attorney general matthew whitaker. the president's choice for being attorney general, bill barr, will get confirmed next week. he's asked the question of what does he know about robert mueller and the timetable? >> the investigation is, i think, close to being completed, and i hope that we can get the

report from director mueller as soon as possible. >> now, some democrats went a little crazy after that, saying why is he talking about that, it's not protocol, let the special counsel say when the special counsel is done. i'm going to say again, i get their suspicion because of everything president trump has done. there is nothing in the public record that matthew whitaker got in robert mueller's way. he said, i'm fairly brief, i think he's going to be done soon. why was that so confidential? >> if he's fully briefed, does he fully brief the president? he's so loyal to the president in every other way. some call him a lackey, some call him loyal. pick your word there, but was he just answering a question and got ahead of his skis there? all of it is possible. >> those also kind of put some attention on the fact of what happens to that report once

mueller completes it? and that's where bill barr's comments at his confirmation hearing a few weeks ago really came into focus when he seemed to signal that maybe not all of it would become public. i think the move on capitol hill to make that public is possible with the movement of chuck grassl grassley, a republican, chuck blumenthal, a republican from connecticut. if it exonerates the president, that's great, and that should be shown to the public. if this report is skewed dramatically, you will hear from republicans and democrats. >> the republican part seems to be growing. >> john, one of the funniest parts of that video, you can see chris wray, fbi director, standing behind him and his eyebrow kind of goes up. and you can see him thinking, is there a trap door here we can push him down, because no one

wants him to be saying this from the justice department, and certainly no one at the justice department pd that to be the case. >> the president will be hauled up in a few weeks. up next for us, the intelligence community warning lawmakers that the 2020 election will be another target for russia and other countries, too. fifteen percent or moreo on car insurance?ou did the little piggy cry wee wee wee all the way home? weeeeeee, weeeeeee weeeeeee weeeee weeeeeeee.

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korea, thpt to seek more. >> north korea wants to completely have its nuclear capabilities and refuse to give up nuclear weapons because they view nuclear weapons critical with regime survival. >> and isis has been in all effects defeated. that's why the president wants to bring troops home from syria. the intel chief says they're actually still planning attacks. >> while isis is in territorial defeat in isis and syria, the guerrillas are directing supporters worldwide. isis is intent on resurging and still commands thousands of fighters in iraq and syria. >> and iran, remember the white house has insist the tehran not abiding by the nuclear deal it signed with the obama administration. >> they are making some preparations that would increase their ability to take a step

back if they make that decision, so at the moment, technically they're in compliance. >> manu raju live from capitol hill. obviously who's on first questions. the president says one thing, the intel chief says another. any big surprises today? >> yeah, the degree with which the intel chief broke with the white house clearly the main headline today. isis you mentioned the fact the president wants to begin that troop drawdown and suggests that isis has been all but defeated. that is not the view from these military national security experts in this room, also by north korea. the question was asked time and time again to dan coats, officer of intelligence, but also whether north korea has changed behavior in any way. he said, oh, the nuclear testing not happening. there is still a pursuit for a long-range nuclear missile. there is also not really any evidence of changing any

behavior when it comes to human rights. that was according to gina haspel. there were also things they didn't say that were surprising, including they were questioned by ron whitehead specifically about the putin meetings and why the president did not try to release those interpreter's notes at the meeting. dan coats said he would not talk about that in an open session, he wants to talk about that in closed testimony that's going to happen this afternoon, the classified session. he also wanted to discuss why the intelligence community has not green-lighted the release of transcripts that witnesses who have come before the house intelligence committee testified to during the russia investigation last congress. you'll recall that house intelligence committee agreed to publicly release those transcripts, but coats would not explain why they would not allow that to be released. we'll tell you whether the members shed any light after the

closed hearing, but there are things the protesters were saying, but also what they wouldn't say in public revealing, john. >> he may think he's anchored the boss enough. manu raju, appreciate that live from capitol hill. it is striking sometimes. iran, isis, north korea, china, russia. these are not laughing matters in terms the american people deserve to understand from their leaders what's out there? what's the risk? what's our government doing about it, and in some cases what the president said is 180 degrees opposite from the pros who look at this every second of their workday say. >> if you go back in history, and you go all the way back to the vietnam war, when the military was complicit in misleading the american public as to how that war was going, and there was even a libel lawsuit between cbs and william westmoreland about that.

