that's in it. this is not a photo from the pre-civil rights south. not from high school either. it's a medical school yearbook photo from 1984 and one of the man in it, either the klansman or the guy in black face is the democratic governor of virginia. he is one of the two. a few years ago he posted this video on twitter. >> my fellow virginians, earlier today i released a statement apologizing for behavior in my past that falls far short of the standard you set for me when you elected me to be your governor. i believe you deserve to hear directly from me. that photo and the racist and offensive attitudes it represents does not reflect that person i am today or the way that i have conducted myself as a soldier, a doctor, and a public servant. i am deeply sorry.

i cannot change the decisions i made, nor can i undo the harm my behavior caused then and today. but i accept responsibility for my past actions, and i am ready to do the hard work of regaining your trust. i have spent the past year as your governor fighting for virginia that works better for all people. i am committed to continuing that fight through the remainder of my term and living up to the expectations you set for me when you elected me to serve. thank you. >> a lot more on the story and the reaction to it. let's talk about what we know about this picture. >> sure, well, it's really an extraordinary development here. what you have is four hours after this racist photo emerges, the governor faced with the ugly reality of what he did for all the public to see, confirming, apologizing, the whole bit here. this was something that took

place in 1984. he was 25 years old at the time. it was a graduation of medical school. he had statements following this talking about his alma mater as well as drinking and it was quite surprising, quite shocking when people saw this. this had not been discovered before and something that emerged in a political environment, if you will, first a reaction swift from republicans, but now we're also hearing reaction from many corners including those who are allies and good friends of the governor, both senators mark warner and tim cain this evening. neither one has gone as far as to say he should re-sign but the statements are almost coordinated in their language here because they both urge him, they say, to take time to listen to those that he has hurt and to

determine what the future should hold for himself. both of the senators not calling for his resignation. giving him a little bit more time to come up with his own conclusi conclusion. we do have a number of other reactions as well. the naacp responding saying black face in any manner is always racist. no matter the party affiliation we can't stand for this behavior. she was vocal earlier in the week over the abortion controversy now calling on the governor to step down. several of the democratic presidential primary candidates. kamala harris saying leaders are called to a higher standard and the stain of racism should have no place in the halls of government. he is by all accounts a decent

and considerate man. his poor judgment underminds his standard in a way that we think will effect his ability to be governor. the black legislative caucus, they too put out a statement saying that the caucus has no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, only permanent interests. they are saying we are still processing what we have seen but we feel complete betrayal. so a couple of things to watch this weekend as this unfolds. look to the virginia naacp press conference and see what they say and the state legislature that's going to hold another meeting on sunday to figure out what these next steps are and whether or not the governor is going to heed those calls, a growing chorus growing louder that he should step down.

>> you follow the governor's career for decades. he says that this photo is not in keeping with who he is now, with his character. what about his record and whether you think that should matter compared to this photo? >> well, you know, he's known for being a soft spoken mild mannered politician by standards of politicians that way. he -- when he came in initially in 2007 he was part of a small group of democrats that were sort of blue dog democrats and he was courted by the republicans to switch parties early in his legislative career. that didn't happen and when he was recruited to run for lieutenant governor, when he stepped on to the statewide stage his image started to

evolve. he talked about his war record and being a pediatrician. so his image moved from that of a moderate conservative democrat to more of a mainstream democrat who had this sort of soft spoken pediatrician image and that's what he ran on as governor. when he was running for governor this last year, there was a brush up on race, in the northern part of virginia, there was a flyer that was distributed that air brushed out his candidate justin fairfax and it became a mini controversy. >> he is african american? >> that's right. >> he called it a mistake and said he did it because the unions wanted him to do it

because he didn't support something they were interested in. there were some racial issues during the campaign. >> there's obviously a lot of calls for him to re-sign. do you expect him to step down or do you think he'll try to hang on as long as possible. >> right now he's obviously not saying he's going to re-sign. >> he said he isn't going to re-sign. he wants to serve out the remainder of his term. but we haven't heard from justin fairfax yet. it's important that the legislative black caucus didn't call for his resignation. they felt very betrayed we haven't heard from two african american members of congress on this. so i think some of the most important voices in this debate are going to be whether the legislative black caucus makes an affirmative statement about whether he should re-sign and justin fairfax. i'm curious to hear what he has