the military has been since then increasingly determined to not be part of that kind of misleading. and this president is challenging that like no other. because there is pressure on these various agencies to comport with his view of the world, and it isn't so. you can draw another example, which is at the border, where the president cites all sorts of things happening at the border, the latest which is women being tied up in the backseat of a car with duct tape on their mouths. there isn't evidence of any such thing happening, and the intelligence agencies are going to try to do what they can for the president, but ultimately they want to stand up for what is truly the case and that's what you saw out there today. >> an issue that you wouldn't think would come up in these hearings, but climate change.

climate schang now danger because of ir reverse are i belie believe. >> he's still confusing training. >> we're watching that hearing and allies don't know who to listen to. allies don't know who speaks for the president because the president just says something kmeetly different. it's not only could you seeing confusion honestly. who is running the shots here? >> not only that, james mattis, who is probably the most trusted member of the cabinet on capitol hill and by and large didn't agree with it. >> given our 2016 experience, a lesser degree. what about 2020?

yeah, russia is still at it. >> we assess that foreign actors will view the 2020 u.s. elections as an opportunity to advance their interest. we expect them to refine their capabilities and add new tactics as they learn from each other's experiences and efforts in previous elections. >> that's the director of national intelligence, dan coats. the fbi director, chris wray, on the same subject said that is the assessment, not only that the russians continue to do it in 2018, but they continue to adapt their model and other countries try to learn from that. >> it's all about senator warner, i believe frrks virginia have been asked a year ago if they believe russia is come police i. so here we are on the dawn of another presidential election here, and we can see all around us -- this is a big

conversation, when you is a economics and national security and nicks -- nixon. on some of the security issues, listen to the fbi director here say by far when he looks at the big wall of flashing alarms, it's china. >> as i look at the landscape today and over the course of my career -- i still think of myself as a little bit young -- the chinese threat is more divert, more vexing, more challenging, more comprehensive and more concerning than any counter-intelligence threat i can think of. >> on the upside he said it took time to understand this, but in terms of corporate

cybersecurity, building islands in the south china sea, we don't hear about it much from our president. >> what the president talks about often is that great relationship and the great friendship he has with the chinese president. i'm wondering whether all these warnings from agency officials this morning will spur congress to work on perhaps some election security measures over the next couple of months, but again, that has to get signed by the president and we'll see if they can agree on that. >> you see the recent competition with waway. you see the government getting there. in terms of the comprehensive picture, a little lacking, i would argue. he says he won't be the spoiler to help trump get reelected. but first another possible 2020 contender in patriot nation sharing some risky shade. >> you have tom brady, who has been in more super bowls than any other quarterback, but i just want to point out that two

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howard schultz is getting an immediate taste of democracy in action on social media, on tv, and yes, take a look, up close and personal. >> don't help elect trump. you egotistical billionaire. go back to getting ratioed on twitter. go back to davos with the other billionaire elite who think they know how to run the world. that's not what democracy needs. >> that's fun, right? the former ceo of starbuck's is now thinking of running for president as an independent. that he's generating so much attention and so much emotion is a good thing, schultz says. >> i must be doing something right to garner this much attention and this much interest. i think republicans are looking for a home. and if republicans have a choice between a far left liberal

progressive candidate on the democratic side or president trump, president trump is going to get reelected. >> that's his argument, that in the most polarized america on record, more so by the day, america is ready for a centrist independent. a life-long democrat shares both of their views and likely they will reelect trump. >> if you're starting this system from scratch, never mind the electoral college, this might be good conversation. of course, washington is broken in in some respects. but they're not starting the rules from scratch. there is a system, right or wrong, so it's tough to break through t. it. he has a lot of money and if he's willing to spend it, okay. the worry from democrats, i think, is very real. bill burton, a former obama

campaign adviser who was there from the very beginning of the obama campaign. he worked for the gephardt campaign back in '94. he said this. he said, i don't accept the premise that any of the front runners can beat donald trump. he's basically saying there isn't anyone that can do it, but we'll see how much tolerance he has to be screamed at. >> that's going to happen. that book tour will replay itself over and over again around the country, especially if he starts to get traction. >> the traction part -- listen here. he has a new book. he says he's going to take three months to travel the country. he's putting together the staff if he decides to run. but listen to this at the end.