to say because in some ways he could be, you know, could save him in some ways from this scandal because that's the person who would succeed the governor and as was noted in the previous segment, he could run for re-election. he could run for a full term. so he has the most politically to gain here but he also, i think his statement could be an important one in helping him. >> interesting. i appreciate you being with us. thank you so much. joining us now is former obama white house communications director. usa today columnist and new york times columnist. charles, what do you think about this and should the governor re-sign? >> i'm going to leave it to the people of virginia to decide whether or not he should re-sign. i will say this, though, black people, proportionally are the biggest supporters of the

democratic party what does that devotion buy you? if this is what that devotion buys you and you do not call it out, then you will live with that for a long time. you cannot look at republicans and say, this kind of behavior is on this side and we will not stand for it and stand for it on the other. you have to make a choice. either it's wrong, it's wrong. i believe that it's wrong. there's a lot of different kinds of racism, right? there's aggressive racism that impacts your life and your livelihood and whether or not you actually continue to live in cases of some. there's another kind of racism that mocks your pain and your suffering. and that does not take your history in this country serious. that's what black face always is. it plays on it and pretends that

it's a joke. and i think just looking at this photo -- you have to remember this. you don't have an excuse for that. he chose to take that picture. either with whoever else -- i don't know who he is in the picture. but he chose to take it with the other person. chose to submit it to the yearbook. this is a public document. the people that went to school with him had access to that yearbook. everybody should have been offended when they saw the photo. imagine if you were a black person in that medical school and that's part of your yearbook that you keep with you the rest of your life. i want to know, did the governor ever, prior to being caught now try to make amends for what he had obviously done on purpose in public. and if now you're just saying i'm going to do the work, well, what happened in the last 30 years when you should have been doing that work. >> he knew. >> of course you knew. it's in the yearbook. you put it in the yearbook.

>> do you see a reason why democrats would urge him to stay in office? both senators put out statements criticizing him and stopped short of calling for his resignation and it's pretty clear if he was a republican governor they would have made a statement that he had to re-sign immediately. >> that's true. i also say democrats can't sit here and accuse republicans and others of being racist while allowing and standing by this behavior. there's no scenario where wearing black face or a klan uniform should be acceptable. he was a 25-year-old adult at the time so it's hard to digest. now on the pure politics of it, if you're a candidate running for president. we've seen a number of candidates call for him to re-sign. you don't want to be standing next to him when you're campaigning in a competitive

state. and this is a scenario where democrats have to decide who we are as a party and in terms of how we represent the country. this is is a state where he has fatally wounded his ability to do his job given a year and a half ago there's white supremacists marching through charlottesville. i can't see a scenario where democrats would call for him to stay in office. >> it's not an easy process to remove a governor from office in virginia. do you see it even getting to that point? do you think the governor will heed the calls to re-sign? >> look, you're walking into a presidential year and there's a ton of democrats taking the stage here and i think you hit it exactly right. that they're not going to want to stand with him. they're not going to be supporting him. they're going to continue to call for him to re-sign and he's

going to have to make the decision whether he re-signs or not. if it's that difficult to remove him in virginia then it becomes his political jeopardy and he has to make a decision for himself whether he can govern and lead that state with this in his past. with this issue in his past. and i think it becomes very, very difficult for him to get anything accomplished in virginia in terms of his agenda and getting political support from anyone in his own party let alone the other party. it's going to be very hard for him to sustain this and he probably shouldn't. >> you took issue with any comparison to the kavanaugh controversy about looking at kavanaugh's yearbooks. your point was, well, there was a different reason people were looking at the yearbooks based on how kavanaugh portrayed himself at that time. do you think -- should yearbooks in general be fair game? >> absolutely. i don't think the fact that this was in the yearbook makes it not

very well ra relevant. i have been happy to hear tonight a lot of conservatives very upset about racism and i'm very happy to see that. i want to encourage them to not just be upset about racism in a yearbook in 1984 but actually maybe look at the racism that's happening with the president of the united states that they're supporting so they don't just get to come out and condemn this racism and ignore that racism. and i would say the same thing about hypocracy. they're very concerned about democrats. they might want to look at themselves. maybe have a conversation we it evangelicals for starters. anything they do they should do with the facts in front of them. charles laid it out quite perfectly and my one question to charles would be, let's say that he changed radically since this

happened, since this happened a long time ago and he had sort of a moment where he became enlightened about race and he realized that he had done something terrible and he had done things to show that he was different, does that make a difference? or is this just something that you just -- you just shouldn't be able to recover from? to me that's really a question that i have? >> but here becomes the issue, right? i hate when people ask, particularly black people for absolution, expect absolution from black people without ever asking for it. without ever repenting for the action itself, they say because it happened a long time ago, because i've lived my life in a different sort of way you should just grant it even though i have never fessed up to it before i got caught. >> what i'm saying though is let's say he repented, he can point to repenting it. that he had actually changed, does it matter or is this just

something that you just say you can't recover from this? >> but the change is not the only thing is what i'm saying. the change is one piece of it. there's a thing that was done, have you tried to correct that in 30 years? and if you have not made any effort to correct that, to deal with the other people who received that yearbook along with you, some of whom may have been black people. it shouldn't matter if you're black or not. everybody should have been offended by that. if you have never dealt with that and said i'm wrong, i'm sorry and let me air this out, because i have changed and let me show you america, virginia, my neighborhood, my neighbors, this is what change looks like. i did a horrible thing but this is all i have done to deal with the horrible thing i did and also to be a better person. that is what change looks like. i believe that there should be a path for redemption from racism.

otherwise we are in a whole lot of trouble. but that path requires action on your part to affirmatively deal with what you have done. and if you have never done that, then don't ask me to grant you an absolution. >> yeah. >> i mean, that's how i feel. and i don't think that he's done that. i haven't seen it or if he has, he hasn't talked about it. >> let's hope that's the case but the question is whether he should be the governor of the state of virginia. as a human being, we should welcome compassion and welcome his change in view, we should welcome if he's going to try to make amends and go on that journey, but the question remains, should he be the governor, and i think the answer is no. >> i think kristen hit it on the head and charles did as well. we haven't seen him repenlt for this or show that he had repented for it throughout the years in anyway, shape, or form

and that's going to be a real problem for him, for him being able to stay in office to continue to do what he is doing as governor of virginia. support is going to continue to way wane. this is a time for conservatives to really take a look at racism and let's not just point out hypocracy, let's have a real discussion about racism. >> if that's the case, should cindy hyde smith re-sign? should donald trump? there's real active questions that aren't just about conservatives speaking out against racism. i applaud that too but there's specific examples where they could speak out that i haven't seen evidence of. >> but i think you just separate that issue. so black people are not voting for republicans 90 plus percent.

black people are voting for democrats, 97, 90 plus percent. there should be an expectation among that group of people that i have granted you so much devotion over so many decades that you owe me at the very least some sense of decency and some sense of responsibility. i know that republicans are not going to behave in ways that i like. they don't count me as among the people that they are courting. but they do count black people and he owes -- and democrats owe black people a debt. >> good discussion. appreciate it. a lot more on this ahead. the president saying he's already building the wall. he may declare a national emergency to build a wall. the one he says he's already building which by the way he's not. we're keeping him honest and trying to separate the facts

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replacing existing barriers. >> that's what they have been doing and all along, going back to mulvaney gave a press conference where he showed photos of what they called the new wall that was being built and it was just replacing existing fencing. >> that's my understanding. but the bottom line is the president needs to get off this kick of declaring an emergency declaration. that would trample congress's article one authority and where is he going to take this money from? you know, i wrote the military construction bill that's already law. i drafted that before i left congress. i mean, the military does not have the authority to build a barrier on the southern border but for 37 miles of the gold water rains in southern arizona. that's it. and the pentagon didn't ask for the money. i don't know how he's going to do this or is he going to take this money out of natural

disaster emergencies. taking it from people in texas and florida trying to reconstruct their lives or puerto rico. how can he think this is viable? what member of congress would allow such a thing to occur. >> do you think it could be a breaking point? some made the argument if you let a republican president do this calling it a national emergency, what is to stop a democratic president from saying climate change is a national emergen emergency. >> amen. your remedy must help the under lying emergency. you couldn't build it fast enough and by the way, that wouldn't necessarily address the issue of poor, you know,

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for someone that's just been indicted by the special counsel, roger stone has done a lot of talking to influence the court of public opinion. a judge indicated she might order him to stop but he went right back on tv a few hours later. the judge had some choice words for stone today. talk about what she said. >> yeah. she is very concerned by his behavior. and she wants to put this gag order in place because she wants to protect him. she told him this is a criminal proceeding and not a public relations campaign. and then she told him she wanted him to stop going on the talk show circuit. there's concern that the things he's saying can be used against him once he goes to trialel.

she wants to hear from his attorneys and prosecutors about it. but his antics could be coming to an end here. >> so no gag order implemented and when you said the judge is expected to make that decision -- >> in a week or so. >> obviously, roger stone, he has not stopped speaking. he was on fox news and he's arguing that he needs to continue to talk because he's trying to raise money and he's not going to be able to raise money for his defense. >> thank you very much. in an interview with the new york times, the president said he never spoke with stone about wikileaks and he was assured that he himself is not a target of the russia inquiry by

mueller. >> well, he told the attorneys that i'm not a target. >> about which? >> the investigation, because there's two. there's mueller and then there's cohen. >> i don't know about that. that i don't know about. >> we didn't discuss it. >> i want to bring in our cnn legal analyst. so it's certainly interesting, the difference between the president's answer on the mueller investigation and his answer on the southern district's investigation. very much so. and holding aside it's possible that he doesn't think about the southern district.