this seems to suggest that if he doesn't see a boom in the polls maybe he'll reconsider. >> let me go back to what i said earlier. nobody wants to see donald trump removed from office more than me. if i decide to run for president as an independent, i will believe and have the conviction and the courage to believe that i can win. i can't answer that question today. but i'm certainly not going to do anything to put donald trump back in the oval office. >> it does seem to suggest, you know, he's got a plan. he's going to do this for a couple months, see if he can change the numbers. if it shows him at 10 or 12% taking votes from democrats, he would say no. >> the timing doesn't work that way. two or three months from now you have what amounts to sort of irrelevant early polling that doesn't really say a whole hell of a lot about where these candidates are ultimately going to be. and, you know, if he goes all

the way down, you know, and jumps in the race and is in the race for months, he could still end up being a spoiler, and the question would be does he really say that he'll drop out of the race at the last minute if it looks like that's where things are heading? that's not human nature. once you build a big organization like that, it's not likely he'll do that. >> who knows in the age of trump. who knows. we live in volatile times, but the instance now seems he would betray them. >> god bless howard schultz. run, howard, run. >> no disrespect to you, but you went on a podcast, you were on "the view." why aren't you in new hampshire or iowa right now? >> my opinion is there isn't

enough structure for him to win. but this is america. if he wants to run, i say have at it. >> do you see senator kennedy all the time? >> that man is a quote factory and i think all of us are grateful for his presence day in and day out. >> someone also who could have been a spoiler said he will not run for president even though he teased it from time to time. >> will it be howard schultz as an independent? will there be one, will there be two? it's january 2019. maybe some will just decide to skip 2020. only genuine idaho potatoes have the perfect taste and texture to get your meal started right.

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top of the hour political radar today, the u.s. at the mexican border is expected to cost more. and more military active duty will be needed for security support. we're told about 2300 u.s. troops are at the border right now. the state department telling americans in no uncertain terms, do not travel to venezuela. the advisory issued a short time ago cites crime, civil unrest, poor health facilities and the arbitrary rest and detention of u.s. citizens in venezuela. the government there in turmoil as opposition leaders call for massive protest, demanding

president nicolas maduro give up power. mcconnell saying isis is still a threat and urging the troops to stay put for now. >> for security of our own shores, there is still a dprgre deal of work to be done. we know that if left untended, these conflicts will reverberate right here in our own cities. >> again, another example -- i don't want to call it cracks, but you see more and more republicans, including there the leader, standing up to say, mr. president, you're wrong on a big issue, this time foreign policy. >> foreign policy is where republicans on capitol hill have been willing more often to defect with the president on these issues, which has been really fascinating to watch. look over on the house side.

they're planning on renewing their push to end the u.s. support for the saudi coalition in yemen, and we saw many republican votes that picked up in the senate last congress, and if the democratic house pushes that again, it will be real interesting to do what the republican senate does. >> as we head toward a campaign here, we'll see. that's the leader of the united states senate. that is not insignificant standing up and telling your president he's wrong. up next, new poll numbers with just 644 days left before the election. write it down. 644 days left before the election. early trouble for the president? also big question marks among democrats. uh-oh! guess what day it is??

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today some early warning signs for trump's reelection hopes and some giant question marks about the democrats and their 2020 field. a brand new "washington post"

abc news poll finds that 66% of all americans say they definitely would not vote for president trump in 2020. even among republicans and republican-leaning voters, nearly one in three said they would like the gop to nominate someone else. again, it's still january 19, but those numbers do suggest a 2020 hoping for the democrats. which democrat? a majority of democratic leading voters are not sure which candidate they want for president. from vice president joe biden, who hasn't announced if he's going to run yet, leads the pack by 9%, followed by kamala harris, she's at 8%, bernie sanders, 4% say they want president trump, and beto o'rourke maybe out there still driving somewhere, 3%. the rest get 2% or less. so the democratic race wide open, which is what makes it so fascinating and interesting. it's early. poll numbers can change, and

president trump and candidate trump has defied logic far too many times to count. however, if you look at the poll majority, they say definitely not. >> the biggest applause i heard when i was in des moines and we did several of the democratic candidates was they wanted a candidate who could beat donald trump. it truly is the beginning of the shopping season and people don't know these candidates. there are senators, a few governors out there, so people are picking them over. but as far as the former vice president joe biden, he just said a few minutes ago to arlett sines who is flying with him from florida, he said, i don't think there is any hurry but there is a bigger hurry to decide personally, that his family is still thinking. i was asked yesterday by several people, is joe biden going to

run? there is a hunger for maybe someone new. >> that's always a challenge, and if you have someone who has an established brand, i won't call him old, someone who has been around, you want to solidify them before it goes away. you saw kamala harris last night. she was in the town hall. very impressive performance, but is she opening herself up for criticism? especially when she's asked that democrats want medicare for all. how would that work? >> to reiterate, you support the medicare for all originally co-sponsored by bernie sanders. >> yes. >> i believe it would totally limit independent insurance. for everybody with their on insurance, they wouldn't be able to keep it? >> the idea is everyone gets access to medical care and you don't have to go through the process of going through an insurance company. let's eliminate all that. let's move on. >> i can tell you democrats on the hill that i spoke to this