>> the issue about the subject and target. it's very unusual to have that conversation here and given the president's position, it's really hard to believe he will not be a subject. he submitted answers under oath in writing. he was right at the heart of the investigation. the only way he could reconcile that is to say that maybe because they, as a matter of policy know they won't charge him, maybe they aren't using language like that but it's a very unusual situation. >> is it possible the president wouldn't know if he were a subject or target of the southern district's investigation? >> it's possible he didn't know or he didn't ask although that would suggest that his attorneys are incompetent but we can't rule that out. i think it's inconceivable and i doubt that he was told that by

rosenstein. >> should a gag order be implemented, especially given stone that has never met a microphone he didn't like? and he's still out there now talking? >> well, the gag order is done for two purposes. one to eliminate jury pain and it's important to remember the judge doesn't want the united states prejudice either. she took the identical approach and she did tell stone that today. she also asked the sides to brief the issue where they felt there shouldn't be a gag order and we didn't say anything about it. it seems like from his behavior tonight, he is already in violation of what she told him to do. so he is really setting up a good fight with her about this. >> is a valid explanation from

stone saying i need to raise money and i need to be out there to do that? >> i understand. frankly i have clients that at times are struggling in that situation to pay for legal bills and i have been on the other side of that when i was a prosecutor. i understand that. he's hired lawyers that don't appear to have any federal, criminal experience. he would be better off using the federal public defender and saving his money and keeping his mouth shut? >> do you really think? >> absolutely. >> his lawyers have no experience in what they're doing? >> i looked at their biographies on their web page. they seem to be crisis management lawyers as much as i can tell. >> you think it would be self-explself-e self-explanatory that he shouldn't reach out to potential witnesses. >> the manafort situation was a little bit more subtle than what

stone has already engaged in. he was trying to ghost write editorials and suggest to people the way he remembered things. in contrast, stone has been indicted for witness tampering and if you look at the record of what he was doing with credico, it's blatant material. the judge would be concerned about that. that he will get. he'll stay far away from anything like that. but i think he wants to speak out and continue to signal to the president that he's the poster boy for him and he should be pardoned. >> i get that they're talking about the trial starting in late summer or early fall. it doesn't make it seem like the mueller investigation is wrapping up any time soon or can we not read into it in that way? >> there's no indication that it's going to wrap up soon other than the businestatement by whi.

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and obviously a growing field of democratic contenders that have already announced or are expected to soon. it's not counting the many, many more that were considering it. joining me is the former vermont governor. i'm wondering of what you make of senator booker's entry into the race today and, in general, how much do you think the political climate has changed since you ran. >> it's changed a lot. this is very different year. it's very interesting to me -- i wouldn't say the democratic party has moved to the left but i would say they have adopted a fair number of the amount of the platform of bernie sanders from

2016. and so, it's very interesting and most people want health care for everybody and so forth and so on. so it's a big change. >> do you think the bigger the democratic field early on the better? >> i don't know about the bigger the better? but it's going to be bigger whether we like it or not. so here we are. heres the new thing. new faces are really attractive and the party, so far the candidates running look like the base of the democratic party. our base is young people that vote overwhelming democratic. women that vote overwhelmingly democratic, including white women which wasn't the case in 2016 and people of color. all of those groups have to show up. if they do, we win. if they don't, we won't. simple as that. >> do you think the candidates at this stage or does anyone at this stage know how to run against donald trump? >> people have some ideas.