morning were not jumping on board. this seemed to be -- they were focused more on fixing the aca and making sure that people would be able to keep their health care than throwing out the whole system. and i think you're going to hear that from more established democrats. this also shows the left is rising in the democrtic party, and that's who these candidates, harris -- i think you'll hear some of the other candidates start to play to that base. >> to that point, the amow d aforementioned howard schultz say if you want to run, come to des moines, make your case. howard schultz says wait a minute. >> you just played senator harris saying she wants to abolish the insurance industry. that's not correct. that's not american. what's next? what industry are we going to abolish next?

the coffee industry? to think we should get rid of the insurance industry, again, this is exactly the situation. it's far two extremes on both sides and the silent majority of america does not have a voice. >> i don't know about the far too extreme part. that's the point he wants to make, but campaigns are supposed to be about ideas. so are the democrats going to litigate, let's just fix and improve obamacare. after losing some elections on it, we just want an election defending obamacare. let's fix it or let's disrupt the system and go to this medicare for all. >> before you even get to the question of would howard schultz actually take votes away from one side or the other, that's manafort heaven if you're a republican seeking to demonize the left and to sort of describe the democratic party as on the radical left, you can point to what howard schultz just said and say, see, we're the reasonable ones. we're the ones that don't want to eliminate all private

insurance in the country, don't want to eliminate i.c.e. and all that kind of thing. his candidacy or however long it lasts could be a real help to donald trump and other republicans. >> michael bloomberg, the former independent republican mayor of new york, now says if he runs for president, he will run as a democrat. a lot of people say to howard schultz, he's a more sensitive guy. he talked about pie in the sky ideas. here he is talking about howard schultz running as an independent. >> number one, you can't run as an independent because of the electoral college requiring a majority. and number two, i think all it would do would be to reelect donald trump, and back in 2016 when i looked at it, i said i did not want to be the one to give us donald trump, so i did not run as an independent. wasn't able to get into any of the parties through their

primaries, and you got donald trump, anyway. >> he publicly ak nojcknowledge looking at it in 2016. that's not the only time he looked at it running as an independent. hey, it gets you points with democrats, some of whom are skeptical. but he's trying to tell schultz to go away. >> the conversation i had with bill burton, he seemed way f far ahead than where schultz sees himself. i think snoenator harris needs add a little. let's see how she answers next time if she adds a little nuance to that. she also signed that bill and is a co-sponsor to sign another bill. >> and the way jake phrased the question about, can you keep

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power struggles. today the tale of two tell-alls. by chris christie, "let me finish." the president, choosing to ignore chris christie so far, attacking him and he says, so what. >> sometimes you're just like, what are we doing? one of the points i make is for him, everything is personal. everything is a personal relationship so that manifests itself in foreign affairs. it's like that the way he interacts with the staff. it's like that when he has these political vendettas. >> he talks about preparing an enemies list with the president, people on the staff. okay. >> i can guarantee you he and his publisher were not upset when the president called him a gopher in a tweet, because i'm sure they're happy that gets even more publicity for the book. >> do these books have any

impact at this point? you've had a lot of talk about a chaos and turmoil. >> it's just a few more details, but it's not presenting something we don't know. to be a detail in the chris christie book, the president thought the russia investigation would end with a fire with michael flynn is extraordinary. >> and chris christie saying he agreed. >> and he wants to fire james comey. he thought that was a good idea. >> he says, i want to know who fired me because i know it wasn't you. you're just here as the executioner. who fired me? the president elect? because, steve, if you don't tell me, i'm going to say it was you. jared kushner? >> he did put jared kushner's father in jail. there really wasn't a whole lot of love there to begin with. >> very diplomatic. a whole lot of love not there to begin with.

>> he writes a book that talks about all sorts of dysfunction around his friend, the president. thank you for joining us on "inside politics." we'll be back tomorrow. don't go anywhere. brianna keilar starts right now. have a good afternoon. thanks, john. i'm brie anna keilar live from e cnn washington headquarters. roger stone enters his plea but what does robert mueller have in store for him? and officials keeping america safe directly contradicting the president's claims on climate change and iran in alarming testimony. plus, why john bolton scribbled notes about why u.s. troops are raising concerns. and kamala harris becoming the latest 2020 contender to pitch medicare for all,