>> we have to have somebody that can be measured and behave like most americans expect somebody to behave and somebody that's not going to engage in the gutter tactics of trump. he or she has to be strong enough to stand up to trump without making him the issue. trump will make himself the issue. we don't have to worry about that. what we need is a positive platform and someone that's strong enough to do what obama did. just do that to trump. >> do you want to see your home state senator, senator bernie sanders make a run? there does seem to be a question of whether democrats want a candidate on the far left like sanders or someone more toward the center. >> let's not forget that sanders influenced the debate remarkably. i don't think we have every candidate declared so far to be in favor of medicare for all if it hadn't been for sanders. my own view is that we need

somebody young. i'd like somebody that's 50. the voters get to choose and i have good confidence in the voters that they're going to choose the best candidate. i think they will over a 35 or 40 state battle. >> by the way, as someone that's 51, i appreciate you saying that 50 is young. it makes me feel a little bit better in the midst of my midlife crisis. what does that say about a joe biden then? >> well, you know, everybody has a right to run. they're going to run. the voters are going to decide for themselves. i think we're better off with candidates and a ticket that looks like our base, and our base, as i said before, are young people, people of color and women. >> just lastly, i'm sure you know about the controversy swirling around the virginia governor and the black face and kkk photos in his medical school yearbook, do you think he should re-si re-sign? >> i think charles blow said everything exactly right. we have to know more about

exactly what happened. he has to be forgiven and he has to ask for forgiveness and show he gets it. this is going to be a very uphill climb for him without re-signing but the black community is going to make the decision about whether he does or not. there's still a lot we don't know about exactly what went on, but it's very shocking. 1984 was not 1964. >> and a 25-year-old as opposed to a high school student. >> i know. >> governor dean, it's always a pleasure to talk to you, thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. nuclear show down between the white house and russia with the cold war peace treaty falling apart. ahead, president trump's message to the kremlin and i'll talk to madeline albright. is number one in the nation? sure, they probably know what they're talking about. or the one that j.d. power says is highest in network quality by people who use it every day? this is a tough one. well, not really, because verizon won both. so you don't even have to choose. why didn't you just lead with that? it's like a fun thing. (vo) chosen by experts. chosen by you.

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but you have to have everybody adhere to it. and you have a certain side that almost pretends it doesn't exist. >> while europe is backing the white house, it's also desperate to save the deal signed in 1987. russia denies it's violating the pact. her best selling book, "fascism, a warning" is now out in paperback. how concerned are you about the decision to pull out of this treaty? >> i am concerned about it. it's an important treaty. but also there have been questions about whether the russians have been violating it for some time. so this is not something new. but i do think that what would be better is to try to figure out how to renegotiate certain parts of it and hold the russians accountable. and there's some thought that it would be good to get the chinese involved because they also have this type of weapon.

and i do think we do know that arms control agreements have kept the peace for a long time. there is sometimes cheating on them. they have to be called on that. and i do think that it's important not to just keep pulling out of things. i think that is not the best way for america to behave, you know, to pull out of the paris agreement and the agreement with the iranians and tpp and just kind of decide that whenever it occurs to us, we're going to pull out without figuring out what to do to improve the situation. >> even though -- you agree the russians may not be following this and may be violating this for a long time, but you say stay in it and try to renegotiate the terms of had existing agreement? >> i think hold them to it more and renegotiate certain parts, but this has been going on. and i think that they have been called on it. i don't think that just pulling out of it is the best idea because it kinds of leaves us --

what president trump said, kind of starting over and all that, especially when we now have a reputation of not living up to agreements that we have made. and so i think it's a good idea to acknowledge that there have been violations by the russians and try to figure out how to sit down at the table and work out various parts. and think about bringing the chinese and maybe some others into it. >> as someone who's been on the international stage for a long time and at the level you were at, how odd is it that the president of united states has repeatedly met solo with vladimir putin with only an interpreter and then asking for the interpreter's notes? >> i think that that has not been seen before because the truth is that these meetings are important. personal relationships are important. and heads of state sometimes meet by themselves but then actually come out and explain what has happened. and there is an attempt to try to figure out what decisions

were made. it's important to have somebody else in the meeting. it's important to have the notes because in fact theoretically they have decide said on something that the rest of the government has to carry out. so what are the do outs from this? and a number of these meetings that have taken place i think are very troubling. >> also the president's criticism and very public criticism of his own intelligence community this week, saying they didn't know what they were talking about in public congressional testimony about global threats, then the next day saying that they'd told him they'd been misquoted and taken out of context, even though there had been publicly made comments. is there any sensible explanation for the president to be publicly demeaning his intelligence officials? >> i think it's really shocking because i can understand from his perspective that it might have been critical of the people that were in office before. but these are all people that he appointed. and for him to really embarrass them this way and then actually

say that they were misquoted or that the press put the wrong context on it when we all saw it on television. and so i am beginning to think he must think we are are all so stupid that we can't see what's going on. and i think it is embarrassing for everybody involved in it. and i don't know -- the intelligence community is essential to making policy. they may not always agree. there may be nuances in what they say, but this was very clear. and so i'm surprised at the way this has been portrayed by the president. >> secretary, great to talk with you. thanks so much. we'll be right back.

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